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AndrewWalker 
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 Posted: 08:23AM Feb 12, 2008 |
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Why do we doubt, I mean is it b/c we have an analytical mind, and we need proof, are we stubborn, do we just not want to believe, or fear, or some combination. The big thing I am having trouble with is I am starting to doubt about God, I know this isn't a religious site, but why do people doubt in general, I think it has something to do with trust, or proof. So what are your thoughts?
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Trickster1992
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Posted: 09:23AM Feb 12, 2008 |
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LOL
Pretty much everything you said is true.
Different people doubt for different reasons.. I was doubting God just last month, actually. Not His existance. His being with me. it just felt like he wasnt there at all.
Some people doubt about God because of stress--how can there be so much stress and pain if God is there? It doesn't make much sense. Some people doubt about God because they can't see him (I wonder what those people think of wind and radio waves). Some people doubt about God because they are stubborn and believe that having a religion makes them slaves (even though they are already slaves. you can't NOT be a slave to something.).
But if you go reaaallllyyyy deep down and figure it all out at the source
The reason we doubt God is because Satan wants us to. Sin hates God. Thus, Sin hates God's creation. Thus, Sin tries to destroy God's creation the only way it knows how--deception.
I dont know why but I always imagine this greater force, something worse than Satan. I call it Sin. Because Satan wasn't always evil, so how could he have fell? Sin. I know, I'm weird. Point is, you're doubting because Sin doesn't want you to go to Heaven.
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LCVolleyball
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Posted: 02:40PM Feb 24, 2008 |
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wonderful ideas trickster and i agree with you 100%. I admit that i doubt God is with me sometimes. One night it was really scary because as i was in bed i felt like God wasn't there and that demons were coming closer and getting their hands on me. I started to cry and pray as hard as possible that God would come back. Suddenly i felt a warmth and in my mind God was wrapping his arms around me and hugging me tight. I continued to cry but now it was from relief. I fell asleep that night feeling safe and that God was sitting next to me in bed watching over me. Later when i was telling my parents about it i could hardly tell them because i was crying about it again. I know it sounds like i'm all weeping all the time but really i'm not. I started to get tears again though remembering that night.
Even after that i still doubt God sometimes. I have come to realize that i doubt more if i haven't confessed my sins. satan gains a hold when i am not open and trying to be with God. But this is something many Christians deal with. Just wait until the day that we are up in heaven praising him for ever!!!
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Radioguy 
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Posted: 08:52PM Feb 24, 2008 |
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All you need to do to know God is there is believe that He is. Just because you don't "fell" that He is there, it doesn't mean He isn't. He is omnipresent.
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AndrewWalker
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Posted: 12:34PM Feb 25, 2008 |
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But why do we doubt other things? Like why do we doubt other people. Why do we doubt about anything. I think for some other things we doubt because are mind wants to protect us from disappointment. Why is it so hard to believe?
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Trickster1992
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Posted: 03:19PM Feb 29, 2008 |
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Usually because of past experiences. Like if a 3-year-old breaks your lamp, would you be able to believe, a year later, that the child isn't going to break your new lamp? prolly not.
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AndrewWalker
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Posted: 02:00PM Mar 7, 2008 |
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or maybe some people are too stubborn
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Writeaway
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Posted: 02:00AM Mar 13, 2008 |
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We doubt so much because know so little.
Life teaches us to doubt, and our minds are wired to question. The fact that we are able to doubt, theorise, and imagine new possibilities is what makes humanity unique among animals. Doubt breeds invention and the progress of society, it allows the development of new ideas and the shaping of our future. Doubt is a strong weapon, and when wielded correctly can be a strong tool for unmasking buried truths.
If you're Christian (and it appears that those of you who have posted above me are) then you can look to Exodus for an example of the power of doubt. I'm not too religious myself, but if I remember correctly Jacob wrestled with God for three nights - the Bible presents this as an actual match, but it is easy enough to see that he is questioning his faith, and that his faith grows stronger through his questioning. To doubt and to arise without doubt is to affirm and strengthen whatever belief you previously held. To doubt and to arise with a new belief is to forge a new path, and there is no real harm in either. Only you can decide how the effects of doubt will strike you, and only you can decide what you believe to be true.
The same statements apply to the daily relations of individuals, we doubt their motives, their sincerity, their comprehension, because we do not know. Often, we doubt ourselves for the same reason; but just as often we doubt ourselves (and our beliefs) for an entirely new reason - we do (or at least we think we do) know what we can not do. We doubt that we can approach the pretty girl on the park bench because we know ourselves to be shy, we doubt that we can run a six minute mile because we know that we are out of shape.
Anywho, that's just my humble opinion.  Feel free to tear into it.
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unklemyke
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Posted: 03:43PM Mar 14, 2008 |
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Doubt is a survival mechanism. It is that quiet little voice that you hear just before you're about to grab the piece of cheese off of that nice wooden platform with the shiny metal parts on it. The voice that says, "Wait a minute - what if this cheese wasn't placed here by a benevolent universe just to make my life easier? and what are those funny red-brown stains on the edge of the wood?"
Doubt is that kindly uncle who whispers in your ear while you are dancing wildly about, singing, "I've got an e-mail that says i've won 40 quadrazillion dollars in the Irish Sweepstakes and all I have to do to claim it is send my check for $10,000 to cover shipping and handling - I'm RICH, I'm RICH." And your kindly uncle asks, "But you never bought a ticket for the Irish Sweepstakes - how could you win"?
If you don't believe in the value of doubt, let me tell you about this great deal I'm going to let you in on. See, this cousin of mine works for the Treasury Department for the government of Upper Slobovia and there's 362 gazillion Fnortners sitting in this account in Switzerland that no one knows about but him. He can't make a withdrawal without arousing the suspicions of the govt, but if you would just send me $25000 to cover the transfer fees, we'll split it three ways with you..... If your doubt meter isn't kicking into the red zone at this point, you need to have it taken in for cleaning and re-calibration, no? 
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Writeaway
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Posted: 04:00PM Mar 14, 2008 |
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Well put Myke! Kudos to the kindly uncle. 
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Amme
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Posted: 09:38AM Mar 21, 2008 |
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Just because you don't hear God somtimes doesn't mean He is not there.
Like radioguy said He's omnipresent. In the bible it says "Be still and know that I AM."
When you pray and all you hear is silence you begin to doubt,
but when this happens you just have to stop crying and know that He is.
Stop and remember all the things He has done for you in the past, all the good things He has done for other people. At this point my faith boosts up and the doubt is gone. Then I know that He is. I know that He will help me through whatever is going on now like He has done for me before. And I know that He will help me for the rest of my life. And in that moment I don't have to hear Him speak, He's there. Watching over me, helping me and loveing me. Because in the end, even if things don't turn out right this time, He will always be.
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Trickster1992
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Posted: 12:48PM Mar 26, 2008 |
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I like Writeaway's thought pattern.
I cannot argue with Amme's post, but I must protest that the last part of it is just food for the suicidal.
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Amme
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Posted: 04:15PM Mar 31, 2008 |
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Yeah now that I really read what I wrote there, it does. 
But I think I can edit it.
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bebee-d
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Posted: 10:52PM Mar 31, 2008 |
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 Wow trickster1992 you speak words of wisdom..lol. i really like what you said about faith and believing in God... quote "Some people doubt about God because they can't see him (I wonder what those people think of wind and radio waves). "
I think for some people it is easier to believe in the wind instead of God because they can feel it but they THINK they can't feel God. I think thats only because they don't give God the opportunity. Trust me i ve been there
I really like how people are so open to talk about religion here, especially about God..when i mention God most people just go all silent or weird on me. This is a nice change.
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AndrewWalker
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Posted: 08:26AM Apr 1, 2008 |
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well it was a little easier to believe while in the hospitial, so thanks for the help
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grilledcheese
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Posted: 03:27AM Apr 3, 2008 |
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Honestly, I have a hard time believing in something that can't be proven. I have a huge trust issue, though, that may have something to do with it.
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