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The Werewolf Game #2863

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #3

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:49PM Jan 13, 2013

Rfm

Thank you koin

Evi was human, the Seer lives on, as does the lone wolf...


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:52PM Jan 13, 2013

Well atleast the wolves made a decent eating choice this time


let me think for a minute

celtichero - Fairly persistent in Cab vote Round 1, not one of my suspects atm
debc1 - Not sure, feel nothing either way
HABS2933 - Not sure, passed on a potential swing vote at end of round 1
HarryPutter - Almost certainly cleared
Jayo - Got on JJ pretty quick in Round 1 so low on my list
ka-ching - No real reason to think she's cleared, but based on my talking with her think she's human
koin_era345 - kind of have mixed thoughts, thought JJ being wolf was a strecth in the night TB, but once pressure was on he voted him quickly, a sign he's human, or a sign he knew he better get on board early
Longhorn_fan - Almost certainly human in my book
Oldcustard - Not sure hasnt said anything, though JJ has voted him a few times....a possibility
Skybet - NOt sure, will have to review
The_Spider- I know Im human, but I should be sure lock by this point anyway

so on the way I see it, Id like to shoot out of

Deb
HABS
Koin
OC
Sky


will entertain thoughts on some of the others but not all of them, not in a clean Round 3


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:52PM Jan 13, 2013

Evita... makes sense.

Spv while I think about where to go from here.

Edit: That was almost the exact same post, just different wording


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celticherotus


Posted: 07:54PM Jan 13, 2013

I'll throw out an SPV.

I'm just an ordinary average guy with nothing to lose.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:57PM Jan 13, 2013

Glad for the quick night but at a loss as to who to vote for right now. Will SPV until something more promising comes up.

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:14PM Jan 13, 2013

Im thinking maybe you guys are right about Deb, why would JJ say Deb of all people if it was wrong, haha I don't know, but my list is very short for suspects.

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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 08:15PM Jan 13, 2013

I am going to vote OC.....I am not used to playing with them but the one-liners espically in such a vocal game is intriguing.

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Oldcustardtau


Posted: 08:26PM Jan 13, 2013

Haha I was really tired when I did the RFM/SPV so I really didn't want to say a lot, sorry for not being very helpful

I'm just going to to throw an SPV for now.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:31PM Jan 13, 2013

Wait a minute, when did Deb vote JJ in Round 1, it looks like she was the 2nd vote (joining Evi).....im not sure when she switched to Putter...could be pretty relevant, but kind of puts Deb out of the #1 shot spot for me ( she has enough of my #1 spots as is )

might be leaning HABS for three reasons

A) The 'pass' at the end of Round 1 (the same tactic JJ pulled) facing a wolf in a tie she sort of balked at doing anything.

B) Chunnie eating...this seemed pointless but could have been just a tactical blunder. Maybe it was someone in the last game who knew how much chunnie contributed, and simply miscalculated, thinking a dead Chunnie is not as strong as a living chunnie.

C) The 'i hope this isnt a long night' in the TB. Sort of a WTB tactic where the boss comlains about the down time. I just recall one of HABS games where the final round was just a complete breakdown of login time and nothing else so maybe felt the need to hrow some login red herring out there in the TB.

Just my thoughts, leaning HABS for now, but will now settle down and await the cavalry

then again JJ and HABS were quite chatty to start round 1


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:47PM Jan 13, 2013

As I just stated in the TB, I am so obvious when I am a wolf, it can't be me. AS to the end of round 1, I was hardly on, when I wasn't in bed, I was in the washroom I could barely move. So my not being around had nothing to do with being a wolf. And when did I discuss log-in in he TB?

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JayoAie


Posted: 08:50PM Jan 13, 2013

Sorry again about missing the last round guys, first time in over 6 years that I'm working on a Sunday
(unpaid overtime, really really really sucks)

JJ's shot about Deb was either an attempt to buy a round for the wolf, or a double bluff, though would be too risky with just one left.
Seer should have divined Deb maybe?

I would have if I was the Seer (and had logged a vote last round ) so maybe Deb is cleared if the Ser was on the same wavelength as me.

Almost 3am here, still finishing my analysis for work...and my working week starts in 6 hours

Voting Skybet for now, just a slight hunch


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:54PM Jan 13, 2013

Yeah Im thinking its not you anymore HABS, way too much chatter from JJ, AND he joined YOUR vote for OC, which is a weak move for wolves to vote together...though I woudlnt put it past JJ...that is leading my to Skybet but really not sure can someone correct my analysis, Deb DID put JJ in a Rd1 majority? (albiet early on?)

and JJ said this after the round was over in chat, cant blame the seer for not having a time machine


hwever: you DID post towards the end of the round, so you were on to some extent, and I meant you asked the wolf to make it a quick night or something similar, a tactic the boss often does in WTB...then again could be nothing at all, the other Login stuff was from a previous wwg where you were a wolf and the final round was nothing but login breakdown


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:04PM Jan 13, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
the other Login stuff was from a previous wwg where you were a wolf and the final round was nothing but login breakdown


Yeah like I said, it is obvious when I am a wolf. And I asked for it to be a quick night as I am impatient and hate to wait for anything (look at the last WWG I moderated - there were severe consequences for allowing night to time out).

I am thinking Sky or Deb as well, but not sure which stikes me as more likely.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:10PM Jan 13, 2013

This is hard.

Lets see... Final thoughts are HABS and deb. Not feeling OC and sky seems a little too active.

HABS: That post didnt really make sense to me. You're obvious as a wolf, so it can't be you? You're among maybe four possibilities in round 3. You not being on at the end of round 1 actually helps my point. JJ could have decided to eat chunnie without your input. The voting seems to add up, and the "I don't understand this majority" is a classic wolf move.

Deb: This is more of a question of whether JJ would a) rat you out, or b) do enough looking to know you would be a suspect. And I don't know, so if this
Deb DID put JJ in a Rd1 majority? (albiet early on?)
is true I am thinking definitely HABS.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:06PM Jan 13, 2013

I am leaning more towards Sky than Deb. Though both seem like possibilities to me, I am having a hard time wrapping my head around JJ selling Deb out. Though I wouldn't put it past him if it were between him and another wolf or if there were still two wolves left in the game I just can't understand him giving up the final wolf and losing the game. Voting Sky.

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:17PM Jan 13, 2013

What happened to your other suspects then?

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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:22PM Jan 13, 2013

Deb was on my list of suspects. And others made a valid pont about my theory. Reading back through the rounds and TB posts, Sky seems plausible.

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:25PM Jan 13, 2013

Im aware of that, but part of what makes the game easier for your 'potential' teamates, is to clearly and concisely (which I need to work on usually haha) explain why you are making your decisions. With 4 suspects listed in the TB, Sky NOT being one of them, I would have liked to see why you voted him, especially seeing how it could be seen that you are attempting to start a runaway on him before maybe you come under fire?

The post I responded to was heavily edited, not pointing it out to make it seem suspicous, just to address any 'disjoints' in the flow of the discussion


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:28PM Jan 13, 2013

I edited my post after checking the post you are referring to. It seems I am already under fire by some players. I am fine with that. I will of course try to defend myself but seems in WWG if you try too hard, it makes you even more suspicious.

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celticherotus


Posted: 10:30PM Jan 13, 2013

Habs is definitely being suspicious, but I still consider her to be at least IMO, a lesser suspect than Deb for now. JJ is a goon. No idea what he could ever try to pull.

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ka-ching


Posted: 10:30PM Jan 13, 2013

I'm here out of obligation. I just want to go to bed.

HABS vote looks the surest on that list. I will bandwagon for the moment. If the round's still alive when I wake up, more quality contribution may be had.

But no promises.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:34PM Jan 13, 2013

How is it bandwagoning when you are thus far the only one voting for me?

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:35PM Jan 13, 2013

Well im gonna move off Skybet for now, want to be sure im set....need to get this Sweep right

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ka-ching


Posted: 10:36PM Jan 13, 2013

Bandwagon in that I'm not the one producing a valid argument. Dan was the one who inspired me, but I didn't do any thinking for myself. (I mean I did, but I didn't?) I actually kinda forgot I used the word "bandwagon" haha. I can't post at night anymore. it makes problems.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:44PM Jan 13, 2013

Well, hubby just walked in the door after having been away on business for the last 4 days. He is going away again on Wed, so I am off to spend a little time with him. Be back in the mid-morning after he leaves for work.

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 10:45PM Jan 13, 2013

ka-ching wrote:
Bandwagon in that I'm not the one producing a valid argument. Dan was the one who inspired me, but I didn't do any thinking for myself. (I mean I did, but I didn't?) I actually kinda forgot I used the word "bandwagon" haha. I can't post at night anymore. it makes problems.


I know what you mean.

Habs seems to be relying on bad excuses to get out of being shot.
. I will of course try to defend myself but seems in WWG if you try too hard, it makes you even more suspicious.

Also something about this sentence seems (for lack of a better word) off. I'll put in a vote for Habs to tie it up with sky.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:51PM Jan 13, 2013

Now we're just reading into every little thing to try to 'rally' ourselves that we are getting it right. Im fine with a 2-2 tie for the night, interested to hear what Sky's thoughts are...as well as the rest of yous

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celticherotus


Posted: 10:57PM Jan 13, 2013

I'm done for the night, too. Keeping vote on Deb.

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Skybet*gb


Posted: 01:51AM Jan 14, 2013

Hmmm I seem to have come online and become public enemy number one! Lets examine this, your reason for voting me is because I'm not cleared and some of you have a hunch... Apart from this super weak reasoning, I implore you to not follow your gut on this one, because it's wrong, pure and simple. I am not a wolf. Alas, this will not assure you, but if you choose to shoot me I will help the humans win thereafter.

So why are we not pursuing the deb lead? She is being very quiet... However, my vote is going to go for ching. So very very defensive 1st round when she received just ONE vote, then refusing to join majorities (on wolves) in both rounds. Also this round just jumping on my vote without question, because I think she knows I'm human.

Somehow I knew joining the JJ vote would put me in the firing line, but I assure you, I'm jyst a regular, good 'ol fashioned wolf hunter.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 02:28AM Jan 14, 2013

In addition to this, I have a small shard of evidence of my humanity. Cast your eyes back to round one, I placed my original SPV for HABS and subsequently, a small majority formed on her. I stated that I moved my vote from HABS to another player, as I dislike in engaging in 1st round majorities. This is true. However, if I am a wolf (the last wolf) then HABS is certainly human. If I had found HABS was in a majority, knowing she is human, I would have just not said anything and left my vote where it was. Also in round one, I did not join any majorities at all. I could have joined in on the LH vote for example, but I didn't. This would have been only too easy. And last round, as soon as I heard your reason for voting JJ, I was all for it, it sounded like a good and valid reason for why cab acted the way she did round one. So I joined. A fatal mistake perhaps.

Anyway, take from this what you will. I know I'm falling foul of my own mantra "the lady doth protest too much, methinks", but still, you're all making a mistake (apart from the last wolf).


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 02:53AM Jan 14, 2013

Deb is still the top shot for me ;o If JJ wanted to mess with us, he wouldn't say someone who fits the profile so perfectly.


I'll think more about it


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 05:07AM Jan 14, 2013

Skybet wrote:
Hmmm I seem to have come online and become public enemy number one! Lets examine this, your reason for voting me is because I'm not cleared and some of you have a hunch... Apart from this super weak reasoning, I implore you to not follow your gut on this one, because it's wrong, pure and simple. I am not a wolf. Alas, this will not assure you, but if you choose to shoot me I will help the humans win thereafter.

So why are we not pursuing the deb lead? She is being very quiet... However, my vote is going to go for ching. So very very defensive 1st round when she received just ONE vote, then refusing to join majorities (on wolves) in both rounds. Also this round just jumping on my vote without question, because I think she knows I'm human.

Somehow I knew joining the JJ vote would put me in the firing line, but I assure you, I'm jyst a regular, good 'ol fashioned wolf hunter.


How is it super weak reasoning, most people are cleared, you're not, there is nothing at all even remotely weak about it As it is, a Deb vote means two things. Deb, a not very aggressive player (though perhaps in the spirit of Anarchy changed) put JJ in an early majority, and JJ threw the game away deliberatly. If it matters Smithy was in chat at the time too, I feel a player would be less inclined to act like a complete $#$# when there is someone there who knows immeadeatly how much of a $#$@# he is being.

Also anyone who is using a non-vote for JJ last round is clutching at straws. Ching recognized the importance of seer protection, you didnt, and any wolf at all would have jumped on JJ at that point, so thats not even a remotely persuasive angle to go after Ching from.

Iunno could be Deb, but we should pursue a clean majority so the seer can make a safe divination tonight


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 05:37AM Jan 14, 2013

I don't see how seer protection has much to do with this matter, especially regarding how people have voted.

Noone in my eyes is 100% cleared, less likely, sure, but not definitely.

It is weak reasoning, what concrete do you have? On the reasoning you have listed, you would describe that as moderate or strong for the case of me being a wolf? I think not


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 05:41AM Jan 14, 2013

Deb changed her vote at the end of the round, so if you want to use the JJ voting as evidence of her being clear it's pretty weak. According to her, the vote was picked completely at random (Her eyes closed)

We could shoot someone else and just let the seer divine deb, but


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:05AM Jan 14, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
Now we're just reading into every little thing to try to 'rally' ourselves that we are getting it right.


I'd expect as much, that is not unusual. Expert player Koin has decided I'm a wolf and nothing will shake him of that belief. I've been there - just cost me a game of WTB too. Oh an Koin, my decision to get offline last night (about midnight) to spend time with my husband must seem like a wolfy excuse to you too right? Why would a human want to get offline to spend time with someone I hadn't seen in a week? I must be a wolf!


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 06:07AM Jan 14, 2013

celtichero voted for debc1
HABS2933 voted for Skybet
HarryPutter voted for debc1
Jayo voted for Skybet
ka-ching voted for HABS2933
koin_era345 voted for HABS2933

Longhorn_fan voted for Oldcustard
Skybet voted for ka-ching
The_Spider voted for Longhorn_fan


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:14AM Jan 14, 2013

koin_era345 wrote:

Habs seems to be relying on bad excuses to get out of b
. I will of course try to defend myself but seems in WWG if you try too hard, it makes you even more suspicious.

Also something about this sentence seems (for lack of a better word) off. I'll put in a vote for Habs to tie it up with sky.


How is that "off"- it is the truth in this game a lot of the time. Just stating a fact. IT seems at least to me (and I've said as much in other games) that this is true.



The_Spider wrote:

Now we're just reading into every little thing to try to 'rally' ourselves that we are getting it right.
..

I'd expect as much, that is not unusual. Expert player Koin has decided I'm a wolf and nothing will shake him of that belief. We've all been there - that thinking just cost me a game of WTB too. Oh an Koin, my decision to get offline last night (about midnight) to spend time with my husband must seem like a wolfy excuse to you too right?


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 07:09AM Jan 14, 2013

JJ has the tendency to be truthful when he's pressed and emotional he admitted to being a wolf at the end of last round, so I think what he said in chat might be the truth

Habs seems human to me. I recommend you join the deb vote habs.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 07:12AM Jan 14, 2013

HarryPutter wrote:
JJ has the tendency to be truthful when he's pressed and emotional he admitted to being a wolf at the end of last round, so I think what he said in chat might be the truth

Habs seems human to me. I recommend you join the deb vote habs.


Might as well give it a try.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:40AM Jan 14, 2013

How would seer protection not matter? You dont end a round early, the only reason Ching didnt vote JJ was to not end the round early, so yes SPV had PLENTY to do with it There's like 4 gooud suspects left, the fact that we can probly shoot them all and win the game regardless is strong enough reason in my book, especially when one player (HABS) would already have the knowledge that she is not a suspect.

When does JJ 'have the tendency to be truthful when he's pressed and emotional' ?
I mean I'm not neccessarily doubting you, but I don't know exactly how often you have played with JJ, and plenty of people give up their IDs at the end of a round as a 'favor' to the players.

I dont know, probly be gone most of the day. I dont really think Deb voting JJ is weak at all, why start a majority so early on a wolf if you dont have to, and its not like Deb is some cutthroat wolf or had the forsight to predict JJ was probly going to be shot in our group and jumped on the bandwagon really early. AS for the random bit, well theres no reason to think as a wolf she wouldnt just move her vote off if she really did close her eyes

Like I said, HABS sounds better to me now, Deb or Sky I guess are decent shots, Ill see where we are at later and go from there


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 07:49AM Jan 14, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
How would seer protection not matter? You dont end a round early, the only reason Ching didnt vote JJ was to not end the round early, so yes SPV had PLENTY to do with it


It doesn't as my vote did not create an overall majority or end the round early, I made sure of this before I posted. I didn't have another chance to come on before the end of the round and I wanted to vote JJ. So I reiterate, that had nothing to do with it.


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ka-ching


Posted: 07:55AM Jan 14, 2013

I'd be open enough to voting for deb, although I find her a little bit more clatteringly noisy when she's a wolf than quiet. But the objective reasoning seems to follow through. For now, I'll stick where I'm at in case we draw alternate conclusions, but from the direction of discussion at the moment, my gut says we're going to end up voting for deb.
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 07:58AM Jan 14, 2013

The_Spider wrote:


When does JJ 'have the tendency to be truthful when he's pressed and emotional' ?
I mean I'm not neccessarily doubting you, but I don't know exactly how often you have played with JJ, and plenty of people give up their IDs at the end of a round as a 'favor' to the players.

I dont know, probly be gone most of the day. I dont really think Deb voting JJ is weak at all, why start a majority so early on a wolf if you dont have to, and its not like Deb is some cutthroat wolf or had the forsight to predict JJ was probly going to be shot in our group and jumped on the bandwagon really early. AS for the random bit, well theres no reason to think as a wolf she wouldnt just move her vote off if she really did close her eyes

Like I said, HABS sounds better to me now, Deb or Sky I guess are decent shots, Ill see where we are at later and go from there


I remember him giving someone up (or himself) in a WTB or WWG before, can't remember when But it seems very much like him.

She mightve just voted completely at random, and she later removed her vote when she realized the mistake she made. Or at least she thought the majority wouldn't catch on, so she switched out of it later on when it did. Why switch out of it for no apparent reason unless you don't want that person to die? She could've looked in the TB to see Cab/JJ upset with her


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ka-ching


Posted: 08:00AM Jan 14, 2013

Why switch out of it for no apparent reason

To be random and wild.


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 08:01AM Jan 14, 2013



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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:34AM Jan 14, 2013

HarryPutter wrote:
JJ has the tendency to be truthful when he's pressed and emotional

That is true, when he feels he is in a corner he does. And I have seen him sacrifice other wolves to save himself, but never for no reason. But if he truly felt they could not win, he may. IT is hard for a single wolf to pull off a win against a full roster of humans.

seems human to me.

AT least someone sees it. Look at any game I'm a wolf,, I am an aggressive wolf, not at all wishy-washy like I am here.
I recommend you join the deb vote habs.

Worth a stab, and since I am certain I am not a wolf, and there is at least a possibility Deb is. I'll join.


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 08:47AM Jan 14, 2013

No one should end the round before OC votes

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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 08:53AM Jan 14, 2013

Oldcustard wrote:
Haha I was really tired when I did the RFM/SPV so I really didn't want to say a lot, sorry for not being very helpful

I'm just going to to throw an SPV for now.


This is why I am suspicious of OC............He stated yesterday evening at 8:26pm Central time that he was going to be placing a SPV but yet......


HarryPutter wrote:
No one should end the round before OC votes


THIS?????

Interesting to me....ALSO OC wrote that above post just 11 minutes after I stated his lack of activity and imput was suspicious to me. He has yet to post anything after that. He is also inactive in the TB, but yet so is Deb.

JJ's chat post about deb, as odd as JJ is.....IDK. Why would he throw her under the bus when she had no suspicion on her at the time. It seems more like sending us on a wild goose chase more than anything.

Edited for time placements


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 09:14AM Jan 14, 2013

Deb and OC have not voted at this point in time with 10+ hours left in the round. Just an FYI on voting status.

As of 9:15 Central time
Day
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.

celtichero voted for debc1
HABS2933 voted for debc1
HarryPutter voted for debc1
Jayo voted for Skybet
ka-ching voted for HABS2933
koin_era345 voted for HABS2933
Longhorn_fan voted for Oldcustard
Skybet voted for debc1
The_Spider voted for Longhorn_fan


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 11:39AM Jan 14, 2013

OC could you try to be something other than a tremendous liability this game? thanks

as to Skybet, you suspected Ching for 'refusing to vote JJ' when in actuality she just didnt want to risk ending the round, ie. an SPV


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 12:11PM Jan 14, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
OC could you try to be something other than a tremendous liability this game? thanks

as to Skybet, you suspected Ching for 'refusing to vote JJ' when in actuality she just didnt want to risk ending the round, ie. an SPV


That reason was combined with others if you read back.

EDIT: The reasoning was pretty weak, but there were a few reasons there, but at least I can admit the reasoning was weak. It is round 3 and have very little evidence thus far, and can't really be 100% sure of anything.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 12:17PM Jan 14, 2013

Unless playing a bold 'bluff' any wolf, save an inactive one, would have jumped on the JJ vote. Im surprised how many people needed to reference my idea to vote JJ, to me the Cab/JJ connection was clear as day.

Chings outburst was a little over the top, but as Ive said in the TB, this 'defensiveness cliche' has to go. Gone till later, leaving vote on Skybet for now


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 12:30PM Jan 14, 2013

Well if you consider that clear as day, look back again and you will see I had voted Evi first and cab etc joined and Evi was in a majority tied with JJ, and I switched away from Evi to a player that didn't have any votes at all (deb) and took Evi off a majority to save her. If you consider the link between cab/JJ clear as day then how does my link fit into this? I have had nothing to do with JJ or cab this whole game. If you're using that reasoning it should be the same in reverse.

You are clearing people such as LH for voting for themselves and giving up... That makes them 100% not a wolf?


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 01:29PM Jan 14, 2013

Skybet wrote:

You are clearing people such as LH for voting for themselves and giving up... That makes them 100% not a wolf?


LOL.....I voted Cab.
If you notice my vote for myself was a reactionary one, and I am not the first one to ever do it nor will I be the last.
Me being cleared has more to do with the fact that I have voted for wolves in both rounds.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 01:57PM Jan 14, 2013

You voted for cab near the end of the round to save yourself.

Caberet wrote:
Longhorn switched her vote from Habs to me. I didn't see where she explained why. Tho perhaps the reason is somewhat obvious.


She seemed quite bemused at the time as to why you were voting her. Perhaps because you were a fellow wolf?

Second round, you actually defended JJ when he already had 5 votes on him.


Longhorn_fan wrote:
Wait....I just thought of something. Why, if JJ is a wolf, would he not vote to shoot me end of last round to avoid the tie and save Cab? I know the possibility exists that if he had done that it would make him look suspicious but he could have argued his way out of it with a LH was more suspicious because..........blah blah....

Thoughts???


Then you jumped on an overwhelming majority on him and became the sixth and final player to vote for him. That's not so convincing when you look at it that way. Could be a great ploy to make people believe you are cleared.


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 02:23PM Jan 14, 2013

We're all going to have a good laugh about this when the game ends after deb is shot.

*takes a puff from his pipe and sits back*


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 02:33PM Jan 14, 2013

Skybet wrote:
You voted for cab near the end of the round to save yourself.

Caberet wrote:
Longhorn switched her vote from Habs to me. I didn't see where she explained why. Tho perhaps the reason is somewhat obvious.


She seemed quite bemused at the time as to why you were voting her. Perhaps because you were a fellow wolf?

Second round, you actually defended JJ when he already had 5 votes on him.


Longhorn_fan wrote:
Wait....I just thought of something. Why, if JJ is a wolf, would he not vote to shoot me end of last round to avoid the tie and save Cab? I know the possibility exists that if he had done that it would make him look suspicious but he could have argued his way out of it with a LH was more suspicious because..........blah blah....

Thoughts???


Then you jumped on an overwhelming majority on him and became the sixth and final player to vote for him. That's not so convincing when you look at it that way. Could be a great ploy to make people believe you are cleared.



No I did not....I was the 5th person to vote JJ. I posted that thought after I voted him. It was just a thought not a defense.
You are seriously reaching at straws here and you are not even in jeopardy of being shot. ?????? Really?

EDIT: JJ was the last person to vote JJ after he posted his "I give up I am a wolf" post.

LOL get your facts straight before you start posting gibberish


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 02:47PM Jan 14, 2013

Longhorn is about as cleared as you can get. Not only because she voted for both wolves, but because BOTH wolves tried to shoot her to save themselves. Additionally, when JJ saw a Cab/Longhorn tie, it would have been asinine not to jump on one or the other (but there is the perpetual JJPutz factor to consider) Finally, no wolf would EVER tried to save the OBVIOUSLY doomed JJ under ANY circumstances.

If LHF is still standing in round 7 we can reopen the case, but until then, she's off the table


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 03:08PM Jan 14, 2013

Id think if Deb was a wolf...shed at least..be aware that Round 3 was happening? am I being fair there?

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Oldcustardtau


Posted: 03:12PM Jan 14, 2013

Sorry about not voting

Next round I'll try to be more active. I have my new laptop now so I can stop posting from my phone.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 03:18PM Jan 14, 2013

here goes nothing

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Smithy*en


Posted: 03:23PM Jan 14, 2013

Well, the mere continuation of this game should inform you that JJ masterfully took you all for a ride. But I can confirm at least that Deb was not the Seer, just a regular joe.

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