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Historic Supreme Court Ruling


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new Posted: 05:30PM Jun 27, 2015

Gays and lesbians can now legally marry in all fifty states. Any thought, guys?

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new Posted: 10:10PM Jun 27, 2015

Sounds great. I hope those who oppose it don't change it to the backwards way it used to be. The only opposing argument I've heard that ever had any amount of clout on this issue was the idea that prejudiced priests would be forced into performing gay weddings. Even that is such a minor issue (it's not like you must always like your clients or their views) and I'm sure there are enough open-minded people that it won't ever be a big issue, just a shouting point.

People are seriously angry about this on ground of freedom of speech? What joke is this? I'd understand if the law entailed that no one could ever say they dislike gay marriages, but as long as they can do that, how are they losing freedom of speech? I don't like that churches get free taxes, but does that mean they are oppressing my freedom of speech too?

Kudos to those who want to marry and be happy. It won't ruin society in any way. If you dislike the ruling then you can always plant your nose back in your book and keep it there.

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new Posted: 08:54AM Jun 28, 2015

Yes one question. Where I live it says only a husband (defined as a man) and wife (defined as a woman) can divorce. So according to SCOTUS they can get married, but here according to the State Law how will they get divorced. The SCOTUS failed to include this in their decision.

Edited for those who need help SCOTUS = Supreme Court of the United States.

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new Posted: 09:23PM Jun 29, 2015

LR, you bring up a point that I am sure will be an issue, even though it shouldn't be. If a person has a conviction to believe that marriage is only between a man and a woman due to their religious beliefs, I believe they should be allowed to "dis-qualify" themselves from performing the marriage.

I married a Catholic in a Catholic church by a Catholic priest and I am definitely not Catholic. I did the necessary "classes" beforehand, and I did make the promise to raise my children Catholic. Ok, enough said on how I finally got to marry my wife some 37 years ago ... if I did not follow their rules, we could not have been married in the Catholic church, by my wife's uncle (who is a Monsignor in the Catholic Church, now retired).

I would not be surprised if this problem of finding someone to marry some of these folks does not come up now because they may feel they should be able to get married in any church of their choice. The church and state must be separate... that too is in the Constitution.

And just as a single point, someone who believes in the words of the Bible who feels that a marriage is to be between a man and a woman only, is following the words of the Bible... you may wish to call it prejudices, and I will not debate that here, but for some, it is a matter of conviction.

No debate mostly because if a debate starts, this topic will need to be moved to the debate forum.... )though discussions are fine. Mod RGW4

If a church does not recognize this "ruling" as something they wish to honor, then so be it. There are plenty of ordained ministers out there that can marry people and if the two who wish to be married feel strong enough, why should they try to make it an issue? Find the church that will accept your way of life, or just get married at city hall where no religious following is necessary.

You also make an interesting point Blue... but I am sure someone will point this out to them soon enough to get an amendment to their ruling???

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new Posted: 12:57AM Jun 30, 2015

I see that several states have already started to fight back... but the article goes on to say that most of their efforts will be for naught... the Supreme Court has spoke.

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