The Werewolf Game
Game #1261: C&I 7 The Supise Attack.
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This game finished in 9 rounds.
It would be nice to know who we had shot so far?
I agree.
It also appears that the night timed out again. Wish I knew exactly what that means as well. I see that Soccaboy finally logged in, could that mean something? I don't know. I'm getting frustrated not knowing anything.
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It also appears that the night timed out again. Wish I knew exactly what that means as well. I see that Soccaboy finally logged in, could that mean something? I don't know. I'm getting frustrated not knowing anything.
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I also wish we had known who we've shot before. Maybe one of the wolves kidnapped Stewie so he couldn't tell us (I hope he's okay).
Since we know ppjones was a wolf, maybe he could let us know if we've shot any other wolves (if he remembers who they were). But that's on the line of outside communication, although we would have received the information anyway.
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Since we know ppjones was a wolf, maybe he could let us know if we've shot any other wolves (if he remembers who they were). But that's on the line of outside communication, although we would have received the information anyway.
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I learned one thing: Ending the day round did not help the wolves vote faster.
We also know that there must be at least one wolf remaining because the game would have ended otherwise.
We have shot 6 people - 1 wolf, 1 seer, and 4 unknown. In a 20 person game there are 4 wolves. So of the 4 unknown we can know that at least 2 must have been human (for 1 wolf to have been shot and 1 wolf to remain, we could only have shot 2 wolves, meaning the other 2 had to be human).
In round 1, Hermoine and Pineapple had had a majority for candygirl, but soccaboy created a tied majority for ppjones. (wolf shot)
In round 2, Nicats is shot for being offline and the reason the night timed out. (seer shot)
In round 3, Hermoine is shot for having been in the non-ppjones majority. (wolf shot?)
In round 4, Trill and Piney voted together to shoot fantoosh. (probably not a wolf)
In round 5, Piney, Smithy and Candygirl were in a tied majority. (wolf shot?)
In round 6, Candygirl was shot for being inactive. (probably not a wolf)
The smithy/candygirl/pineapplemama trio (round 5) could have had one wolf involved. Since Trill cast the final tie vote for candy, it could be that he was trying to increase the odds of smithy or pineapplemama not being shot, so as to save a fellow wolf (or maybe even 2 fellow wolves). Smithy could have been a wolf and lost the Russian roulette, or pineapple could have been the wolf and with the increased odds of 2 other victims survived being shot.
Piney has been on my watchlist anyway (because of the WTB confusion (either she was thinking wolves don't really vote like boss and rat, or she was thinking votes aren't posted in this game, like they aren't in WTB - the former has me concerned), so I'm going to vote for her.
EDIT --Trill, if ppjones were to tell us the identities, who do you think he should reveal this to? Since he has been shot he can't post anything himself. He would have to say it in PM and then we would have to trust that person to honestly convey the message of identities. Because voting patterns can reveal wolves, I'm not so sure I would trust anybody but the mod to say who was what.
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"Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box" Italian Proverb
We also know that there must be at least one wolf remaining because the game would have ended otherwise.
We have shot 6 people - 1 wolf, 1 seer, and 4 unknown. In a 20 person game there are 4 wolves. So of the 4 unknown we can know that at least 2 must have been human (for 1 wolf to have been shot and 1 wolf to remain, we could only have shot 2 wolves, meaning the other 2 had to be human).
In round 1, Hermoine and Pineapple had had a majority for candygirl, but soccaboy created a tied majority for ppjones. (wolf shot)
In round 2, Nicats is shot for being offline and the reason the night timed out. (seer shot)
In round 3, Hermoine is shot for having been in the non-ppjones majority. (wolf shot?)
In round 4, Trill and Piney voted together to shoot fantoosh. (probably not a wolf)
In round 5, Piney, Smithy and Candygirl were in a tied majority. (wolf shot?)
In round 6, Candygirl was shot for being inactive. (probably not a wolf)
The smithy/candygirl/pineapplemama trio (round 5) could have had one wolf involved. Since Trill cast the final tie vote for candy, it could be that he was trying to increase the odds of smithy or pineapplemama not being shot, so as to save a fellow wolf (or maybe even 2 fellow wolves). Smithy could have been a wolf and lost the Russian roulette, or pineapple could have been the wolf and with the increased odds of 2 other victims survived being shot.
Piney has been on my watchlist anyway (because of the WTB confusion (either she was thinking wolves don't really vote like boss and rat, or she was thinking votes aren't posted in this game, like they aren't in WTB - the former has me concerned), so I'm going to vote for her.
EDIT --Trill, if ppjones were to tell us the identities, who do you think he should reveal this to? Since he has been shot he can't post anything himself. He would have to say it in PM and then we would have to trust that person to honestly convey the message of identities. Because voting patterns can reveal wolves, I'm not so sure I would trust anybody but the mod to say who was what.
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"Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box" Italian Proverb
Okay I'm good and confused now.
I'm going with first poster again.
No reason (or Rhyme) just because I'm totally lost and don't want to be booted as inactive.
Fractions are romantic.
I'm going with first poster again.
No reason (or Rhyme) just because I'm totally lost and don't want to be booted as inactive.
Fractions are romantic.
Personally, if it could be arranged for ppjones to tell someone if we got any other wolves, I would trust Snowy with my life. She was already wolf food, so we know she was human, right? I just don't know if this would be permissible. My thoughts are if ppjones told Snow if any other wolf has been shot, she could PM each of the remaining players with his answer.
In any event, thank you Strat for your summary of the game so far. Not that it is giving me any incite, but it does gives me something to work with besides my confused thoughts.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
In any event, thank you Strat for your summary of the game so far. Not that it is giving me any incite, but it does gives me something to work with besides my confused thoughts.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Well, at least we have an active crew again. Strat, nice post there. Your logic looks fairly good to me. Again, I don't know why Pineapple sees the need to keep casting fish votes for the first person. This isn't like Who's the Boss. You can't get booted for not voting. My vote will be cast *again* for Piney.
Livin' that mom-life...
Livin' that mom-life...
See copy of PM I just got from PPjones.
From: Add ppjones to your Friend List / Foe ListppjonesAus**!!!!
To: bradon182001Aus***
Date: Dec 13, 2008 03:46PM
If people agree, I am OK with revealing where you guys stand in the game.
Thoughts anyone?
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Since snow is out of the game she cannot post in the discussion and, therefore, if she were the messenger, she would have to PM everyone. I dont see any reason for ppjones to PM snow and then snow to PM everyone when (if he is willing) ppjones could just PM us all himself and skip the middleman. I will trust it coming from the horse's mouth (not that ppjones is a horse )
I merely did not want ppjones to respond to an active player (for ex. bradon) with the identities and then bradon be responsible for repeating his PM in the discussion-- there is no rule saying she would have to do it honestly. She would be within her full right to lie and say there is only one wolf left when, perhaps, we have all of them left; to say someone she voted to protect was human when they're really a wolf; or say someone she shot was a wolf when they weren't.
I am okay with ppjones revealing where are we are if 1) ppjones is willing to reveal in PM to everyone still in the game, or 2) create a talkbox and invite the remaining players with a single locked topic saying where we stand.
"Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box" Italian Proverb
I merely did not want ppjones to respond to an active player (for ex. bradon) with the identities and then bradon be responsible for repeating his PM in the discussion-- there is no rule saying she would have to do it honestly. She would be within her full right to lie and say there is only one wolf left when, perhaps, we have all of them left; to say someone she voted to protect was human when they're really a wolf; or say someone she shot was a wolf when they weren't.
I am okay with ppjones revealing where are we are if 1) ppjones is willing to reveal in PM to everyone still in the game, or 2) create a talkbox and invite the remaining players with a single locked topic saying where we stand.
"Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box" Italian Proverb
Fine by me to reveal who we have shot as we would have known anyway.
Have to go for Piney as it is silly to vote simply for a first poster at this stage!
Have to go for Piney as it is silly to vote simply for a first poster at this stage!
I'm agreeable with Strat's suggestion, either one.
Edit to add: Today is Piney's birthday. Happy Birthday Piney.
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Edit to add: Today is Piney's birthday. Happy Birthday Piney.
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Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
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I'm all for PMing Jones, since Stew seems to be out of commision it seems fair.
If we ALL agree, and ALL get the info, then it wouldn't really be cheating.
2
Last time y'all gave a decent reason why we should vote for someone, so I did.
But this time you haven't so I just picked one, hence calling it a fish vote.
(BTW do y'all know the origin of the phrase fishvote??)
When I registered my vote only one other person had and it was for me!
I won't join a majority against myself, talk about silly, but if you have a logical choice I'm up for it.
I agree that we need to do something, but I haven't a clue and don't want to lead the charge...
... esp if the charge is straight off a cliff.
3
Thanks Bradon.
Fractions are romantic.
I'm all for PMing Jones, since Stew seems to be out of commision it seems fair.
If we ALL agree, and ALL get the info, then it wouldn't really be cheating.
2
Last time y'all gave a decent reason why we should vote for someone, so I did.
But this time you haven't so I just picked one, hence calling it a fish vote.
(BTW do y'all know the origin of the phrase fishvote??)
When I registered my vote only one other person had and it was for me!
I won't join a majority against myself, talk about silly, but if you have a logical choice I'm up for it.
I agree that we need to do something, but I haven't a clue and don't want to lead the charge...
... esp if the charge is straight off a cliff.
3
Thanks Bradon.
Fractions are romantic.
Most importantly, Happy Birthday Piney!
I would sure like to know where we stand, and if Stewie were around, we would know. Since that is the kind of game we signed on to, I think a PM from PP would be fine. Knowing everyone was getting the info independantly, I doubt if any wolf would mis-report the info. So, put me down for a yes on the Ppjones disclosure. I think Stewie would appreciate the assist.
I was thinking TRILL this round for not participating much, but he has posted this round and his suggestion does not sound wolfish to me. I'll hold that thought for now.
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I would sure like to know where we stand, and if Stewie were around, we would know. Since that is the kind of game we signed on to, I think a PM from PP would be fine. Knowing everyone was getting the info independantly, I doubt if any wolf would mis-report the info. So, put me down for a yes on the Ppjones disclosure. I think Stewie would appreciate the assist.
I was thinking TRILL this round for not participating much, but he has posted this round and his suggestion does not sound wolfish to me. I'll hold that thought for now.
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Date: Dec 13, 2008 072PM
I am sending this to all eight players still in the game. I wanted at least 6 out of the 8 to agree to me sending this info and by my count I have six confirmations.
First of all I AM NOT A HORSE......
Second, there are three wolves still in the game, you will need to shoot one for the game to continue past this round.
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Let's hope we get lucky and catch a wolf this round.
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I am sending this to all eight players still in the game. I wanted at least 6 out of the 8 to agree to me sending this info and by my count I have six confirmations.
First of all I AM NOT A HORSE......
Second, there are three wolves still in the game, you will need to shoot one for the game to continue past this round.
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Let's hope we get lucky and catch a wolf this round.
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Ouch.. yes, I got the same PM. I guess we would call this the worst case scenario. I want to review the rounds with this new information before placing my vote. I will be back to vote. I am sure all the wolves will be voting.
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Knowing all we've shot were humans, Piney does seem the most likely wolf to me from the voting pattern. She did not vote for Hermoine in round 3, but we had 7 who did and that would be a nice majority for a wolf to steer clear of. I think she had the next highest number of votes that round. She was one of two voting for Fantoosh in the next round and in the following round voted for Smithy as part of a three-way tie that included her, which Smithy lost. Last round she helped vote off Candygirl.
From her voting pattern and some of her posting behavior, I think she seems the most suspicious. I don't seem to be alone in my suspicion. I'll leave it to others to form their own opinion about the other rounds. She also did not vote for Ppjones, but neither did a lot of us.
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Knowing all we've shot were humans, Piney does seem the most likely wolf to me from the voting pattern. She did not vote for Hermoine in round 3, but we had 7 who did and that would be a nice majority for a wolf to steer clear of. I think she had the next highest number of votes that round. She was one of two voting for Fantoosh in the next round and in the following round voted for Smithy as part of a three-way tie that included her, which Smithy lost. Last round she helped vote off Candygirl.
From her voting pattern and some of her posting behavior, I think she seems the most suspicious. I don't seem to be alone in my suspicion. I'll leave it to others to form their own opinion about the other rounds. She also did not vote for Ppjones, but neither did a lot of us.
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Rather than prolong this any longer, I'm going to follow suit and vote Piney. We will all either sink or swim together.
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