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brainster  

Panthera Tigris Posts: 16311
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Posted: 10:00AM Oct 1, 2007 |
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As proposed by Hrsemn, here is a topic for our quiz makers to share tips for good quiz making. Feel free to post suggestions and tips for other Brainglers on how they can make their quiz submissions more effective and get good quiz creator grades.
To keep the topic clean and easy to read, I request everyone to kindly not post anything other than tips. Don't post thank you notes to people whose tips worked for you, for example. This will only clutter the topic and will not help quiz makers to read information quickly.
A big thanks in advance to all who will contribute to this topic, and in doing so, will contribute to making the Trivia section bigger and better. 
And of course a big thanks to Hrsemn for coming up with the idea.
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Post from Hrsemn4 deleted on 10:17PM Oct 25, 2007.
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froggygg  

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Posted: 11:00AM Oct 1, 2007 |
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Hrsemn, that is a great tip! I receive so many quizzes that do not include any reference sites at all. This adds on lots of extra time needed for these quizzes to be verified and processed out of the QM queue. Many times, I have been unable to locate sufficient information to even verify the questions/answers and have to return it to the submitter with a request for reference links.
I have had the pleasure of reviewing some of your quizzes and commend you on your references and the ease of verifying your information. Keep up the fantastic work!
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Post from Hrsemn4 deleted on 10:17PM Oct 25, 2007.
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4demo 

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Posted: 03:55PM Oct 1, 2007 |
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This is really just common sense and not even an actual quiz making tip, but I just thought I'd mention it. When you submit your quiz, it's never a good idea to have rude comments in the Note to QM section, even ones asking them to please hurry up and get your quiz approved. Of course, good comments (such as thank-yous for finding mistakes and working diligently to help Braingle) are always a nice touch; they don't get your quiz approved faster or anything, but it's nice when a QM receives a short and friendly note in recognition of their efforts. Try to think about what you're saying to the QM before you send the quiz.
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solarsistim321 

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Posted: 04:11PM Oct 1, 2007 |
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Also, always preview your quiz before submitting. You find so many grammar and spelling errors it will really help to reduce the chances of it getting returned.
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LeafFan4life 

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Posted: 04:17PM Oct 1, 2007 |
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Use the proofreading tool to your advantage. There are many friendly Brainglers willing to assist you if you need help.
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Winner4600

♥ tango. Posts: 465
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Posted: 05:18PM Oct 1, 2007 |
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Also common sense... I think?
Remember that trivia quizzes are NOT to be written in "chatspeak" - so submiting quizes that are all lowercase w/ speling errors and poor punctuation will not get your quiz accepted no matter how much you beg in the comments section even if your facts are all extremely accurate ok
Back to normal formatting... you cannot believe the amount of quizzes that come on site with worse mechanics than the above (as you might see, I'm not that great at faking it...) If I may give an example: There was one quiz that came completely shorthand and grammar-free. It was returned, asking the creator to check spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation. The submitter fixed most of the spelling and sent it back. It was returned again, asking the creator to check spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation. The submitter fixed some of the punctuation and sent it back... and it has been returned again.
The point? Listen to what the QMs say, and don't rush to get your quiz back in the queue, because that's just a week that you could have spent touching up your quiz.
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4demo 

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Posted: 07:00PM Oct 1, 2007 |
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Also, be sure to make sure you're submitting to the proper category and subcategory if applicable. I got a quiz about a movie in History, which I sent back (but it also had numerous spelling/grammar errors, which goes back to what's been said above). If you're unsure of a category or stuck between two or more reasonable possibilities, post in the Ask Ed or Trivia forum.
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dolphingurl12 

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Posted: 07:39PM Oct 1, 2007 |
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If you feel that a series of quizzes are beginning to reduce in quality or enjoyment of the quiztakers, quit making them. Don't keep making a series just because there's more information to be quizzed about if they aren't maintaining a good rating.
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solarsistim321 

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Posted: 07:48PM Oct 1, 2007 |
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Or, opposite dolphingurl, if they're doing well continue a series. Or just do it because it's what you like!
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4demo 

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Posted: 03:24PM Oct 2, 2007 |
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Actually, I suggest a balance between dolphin and solar's arguments. If you're starting a series, continue it as long as the ratings are reasonably good (a rating below 1 probably isn't a good sign) and if you enjoy it. DO NOT MAKE A LONG SERIES JUST FOR POINTS/AWARDS - that's never a good idea, especially since it probably won't result in great ratings. Also, if the ratings aren't too good, try to ask in the Comments section why. Maybe the topic's pretty interesting, but the quiz is just too hard or it lacks good explanations. Those small things make a difference.
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lukeschett 

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Posted: 09:23PM Oct 18, 2007 |
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Proofreading is very important, but it doesn't always work perfectly.
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brainster  

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Posted: 08:16AM Oct 29, 2007 |
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I saw this comment while I was reviewing a quiz, and thought I should clarify why this happens:
While I agree that all the mistakes found were in need of correcting, it would be to everyone's benifit if the quizmasters worked together to find ALL mistakes the first time around. I don't understand why all mistakes aren't found at the same time.
Mistakes are not all found on the first instance because -
1. The quiz leaves the queue as soon as enough QMs have reviewed it. It might be that the QM who is sending you comments on the second round didn't even get a chance to see it when your quiz made its first round.
2. Because of the same issue listed above, the same set of QMs is not reviewing your quiz at every return. Also, we don't see the past comments sent to you and need to treat each review as a fresh one, unless we did a review earlier ourselves, and remember it.
3. Lastly, it is very possible that we missed something out the first time, and on finding it, are telling you about it the second time.
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swtcookie7195 

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Posted: 08:50PM Nov 16, 2007 |
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You should always use proofreading, but remember that if u don't want to make a certain change. Remember to always double-check your quiz before submitting it.
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4demo 

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Posted: 12:18PM Dec 29, 2007 |
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If your question is in multiple choice format, please double-check to be sure you have selected the correct answer. Sometimes, quiz creators may forget to select the correct answer, and the first answer is selected by default, even if that's not the right answer.
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grilledcheese 

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Posted: 04:08PM Mar 27, 2008 |
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For lyric quizzes, always look at others to make sure you get a gist of the right format (don't copy anything though).
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