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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 5 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:50PM Dec 4, 2012

Rfm

Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:50PM Dec 4, 2012

That was nice of the wolves - eating an inactive.

Spv until we get identities.


Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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JJPutztus


Posted: 09:52PM Dec 4, 2012

Goin kitty here--her and koin seem suspicuos.
Invincibles:
Classic plot--Family, rivals, tights, baby with abnormal powers...And the *bleep* who almost wins.


On a scale of 1-10, how old are you?
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 10:16PM Dec 4, 2012

Hey guys, the movie for this round is- Enchanted.
sadface was the seer and roadmsater was a wolf.


The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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Izzie*


Posted: 10:19PM Dec 4, 2012

this game is really not making much sense to me

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 10:20PM Dec 4, 2012

Krmutldge, the mod is supposed to edit the RFM post, ad write what they have to say there. Hence, "reserved for moderator".

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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 10:21PM Dec 4, 2012

Thanks for pointing that out to me, because I did not know what RFM meant.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 10:21PM Dec 4, 2012

BTW, the winner of the last round has been pm'd.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:39PM Dec 4, 2012

Oh wow, so our seer (inactive anyway) was eaten but we shot one of the wolves anyway! What great luck

Okay, At 6pm, we still had 19hrs left to go, so the night did NOT time out. Meaning, we do NOT have an inactive wolf. I did that creepy thing where you keep track of the players' log in info - I checked at 2:10pm and again at 6: 04pm and then just now at 12:20am. There was only one player who can be cleared for sure: Bevy (She has not been on in 3 days)

Blackest_Red is questionable: at 6pm, it said he hasn't logged on since "yesterday" but now at 12:20am, it still says "yesterday". Which normally would mean he logged on after 6pm but before midnight, however Bevy was at "3 days ago" at 6pm but it still is saying "3 days ago" now at 12:20am. Is there a delay in Eastern/Pacific time? I'm not saying he's definitely cleared but we'll have to see if it changes to "2 days ago" in a few hours to know for sure.

So... I guess only Bevy can definitely be cleared at this point. No need to shoot her, since we know she's not a wolf (even though she's inactive). Now that we don't have a seer, there's no need to SPV, so I'm going to hold off until the morning. ^_^

I love Enchanted! I'll be sure to try hard to come up with something good Can the wolves win the hints? They obviously don't need them but they can keep them away from the humans... can we share the hint? (I didn't win it, but if the person who received the hint can't solve it, then we should be able to help...)


Edit b/c of the weird smiley that happens when you put : and 0 too close together XD


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christiangrltus


Posted: 11:54PM Dec 4, 2012

Enchanted: A tale of a princess who talks to pigeons and rats and makes them clean by the magic of song. She gets lost in New York City after a plot to become marries to the Prince, except there's another evil lady who's jealous of her. She proceeds to meet a guy and his daughter, (who saw her as a princess instantly) and marries him. They live happily ever after, after an epic hero scene, of course.

Sarcastic people with large vocabularies are my favorite.
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Luke400tus


Posted: 12:32AM Dec 5, 2012

My description for Enchanted: Um, I guess something proboably happened. Yeah, I really have no idea.
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 03:28AM Dec 5, 2012

That is ok if you do not know what happened.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 03:50AM Dec 5, 2012

No.. we lost our seer! But they were inactive anyway, so I suppose it's not a huge loss.

So roadmaster was a wolf? That's interesting...

That makes things interesting because some people were keen to defend them last round, even though it was clear they had deleted their account. Namely Blackest_Red. So I will be placing a vote for them.

To be honest, active wolves in this game doesn't really narrow the field. Pretty much everyone, bar a couple, have posted/voted so far. We need more stuff to go on. I'm going to have a go at this movie description to try and get a clue.

I will let you know if I find out anything.


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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fishstic


Posted: 04:00AM Dec 5, 2012

Engaged girl moves in with stranger, dumps fiance and shacks up with new guy for good.
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EliosAus


Posted: 08:27AM Dec 5, 2012

Fishstic, you must do these synopsis for a living. Too funny!

Skybet wrote:
That makes things interesting because some people were keen to defend [roadmsater] last round, even though it was clear they had deleted their account. Namely Blackest_Red. So I will be placing a vote for them.
Y'know, I was thinking much the same thing. I didn't vote for roadmsater because I was trying to delay the ending of the round - and I hope I made that clear. But some of the others seemed more like they just didn't want to join the majority, period. Could be that they were thinking along the same lines as I was, but probably not in every case. I'll reread last round for phrasing, see if someone sounds more "wolfy" than the others.

I have to wait 'til lunchtime to write my Enchanted summary.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 08:52AM Dec 5, 2012

Okay, wow, not really sure right now. I got the clue, and I'm going to go ahead and share it:

Look up.

That was all I got, so maybe Skybet or JJ, as he's right above me in the alphabetic listing. Voting for Sky right now, subject to change.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 08:58AM Dec 5, 2012

A fairytale princess, about to get married after knowing her prince for one day, gets pushed (by an evil witch) into a pool that takes her to the real world. She almost gets killed a few times, gets stuff stolen, but eventually an engaged man with his daughter find her and let her stay with them for a while. Her prince looks for her, along with a strangely brilliant chipmunk and a servant of the witch's, although he doesn't know that. In typical storybook fashion, the witch tries to kill the princess (I forgot her name) with three poisoned apples. She finally gets her to eat the last one, but apparently she and the normal guy have fallen in love, and he wakes her up. Then they have to fight the dragon that the witch turns into, and she dies. Him and her get married, and his daughter is really happy, and his old fiance, Nancy, marries the prince. And, of course, they all lived happily ever after, because this is a Disney movie. I think. Maybe not. The end.

"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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fishstic


Posted: 10:02AM Dec 5, 2012

Thanks for sharing kitty - I will vote Skybet as well.

I love cynical movie reviews. I was inspired by the Wizard of Oz one that made the rounds on Facebook a couple of weeks ago.
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Izzie*


Posted: 10:11AM Dec 5, 2012

Yuffie wrote:
. . . Blackest_Red is questionable: at 6pm, it said he hasn't logged on since "yesterday" but now at 12:20am, it still says "yesterday". Which normally would mean he logged on after 6pm but before midnight, however Bevy was at "3 days ago" at 6pm but it still is saying "3 days ago" now at 12:20am. Is there a delay in Eastern/Pacific time? I'm not saying he's definitely cleared but we'll have to see if it changes to "2 days ago" in a few hours to know for sure.
i think that the delay is 1 am eastern time


doing an spv until i have time to read all the posts


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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:34AM Dec 5, 2012

Izzie wrote:
Yuffie wrote:
. . . Blackest_Red is questionable...
i think that the delay is 1 am eastern time


Okay, I just checked at 11:26pm and Blackest_Red has not been on for 2 days. Bevy has not been on for 3.

Night did NOT time out - that means Blackest_Red and Bevy are NOT wolves. There's no reason to vote off inactives when we KNOW they're humans, that's just helping out the wolves.

I'll try to go back and re-read the rounds, but for now I'm leaning towards Skybet due to the clue "Look Up". It is possible it could be JJ, as Kitty said (alphabetically) but that would mean the clues were made for the winner directly. It could also be something more farfetched like "Look up = Koin_era was the first to post" or "Look Up = Elios is the Sun God (well, technically, our Elios is named after Pegasus in Sailormoon ) But, then we really could get the clue to match up to anyone...

I will most likely vote for Skybet at this point, but I'm holding off until I have time to read the round again (& write my Enchanted summary)


Edit b/c of those darn smileys! >.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 11:01AM Dec 5, 2012

That must be a clearing clue if its relating to me, but I can't really make much sense of it otherwise. Would the mod give such an obvious wolf clue in the second round having killed a wolf already in the first round? I don't think so... Also, I voted roadmsater last round who turned out to be a wolf. So I don't get it.

We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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Blackest_Red*


Posted: 11:16AM Dec 5, 2012

Sorry, once again real life got in the way of Braingle.
As was said earlier, night did not time out so I am not a wolf. I am going with Skybet who seems rather insistant that I am a wolf because I said that at one time my account stated "The Braingle user that you clicked on no longer exists." I think someone else said something similar happened to them too.
Anyway, he has been back on since the time he voted for me and has not changed it vote even thought through night NOT timing out I have been cleared.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:17AM Dec 5, 2012

Yeah I noticed that when I was reviewing the rounds. Unless Skybet voted with the obvious majority to save himself:

Skybet said:
lets trim the fat then start the game next round!


Kitty-Cat, all kmrutledge said was "look up"? She didn't say if it was a clearing clue or a wolf clue? I guess I assumed it was to find a wolf, but Skybet is right - we're only on round 2 and we already got one wolf. I would love for it to be that easy...

So, the options are that the clue is to clear someone, it really is that easy and Skybet is a wolf, Kitty-cat is a wolf and she's lying about the clue (which we'd find out in Round 3 when it came back that he's human) or the clue is pointing to someone else...

Look Up as an anagram: I've tried every which way & it doesn't form anyone's name (I was thinking Luke400 - we got Luk 00 but we're missing the "e" and "4" and we have an extra "p" :laugh

Look up Figuratively: Skybet, & if we're pulling at straws Elios and bookworm4god (Look Up = God)

Look Up literally: JJPutz is directly above Kitty-cat, but there are a lot of players above her. (If I were given that clue, it would literally be everyone in the game )

Look Up Alternate: Since Kitty-Cat won, let's look at everyone who posted right above her...:
ROUND 1: She was first to post & then she double posted (RFM); Elios; Izzie;Izzie;Elios;Yuffie.
ROUND 2: The winner had been pm'd before Kitty posted.
Unless the clue is to just narrow the suspects down (which I don't think it likely) this doesn't do anything...


So... assuming the clue has not been altered, it really only points to Skybet and JJPutz. The question is, is it clearing or condemning?
Reading through the posts, I'm kinda feeling JJ might be a wolf. I don't have anything solid to go off, so I'll hold off voting for now.

~*~ My Summary ~*~

Come join Giselle as she's sent away to a place with no Happily Ever Afters – New York! You'll laugh your tail off as Pip tries to explain the plot to the "Brawns not Brain" Prince Edward. Look out for the homages to Disney movies past and let your heart melt with Robert Phillip as he finds true love!
"Susan Sarandon is fantastic as Queen Narissa" – someone once said.
"That character Nathaniel had me rolling on the floor" – your dog.
Enchanted – proving fairy tales can come true, as long as your directly interacting with someone whose not from Earth!
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 11:32AM Dec 5, 2012

Blackest_Red wrote:
Sorry, once again real life got in the way of Braingle.
As was said earlier, night did not time out so I am not a wolf. I am going with Skybet who seems rather insistant that I am a wolf because I said that at one time my account stated "The Braingle user that you clicked on no longer exists." I think someone else said something similar happened to them too.
Anyway, he has been back on since the time he voted for me and has not changed it vote even thought through night NOT timing out I have been cleared.


I was by no means sure of you being a wolf at all, it only being the second round I have very little to go on, and I clearly stated my reasoning. Night did not time out and you haven't been on, so you are cleared, I will change my vote, I just wanted to dicuss the clue thoroughly before deciding who to change to. As it is, the clue is rather ambiguous and we don't know whether it is clearing or a wolf clue.

Yuffie there's loads of great ideas there but ultimately just leave me more confused. There seems no obvious answer, apart from myself (the sky is up), but isn't that a bit too easy? If it is that easy then it must be a clearing clue.


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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EliosAus


Posted: 11:41AM Dec 5, 2012

Skybet wrote:
Would the mod give such an obvious wolf clue in the second round having killed a wolf already in the first round?
I've only every modded 1 WWG before, so I'm no expert. But sometimes when you come up with a clue, you either think it's waay obvious (and it isn't) or super hard (which it's not). It's hard to get the perfect storm of clues: either way, one side or the other (Human/Wolf) will think it was unfair. Don't get me wrong, I love clues in WWG & WTB. It's just they're not easy to do sometimes.
I voted roadmsater last round who turned out to be a wolf. So I don't get it.
A classic wolf move: voting for another wolf to escape suspicion, especially when the other wolf is inactive and so unlikely to be angry with you. It's not proof of wolfiness, but it's not proof o humanity either.

I personally think the clue is kinda straight-forward and that it points to Skybet, and that's how I'll vote.

Fishstic, I like your style of synopsis. Mind if I carry on in the same spirit?

Enchanted: In the not so distant future, two alternate realities collide. Not even innocent bystanders in the fair city of New York are safe as magic invades and distorts reality, bringing with it the horrors of spontaneous musical numbers and sentient cockroaches. A bitter battle of love ensues and no one is spared; even a little child is caught up in the torrid affairs of her father. There's a lot more singing and some awkward emotional turmoil. In the end a beautiful dragon woman is unjustly slain; NY gets a magical maiden, Andalasia a Muggle; and insult to injury, that annoying chipmunk Pip gets a book deal. The End.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 12:06PM Dec 5, 2012

C'est la vis

We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 01:07PM Dec 5, 2012

Kmr didn't say if it was a clearing clue or a wolf clue. I just went with the obvious answer, but I don't think it'll be that easy.

Yuffie said:
So, the options are that the clue is to clear someone, it really is that easy and Skybet is a wolf, Kitty-cat is a wolf and she's lying about the clue (which we'd find out in Round 3 when it came back that he's human) or the clue is pointing to someone else...


I don't like your assumption that I'm a wolf just if he's human. I don't know if it's actually pointing to Skybet, it just seemed like that was the obvious answer. I'm not that great at deciphering clues, like you (apparently) are. I wasn't lying about the clue, it was sent to me and if somebody else had gotten it, don't you think the actual winner would have pointed that out by now?

I'll stick with my vote for now, but it could change if there's good evidence against it.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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YuffieAus


Posted: 01:46PM Dec 5, 2012

kitty-cat wrote:


I don't like your assumption that I'm a wolf just if he's human. I don't know if it's actually pointing to Skybet, it just seemed like that was the obvious answer. I'm not that great at deciphering clues, like you (apparently) are. I wasn't lying about the clue, it was sent to me and if somebody else had gotten it, don't you think the actual winner would have pointed that out by now?


Please don't misunderstand me - I am NOT saying you are a wolf if Skybet is human: I am not good at deciphering clues either, which is why I lay down ALL options out, to see if other players can use any of my thoughts to figure it out. The clue obviously points to Skybet. I was trying to see if there was any way it could point to someone else. You have to admit that it is an option out of a dozen options - it sounds more like a crock-conspiracy theory, but it is still a possibility and that's the only reason I listed it. I do honestly think you were sent the clue & I didn't mean for you to get so defensive; I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, it was unintended.


I kinda feel like there should be more to it than Up= Sky, but as Elios said, maybe it really is that straight forward. So, I'll go along with it and vote Skybet .


EDIT to note:

Why did Christiangirl vote for Bevy? The only thing she posted was her Enchanted summary. Bevy is cleared due to inactivity and there's no need to SPV since our Seer was eaten... Izzie and Koin_era are also doing an SPV; guess it's just habit at this point


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EliosAus


Posted: 02:33PM Dec 5, 2012

Just an assumption, but based on how most mods do this, I would think the Humans get a Wolf clue and the Wolves get a Seer clue (or now just block the Humans from getting one).

We won't know how KM does her clues until we experience them. This means we take our best guess, vote on it, and find out the outcome. There will be sacrifices made - I'm sorry Skybet - but that's how this game is played. It's a game of Trial and Error. Without clues, we'd shoot the people who made errors/slip-ups during their posts; we'd be wrong more often than right.

The good new is that after this we'll know how to approach the clues: if Skybet is a wolf, we don't discard obvious answers; if he's not, we know we have to work harder. We don't have any non-obvious targets (yet) so we might as well eliminate the obvious one, right?

Edit for pesky typos


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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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Izzie*


Posted: 02:52PM Dec 5, 2012

i think that i voted before it was announced that the seer was eaten and i have just been able to read all the posts
i dont see that is was or was not clarified if the clue was clearing someone or pointing to a wolf but i agree with elios
with that said i will change me vote to skybet


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YuffieAus


Posted: 03:21PM Dec 5, 2012

Izzie wrote:
i think that i voted before it was announced that the seer was eaten and i have just been able to read all the posts


Not a big deal, since you hadn't had time to read the posts, but technically the seer was announced 3 minutes before your first post & the clue was given out an hour before you posted that you were making an SPV. Again, you obviously did not have time to read the posts, but you can see where I found it strange, just going by the posts.

Elios Wrote:
There will be sacrifices made - I'm sorry Skybet - but ... We don't have any non-obvious targets (yet) so we might as well eliminate the obvious one, right?

Exactly what a wolf would say! *disclaimer: that was a joke* No, I totally agree. I'm sorry to Skybet if he is a human, but it really isn't looking that way - the only defense he has is "I'm human". That might be true, but I personally would try harder to convince the other players. At least we're only in Round 2. If the clue was clearing Skybet or it's more complicated than that, we'll know for sure. Voting anyone else at this point won't do us any good (unless we can figure out who the third wolf is).
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 03:40PM Dec 5, 2012

Completely forgot about the game.

I have a hunch about elios and JJ, and I dont want to end the round in case it turns outgo be a clearing clue and kmr gets on to tell us that.


Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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Blackest_Red*


Posted: 04:25PM Dec 5, 2012

JJ has been on today, just wondering why he has not come and posted and maybe changed his vote.
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christiangrltus


Posted: 05:22PM Dec 5, 2012

I'm remaining stationary until we get ... somewhere.

Sarcastic people with large vocabularies are my favorite.
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 05:56PM Dec 5, 2012

Yuffie wrote:
kitty-cat wrote:


I don't like your assumption that I'm a wolf just if he's human. I don't know if it's actually pointing to Skybet, it just seemed like that was the obvious answer. I'm not that great at deciphering clues, like you (apparently) are. I wasn't lying about the clue, it was sent to me and if somebody else had gotten it, don't you think the actual winner would have pointed that out by now?


Please don't misunderstand me - I am NOT saying you are a wolf if Skybet is human: I am not good at deciphering clues either, which is why I lay down ALL options out, to see if other players can use any of my thoughts to figure it out. The clue obviously points to Skybet. I was trying to see if there was any way it could point to someone else. You have to admit that it is an option out of a dozen options - it sounds more like a crock-conspiracy theory, but it is still a possibility and that's the only reason I listed it. I do honestly think you were sent the clue & I didn't mean for you to get so defensive; I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, it was unintended.


I didn't mean to come off as defensive. Thank you for apologizing, and it would be possible. I just wanted to point out in response to your previous comment that I didn't know if I was interpreting the clue the right way.

So, at this point we only have one lead, so Skybet will probably get shot this time.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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bookworm4godtus


Posted: 06:50PM Dec 5, 2012

Who said the seer died? Did I miss something?

If God is watching us, the least we can do is be entertaining.
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 06:59PM Dec 5, 2012

kmrutledge wrote:
sadface was the seer and roadmsater was a wolf.


Yup, you did.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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JJPutztus


Posted: 08:36PM Dec 5, 2012

Sorry~lunch recess ended right before I posted and the computers reset themselves. switching vote to make it more convinient - staying up till 10 vs staying up till 11. (assumingnight times out)

On a scale of 1-10, how old are you?
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Blackest_Red*


Posted: 08:36PM Dec 5, 2012

christiangrl wrote:
I'm remaining stationary until we get ... somewhere.
We have already recieved the clue. What else are we going to get?
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