Death Cured?
Trivia brain teasers have some element of trivia in them, but they are not just pure trivia questions.
My great-grandmother was exceptional from first to last. She was the first baby born in the state in 1851. She was almost the first centenarian in the family, but she died in 1950, one day before her 100th birthday.
The cause of her death was not unusual; thousands of people died of the same cause that year and also in previous years. Her death was exceptional because she was the last person ever to die from that cause in the United States.
What was the cause of death?
HintHer age isn't important, but the date is. If she had lived just one more day, she wouldn't have died from that cause. No major disease was cured in 1951, but it would have been illegal to die from that cause.
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Answer
Old age.
No American has died of old age since 1951. Old age was "cured" at a Public Health Conference on Records and Statistics. All state and federal agencies were ordered to adopt a standard list of 130 contributing and underlying causes of death. In 1951, the list deleted "old age" as a cause of death.
There is still some debate over whether old age is an appropriate cause of death. If someone dies peacefully in their sleep at age 95, one or several organs may have shut down, but isn't the underlying cause old age?
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kayleeskitties   
Oct 31, 2006
| Working around the elderly daily, I find this 'cure' simply comical. Thanks for teaching me something new. I have something to tell my pts now  |
zigthepig   
Oct 31, 2006
| Interesting... |
Chakoteya   
Oct 31, 2006
| Crazy bureaucracy....  |
Pizzazz2u   
Oct 31, 2006
| A very wisely-stated teaser, yet people around the nation may not know your fact. The year set it off for me! Keep up the common sense trivia teasers. I enjoyed it, immensely.  |
MalcolmReynolds   
Oct 31, 2006
| Hint made no sense... if she'd died at 2, she wouldn't have died from old age.. |
shdwhawk   
Oct 31, 2006
| If you're dead, you're dead. They can't arrest you for dying of old age. Americans... really... |
scallio   
Nov 01, 2006
| I have always thought this was silly. I believe people do die from old age. Our society has become one which would like to have someone or something to blame for everything, including death. One cannot simply fall down and call it an accident. Someone or something must be blamed for causing it.
Fun trivia.  |
CountdownCrispy   
Nov 01, 2006
| That's a really interesting fact - great stuff!  |
(user deleted)
Nov 03, 2006
| i want too see that one on a episode on CSI:STOOPID  |
sammybaby55  
Nov 04, 2006
| wowwwers. That was pretty kewl. I had like to try to figure out what cause it lol for the answer
thank I learned somethin new  |
joefish 
Nov 04, 2006
| I know the Question was "what did she die from?", but I was wondering what state she was born in. you say she was the first to be born in the state in 1851. I google "statehood dates" and Californa entered statehood Sept. 9, 1850. so Cali. seem like a good anwser. |
SPUTNIK2   
Nov 06, 2006
| I thought this teaser was interesting and good  |
stil   
Nov 13, 2006
| Which states were inclined to track first birth of year in 1851? My great, great-grandparents were lucky to have baptismal records. |
lifeisgood812   
Nov 13, 2006
| That's a nice piece of trivia!
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NicoletheElf 
Nov 14, 2006
| That was very intersesting. I didn't know that they cured old age! |
fedex337   
Nov 15, 2006
| great teaser! but i think it should go under trivia... |
fedex337   
Nov 15, 2006
| great teaser! but i think it should go under trivia... |
peeve30 
Dec 21, 2006
| I liked it! Thanks for a good teaser! |
hoyty  
Dec 21, 2006
| I agree, trivia may have been a better category.
I was also wondering what state could have possibly tracked the first birth in that year. |
hoyty  
Dec 21, 2006
| oops....i guess it was under trivia, my mistake.  |
maddiesmom10140
Dec 21, 2006
| No, i don't think the cause of death would be old age. Eventually we will all die. If we make it to old age, something will still kill us. In this case, sounds like multisystem failure. As a result of old age??? Probably. But the cause of death, in my opinion, would be multisystem failure. But hey, I'm no doctor. |
Smudge  
Dec 21, 2006
| What you state in the answer about the underlying cause being "old age". It's the same as saying that the Jews murdered in the holocaust were killed by their faith, because the underlying reason their died was because they were Jewish, but it's not the "cause" of death. The cause was whatever method was used for the genocide.
In the same way...yes, old age was related to the death, but this particular lady would've died as a result of a stopped heart, or something else.
She was born on January 1st 1851...what a horrible birthdate. |
coachpisco 
Dec 21, 2006
| Interesting factoid. Thanks.  |
puttumup  
Dec 21, 2006
| hmmm.i dont think that was a teaser.it was more of a fun fackt..you get an a for effort  |
gaylewolf   
Dec 21, 2006
| Interesting fact - and I hope *I* die of old age, too - a LONG TIME FROM NOW!  |
bradon182001   
Dec 21, 2006
| Interesting bit of information, but I have to agree with the folks who say this should be in the trivia catagory. You either knew it or you didn't.  |
MarcM1098   
Dec 21, 2006
| It IS in the TRIVIA category, that's where I put it when I wrote it, and that's where it is now!  |
feste 
Dec 21, 2006
| The "old age" metaphor seems to have been displaced by "natural causes." |
tpkarth 
Dec 21, 2006
| Interesting fact... |
kman613  
Dec 21, 2006
| I never would have gotten this one w/o looking at the answer - so although hard (perhaps too much so), it was extremely interesting and fun... |
lmurray   
Dec 21, 2006
| XIEXIE NI! THANKS!
WHAT WAS HER BIRTH STATE?
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locutus13ds  
Dec 21, 2006
| Sorry for your loss..  |
craniac    
Dec 21, 2006
| It all depends on what you mean by "cause." There are primary causes, secondary causes, contributing causes, etc. What the government was after, apparently, as to have doctors list the primary or immediate cause of death on death certificates, not a more general or secondary cause. |
Jawn_Knee
Dec 21, 2006
| She was born in the state of Infancy and died
in the state of Trivia. |
Amber08071   
Dec 21, 2006
| YAY.....I got that one!  |
wordmama 
Dec 21, 2006
| 'Illegal' doesn't make any sense in the hint. |
schmedley9    
Dec 21, 2006
| i didn't like that one very much |
lukeschett   
Dec 21, 2006
| Is the part about his grandma dieing true?
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zaya 
Dec 21, 2006
| While an interesting factoid Cliff, how is this a teaser ?!?  |
bagogirl   
Dec 21, 2006
| people still die at old age  |
OhEmGee  
Dec 21, 2006
| to easy im only in 7th grade and i got it right away |
I_Write_Books 
Dec 21, 2006
| Very nice teaser! Definitely an interesting and informing one! Thanks!  |
LaMoV
Dec 22, 2006
| i think that the clue was misleading.. it wouldnt be illegal to die of old age... it would just be considered incorrect. |
vlerma   
Jan 17, 2007
| Good teaser. Death from old age still occurs tho - as the different organs shut down. Good info on this submission. More, please?
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vikingboy   
Jan 23, 2007
| I agree with a few others...it is not illegal to die from old age, it is just that the medical field is held accountable for being more precise.
People die from old age, and I'll bet my lunch money that there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people who died after that date that have old age listed as the cause. Gotta believe that the doctor in some small towns took a while to adopt the new policy. |
crocodile   
Nov 07, 2009
| MalcolmReynolds and shdwhawk do have a point. Great teaser! |
hjordis   
Dec 22, 2009
| She wasn't the first person born in that state, ever. She was just the first person born in the state that year.  |
MarcM1098   
Dec 22, 2009
| That's what it says: She was the first baby born in the state *in 1851*.  |
elentir   
Dec 22, 2009
| I'm not sure it is accurate to say old age is an underlying cause. Whatever the actual reason the person dies from, can happen to anyone at any age. The mere fact that they are older simply means more time has passed for that condition to occur for them. Had some magical cure been found for that condition (I.e. heart failure), the day before she died, and then a week after she is cured, she is killed in a car wreck, she still dies - and it wasn't due to old age, just that she lived long enough for that cause to happen.
Old age just means that more time has elapsed giving more opportunities for something to go wrong. When something does go wrong, that is the cause - not the fact that time has elapsed. I hope that makes sense...  |
auntiesis   
Dec 22, 2009
| I didn't get it. You either knew this one or not. Can't call a teaser fun when it is about death. But it was different.  |
EMB92 
Dec 22, 2009
| I'm confused as to why she would have been 100. If she was born in 1851, and died in 1950, even if it was one day before her birthday, wouldn't she be 98 turning 99? |
elentir   
Dec 23, 2009
| Her birthday was Jan. 1st, 1851. She turned 99 on Jan 1st, 1950. She died on Dec 31st, 1950 - one day before her 100th bday on Jan 1st, 1951. |
logicgenius   
Jun 11, 2010
| interesting.....
VERY interesting..... |
Babe 
Dec 22, 2012
| This is such an unpleasant subject when you are actually old. Interesting to you young people.
Even though it happens to everyone, it is not something to dwell on.  |
chimica
Dec 22, 2012
| The hint is incorrect. It is not illegal for someone to die of "old age - would they be arrested post-mortem? Deletion of "old age" as a cause of death simply means that a medical examiner (or other qualified individual) can't write "old age" as the cause on a death certificate. It is the action of writing it on a death certificate that became illegal for the medical person to do. And, it is true that one can't die from "old age". Certainly organs (etc) become weaker with age, but it is their failure that causes death, not age itself. Age is just a number... |
Maggiethe8th   
Dec 22, 2012
| I really enjoyed this. I have always been irritated by people dismissing someone's cause of death as merely 'old age'. You don't just drop dead because you're old. Was it that the heart stopped? Someone's chronic illness made an organ fail? There is Always something. As for people who got hung up on the 'illegal' thing, that's semantics only-just saying that it's no longer legal terminology.  |
mejajones
Dec 22, 2012
| Fun and interesting history at the same time. |
Bugger
Dec 29, 2012
| I think the policy enacted in 1951 is entirely reasonable. At the root, it makes no sense to say that old age kills people. |
Quocalimar
Dec 31, 2012
| is IS a teaser, it was posed a s a question to be answered.
it IS in trivia now, so it's a trivia teaser, to say it's not a teaser just because it involves something you need to already know is like dismissing any and every teaser you have no fore knowledge on.
it IS illegal. Illegal for whom, certainly not the deceased, the it is illegal to be written off. A doctor can't write 'old age' on the death certificate, they must autopsy, and find the ACTUAL cause, as many have said, faillure of a or some systems, caused old people to die. The logic that we die because we are old is based off of the logic that everyone's time to go is predestined. |
Obilio  
May 03, 2013
| Quocalimar, sorry but I strongly disagree. A cause of death, be it old age, extreme age, multi-system failure, single system failure or anything in between does not negate predestination - should anyone choose to believe in that. What it does do is cause families to spend more money (often against their will, at least until living wills became common). Also, it elevates science over humanity, which is more prevalent than ever. i'm not in the least anti-science, I just believe real science, statements based on observable, repeatable data, should serve mankind (and animal-kind and our environment), rather than the other way around. BTW, Thanks again, fun and informative!  |
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