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jaycr*us

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new Posted: 03:03PM Feb 4, 2012

We have a presidential election coming up in November 2012. The debates are in full swing and the Republican field has been narrowed to four candidates. I thought it would be fun, and interesting to discuss how people are approaching this election.

Do you plan to vote? In the 2008 election, the turnout was 56.8 % of eligible voters. Why do you suppose people wouldn't vote?
Do you watch the debates? Do you trust a certain media outlet for information? Do you do your own research?

Even if you live outside of the US, feel free to share your thoughts.

I realize politics can be a tricky subject to navigate, so I will respectfully request that the conversation be kept civil. No personal attacks, no name calling, let's keep it on an adult level.

If the mods feel that this belongs in the debate forum, then please feel free to move it.


It's not what you know, it's what people think you know.
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jaycr*us

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new Posted: 03:21PM Feb 4, 2012

This is the first presidential election my son is able to vote in. He has watched his first debate, and has done some fact checking. While he is excited to vote, he's not sure who he would vote for, but he has crossed some off his list. The same ones I have crossed out.

I have watched more of the debates than I care to admit. Speeches and political ads do nothing for me.


It's not what you know, it's what people think you know.
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horrordude0215Aus

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new Posted: 07:03PM Feb 4, 2012

This is the first election I'll be able to vote in as well. I've always been interested in politics since I was reading the Proposition Booklets they send out to my parents every year. I'm extremely liberal, so once the Republican Primaries are over, I'll be watching the debates more closely. I'm most likely gonna be sticking with Obama though
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idiot_originalA

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new Posted: 02:03PM Apr 22, 2012

No personal attacks, no name calling, let's keep it on an adult level.


we can't even do what the candidates themselves are doing? sigh... how unfair!


Human intelligence has peaked, and is declining. For proof, see Speaker of House
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Melanmel16us

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new Posted: 03:38PM Apr 22, 2012

lol Idiot original! I watch The Daily Show with John Stewart./ Besides that, I dont really know much about current stuff But the show's really funny!

LOL U ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WOULD WRITE SOMETHING INTELLIGENT HERE!!!!!! ...DONT JUDGE ANYONE!!!!!
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jaycr*us

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new Posted: 05:13PM May 12, 2012

snowmonster wrote:
....I'm not crazy about Mitt, I'm not in favor of socialism/communism so I do not care for Obama. . . . RP, I think would be ok, but he'll never be elected. . . . . because he's not taken seriously enough....


I wonder how many people are thinking the same thing? So here's my question: are you going to vote for a candidate you are "not crazy about", or cast a vote for who you think would be the best person for the job? I don't expect you to answer that, but it's something to think about.

This post was in this forum and i moved it here because it seemed to be more on topic. I hope everyone is OK with that.


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snappytom*

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new Posted: 08:26PM May 12, 2012

Don't trust any of them.

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RGW4Ausmod

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new Posted: 09:04PM May 12, 2012

I am not sure what I am going to do. I have not been crazy about Obama's performance... he really seems to be too much into himself. I said I wasn't for him when he first ran. but that was because I felt he did not have ANY experience in the main politics... he hadn't even finished one term as a Senator.

Mitt... I didn't have much to say about him, until I heard he has a foreign account where money is "hidden". I think this by itself is a total negative mark for someone running for President.

I think we are in for a 4 year roller coaster ride.

With that said, I am not sure about voting this time. Part of me is thinking of not voting, because I am getting tired of getting called in for jury duty every year, and I know they use the voting records for some of their jury duty summons. As a self employed person, it costs me money to do my "civic" duty... and I have served on some 6 cases and have yet to find anyone innocent.

Mel... I love Jon Stewart's approach to politics and the 2012 Presidential race stories. He actually has some good facts, but makes us laugh as we hear his take on things. But, I also watch the evening news at times to get a different perspective!


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idiot_originalA

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new Posted: 12:34PM May 13, 2012

my favorite turn of phrase (other than alaska drama queen) is f.r.e.n.j.
i define it as fundamentalist rightwing extremist nut job.
i saw how well it fit Rick Perry, and with the name calling going on here (re lefty) i think it is a great definition of those who have destroyed the republican party, to which i once leaned. i remain an independent who leans left, and continue to support Obama as the only choice free from the sick and selfish influence of the frenj. his accomplishments are as well as anyone at all could do in light of the damage done by the bush debacle.
the democratic truth team has done a wonderful job of demonstrating the continuous use of lies by the pac ads and Romney (playing follow the leader to the frenj lead) Romney is demonstrating himself as completely unbelievable, remolding himself at every turn of phrase by the pac leadership.
there is only one reasonable choice, but the people are simple, and may be lead by the most ridiculous fabrications.


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iforgotbraingleAus

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new Posted: 12:31PM May 22, 2012

I don't get the hype surrounding Ron Paul. His economics are quite obviously suicidal. Deregulating everything would set us back over 100 years.

Considering under Obama we went from losing money and jobs faster and faster and now are growing quite well, seems like a pretty easy choice. (Mitt Romney is all over the place. It's going to be hilarious to watch him rush from the extreme right to the (American) center.)

What's also amusing is the crazed evangelical Christians get to choose between Obama--a liberal--and Romney--a Mormon.


Well then.
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snowmonsterAusmod

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new Posted: 01:37PM May 22, 2012

I'd take my chances on a Mormon. . . .at least I know where he stands on issues, and for the most part is more conservative than a liberal. Nothing amusing about that. I still wish Allen West were running. I'm a Christian, but we don't have to have a Christian President, just one that can connect to all people but does not conform to their surroundings. Obama is very good at that. He's one person that wants to imprison those doing/selling drugs when he's being interviewed with so and so, and another person, when joking about his pot smoking and other drug activity college days with another. . . At least with Romney, you get what you see. Is he perfect? No, but he's the lesser of the two evils. RP - he's ok, but he'll never get elected. . .. and he, in my eyes, is the lesser of the 3 evils.

Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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jaycr*us

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new Posted: 08:06PM May 22, 2012

So snowy, are you planning to vote for who is best for the job in your eyes, or vote for someone else?
You only get this chance once every four years. It's a pretty important decision.


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snowmonsterAusmod

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new Posted: 08:35PM May 22, 2012

I will vote for whoever has the best chance to get Oblama out. Otherwise, I'm just throwing my vote away. And who knows, the person I vote for, may actually BE the best person for the job. We'll see. Are YOU voting for the person that best represents your party, or the best person for the country? Hmmmm . . . . .

Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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jaycr*us

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new Posted: 08:53PM May 22, 2012

Throwing your vote away? You are not throwing your vote away if you are voting for the person who you truly believe is the best for our country.
If you cast your vote for someone you believe is not best suited for the job . . . well you tell me. What are you doing with your vote?


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snappytom*

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new Posted: 10:50PM May 22, 2012

If one chooses NOT to vote, now THAT is throwing away your vote!

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snowmonsterAusmod

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new Posted: 10:59PM May 22, 2012

I'm helping to vote out someone that is even worse! Look at it this way. Let's say for instance Ron Paul is the best person running, in my eyes. . . . . and Obama is the worst, but . . . R.P. doesn't have the support to beat Obama . . . . what good is my vote for him doing? It's helping Obama get re-elected. In many eyes, both Mitt and Paul would make better Presidents than Obama. . . . so if "I" or others choose to vote for the one that has the stronger chance of beating Obama, why not! If I vote for R.P. and Obama wins, guess what. It's partly my fault because I could have voted for Romney. And just because I think R.P. would do an ok job as President, that doesn't mean he'd do a better job than Mitt - I don't agree with everything R.P. says and does and thinks. . . . . same goes for Mitt - but you better believe I like their views a lot better than Obama. . . so, wouldn't you say that if I voted for the person that has the least chance to beat Obama, I'd be throwing my vote away? YES!!!!! Either one would be better than Obama, but I will vote for the one that has the best chance to beat him. That's a no brainer! Look at what Ross Perot did way back. People voted for him . . . . they basically gave the election away. Why? Because he did not have a chance of winning! They threw their votes away.

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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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RGW4Ausmod

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new Posted: 11:15PM May 22, 2012

I sure wish Pat Paulson was still alive... he'd make a better President than anyone on the ballet... hmmm... come to think of it, he'd still be a better President than anyone on the ballet this year - I might have to write his name in.

Seriously, still on the fence.

And as far as what Snappy said, not voting may seem like throwing a vote away... but if I decide to NOT vote this time (my first time to not vote since I was able to)... it's because frankly, I just do not have confidence in either of these individuals being able to do the job. I am NOT anti-Obama... just have not seen him able to do the job (and frankly I think its because of the dang party system blocking him)... and as I said, not sure Mitt can do it either - so as Jaycr sort of said... if I am casting my vote towards someone I do not think can do the job.. what am I doing with it - throwing it away?

So... whether I vote or whether I don't, I'm throwing my vote away! Huh? So tell me again why I am wasting a 45 cent stamps (or is it more than that now?)... neither are worth 45 cents as far as I am concerned.


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snowmonsterAusmod

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new Posted: 11:36PM May 22, 2012

If you feel someone else could do a better job than the person who is in office now, then your vote is not being thrown away, unless that person, who you choose to vote for, has no chance of winning. . . . if you choose not to vote, you cannot complain if the person that gets elected does a poor job, or is the person you cared about the least, cause you could have helped keep him/her from being elected. As far as I'm concerned, those that do not vote, should never voice an opinion.

What is the party blocking Obama of doing? Going Socialism/communism all the way . . . . . Without the "party" we'd have a dictator.


Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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RGW4Ausmod

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new Posted: 12:11AM May 23, 2012

Really Snowy?

What is the party blocking Obama of doing? Let me answer that a different way.

First, I have never been one to really talk about politics or religion on an open floor, and even with this, I won't completely... but over the last four years, the party vote has been so much seen that it is a joke. I always love it when the state of the Union address is given and all of one party stands up for something that is said by that party's President... and the opposite party sits through it...with mild clapping. Republican... Democrat... it doesn't matter, it has happened each and every year. What ever party has the chair, the other party minimizes their achievements... why, because they fear their party will shun them. Something is wrong with that, in itself.

Let's just step back in time to the 2002 State of the Union Address. The country came together for that year... the party system at the state of the Union was minimized quite a bit, to show solidarity. One year later... still on the rebound from the 9/11 events, it was over for the most part. The party system had recovered, people were pointing fingers at what was done in the previous year... and we begin again this roller coaster ride of what has the party done for me this year.

I disagree that without a party we have a dictator... we can still have a democracy of rights and voting without having specific parties. We just might have a few more names on our ballet instead of only two or three. I could stand that. If there was only one name on the ballet... yeah, now we have a dictator. I think our political structure would not support a dictator such as Venezuela has... too many checks and balances in place.

And my final word on this... I do NOT feel someone else that is currently on the ballet list is going to do a better job than the person in office, any more than do I feel that Obama can do the job. This is not a lesser of two evils... I just do not see someone who is not all about themselves and there for me, as a citizen.

Scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the better person... all current individuals on the ticket so far... -1


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snappytom*

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new Posted: 05:17AM May 23, 2012

But not voting is like saying...do what you will...I am not going to think about what happens.
As far as I am concerned, I think if you do NOT vote, you dont have the right to complain about what the 'winner' of the election does or does not do.

If you are happy to have your mouth gaffer taped and your hands bound for the next 4 years...fine, do not vote. It is your choice. But remain silent when others make the choice for you.

That what is see happens in Australia too.


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