renae   
Oct 25, 2006
|  Note to self "Read the category before doing complex calculations" 
I confess to being tricked. Good one. |
boodler 
Oct 25, 2006
| I did a quick calculation, but when I read the last line, I thought "What category is this?"  |
calmsavior
Oct 25, 2006
| finally, a decent trick teaser! thankyou.  |
Lizzie713
Oct 26, 2006
| good one
I did all the complex calculations then when i had the answer i re read the Question again and though SILLY!!! Must always read Question before doing calculations LOL
Thanks for the Puzzle |
MalcolmReynolds
Oct 26, 2006
| I like it, lol. |
aranara89
Oct 26, 2006
| I think too much I kept trying to add up all of the people  |
tintiniscool
Oct 26, 2006
| Yes! I got it! |
skittle499
Oct 26, 2006
| Like it!I was about to add up all the people then I was like Duh! nd I got the answer!  |
Quickq 
Oct 28, 2006
| I was about to open up the calculator on my computer then realised. |
TheSmartest
Oct 29, 2006
| I got it first try. Very good teaser. I enjoyed it a lot. |
unklemyke
Oct 29, 2006
| Kits, cats, sacks and wives,
How many were going to St. Ives? This one has whiskers! |
extra3641
Oct 30, 2006
| i got it right!!!
at first i was like "well... 5 then 4 each" then i'm like "WAIT" and then got it. yey!!!  |
prettyinpinkxo9
Oct 30, 2006
| I dont get it! could someone maybe explain? but it must of been a good teaser if everybody else got it! |
prettyinpinkxo9
Oct 30, 2006
| oh! now I get it! bon only invited 5 people! his friends invited the rest! |
CountdownCrispy
Nov 01, 2006
| Good trick - I got it though. |
dafosurenizzle
Nov 02, 2006
| Wow I feel so stupid. |
Pizzazz2u
Nov 07, 2006
| Just remember the category! Way to go! I thoroughly enjoyed it! A teaser which fits the category it was made for! Keep them coming! |
TANGLED_TT
Nov 08, 2006
| thats a good one at first i was adding all the people up when the answer was right there in front of me |
HyunYung
Nov 10, 2006
| nice
i did all the calculations in my head, didn't take to long
then when i saw the answer, i was just like huh?
and then i reread it and got it |
bonnieshad
Nov 18, 2006
| i was tricked..... but then again im always tricked so it's all good |
maggie9
Nov 22, 2006
| nice |
Battery
Nov 23, 2006
| thanks everyone for all your comments |
yongrenjie 
Nov 24, 2006
| Great teaser! I got it on my first try. Thought of the category and the answer just came into my mind. |
FatHead
Nov 26, 2006
| I almost got tricked, but, like Boodler, I read the category first. |
lmurray 
Nov 26, 2006
| DANGRAN! (OF COURSE) AS THE TEASER SAID, "BOB" INVITED FIVE PEOPLE TO HIS PARTY. DUH!! |
starsky13
Nov 26, 2006
| Great Attempt to Trick someone into calculations; question was simple; answer was obvious; but I did start to calculate and then re-read and got it right away. lmurray, why are you such a kill-joy? Is that your lot in life????????
WHAT DID YOU SAY? i thought so! this is fun for us all! Happiness comes from within; I choose to be happy and bring happiness and encouragement to others. |
OldChinaHand
Nov 26, 2006
| I know one who would not get invited...
A good but a bit sneaky, just as a teaser should be.  |
coachpisco
Nov 26, 2006
| You got me! Good new one based on an old teaser. |
Anarocka
Nov 26, 2006
| Very good. I did the calcalateions and got 96.I didn't get it.  |
puttumup
Nov 26, 2006
| that was a good one keep it up ...... |
Synlapse
Nov 26, 2006
| Okay, I too did the calculations without reading the category first. I came up with 45 people coming to Bob's party. Someone else came up with 96. So, how many besides Bob were at the party?  |
reptile5000
Nov 26, 2006
| 2 letters-
E
Z |
breathesunshine
Nov 26, 2006
| Of course it was easy, the hard part was to read carefully and not get tricked! |
-loveable-
Nov 26, 2006
| It was great though u should have not put the word "overall" that word means everyone so yea but it was a really really good one I liked it!!! |
katie4
Nov 26, 2006
| who likes wresling? i do DX is the best!!! |
auntiesis
Nov 26, 2006
| You tricked me, and I thought I was so clever...NOT! Color me red. |
varie4ever
Nov 26, 2006
| i need to stop thinking |
Misterfish
Nov 26, 2006
| Technically, Bob did set the maximum number of invited guests to his party. The trick is a failure by using the word "Overall", because overall Bob did give invitation instructions for a total group:
5+(5x3)=20 sub total first group
20+((20-5)x2)= 80 sub total for next group
80+((80-20)x1)=140 total guests
Perhaps if the question were phrased as; How many friends did Bob directly invite? |
tchershelly
Nov 26, 2006
| i calculated , was very proud of myself for coming up with an answer , then i clicked the answer button . Loved this one, I'm kinda new at this, so now i know I'm supposed to check the catagory. very good one |
bookworm000
Nov 26, 2006
| great teaser!!!!!!! I loved it!!! |
I_Write_Books
Nov 26, 2006
| I even realized that it was a trick teaser and still fell for it!  I think I need to have someone check to see if my mind is malfunctioning! Anyway, Great Teaser! |
phyllisa
Nov 26, 2006
| Great teaser, I got it right! and right away |
LaMoV
Nov 26, 2006
| okay misterfish.
a) TECHNICALLY bob only did invite 5 people. it was his friends and their friends ect. that invited the rest.
b) if your going to be all technical with your calculations, how about at least being correct, yeah? because if the trick HAD been the calculations you would have fallen for it. you dont multiply the last group by one because they all invited ONE MORE PERSON. so if you did. you would be left with the same number as you had. duh.
c) if the question were re-phrased as "how many friends did bob DIRECTLY invite?" it wouldnt be a TRICK. would it? |
bradon182001
Nov 26, 2006
| Okay. You got me too. This was a really fun, tricky teaser. I liked it.I did all the calculations and read the answer confident I got it correct. You got me!! |
briciasmom
Nov 26, 2006
| That was a good one, I figured out without doing all the calculations. |
tpkarth
Nov 26, 2006
| I am glad I didn't fall for the trick... even those who did, u got some exercise on the other side of the brain, didn't ya? for those who did take the pains to calculate the total number of invited people "overall", what do we agree to be the total overall?
5+ (5*4) + (5*4*3) + (5*4*3*2) + (5*4*3*2*1) = 325
any takers? |
wordmama
Nov 26, 2006
| "Overall" I got 120; is there an mathematics professor out there who could give us the real scoop?
Dropping that one initial word would have been a fairer way to ask the question and still qualify as 'trick'.
Now as I continue my trip to St. Ives....
Excuse me: A or any ... professor |
smartsy
Nov 26, 2006
| tht was good at first i was gonna calculate all the numbers then it said category "trick" and i still didnt get but now i understand awsesome riddle! |
POPS
Nov 26, 2006
| What can I say,Ya got me GOOD TRICKY |
if_i_may94
Nov 26, 2006
| omg;..i got 48 gests....NO IDEA WHAT I DID it shudve been directly invited...coz otherwise...some can figure out the answer and actually get it right....
if_i_may |
bradon182001
Nov 26, 2006
| The original 5 could each invite 4, so 5 times 4 = 20 +the original 5 =25, those 25 could invite 3 each, 75 + the 25=100. Those 100 could each invite 2 so 200 + the 100 =300. each of the 300 could invite 1, so 300 + 300 = 600. Yes? No? Anyways, that's the answer I got. |
ragdol13
Nov 26, 2006
| lmfao.. i was about to start figuring it out and then i rembered that it was trick.. then i got the answer
that was a good one |
yoyoyo
Nov 26, 2006
| I go the answer right away, but being the person I am I decided to see how many people came (besides bob). first there's the 5 friend each invited 4 (25), but then only 20 could invite more friends. so it came out to (325)
5+ (5*4) + (5*4*3) + (5*4*3*2) + (5*4*3*2*1) = 325 (which is what -tpkarth- got and seems to be correct |
suganue
Nov 26, 2006
| You got me |
victort21
Nov 26, 2006
| OK, so I did the math, then reread the question and came up with the right answer.
But the math I did, gave me the same answer as Brandon182001, which is 600, using the same method as he did. |
Misterfish
Nov 26, 2006
| LaMoV:
Technically I did miss part of the question (I was still fairly incoherent) the first time through which was the 5 inviting 4, however, if you understand the way brackets work, what I have shown is correct. BTW: I see you conveniently ignored the word "overall". Bob, being a host, offered the total number of invitations.
5+(5x4)=25 sub total first group of the close friends inviting 4 people each.
25+((25-5)x3)= 85 sub total for next group minus the ineligible first group
85+((85-25)x2)=205 sub total for next group minus the ineligible first and second group
205+((205-85)x1)=325 total guests
Main Entry: 1over•all
Pronunciation: "O-v&r-'ol
Function: adverb
1 : ALL OVER 1
2 : from one end to the other
3 a : in view of all the circumstances or conditions b : as a whole : GENERALLY c : with everyone or everything taken into account |
(user deleted)
Nov 26, 2006
| brandon and victor, when you multiply the second group by 3, you have to exclude the first 5, because they each already invited 4 and can not invite any more, so you would multiply 3 by 20, not by 25. so the answer would be 325.
also i agree that by saying overall it includes all the people invited, not just the 5 |
(user deleted)
Nov 26, 2006
| actually i just thought of something. the answer, instead of being 325, would be impossible to calculate, because just because someone could invite 3 or 4 more people, doesn't mean they will. some people may not invite anyone, so it is impossible to know how many people total were invited with the information given.
but, assuming each person invites the maximum number of people they can invite, then the correct answer would be 325. |
nomorehumans
Nov 26, 2006
| at first, i thought it was silly to post comments about these teasers. but now i see that its fun. its kinda like a little community. im definately warming up to it. i liked this one a lot. instead of equations, i did a diagram. funny stuff. |
patpat553
Nov 26, 2006
| OKAY,OKAY,YOU GOT ME. VERY,VERY GOOD! OH,BY THE BY,I THINK IMURRAY WRITES COMMENTS LIKE HE DOES JUST FOR THE ATTENTION HE GETS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT POINT OUT HOW MEAN HE IS. SOME PEOPLE FEED ON THIS. IF EVERYONE JUST IGNORES HIM,IT MIGHT GET BETTER. JUST A THOUGHT! |
blonde_genius
Nov 27, 2006
| This was a great teaser. I was on the step that lead me to the answer I originally got, 325, when i went omg!!! this is a trick isnt it?!?!
I thought it was great |
qwertyopiusa
Nov 27, 2006
| Cool! Several people got "the maximum number of guests at the party"=325, but what about the general expression? What if the host invited 7 that can invite 6 that can invite 5...? What if he doesn't want more than 3 degrees of separation to him (a friend of a friend of a friend)?
If n is the initial number of friends (1 degree of separation, n=5 in the original riddle), and d is the maximum degree of separation (d=5), then the people at the party is
Sum[n!/i!,{i,n-d,n-1}]
How will be the general expression if d is the maximum degree of separation between ANY person at the party?? :-) |
tonjawithaj
Nov 27, 2006
| I guess I should have read the category! |
jacstop
Nov 27, 2006
| Well, someone summoned a professor so I had to answer.
First and foremost, I was at the party and it was "off the heezy!!"
Secondly, this teaser was cool. Of course I got it off the bat because of the category. Rule#1: knowing the category is 75% of the work
Thirdly, there are some people with some serious math issues, to name a few – synlapse and Victor! Misterfish – though you got it right later your initial answer troubled me. qwertyopiusa – you suffer from too much free time, your math is actually accurate but your thought process is well...
However, the closest answer was provided by D-Love – after a moment of introspection he pontificated that the answer cannot be accurately provided with this amount of information. Surely we must make room for real life answers and real life situations, however that is what ln(e) is for – natural log with base e provides insight into real life numbers that we encounter in everyday life or in mathematical terms - expressions in which the unknown variable appears as the exponent of e occur much more often than exponents of 10 (common log) or in this case 5 (number of invites)
E has been defined as 2.718281828459... so by using this number as our base we could come closer to a more accurate number but we must remember there are no exacts in mathematics as with all sciences (for those confused because math and science were taught in two different rooms in your elementary school, math is a type of science as science is a broad field that involves computational, quantitative, and qualitative analysis...
That being the case we can fairly assume that of the potential 325 invitees, 130.4...were actually invited.
Which is crazy because I was at the party and it was packed to the brim. I had honeys to my left and honeys to my right.
Rule #2 Always invite me to your party b/c Ladies love the professor...
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shawneeo
Nov 27, 2006
| oH man! My whole comment disappeared! Well, Ima say it shorter: Just because it says: "overall" does not change the fact that the teaser states that Bob invited five blah blah. You could say "how many were invited overall", and that would mean the total of all invitees, but bob only invited five people overall or underall.
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schatzy228
Nov 28, 2006
| overall bob invited 5 people in their underalls? |
kristirene
Nov 29, 2006
| I thought it was well thought out and if you didnt understand it, you wont get it. |
kristirene
Nov 29, 2006
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ky123212
Nov 30, 2006
| I GOT it. I thought it was all the adding until I read the category and then I realized he only DIRECTLY invited 5. |
mmmcla01
Nov 30, 2006
| Good thing this site has categories cuz that was the biggest hint!! Never would have gotten it without realizing it was in the trick category!! |
vlerma
Nov 30, 2006
| My oh my so much to do over one little word "Overall". Trick was the word of the hour! And it was a good trick. More please. |
pretty-in-pink
Dec 02, 2006
| omg i worked at this for like 10 minutes and did sooo much work!!! i got an answer of 300 and i was sure of it...BUT THEN I LOOKED ATT THE ANSWER!!! anywayz good TRICK teaser!! |
pretty-in-pink
Dec 02, 2006
| omg i worked at this for like 10 minutes and did sooo much work!!! i got an answer of 300 and i was sure of it...BUT THEN I LOOKED ATT THE ANSWER!!! anywayz good TRICK teaser!! |
HScott13
Dec 12, 2006
| A good trick. I'm glad that so many have calculated the answer (to the question that wasn't asked) as 325. I originally came up with 325, but having seen someone else come up with 140 I didn't have the confidence to contradict them. I was sure they were wrong, but it would have been a bit embarrassing to say so and give an equally wrong answer. |
Qrystal
Dec 12, 2006
| Wonderful! This is a textbook example of what a "Trick" teaser should be! AND -- the best part -- I wasn't tricked!! Not for a second!!!!
jacstop, oh my my my. Such lovely mathematical ribbons wrapped around the best present of all -- humour!! Thanks so much for that!!! I think ln(e) was the dead giveaway of your BS though ....though truly, that's not "1" that many will understand! |
Monkeywithumbs
Dec 14, 2006
| 20*3=60
60+orig.20=80
80*2=160
160+80=240
240+240=480
If everyone Bob had directly invited invited as many people as they were allowed, there would be 480 people at Bob's rather large party. |
Monkeywithumbs
Dec 14, 2006
| Oops! Forgot the original 5!
485 if they all came |
senther7
Dec 19, 2006
| omg, nice one, you tricked me with the saying. probaly one of the best tricks here!
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bluefever101
Dec 25, 2006
| i got that one. BOB invited five, but HIS FRIENDS invited more. |
3kidsplaying
Jan 01, 2007
| ugh i am so stupid i sat there and added up everything to figure it out!!! |
coldfire
Jan 08, 2007
| I got it! I got it! *jumps* |
luv2sing101
Feb 02, 2007
| i accually got this one!!! yay!!!!! go me!!!!!!!!!!! |
ViaTunisi
Feb 10, 2007
| I'm so glad I looked at the category before trying to solve the puzzle. |
sftball_rocks13
Feb 16, 2007
| Nice teaser, I got it as soon as I read the category
Just a question...why is everyone arguing about the math of the problem when none was even involved??? The editors wouldn't have let it through if they didn't think it made sense, and there's no point in arguing about the math in this problem that doesn't exist. |
(user deleted)
Feb 23, 2007
| Apparently I just woke up and didn't pay enough attention in class. LOL. Very funny. |
coltonr1
Feb 26, 2007
| Yeah, A nice teaser and yes I got it. |
xmadnetx
Feb 27, 2007
| lol....eeeaaaassssyyy =} |
LeafFan4life
Mar 05, 2007
| excellent |
didida
Mar 18, 2007
| Loved it! Really I think that you need to look at that category though! If you think it's going to be a trick then you realize whats going on! |
Kellington
Mar 23, 2007
| You should have asked what color his eyes were.... |
HarryPutter
May 04, 2007
| nice one you got me |
Hummingbird1
May 15, 2007
| Darn, Darn, Darn it all to hec! My brain hurts and now I feel really really stupid. I hate math problems. I wish I'd had enough sense to know this wasn't one.
GREAT TRICK! |
kronichoney_420
May 16, 2007
| lol i did all the math out and just before i clicked the answer button i realized that he only invited 5 people himself |
soccerguy0428
Jun 06, 2007
| I added them all up and got 325, and I thought that I figured it out but I guess I was wrong. Good one! |
hinderislife
Jun 25, 2007
| I liked this one. It definetly tricked me Very nice job |
Pojuer
Jul 03, 2007
| I thought 5 factorial was the answer!!! |
happyhak
Jul 22, 2007
| I worked all of that out then at the end when i worked it all out i thought: "Isnt it just 5?"
So I clicked on the answer and I felt silly! I got it b4 i clicked on the answer thoguh! |
Starriddler
Oct 03, 2007
|
Awesome! |
kwelchans
Oct 04, 2007
| Okay, here's what I think. Bob invited 5 people to the party. Each of those 5 invited 4, so 5x4=20. Each of those 20 invited 3, so 20x3=60. Each of those 60 invited 2, so 60x2=120. Each of those 120 invited 1, so 120x1=120. So the total would be 5+20+60+120+120=325. So the number of people INVITED to the party (assuming no duplicates) is 325. The number of people AT the party (assuming everyone came) is 326. The number BOB invited is 5. |
tricky77puzzle
Oct 18, 2007
| You mean hos many did bob DIRECTLY invite. He indirectly (using his friends as proxies) invited everyone else. |
thisisme91
Apr 04, 2008
| *giggle* I got at first try. Remember people, we're in Trick here. |
KilikAli12
Aug 18, 2008
| Wow. I must admit, I got tricked pretty good. Better read the category correctly next time..
Oh, yeah, to the people doing the calculations for the overall party count, you are TOTALLY wrong!!!!
This is correct:
Bob invites 5 to his party. With Bob himself, this includes 6 guests. Now, if each of his 5 friends invite 4 each, that equals 20 additional guests, equaling 26 if added to 6. Then, from 26, his 4 friend's friends invite 3 each, equaling 12 MORE people. 12 + 26 = 38. THEN, his three friend's friend's friends invite two more each, totaling 6, which, added to 38, equals 44. Finally, his two friend's friend's friend's friends invite one EACH, equaling two more. 44 + 2 = 46.
In all, 46 attend the party.
To the guys who calculated before, you were wrong because you factored in Bob's friends every time during the multiplication. If that was true, Bob's friends must clone a lot, eh? |
markmonnin
Sep 08, 2008
| This was easy, but I was reading the comment before me and have some problems with it:
Bob invites 5 to his party. With Bob himself, this includes 6 guests. Now, if each of his 5 friends invite 4 each, that equals 20 additional guests, equaling 26 if added to 6.
--Correction Below--
These 20 additional friends invite 3 each, equaling 60 MORE people. 60 + 26 = 86. THEN, his 60 friend's friend's friends invite two more each, totaling 120, which, added to 86, equals 206. Finally, his 120 friend's friend's friend's friends invite one EACH, equaling 120 more. 206 + 120 = 326.
In all, 326 attend the party (no clones involved). |
kingofda808
Nov 08, 2008
| yeah i waz bout 2 ad up everything den i waz lyk w8 no can... |
Wittykittymi
Oct 20, 2009
| Could you guys please stop showing off by trying to calculate the answer. It was a trick okay? remember... TRICK. lol. |
Wittykittymi
Oct 20, 2009
| Could you guys please stop showing off by trying to calculate the answer. It was a trick okay? remember... TRICK. lol. |
Stack1607
Nov 26, 2009
| I didn't check the category before answering . But here's how I calculated it:
5+5*4+5*4*3+5*4*3*2+5*4*3*2*1 = 5+20+60+120+120 = 325.
That is: he invited 5 people and those invited 5*4 and those invited (5*4)*3 [their number * the number of guests each invited] ...etc. |
jimbooth019
Nov 26, 2009
| Oh that was just plain mean!
Before my morning coffee too!
Here I am calculating this in my feeble mind I get it all figured it out, breezed to the answer and...... |
Mitty44
Nov 26, 2009
| That was HARD. I thought 40. Because, Bob invited 5 friends. And they invited 4 freinds which makes it 20 because 5 X 4 = 20. And so on. You should makes MORE of these tricky teasers! |
doehead
Nov 26, 2009
| I've seen too many of these ,so it was easy for me. Happy Thanksgiving to all. |
westbrook
Nov 26, 2009
| The trick category thing gave it away |
UptheHill
Nov 26, 2009
| NICE 1!!! HAPPY THANKSGIVING! |
Jeppydog
Nov 26, 2009
| It's not a good trick because if you invite people and tell them they could invite a certain number of people, you ARE inviting them all as well. |
animallover2000
Nov 26, 2009
| Good one, but pretty tricky.. |
hubbamutt777
Nov 26, 2009
| AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! so easy, it was SUPER HARD!  great teaser, though. i ended up adding and multipying and got 240! i am so dumb. heheheheheheheheeeee! |
fame
Dec 03, 2009
| lol. it took me a few seconds and i thought it was five ofcourse |
mathisnice
Feb 19, 2010
| Got it! |
sashomarine
Mar 26, 2010
| Kehheh, easy, took a few seconds though. Good teaser! |
racoonieboy
Jul 22, 2010
| Maybe people don't get it: Bob isn't a guest. He's the host!
005 = 1st generation (1*5)
020 = 2nd generation (5*4)
060 = 3rd generation (20*3)
120 = 4th generation (60*2)
120 = 5th generation (120*1)
325
Total, 325 guests attended the party.
But Bob did only invite 5 people. I'm not going against that. |
Babe
Nov 26, 2012
| You did not trick me. I read the question correctly and seen that it was going to be a tricky answer. so yes, I said 5. Yeah me! |
kmrutledge
Nov 26, 2012
| Easy as pie. But it is still a good trick teaser. |
HABS2933
Nov 26, 2012
| As with some others, I started to calculate then thought I should check the category. Got it right away after I realized it was a trick. |
cutebug
Nov 26, 2012
| Just reading the teaser made this very very ez. |
gaylewolf
Nov 26, 2012
| I love these and having done many like this one, I got it right away. Thanks for a good one! ;) |
gaylewolf
Nov 26, 2012
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thecatladycac
Nov 26, 2012
| I did the calculations as I read through the teaser (the number of people invited was 325 - racoonieboy demonstrates it well) - then I read the actual teaser question and slapped myself on the forehead! - but I got it right! - Actually, as I was reading through it, I kept expecting the teaser to ask "how many people attended?" which would be impossible to know!
Nice teaser!! |
iggy39
Nov 26, 2012
| good one. pays to check out the category doesn't it? |
