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Solutions to stop the SPAM

1. Ban external links from being posted in the New forum 0
2. Only allow users with positive karma to post external links1
3. Add a CAPTCHA system for registration8
All of the above5
Some other idea1
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HarryPutter*ca

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new Posted: 09:58PM Oct 10, 2012

The New? Start Here! forum is getting filled up daily with spam topics, and the mods can't be on 24/7 to clean it. We need to come up with a more permanent solution to stop this.

These are my recommendations for Jake:
1) Ban external links from being posted in the New forum. That forum is the only place being targeted and there is no context an external link would be necessary in an introduction forum.
2) Only allow users with positive karma to post external links. However, many of the spammer accounts somehow have positive karma without having positively contributed anything to the community....so this also calls for a reformulation of how karma is calculated.
3) Add a CAPTCHA or some other challenge test to prevent bots from making accounts.

Now comment and try to come up with other solutions. Maybe Jake can implement some of these if he sees there is support from the community, or use a better idea someone else comes up with.


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JQPublic

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new Posted: 08:44AM Oct 11, 2012

I think #3 is the most effective.

1. They can turn to General Discussions or use some other way to post links (like this: brain gle.com without the space)

2. The spammers are already getting positive karma by spamming.


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Smithy*enmod

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new Posted: 12:52PM Oct 11, 2012

I thought a captcha would be a good idea, but a lot of the spammer's accounts were opened in August 2011, so who knows how many dormant spammer accounts there are lying around here?

Jake is looking into it and I'm sure he will come up with something magical.


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HarryPutter*ca

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new Posted: 01:05PM Oct 11, 2012

Actually, I thought of a really good idea that I saw on a forum years back.

When someone is making their first post, they have to get it approved by a mod before it is posted to the site. I'm sure the mods will be able to weed out any bots that way. What do you guys think?


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Smithy*enmod

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new Posted: 01:12PM Oct 11, 2012

I have no idea how hard it would be to implement such systems technically, but it sounds like a decent idea. The rate of new posters we get here wouldn't exactly create too great a workload, but it may make new users lose interest right from the start if there isn't a mod on to approve their message straight away.

You could combine that idea with #3 and have a Captcha with a user's first post. (Again, I have no idea how hard it would be to implement that sort of thing.)


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ShadowsAcamod

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new Posted: 08:37PM Oct 11, 2012

The Captcha seems like the most effective and least tedious solution.

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LogicalRogerAus

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new Posted: 09:08PM Oct 11, 2012

Ugh. I hate captchas. I just hope captchas won't ever be a requirement for posting here. That would make the site terrible.

I have been noticing the spam as well and have been reporting the ones I see. It won't stop the posts, but at least they can be deleted. I'm unsure just how many there are daily, but I'll continue to report the spam on that forum when I can unless it gets to be too much.
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Smithy*enmod

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new Posted: 03:01AM Oct 12, 2012

I'm assuming/hoping the solution won't need to be as extreme as a captcha with every post, that would indeed be rather tedious.

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HarryPutter*ca

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new Posted: 03:08AM Oct 12, 2012

I think a first post captcha is the best idea so far

Jake has the site restricted for certain time, point, and karma thresholds...so I assume implementing something similar like this shouldn't be very difficult.


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JQPublic

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new Posted: 05:46AM Oct 12, 2012

First post capchas/mod confirmation sounds like a good idea, but will that make the spammers re-programme their robots to make them post twice in a row? The first one will get rejected, but the second may still appear.

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JQPublic

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new Posted: 06:46AM Oct 15, 2012

Sorry for the double post. I've noticed that the friend request problem has been getting more and more serious. Only by registration captchas can we actually solve this problem

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charlottes-oddAen

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new Posted: 01:01PM Dec 28, 2012

This may be a bit of a silly question but what exactly is a captcha? Im not much of a technical person, so things like that dont make much sense to me
But all the spam is really annoying, i really like the new? Start here part, i really like saying hi to new people and finding out about them, it was so lovely when i joined and everyone was saying hello to me


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Ihmisen*

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new Posted: 06:23PM Dec 28, 2012

I would just instate more moderators in that forum. Larger amount in more time zones could sweep the problem away very quickly.

...If the current ones are willing to share the spotlight...
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JQPublic

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new Posted: 07:44PM Dec 28, 2012

Charlotte, that's the funny-looking text you need to type in before you sign up for an account in most websites.

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charlottes-oddAen

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new Posted: 07:47PM Dec 28, 2012

OH RIGHT!!! i know the things you mean, never knew what they were called, thanks for clearing that up for me!

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HarryPutter*ca

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new Posted: 05:01PM Feb 6, 2013

It looks like a mandatory amount of points are required for noobs to post now. No clue what the threshold is, though I'm guessing it's 50 points.

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