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Diabetes

Know the difference between type one and type two13 (your vote)
Don't know the difference2
Is a type one disbetic1
is a type two diabetic1
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SaraGracetus

Posts: 485

new Posted: 06:11PM Nov 1, 2013

This month is Nation Type One Diabetes month do you know the difference? Well there is a difference. Type ones dislike when they are confused or people think 'oh I get diabetes from McDonalds' No No No..... Definately Not! The difference is type ones don't make insulin any more and type twos just don't make enough. Type ones also have to take shots or they have an insulin pump. I am a Type One Diabetic and I have a Mini Med Insulin Pump. What an insulin Pump Is Ok so post what you know or what you want to learn... I know a lot please ask lots of questions

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Steve1973Aus

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new Posted: 11:37PM Nov 1, 2013

Diabetes is a fictional disease that doesn't really exist. Right? Or am I just confused? What exactly are we debating here? It's existence? Which is better: type 1 or type 2? Which model pump is the best?

What's the debate here?

And if there isn't one, shouldn't this be in General Discussion instead? Or maybe High Karma? Subscribers? Grown Ups?

HEY!! Maybe that's the debate here: Where this topic should have been placed originally.


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SaraGracetus

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new Posted: 12:11PM Nov 2, 2013

Well this is the debate on how many people actually know about diabetes. It does too exist! You may be a little confuses. The debate is whether people actually know about diabetes.

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Steve1973Aus

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new Posted: 01:27PM Nov 2, 2013

SaraGrace wrote:
Well this is the debate on how many people actually know about diabetes.


Apparently very few people actually know much about diabetes, and this even seems to include people who have been diagnosed with it. Since we're debating here, I'd like to point out a few obvious flaws in your original statements.

First, you limit yourself to the discussion of Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes, when in fact the disease is broken down and diagnosed into three different, distinct versions -- Type 1, Type 2, and Gestational Diabetes. There is also Prediabetes, impaired glucose tolerance (IGT), and impaired fasting glucose (IFG), which you failed to mention or discuss at all.

Your only mention of treatment is an Insulin Pump, and yet you say nothing about exercise, diet, shots, or pills that can be used to help treat the disease. There's no talk of dialysis, kidney failure, death, nor the other grave consequences of the disease. No statistics on the number of people who are afflicted with it, or on the verge of being inflicted with it, and no reference to how it relates to the sharp increase in obesity levels in the developed world.

If your purpose is to debate to increase awareness of the disease, then I contend that you're failing at your goal. You've brought out no opinion, no controversial statements, no refutable data that people can respond and debate over. Change your hypothesis to something like, "Diabetes is the WORST disease in the history of the THE WORLD!! It's harsher than Cancer, or AIDS, or a runny nose!", and then support your statement. Doing so will give people something to respond to and debate with you on ("Nuh Uh! Heartburn is worse!"), and you can raise awareness levels to support your position on the illness.

But just saying, "Diabetes is a disease, and Type 1 is different from Type 2," does not make a debate... It's just a general awareness advertisement with no real purpose other than to be a BLIP in the midst of someone's day, like a commercial on the TV. ;D


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SaraGracetus

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new Posted: 04:55PM Nov 2, 2013

I am only trying to enhance awareness of type one every one assumes type two and type one are the same I am here because it is national type one diabetes month just to separate the two. I am a type one diabetic there is nothing that makes me more upset than a nondiabetic telling me what I cant eat or what I have have. I am saying there is insulin pump and the insulin shot I am not talking agog type two. There is also a pod which is very different. It has a separate machine. And there is no way that you would have any complications if you take care of yourself. I am focusing in the good parts not the parts like "oh if you have diabetes and you do bad you will go blind" Yes there are complications but that isn't the point. Diabetes Statics Click the link to see how many people are like me. This disease effects me more than you know. Do you wake up and 3 am and have to force yourself to drink juice. Do you have to pricked your fingers over six times a day. Do you have to take seven shots a day. Do you have to change your insulin site every three days. Do you have to go the health office at school bofore you can eat lunch. Do you have people ask about your "phone" "pager " or "beepers". I have heard it all I even have been asked about the "walkie-talkie" in my pocket. This is not just a little blimp this is an everyday thing.

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SaraGracetus

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new Posted: 05:00PM Nov 2, 2013

I wasn't meaning the questions just to you Steve just as a way to say what I mean. You also mentioned obesity Type one diabetes has nothing to do with obesity at all or exersise or pills. We are stuck with it until the cure.
Here is the debate-

Diabetes is the most misunderstood disease ever. It really should be called something other than what the other diabetes type two is. They really aren't alike at all. And some people think it is diabeetus. No it is diabetes. Diabetes. Diabetes.


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Ihmisen*

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new Posted: 01:28PM Nov 3, 2013

I am only trying to enhance awareness of type one every one assumes type two and type one are the same I am here because it is national type one diabetes month just to separate the two.

Yeah Steve! Who cares about the other three kinds?

I am saying there is insulin pump and the insulin shot I am not talking agog type two. There is also a pod which is very different. It has a separate machine. And there is no way that you would have any complications if you take care of yourself. I am focusing in the good parts not the parts like "oh if you have diabetes and you do bad you will go blind" Yes there are complications but that isn't the point. Diabetes Statics Click the link to see how many people are like me.

I have been the convinced the topic of this debate is "is this a debate topic".

The answer is no.

TOPIC LOCKED!

Do you wake up and 3 am and have to force yourself to drink juice. Do you have to pricked your fingers over six times a day. Do you have to take seven shots a day. Do you have to change your insulin site every three days. Do you have to go the health office at school bofore you can eat lunch. Do you have people ask about your "phone" "pager " or "beepers".


Yes. What's your point?



In your double post, because those are allowed now, you pose an actual debate topic, 9 posts into the thread. So I'll respond to it.
For those who don't like scrolling:
Diabetes is the most misunderstood disease ever. It really should be called something other than what the other diabetes type two is. They really aren't alike at all. And some people think it is diabeetus. No it is diabetes. Diabetes. Diabetes.


No, Diabetes is not the most misunderstood disease ever. Most doctors of relevant fields know how to treat it and deal with it. Furthermore, you actually *have* a large number of doctors who can help with it. You have pharmacies that will give you your medicine without blinking an eye. Nobody is legislating to take away your treatment. Most people in the developed world recognize diabetes as a bad thing that needs medical attention and most medical professionals understand what needs to be done.

You want a really misunderstood condition? Try GID/Gender dysphoria. Finding medical professionals who have any idea what to do can require driving hundreds of miles to the nearest very large city. One necessary treatment, GRS, has a total of two surgeons in the US, one in Canada (and some elsewhere with stats I'm not looking up right now). Diabetes has more than two. Way more. People with GID also have the fun of legislators trying to withhold treatment on "moral grounds".

So no, diabetes is not the mostest misunderstoodest disease everest. Most people don't know the specifics, but then I'm guessing you can't tell me anything about my exotropia. Which muscles it affects? Even the general symptoms? The rarity of capable surgeons? My guess is no, you can't, because it's not advertised.
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Steve1973Aus

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new Posted: 02:40PM Nov 3, 2013

Ihmisen wrote:
So no, diabetes is not the mostest misunderstoodest disease everest. Most people don't know the specifics, but then I'm guessing you can't tell me anything about my exotropia. Which muscles it affects? Even the general symptoms? The rarity of capable surgeons? My guess is no, you can't, because it's not advertised.


Exotropia is what my Grandfather used to refer to as a "pervert's disease!!"

It's caused by staring at the pretty girls all day long, out of the corner of one eye, and not being honest with your feelings and simply staring outright like a man should. Real men stare; perverts develop "wandering eyes"....

If I had to list the most misunderstood disease out there, then I'd probably go with Autism. Most people have heard of it. A majority of people believe they know what it is. And the majority of that majority is wrong.

When people think Autism, they think "Rain Man" and Dustin Hoffman. And, while it is true that there is one type of autism like the one depicted in the movie, there's a whole wide range of the autism spectrum. Autism tends to represent itself in many different ways. Some children with autism can recite airline crashes like the "Rain Man", others with autism seem to live in a world all their own. Some children focus on one activity or object with intense focus. Doctors can use a set of cues, including impaired social interaction, language development and certain behaviors to determine if a child is autistic.

So it's hard to specifically define, "What is autism."

And it's also hard to define, "What causes autism."

Some people claim it's living near power lines. Some claim it's fluoride in the water. Growth hormones in milk. Vaccinations in children. Michael Savage claimed it was the result of "lazy parenting", and he described almost every child with autism as a "brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out" .

And then as if not knowing what it is, or not what causes it isn't confusing enough; no one even knows the proper way to treat it. Some think medications are needed. Some think therapy. A few extremists claim that cutting out gluten and wheat will get it under control. (Jenny McCarthy claims simply not eating wheat cured her children!)


So let's compare:

Diabetes: Easily tested for, diagnosed, and treated.
Exotropia: According to Grandpa, it's one of them "sin diseases" you get for not being honest. Treatment is just to openly stare at the pretty girls from now on.
Autism: Who knows what it is, where it comes from, or how to curse it?? There might be some disease somewhere more misunderstood than it, but if there is I don't have a clue what it might be....


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SaraGracetus

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new Posted: 06:02PM Nov 3, 2013

Ok I understand this isn't a debate. I sorry posted it in the wrong place sorry. I just want people to understand the difference. I just hare it when people don't know and assume they know everything.

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Ihmisen*

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new Posted: 11:28PM Nov 3, 2013

Steve, I'd find it amusing to hear an opinion from someone with an opinion such as your grandpa's on exotropia on the fact that I was born with it Guess the womb is the hippest nightclub in town.
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new Posted: 06:21PM Nov 4, 2013

This was moved to the General Discussion Forum per request of author. Mod Bluegrasss
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SaraGracetus

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new Posted: 06:28PM Nov 4, 2013

Thanks you blue! Also thank you all who have voted on my pole. I am curious to see how many diabetics we have here on braingle

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