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The Werewolf Game #2812

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 4 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 03:49PM Oct 13, 2012

EAting Cab, what an ingrate

So the three vessells sailed on into the cold heart of the Atlantic. Although the greater perils still remained unseen, nights at sea harbor no shortage of danger. Cab, being dehydrated and severly delirious from the long nights at sea, made a pass at Sir Har. It was not the wavey ocean alone that contributed to the fierce rocking of the ship that night. The next day, when clearheadness returned to Cab, she launched herself from the bow majesitcally and was never seen or heard from again....sorry Cab

The sailors congregate in shock, and to give Cab an aggregrate score of 9.7 on the dive. Just then, up ahead in the sea, another ominous vessel loomed on the horizon. What is it with this Ocean?!

THE SEER SAILS ON

please keep complaints about night length to a minimum!


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Smithy*en


Posted: 04:13PM Oct 13, 2012

My blind shots have been better than my calculated shots recently, not sure whether to be pleased at my luck or displeased with my ineptitude!

Just to regurgitate what I said last round, Jake was interesting, from what he was saying he sounded like he was pretty sure he wanted to shoot celt over evi yet he never actually voted accordingly. Could potentially be a wolf trying to set up a non-suspicious rescue or trying to talk someone else into doing the saving, or indeed could be a human genuinely doing a surprising amount of thinking for round 1. My vote for now is going to Jake but partly as a SPV, definitely subject to change depending on how the round pans out.


"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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HarriDansker*dk


Posted: 04:18PM Oct 13, 2012

I'm thinking however Evi got shot makes me think she was expendable to the other wolf That's why I'm looking more at chingi than at Jake since she seemed pretty certain in an Evi vote. I don't think Jake would explicitly defend a fellow wolf (esp if they were going to be inactive), he'd most likely jump on the bus imo.

I'll lock in a fish on chingi for now


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JakeTADAus


Posted: 04:23PM Oct 13, 2012

I don't see why I am suspect to you smithy. I would have stayed out of it or thrown evi under the bus. I have thrown people under the bus for fun before. I wouldn't risk myself for someone that isn't even active anymore.
Anyways I am out with friends now. Talk later after spv.


bah
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Smithy*en


Posted: 04:28PM Oct 13, 2012

Good to know you're such a poor team player Jake.

Putter do you really think someone who got a wolf shot is your BEST option in a game where we have so few chances?


"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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debc1A


Posted: 05:15PM Oct 13, 2012

going to do a list

and who is putter?? but very funny first line

hey dan good story

celtichero - thinking human because evi voted for him...i know doesn't mean anything blah blah
debc1 - human
GreenApples27 - was a wolf last game don't think so this game...i know every game blah blah
HarriDansker - wild card
JakeTAD - ok the thinking was a little to much thinking in round 1
ka-ching - thinking human
SirHar- just feel bad for him
Smithy - thinking human

sooooo that leaves me with jake

oh wait putter is dansker!!??


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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 05:47PM Oct 13, 2012

Wow, I sure missed an eventful last round! Well done on shooting a wolf, Smithy, though this does mean you're the other wolf, right?

I read last round and I was leaning towards Jake, purely for the fact that he can't claim he's human due to his acts last round, yet he's trying to play the reverse psychology card and it just annoys me that he's trying to make us feel we're wrong in suspecting him due to one of the most basic and obvious signs of a partnership... Hmmm...

For now I will put in an SPV but I will most likely change to Jake later on, but I'll give it time to see if I find a better candidate.
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HarriDansker*dk


Posted: 06:20PM Oct 13, 2012

Yes I am putter. my other acct got tied up in another wwg.

And I'm just looking for a explanation for how evi got shot besides blind luck. though I guess it could just be that.
I do still find it pretty strange how confident it seemed considering there were others like cab who were talking about being inactive yet weren't targetted. I've bussed wolf partners in round 1 without hesitation so I wouldn't be surprised if others do too - especially when it could buy them easy pseudo-immunity by the suggestion there are so few chances in a 10p game.

Just throwing some ideas out there


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JakeTADAus


Posted: 06:27PM Oct 13, 2012

Ok I guess I will need to defend myself here.
Guys I am an experienced player. Would me being a wolf make sense if I knew there was a 50/50 chance of evi being shot and discovered? No.
You should look at those that stayed out of the majority or voted evi in an attempt to clear themselves.


bah
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 06:29PM Oct 13, 2012

Actually voting smithy.
Look at his post last round. Not only the "if she turns out to be a wolf post" but mainly the one were he is setting me up to be shot this round because HE KNOWS the identity.


bah
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 06:34PM Oct 13, 2012

Smithy wrote:
My blind shots have been better than my calculated shots recently, not sure whether to be pleased at my luck or displeased with my ineptitude!

Just to regurgitate what I said last round, Jake was interesting, from what he was saying he sounded like he was pretty sure he wanted to shoot celt over evi yet he never actually voted accordingly. Could potentially be a wolf trying to set up a non-suspicious rescue or trying to talk someone else into doing the saving, or indeed could be a human genuinely doing a surprising amount of thinking for round 1. My vote for now is going to Jake but partly as a SPV, definitely subject to change depending on how the round pans out.

Take note he makes it a point to call it a blind shot and though I continues to set me up.
Theme here is "I got lucky" and Blame Jake who never actually tried to save anyone but if I say it enough you will believe it. "


bah
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celticherotus


Posted: 06:50PM Oct 13, 2012

Evi was a wolf which is certainly a good thing, and Jake does seem very wolfish, but I'm gonna wait before I vote.

I'm just an ordinary average guy with nothing to lose.
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 06:52PM Oct 13, 2012

Oh come on people.
Celtic at least put an Spv vote in.


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bah
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debc1A


Posted: 07:47PM Oct 13, 2012

lol

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JakeTADAus


Posted: 08:06PM Oct 13, 2012

I am going to ram my head through a wall here.

bah
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ka-ching


Posted: 08:47PM Oct 13, 2012

Seriously, Jake, your argument doesn't hold up. You were repeatedly reluctant to consider an Evita vote, it's a ten-player game with only two wolves - I don't think it's too far out of your realm of play to say you might have wanted to save her. That said, I'm only half suspicious of you. We could get into reverse and double reverse psychology all night, but I'm not going to. haha

Celt, where's your snide tone any more? I feel as if you've changed.
Plugging in a Jake vote (sorry Jake) for now. It takes 5 to shoot, so there's a decentish cushion there, but I think we're all headed the same direction anyway - except Putter, apparently. And Jake. haha
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 08:54PM Oct 13, 2012

Ok I have to.
I am the seer. Ching is human.
LOOK at smithy's post!
He has been leading up to his "clear" all last round and to get me shot. He has defensive about being shot before anyone even voted for him!
Jesus people!


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bah
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ka-ching


Posted: 08:56PM Oct 13, 2012

In the event that this is not a trick (which I don't really believe it is), I'll back off for a minute. haha Switching to someone less Seer-ish for a bit.
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debc1A


Posted: 08:59PM Oct 13, 2012

oh no...the seer card

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ka-ching


Posted: 09:02PM Oct 13, 2012

haha, Jake! Settle down, buddy. wow. It's impossible (okay, illogical) to be THAT convinced that Smithy's a wolf this early haha Especially if I'm the one you divined. Also, not really a Smithy thing to do in my opinion, but there's a first for everything.
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 09:03PM Oct 13, 2012

Ok do not shoot me or ching and obviously I will be eaten.
next round do not shoot ching.
PLEASE shoot smithy!

If I am not telling the truth would someone stand up and say so?

Either I am a wolf tricking you and the real seer will come forward and have me shot.
or I am the seer and your all foolish.

Since me and ching are the only trust worthy ones please don't listen to smithy anymore. Look at his post from your human perspective. Isn't it a little odd?


bah
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 09:05PM Oct 13, 2012

ka-ching wrote:
haha, Jake! Settle down, buddy. wow. It's impossible (okay, illogical) to be THAT convinced that Smithy's a wolf this early haha Especially if I'm the one you divined. Also, not really a Smithy thing to do in my opinion, but there's a first for everything.
Didn't he over play the "if evi is a wolf card" as well as calling me out as defending before evi was even shot? He knew her Identity.


bah
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 09:09PM Oct 13, 2012

Well, Jake isn't the Seer... but he's not a wolf either. A final wolf wouldn't claim Seer in this situation, because that's autoloss. So I think he's a human just desperately trying to not get shot.

At least he'll buy the Seer one more round.

I don't think Smithy is the last wolf, because shooting your partner round one of a 10 player game is so ridiculously stupid, since if the Seer lives and has divined you it's game over, and what was the point in taking the risk? Smithy is a human and you are so latched onto this idea, Jake, that you have risked outting the real Seer and you are messing with the human's heads, so well done.

Anyway, Smithy is not a wolf. Let's just get that out in the open. I am going to look for who I am going to make a competing majority on in a second...

EDIT: I think the final wolf is debc1 and that's who I'm logging my vote in for. She had no reason not to believe Jake as the Seer yet she kept her vote on him, and debc1 always eats caberet. I'm not even joking here, she always does. She always makes lists, but she made one rather early and out of the blue this round and I don't know, she just seems very off. So I think debc1 is the last wolf. Let's all change to her!

Jake, stop being so single-minded.


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debc1A


Posted: 09:10PM Oct 13, 2012

ok i will hold off for this round and go with my wild card choice

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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 09:11PM Oct 13, 2012

debc1 posted after my edit. I still think she's a good shot. My vote remains.
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ka-ching


Posted: 09:20PM Oct 13, 2012

I don't think Smithy is the last wolf, because shooting your partner round one of a 10 player game is so ridiculously stupid...

Jake, stop being so single-minded.
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 09:23PM Oct 13, 2012

Keeping my vote. Single minded? I considered other people but then there was no reason to suspect them until you posted about deb. Smithy was the only thing I had so I would appreciate if you don't call me single minded because i considered a different possibility than you.
Ok Cab being eaten is a decent sign but how is she "off"? I am not use to her play.


bah
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 09:27PM Oct 13, 2012

ka-ching wrote:
I don't think Smithy is the last wolf, because shooting your partner round one of a 10 player game is so ridiculously stupid...

Jake, stop being so single-minded.
Why? If the seer trust you they won't divine you and you win if you grab the seer.
You guys not even taking smithy into consideration seems rather thoughtless. I remember a game I threw golden under the bus when he was in no danger and won because of it. If the wolves win it's fine for them to do that.
So no it's not stupid really unless you are likely to be divined.

Again argue the fact that smithy posted in a way that made it seem like he knew identity and then covers his tracks in his first post this round.


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bah
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 09:39PM Oct 13, 2012

btw I am just annoyed that you all blindly accepted smithy as human and that he declared himself cleared. Now that deb is a good choice I will probably change my vote when i get up. Night. Seriously though you guys and gals need to understand that you don't clear anyone in this situation basically when the wolf shot was gonna be inactive and mess up the wolves voting when they are trying to eat the seer.

If evi was alive smithy might have trouble eating people he thought to be the seer. Anyways I am liking the deb vote.


bah
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ka-ching


Posted: 09:56PM Oct 13, 2012

I'm not saying I'm convinced Smithy's a human. I'm saying it's unlikely he's a wolf and not our best option.

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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 12:24AM Oct 14, 2012

I think SirHar is a human to be honest, I think Jake is human (if he's not he will definitely lose due to his Seer claim so I am not bothered by him), and Smithy is definitely human. I am unsure about MJ for now, but she seems helpful enough.

Leaving me with debc1, celtichero and Harry, I am more inclined to go with debc1. If Smithy was a wolf, the other Evita voter would have been eaten, in my opinion, and since they weren't, it's obvious Smithy is human.

I highly suggest a debc1 majority guys!
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:02AM Oct 14, 2012

THE SPIDER WON, KO ROUND 1

Carry on


Let the games, begin!
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Smithy*en


Posted: 01:35AM Oct 14, 2012

Jake seriously your ego can make you a really bad player, this is a team game you know. If you really think if I were a wolf I'd set up an inter-round conspiracy and take out my partner just to get you shot, you're pretty badly mistaken.

The reason I pre-empted suspicion on me last round is because in two of my last few wolf games I've got a wolf shot on a totally blind shot, and both times it's lead to people suspecting me when I've been human. You were in the last game (Spider's animal house game) so you should have been able to work that one out. It probably wasn't wise of me to mention it last round but with evi having a 4/5 chance of being human I didn't think it would matter.

Anyway, neither I nor anyone else is saying I'm cleared, merely that shooting a wolf puts me down the pecking order somewhat (as it should Ching).

This whole Seer claim stuff is pretty interesting, I'm not sure what to make of it. I could back a deb vote this round.


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"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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HarriDansker*dk


Posted: 03:24AM Oct 14, 2012

I believe Jake... since I still don't see him doing what he did as a wolf in R1.

Switching my vote off Chingi to felt for now.


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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 03:26AM Oct 14, 2012

I am off to sleep as school starts again tomorrow. Kill me now.

I am sticking with debc1 because it makes the most sense right now! Night everyone!
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JakeTADAus


Posted: 05:07AM Oct 14, 2012

Smithy wrote:
Jake seriously your ego can make you a really bad player, this is a team game you know. If you really think if I were a wolf I'd set up an inter-round conspiracy and take out my partner just to get you shot, you're pretty badly mistaken.

The reason I pre-empted suspicion on me last round is because in two of my last few wolf games I've got a wolf shot on a totally blind shot, and both times it's lead to people suspecting me when I've been human. You were in the last game (Spider's animal house game) so you should have been able to work that one out. It probably wasn't wise of me to mention it last round but with evi having a 4/5 chance of being human I didn't think it would matter.

Anyway, neither I nor anyone else is saying I'm cleared, merely that shooting a wolf puts me down the pecking order somewhat (as it should Ching).

This whole Seer claim stuff is pretty interesting, I'm not sure what to make of it. I could back a deb vote this round.

Ok this is really annoying.
Conspiracy? Have you ever played this game before? Wolves always set up the person to be shot next round. You did that last round.
Is it so hard to believe you should shoot a soon to be inactive team mate so the game won't stall up and further more mess up your votes? Actually that was your only good option genius. If you can't see that your hopeless

If smithy was a wolf then shooting evi was his only option. Also saying I am saving someone in round 1 makes no sense when that person is gonna be inactive. It's like he knew evi was a wolf. Had he not said that I would think of him as more human but I don't because of that.


bah
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 05:12AM Oct 14, 2012

Jake, do you realise that not a single person agrees with your logic on Smithy? Are you really telling us that all of us are blind and you're right, rather than consider that possibly you've stretched out this over exaggerated possibility of Smithy bussing his partner?

First you fake claim the Seer, and now you won't budge on your Smithy suspicion? I mean, all this is proving you are indeed human, as no wolf would do this, but it is honestly coming across like you want to be shot.

EDIT: How can you say that Smithy had no other choice than to bus Evita if Smithy was a wolf?! He had 8 other options!!! He was choosing someone to start a majority on! He knows we wouldn't immediately start a majority on him this round if he chose to start a majority on caberet or myself, who both stated we would be inactive for the round. You are really making too big a deal out of too intricate a things.

Step back and reevaluate without your biased opinion that Smithy is a wolf.


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JakeTADAus


Posted: 05:27AM Oct 14, 2012

Have you not read my post? I will be switching to deb most likely.
Also all this is because I am annoyed that he was cleared for terrible reasons.

ok say he had anyone but evi shot.
Now he has to deal with night time out. ( Not a big deal )
Also he has to worry about his choice of meal being messed up when finding the seer is essential.


Why wouldn't he throw her under the bus if he was a wolf? Seriously.


Maybe you should step back and rethink your terrible logic. Evi being shot in no way makes smithy more human. More wolf? No.
What makes me lean wolf on smithy is his choice of words when pointing the finger at me. Basically said I was trying to save someone, which makes little sense to say in that situation unless you knew evi was a wolf.


bah
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Smithy*en


Posted: 05:39AM Oct 14, 2012

Well... this is entertaining.

Jake what you are saying makes absolutely no sense. If I was a wolf I wouldn't have started the majority on Evi, I would have started it on literally ANYONE else, shot a human and nobody would have thought anything of it. Keeping an inactive partner is still beneficial as it means the other wolf/wolves have one round less they need to survive, and in a ten player game one round is a significant proportion. Besides having an inactive wolf wouldn't mess up Seer hunting as she wouldn't vote. Shooting evi if I was a wolf would have been ridiculous.

Like I said before, I know it doesn't clear me, but saying it doesn't make me any less likely to be a wolf is just stupid.


"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 06:37AM Oct 14, 2012

My logic is not terrible at all!

Jake, I'm not trying to convince you Smithy is human, I am outright telling you Smithy is human. I don't know how much more obvious I can be right now.

But let's say I was unsure and had to reread to get an opinion, you blatantly defended Evita last round, and in the first round where there was no information and no posts from Evita to suggest she's human, that is very suspicious of you to do! Do you not realise that? So it's perfectly acceptable of Smithy to state that he feels you were trying to save a fellow wolf in Evita. Humans do and should think of partnerships for the two wolves and you and Evita seemed like a plausible duo, and it so happened that Evita flipped wolf.

So do not criticise my logic, or Smithy's, when you are choosing to overlook such simple things.

Now, this whole Jake vs Smithy thing is distracting us from voting potential wolves! Buckle up guys!
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Smithy*en


Posted: 08:59AM Oct 14, 2012

Switching vote to Deb. Hoping things become clearer next round...

"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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ka-ching


Posted: 09:13AM Oct 14, 2012

I have nothing really to add that Smithy and GA haven't already said. The wolves' vote wouldn't be messed up if Evie timed out the Night - Smithy's vote would have been the only one standing and ergo, his choices would rather be cemented than messed up because Evie's vote wouldn't have contradicted him in any way. So that logic is bull.
Secondly, I've already outright said we never cleared Smithy entirely, but it would be imbecilic to shoot him right now.

I can support the deb vote, considering the eating last night, yeah. More I think it over, the better it sounds. I'm with you.

On an unrelated note, my father is this minute running a marathon. I can't imagine running for four hours, let alone actually do it.
Just throwing that out there. (:
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:53AM Oct 14, 2012

And Im gonna eat wings for four hours so what?

btw

LIONS vs EAGLES today baby


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ka-ching


Posted: 10:27AM Oct 14, 2012

Bring it on. baby
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celticherotus


Posted: 01:26PM Oct 14, 2012

I'm here. I'm still trying to figure out why everybody is voting for deb though. So if Jake is the seer and Ching is human, and I'm human, that still leaves five people. I'm not ready to finish off Deb so I'll vote for Har for now.

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I'm just an ordinary average guy with nothing to lose.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 03:48PM Oct 14, 2012

Sorry I was gonna write up something profound and poignant about how easy it is, in the midst of the carnage and paranoia of sea travel, for things such as purity and beauty to be tarnished and lost. With the loss of the Nina, and more importantly, Deb, such things indeed were lost beneath the waves...unfortunalty the Eagles blew a 10 point lead with minutes left to Ching's lions and its overtime and Im effin pissed

YOU SHOT A HUMAN

NOW SOMEONE PLEASE SHOOT ANDY REID

trying to fathom some of the things being said in Rhytmic's game


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