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English Shiritori

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LogicalRogerAus

Posts: 2623

new Posted: 12:35PM Jun 23, 2013

I know there are similar games on here that challenge the posters to add words that start with the last poster's last letter, but this is more interested in syllables.

Basic Rules

1. Post a word or phrase that is:

A) More than one syllable

B) Has not appeared before in the current set

C) Fits the category given

D) Shares its first syllable with that of the last word's last syllable

To keep the game going, a word may either A) Sound the same as the last word's last syllable B) Look the same as the last word's last syllable or C) Both look and sound the same

For example all of the following are acceptable: Censure -> Sherbert [2 points for same sound but different letters]
Barter -> Terror [1 point for same letters but different sound]
Mousetrap -> Trappings [3 points for both looking and sounding the same]

Points are counted up until the 10th page in which a victor is declared for that game. A set consists of 20 posts. If a set lingers for more than a day a new set can be started (keeping all of the old points). Each new set has the first player choose a category that isn't too broad or too specific. [Types of fruit is fine, but types of oranges may be difficult]

There are also special rules that help determine score. Some of the following can be done but most are discouraged and result in penalties.

1. Japanese words - Although being English Shiritori, most words should be either English words or popular foreign words like taco or vodka, Japanese words are encouraged as shiritori works best with them. However, not intending to alienate English speakers, usage should be kept to a minimum and when used meaning and proper pronunciation should be given. If you use a Japanese word that fits the category you get an extra two points.

Thus, the following earns 4 points: Taco -> Koneko [+ 2 for homophone, + 2 for Japanese]. Koneko should also say "means kitten and is pronounced like ko-nay-ko" to ensure players understand what to use next and that the word given fits the category.

Because overuse of Japanese is not allowed, you lose 1 point instead of receiving a bonus every time you use more than two Japanese words within five of your turns. Thus, you can use your second Japanese word only after using five other English words.

2. Pronunciation should be based on standard pronunciation or allowable variances. American/British differences is allowable. Regional differences is allowable only if there is some history. In general, traditional pronunciation (when possible) is preferred.

3. 1 syllable words (pig, thirst) and Japanese words that end in -n (udon, unten) should be avoided when possible but are allowable if that is all you can think of or if no one is posting. This does deduct one point from your score and adds no new ones so it should be avoided when possible.

4. If you believe there are no more possibilities that have not been already said then you may start a new set and choose a new category, but if any of the next three players objects with a viable word or phrase the person who ended that set loses 3 points, so be careful. The category reverts to the original until the set ends or there are no more possibilities.

5. As well as multisyllabic single words, compound words and phrases of two words can be used. Phrases of three or more words or phrases that are not connected cannot be used and do not even count (no points are deducted, but the post is simply disregarded entirely).

For example, "bird of prey" cannot be used nor can something like "grey building" as the adjective is not connected necessarily. A phrase like "blue ribbon" or "silver lining" are acceptable as they conjure up a new concept rather than just a combination.

6. Words that are either the same or evoke the same idea cannot be used one after the other. However if something added makes it a new concept it is fine. For example Soda Pop -> Popcorn is fine, but Run -> Running is not because the second word means about the same thing.

7. Words that do not fit the category are accepted but two points are deducted from the usual score so try to stay on topic. If a word is from another category, the next poster must go back to the original category.

Also, although not necessary, try to work with syllables instead of words. Words might be tempting, but try to not just make chains of phrases. Nothing will be deducted for doing so, but the point of the game will be far removed from the original.

Okay, I hope that wasn't too long. Here are the first word and category:
Category: Food.

Cheeseburger. [No points as I started it.]
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sonic102cin

Posts: 187

new Posted: 02:13PM Jun 23, 2013

Germs. (that's related to food, right?)

1 point.

I have 1 point.


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LogicalRogerAus

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new Posted: 07:45PM Jun 23, 2013

Well, germs are everywhere, so they're not really related to food, so I'd say that's not the same category. Also, the word isn't two or more syllables so that would make it - 1 score normally, but I'm not sure if a word can be added next. If someone can do so, then you have -1 points, but if no one else can think of one, a new start might be preferable.
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AwwwSweet

Posts: 217

new Posted: 11:34PM Jun 24, 2013

Well the closest I can come up with (thought there is an extra "n" so not quite "germs") is a black bread from a specific origin:

German Schwarzbrot


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sonic102cin

Posts: 187

new Posted: 01:53PM Jun 25, 2013

Well, just think my post doesn't exist.

I think you get 1 point for that, Sweet.

Can I do rotten fish (3 points).
I have 3 points.


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AwwwSweet

Posts: 217

new Posted: 05:07PM Jun 25, 2013

I'm not sure (it's not my game), but I think you have to use the whole last syllable which would be "brot", right?

Also, if I ignored your post I would have said Gerkin pickles (ftw!), but I tried to work with it since you were just getting things started. (I didn't list any points because I was going to see what LogicalRoger ruled.) Oh, and...

Fish and chips (+3)

(I personally think the "S" should be optional on response... kind of hard in English to match plural food words. What do you think, Logical?)


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sonic102cin

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new Posted: 02:11PM Jun 27, 2013

Well, I'm not good with German syllables (are they the same?), so I just guessed that the last syllable is rot.

I personally think the 's' should not be there, but it's not my game.


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LogicalRogerAus

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new Posted: 07:58PM Jun 27, 2013

Yes, I'd say German Schwarzbrot is good for one point, but would be hesitant about rotten fish because it doesn't use all of the syllable. Although, not knowing how to pronounce it is fine. Just in case there's confusion for foreign words, one could try phonetically spelling it out.

I agree that plurals can be singular if there is no other option. But if someone can think of something with an -s in it, then go for it. If it's okay with you two, I'd recommend starting from "German Schwarzbrot," but I can't think of a word that starts with that. (Broth could possibly work, but it's somewhat different and only one syllable).

I can see this is somewhat difficult. Thanks for trying, guys.
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AwwwSweet

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new Posted: 10:46PM Jun 27, 2013

think sausage... though i'm not sure where we'd go from the end of that...

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