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## The Werewolf Game #2838

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## Discussion of Round #5

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Oldcustard

 Posted: 10:28PM Dec 11, 2012

Okay, so you have shot 4 humans, the wolves have eaten 4 humans. All 3 wolves and the seer still live! (That 4 humans left, so after tonight if you don't catch a wolf you lose )

The Board Game of Death II
Each player has their own piece on the board.
The board looks like this:

Every round, a number from 1 - 6 will be randomly chosen for each player, and they will move that many squares.
Each square has certain properties.
If you land on:
+1 - you get 1 point that round.
+2 - you get 2 points that round.
+5 - you get 5 points that round.
-1 - you lose 1 point that round.
-2 - you lose 2 points that round.
-5 - you lose 5 points that round.
Bankrupt - you lose ALL your points.
Clear - if one player gets this, then everyone gets a public clearing clue.
Chance (?) - something happens...
Hospital - see below

The bridges:
A feature I have added to this new board game of death are the bridges. There are two bridges, the bridge of caution and the bridge of certain safety.

The bridge of caution:
On the turn a player crosses the bridge of caution, three things can happen.
There is a 3 in 6 chance the player will cross successfully.
There is a 2 in 6 chance the player will fall to their death. They lose 2 points and are moved to the hospital, reguardless of their roll.
There is a 1 in 6 chance the player will chicken out and not cross the bridge at all, they miss a turn.

Here are the moves:

buu441: -2(4), 3 points.
GreenApples27: +5(17), 6 points.
HarryPutter: +2(5), 8 points.
JQPublic: +1(20), 1 points.
Rhythmic: -1(2), 0 points.
SirHar: -1(2), 0 points.
The_spider: +1(1), 9 points.

The current board leader is HarryPutter

Rhythmic has purchased you a Hard Wolf Clue!

Catmandon's points have been transferred to The_Spider!

STORE

Will (1p): When you die, someone of your choice inherits your points. If that person dies, you have wasted your points. [unlimited]
Hard wolf clue (7p): Receive a public hard wolf clue. [1 left]
Easy wolf clue (9p): Receive a public easy wolf clue. [1 left]
Back (3p): Send another player back a certain amount of squares (chosen by you) from 1 - 4 [unlimited]
Pickpocket (7p): Every round, take 1 point from three players. [2 left]
One round immunity (9p): Get immunity from being eaten the coming night. [2 left]
Lottery (5p): Everyone pools 1 in one point, the winner gets the pool. [2 left]

CLUE:

080112121910151414051200

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 02:56:13---
buu441

 Posted: 10:50PM Dec 11, 2012

time for the seer to come out.

good job so far wolves. but now, you shall all die one by one

round 2: rhythmic is human
round 3: sirhar is human
round 4: greenapples is a wolf
round 5: harryputter is a wolf.

that leaves JQpublic and The_spider left undivined. I hope the rest of you guys can figure out who is who.

i am not sure why cat believes that spider is human and transferred their points to them.

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
The_Spider

 Posted: 11:04PM Dec 11, 2012

Sweet, ummm OC didnt I finish the board and get an ID? and dont we get a hard wolf clue. I guess it dont matter, gonna hold off on voting on the off chance this is a trick or something

Oh reread no ID, but if I got a good roll I could buy an EASY wolf clue next round

---This message was edited on 2012-12-11 23:33:02---

Let the games, begin!
SirHar

 Posted: 11:08PM Dec 11, 2012

nice work Buu....OC you are a schmuck...I dont care what anyone says.......
voting GA,...

the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
SirHar

 Posted: 11:10PM Dec 11, 2012

Ga Harry spider....good grief spider...that's all you could think of to post???

the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
The_Spider

 Posted: 11:11PM Dec 11, 2012

Well then your idiocy will cost the humans another game dumb#ss

doing the intelligent thing and WAITING since OC can give us additional infor

Rhytmic do not vote Green yet.

Lets take our time and see what wolf clue we get and what else we can buy Look, HP, Green if you are being setup then you would surely go with my vote on JohnQ. For the humans to win I will need to have JohnQ shot ahead of me, so you two..or at least Green should be happy to go along with a JohnQ vote

---This message was edited on 2012-12-11 23:20:24---

Let the games, begin!
The_Spider

 Posted: 11:24PM Dec 11, 2012

Since my only hope is Har coming to his senses , Rythmic I believe will at least listen to logic so this needs to be said as soon as possible

JohnQ played the classic "Persistent Defender" Card last round with his, "Im not sure why Catman is suspected all the sudden", when the suspcion was not AT ALL sudden considering he was a strong candidate for shooting the previous round. I thought it was funny when I read it but wasnt at the tope of my concern list at the time. Its definitly JohnQ, hopefully this wolf clue points it out, but at some point you'll need to listen to me or you'll still lose

Literally thats almost a text book wolf post when he wants to look good when a human is being shot

and finally I believe bu (I dont really think I would believe any other seer claim), but why didnt you vote Green last round? and why did you say something dangerous like your gut said Harry was a wolf in round 2 if you hadnt divined him?

---This message was edited on 2012-12-11 23:51:05---

Let the games, begin!
HarryPutter

 Posted: 12:06AM Dec 12, 2012

I had a feeling about GA I told you guys. Let's gettem!

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
The_Spider

 Posted: 12:11AM Dec 12, 2012

How does that post make sense??

Well I mean to maintain any illusion you are human

He wants to end the round rapidly, Im telling you do NOT rush to vote, its JohnQ and they are banking on getting me shot in the last round, thats why Harry wants to minimize discussion/potential clues

If JohnQ rushes in and votes you should be alerted. IF there is any dispute a wolf clue helps settle it, he(they) dont want that. Prolong the round

EDIT: Mot sure why i keep calling him JohnQ, but no biggie haha

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 00:17:49---

Let the games, begin!
HarryPutter

 Posted: 12:21AM Dec 12, 2012

A note to humans:

buu is false seer claiming to get an easy win. GA could be an innocent for a quick win, or just to bus his wolf partner. I think he's using me as the final shot for some poetic justice because I laughed at him. I didn't even see that he said he divined me as a wolf so now I know it must be false. It's truly despicable, but I have to give full props to buu for coming up with the strategy. I'll call it the Nimzo-Indian Wolf Attack Nice job convincing them, buu.

I always seem to be the target/victim of these false seer claims

I just hope the real seer will save me. Oh WW Gods please rain down mercy

Switching to buu to give time for the real seer to come out and because now it's clear he is a wolf.

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 00:24:21---

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
The_Spider

 Posted: 12:25AM Dec 12, 2012

Well JQ or Rythmic better have a doozy than. I believe buu and am not sure if he is cunning enough for the Nimzo Indian Wolf Attack

but his not voting Green last round has me wondering, mainly cause it preserves the chance that I havent been made a fool of all game

OC come on man the timing of these rounds is killing me update this thing please

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 00:29:01---

Let the games, begin!
buu441

 Posted: 01:05AM Dec 12, 2012

@spider: i couldnt get online later that round. during my last login, there was no chance of getting GA killed. and i wanted to give myself another divination if possible, to prevent the wolves from eating me sooner.

anyway, HarryPutter, nice try

@spider: well, that time (round 2), i just had a feeling that HP was a wolf. and said it out loud, without much thought of safety. came close to messing up at that time.

hope rhythmic comes on soon and gives his verdict as well.

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
HarryPutter

 Posted: 01:28AM Dec 12, 2012

You must have trained under Vishy

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
buu441

 Posted: 01:55AM Dec 12, 2012

@spider: easy wolf clue. go for it!!

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
GreenApples27

 Posted: 02:14AM Dec 12, 2012

OKAY I AM NOT A WEREWOLF, I AM THE SEER. CHANGING TO MY PHONE NOW WILL EDIT SOON

Round Two: chunnie is a Human!
Round Three: The_Spider is a Human!
Round Four: Camillee is a Human!
Round Five: Rhythmic is a Human!

This is the first time I'm genuinely worried that I will not convince the humans otherwise, but I am the real Seer, buu441 is playing you all! THE TWO OTHER WOLVES ARE OUT OF HARRY, JQPUBLIC AND SIRHAR. I am thinking definitely SirHar and JQPublic, as Harry is at least complying right now, but I worry he's voting buu for the moment then will switch...

Rhythmic is definitely human as both buu and I have "divined" him as a human, so we can all trust him!

I tried my very best to appear not Seer as by last round I only had 2 alive human divinations, and one of them was rather obviously human in my opinion (Camillee), and the other not under suspicion at all. I haven't been shot as anything apart from a wolf in over 60 games so if someone like buu is the result of my demise, I will actually throw a tantrum! Dan, buu441 didn't even hint at more, nor did he vote me to put me in any kind of potential majority! How is this the behavior of someone who has divined a werewolf?! This is a quick final round exit to try throw me in front of the bullet and give the three wolves an easy win, but do not be fooled!!!!!!

EDIT: Last round, buu441 said:
i. GA and camilee are both wolves or both humans. GA insists very strongly that camilee is human, so it makes me believe both are of the same species.

This makes no sense whatsoever if he had divined me as wolf?! He presented the option that I was a human. This contradicts him supposedly knowing I was wolf.

Also, me making sure I wasn't in a majority desperately last round was because I was the Seer and did not want to get shot at all. If I was wolf then I would have left myself in a three way tie to detract attention to myself from changing to cat who I didn't suspect much before.

How convenient is it that all four of buu's divinations are still alive? Sounds like a rookie Seer claim to me...

RHYTHMIC AND THE_SPIDER YOU NEED TO VOTE BUU441 THIS ROUND IN ORDER TO GIVE THE HUMANS A CHANCE OF WINNING

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 03:09:15---
GreenApples27

 Posted: 03:13AM Dec 12, 2012

Just posting this here to show that JQPublic has voted me without posting. This is definitely wolfish behavior which backs a buu/Har/JQ teaming.

DAN AND RHYTHMIC PLEASE VOTE FOR BUU AS HE IS A WOLF.
JQPublic

 Posted: 03:15AM Dec 12, 2012

Argh! I don't know whom to believe now. The way I see it, 'fake seer' is a trick only to be used in desperate situations. For wolves, this is far from desperate seeing that no wolves have been shot so far. At the same time, I understand GA's arguments that buu lying and was just trying to make sure the wolves won. However, with GA's exclamation marks, boldface, capital letters and other methods of emphasis, he seems to be feigning, so I'm going with GA for now.

As for The_Spider's accusations, I'm gonna have to defend myself since I know I'm human, but that will have to wait till I've finished my homework.

Edit: @GA: I voted but then needed the toilet, man ...

Edit edit: Hang on a sec ... You were just saying a couple minutes ago that The_Spider and I should vote for buu this round, then Rhythmic next round, and that Rhythmic was a wolf. Now you've changed and are saying that Rhythmic is human, and that Spider and Rhythmic should vote for buu. Nice try, GA, but you're definitely the wolf here.

(although gets me thinking ... could it be that BOTH buu and GA are wolves trying to confuse us? My head is exploding right now.)

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 03:20:08---

'An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.' - Charles Dickens
GreenApples27

 Posted: 03:18AM Dec 12, 2012

My exclamations and bold marks are to get my point across, not to feign.
But you're a wolf anyway so I don't need to prove anything to you.
HarryPutter

 Posted: 03:18AM Dec 12, 2012

crap...really doesn't help if you're the seer

Since this is a must lynch I guess it's gg I'm assuming the 3 people don't want the wolf clue solved so we could disprove buu

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 03:19:34---

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
JQPublic

 Posted: 03:23AM Dec 12, 2012

GreenApples27 wrote:
My exclamations and bold marks are to get my point across, not to feign.
But you're a wolf anyway so I don't need to prove anything to you.

Now try explaining why you changed your divinations, GA. I'm most certainly 'devine'ing that you're not the 'devin'. ('Devine' is French for 'guess' and 'devin' is French for 'seer')

Edit: Another thing: how can you be so sure I'm a wolf when you haven't divined me?

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 03:25:55---

'An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.' - Charles Dickens
GreenApples27

 Posted: 03:27AM Dec 12, 2012

JQ HOW DID YOU SEE THAT CHANGE?!?!?!

Whatever, I am toast. What better way to end it than suicidal style? Sorry Harry.
Oldcustard

 Posted: 04:20AM Dec 12, 2012

After much arguing, deception, and controversy you pushed GreenApples27 off the board... (although he kinda threw himself off as well)

He was A WOLF!!!

---This message was edited on 2012-12-12 04:42:09---

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