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The Werewolf Game #2872

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 9 rounds.

Discussion of Round #5

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JJPutztus


Posted: 08:41PM Feb 13, 2013

RFM
Snowmonster was a Werewolf. Werdna was a human in the Seer Talk Box, but not the Seer.

The Seer discovered an Oracle.

Story
Early in the morning, JQPublic became the object of much speculation. He seemed to have a lot of accusors as well as defenders. The passengers talked a lot about what had happened the previous days. After eating dinner, Werdna suddenly stood up and announced he had discovered two WOLFS on his own. He explained that he had been using a device called a SEER that was more refined than the Silver B. He then showed the others a small device that fit in the palm of his hand. The passengers grabbed Snowmonster and Rhythmic led them to the Silver B. Stragely enough, as this was happening, Snowmonster decided it was a good time to sing a song. "La la la la . . . la la la la . . . . hey hey hey . . . . . gooooooooooooooooood byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy . ."

That night, sleep came easier. In the morning, Rhythmic immediately went to check the readings from the Silver B. They confirmed that Snowmonster was a WOLF. On his way to breakfast, he checked to see if Werna was still there. He was gone, taken by the other WOLFS. However, when he inspected the cabin, he saw the device Werna showed everyone the day before. It was nothing but a hollow ball of plastic. Wondering what to make of things, Rhythmic met the others and shared with them the good news he had.


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JJPutztus


Posted: 08:42PM Feb 13, 2013

Werdna's eating was no suprise, and I shall vote scrub as Werdna said to.

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Blackest_Red*


Posted: 08:52PM Feb 13, 2013

I agree and will do the same.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:56PM Feb 13, 2013

Lets wait for confirmation that Werdna was seer, he could easily have been divined human and lied about Catman divination. Our seer could still be with us, so lets wait for Rythmic to confirm or deny it


Think BlackRed is good bet for wolf 3, I was waiting for Day 4 to end and despite being on BlackRed didnt cast a vote for Snow, I think he wanted to make a point about having his Scrub vote up...other things are irking me to

Again, think Snow played the persistent defender tactic on JQ. If someone asked me to explain what persistent defender is I would point directly to Snow's post last round.

SPV.....hopefully


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JQPublic


Posted: 08:58PM Feb 13, 2013

Yeah, Spider, that's what I was saying last round (about Werdna not being the seer). Either way, Werdna was telling the truth, so I'll be voting for scrub.

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:59PM Feb 13, 2013

DO NOT VOTE SCRUB AND SHORT CHANGE A POSSIBLY LIVING SEER

anyone who puts 6th or 7th, maybe even 5th vote on Scrub before we hear from Rythmic about whether we have our seer should be shot out of hand, and if the seer is still alive we need full seer coverage as usual


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JQPublic


Posted: 09:16PM Feb 13, 2013

I don't really get it, Spider. We know scrub is a wolf. How would voting to shoot him affect the seer? It's only a temporary vote anyhow.

edit: Oh, wait, I get it, majority prevention. OK, will change.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:17PM Feb 13, 2013

It aint temporary if 7 people who arnt the seer vote him. There is no need to run the risk, just wait for Rythmic

yeah haha

(Im also noting a little SPV round table between Snow/Scrub/Buu in previous rounds, but we'll get to wolf 3 when we get there )


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JJPutztus


Posted: 09:56PM Feb 13, 2013

but still, scrub's definitely a wolf. even if he lied about the divination...oh. wait...good point spider. I will leave my vote there for now though.

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scrub88it


Posted: 10:06PM Feb 13, 2013

I think we should vote PYTHON this round and finally help him get his wish! Who's with me? After all, he has been consistent in his request to kill him.
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 10:08PM Feb 13, 2013

Will throw a vote out for Seer coverage!
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:10PM Feb 13, 2013

A coward dies 1000 times before his death

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scrub88it


Posted: 10:15PM Feb 13, 2013

Figures you wouldn't have compassion, Spider. Let'srally and give Python his wish!
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 10:16PM Feb 13, 2013

PYTHON has not been around for the game since round 3....just a note there.

I will place a vote till Ryth shows up.
Hopefully round will still be day when I wake in morning but if not then so be it.


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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 10:18PM Feb 13, 2013

Have a suspicion on Blackest_Red at the moment for a third wolf.

PYTHON, The_Spider and Yuffie are all human.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:20PM Feb 13, 2013

"The gap between compassion and surrender is love's darkest, deepest region."

On another note, Scrub had already commited to sacking JQ in Rd 4, Snow would have seen the writing on the wall and jumped on board. So Snowy would not be genuinely trying to save a wolf her partner abandoned. Wolf TBs are overated to, Ive never hatched or seen a brillaint plan hatched in any I was in, though they DO help seer hunts


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Izzie*


Posted: 10:45PM Feb 13, 2013

waiting for confirmation, but placing an spv for now

˙ǝızzı(p) ¿y ahora? the new refrigerator came. If you need me, i will be playing in the box.
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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:46PM Feb 13, 2013

okay. following the above advice and voted blackest.
will wait for identities before changing vote.

and about last round, i couldn't change my vote back as there was a power cut straight after my post. sorry.


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scrub88it


Posted: 11:52PM Feb 13, 2013

JQPublic wrote:
We know scrub is a wolf.


Why? Because I said so? Not good enough because wolves lie. If that's the case, then how can we believe werdna in the first place? Oh yea, humans tell the truth. So I am not a wolf because I say so, Then I am one because Werdna says so - and Werdna would not lie because he was human? But if Werdna did lie at all, as some of you are suggesting, then perhaps he lied about more than one thing.

Honestly, you are about as bad at dragging this horrible game out as the other wolves. I guess I could end this thing quickly and give you their identities. But then, how would you know I wasn't lieing? Well that and it would be extremely poor sportsmanship!


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RhythmicAus


Posted: 01:29AM Feb 14, 2013

Updates posted

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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JQPublic


Posted: 03:13AM Feb 14, 2013

scrub88 wrote:
JQPublic wrote:
We know scrub is a wolf.


Why? Because I said so? Not good enough because wolves lie. If that's the case, then how can we believe werdna in the first place? Oh yea, humans tell the truth. So I am not a wolf because I say so, Then I am one because Werdna says so - and Werdna would not lie because he was human? But if Werdna did lie at all, as some of you are suggesting, then perhaps he lied about more than one thing.

Honestly, you are about as bad at dragging this horrible game out as the other wolves. I guess I could end this thing quickly and give you their identities. But then, how would you know I wasn't lieing? Well that and it would be extremely poor sportsmanship!


Nice try, scrub, but it's not like anyone's listening ...

Seriously, why would Werdna lie about you? He only lied about cat because cat is the only player who the seer TB players know is human. He couldn't have lied about you and misled the humans.

Rhythmic, I love the way you incorporated snowy's song into the story.


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PYTHON*


Posted: 03:14AM Feb 14, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
A coward dies 1000 times before his death



Explain what you mean Spidy.



Vote on someone who has talked and talked and never yet found a wolf.


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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 04:42AM Feb 14, 2013

I'm sorry, I thought you were busy not participating?
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buu441Ain


Posted: 04:43AM Feb 14, 2013

okay. not surprising werdna wasn't the seer. so i'd say they were the 3rd divined human, and the seer is still active. plus, an oracle was discovered, so the seer managed to clear 2 more human. but then again, rhy didnt post that the person who was (i.e. werdna) eaten was in the seer talk box, like he usually does in his game this is confusing.

i think i will vote GA again, based a gut feeling.


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RhythmicAus


Posted: 05:21AM Feb 14, 2013

buu441 wrote:
okay. not surprising werdna wasn't the seer. so i'd say they were the 3rd divined human, and the seer is still active. plus, an oracle was discovered, so the seer managed to clear 2 more human. but then again, rhy didnt post that the person who was (i.e. werdna) eaten was in the seer talk box, like he usually does in his game this is confusing.

i think i will vote GA again, based a gut feeling.


Ooops. That's what happens with a 2:30am post with me. I'll fix that.

EDIT: Fixed


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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 05:25AM Feb 14, 2013

Okay, nope, not happening gents. You are not voting me when we have a divined wolf in scrub88.

buu, you're pretty much confirming yourself as a wolf right now. So thank you very much. No more votes are to be added to me when scrub88 is a divined wolf. PYTHON is grudge voting, which isn't beneath him clearly, and as for buu, he has big paws and sharp teeth, so there's not much else to be said there.

I'm off to sleep. Night!
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JJPutztus


Posted: 05:42AM Feb 14, 2013

Yeah...I don't understand why we aren't voting scrub.

Oh well...
Guess I will switch to PYTHON then.


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JQPublic


Posted: 05:44AM Feb 14, 2013

Since we don't have much to go on now, I'll switch back to scrub.

What changed in the RFM? I can't see anything.


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RhythmicAus


Posted: 05:49AM Feb 14, 2013

This:
Werdna was a human in the Seer Talk Box, but not the Seer.

Used to say this:
Werdna was a human, but not the Seer.


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PYTHON*


Posted: 06:09AM Feb 14, 2013

Buu, you have went with your gut feeling before and been proven right. Do what you want, not what someone else is telling you to do.

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JQPublic


Posted: 06:15AM Feb 14, 2013

Oh, I see it now. Thanks.

'An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.' - Charles Dickens
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:09AM Feb 14, 2013

Blackest_Red voted for scrub88
buu441 voted for GreenApples27
GreenApples27 voted for Izzie
Izzie voted for GreenApples27
JJPutz voted for PYTHON
JQPublic voted for scrub88
Longhorn_fan voted for buu441
PYTHON voted for GreenApples27
scrub88 voted for PYTHON
The_Spider voted for Blackest_Red


This should be helpful later, switching to Scrub

Green, you and I's suspicous will be wrong more often than not (as is the nature of WWG) but tell me, have you ever voted someone out of spite?


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 07:16AM Feb 14, 2013

I guess I will vote for scrubbed now as the IDs have been revealed.
Besides scrubbed has confessed several times.
Next I strongly suggest buu!


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scrub88it


Posted: 07:36AM Feb 14, 2013

GreenApples27 wrote:
Okay, nope, not happening gents. You are not voting me when we have a divined wolf in scrub88.

buu, you're pretty much confirming yourself as a wolf right now. So thank you very much. No more votes are to be added to me when scrub88 is a divined wolf. PYTHON is grudge voting, which isn't beneath him clearly, and as for buu, he has big paws and sharp teeth, so there's not much else to be said there.

I'm off to sleep. Night!


I just can't believe everyone figured out we have been playing spider the whole game. It's ok to admit it because we can't hide it anymore.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:38AM Feb 14, 2013

Hit the showers kid, you'll get em next time

(dont finish Scrub until Elios/Yuffie have had a chance to vote)


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scrub88it


Posted: 08:20AM Feb 14, 2013

Thanks for the vote of confidence spidey. But how did you know werdna was lying? What next? You have only been feigning righteous indignation at the loss of Harry this whole game? Say it sin't so!
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:26AM Feb 14, 2013

I know all and see all

and I saw "scrud" online just now, you're not fooling anybody


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EliosAus


Posted: 09:12AM Feb 14, 2013

Gah, sorry I'm so late! With church and everything last night, I just went to bed straight away.

I agree with the Scrubb vote and will join it in spirit, but to delay actually shooting him (as you have all so kindly done), I will vote someone random for now.

I'll also poke Yuffie on FB and tell her to get over here to vote.


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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:09AM Feb 14, 2013

Ack, computer glitched >.< Luckily I was able to copy what I had originall posted:

Sorry I'm late! (A PM from Elios is the only reason I'm here now, so thanks


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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:10AM Feb 14, 2013

Double posting to say WHAT THE HECK is happening to my post!?

RETRY:
Sorry I'm late! (A PM from Elios is the only reason I'm here now, so thanks ) I too went to bed early & work had me tied up until now -

So glad Werdna wasn't our actual Seer! But as Snowmonster was a wolf, I think it's proven that Scrub88 is also a wolf... I don't understand why people are actually seriously voting anyone else (I understand to SPV to give everyone a chance to come on, thank you!) Maybe I misread something...

I locked a vote in for Scrub88 but luckily got distracted at work b/c I now see he has 5 votes on him - so I will SPV myself just to so we can spend the next 10hrs discussing the other two wolves (Please note I am not voting myself to get out of the game - I just need to put my vote somewhere other than Scrub88 right now & I don't want to start a majority on someone else)


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:10AM Feb 14, 2013

Its time to shoot Scrub now guys, lets cut the fat and get to it

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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:11AM Feb 14, 2013

kk - changing my vote then (if this darn computer will let me! I don't understand....)

Edit: I did want to say that I think it would be beneficial to use the 10hrs of this round to discuss the other possible wolves, rather than wait until Round 6. I can't stay on to discuss my theories atm but hopefully I can come back to re-read this round in a few (assuming the round doesn't end early)


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 10:17AM Feb 14, 2013

I am almost certain the Buu is the 3rd wolf.

I have been gunning for him since round 3 and I will continue to until I am proven wrong.

Like I said eariler I think that is where our vote should go next round, unless something is proven to dispute this.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 10:29AM Feb 14, 2013

PYTHON wrote:
Buu, you have went with your gut feeling before and been proven right. Do what you want, not what someone else is telling you to do.


thanks for the support

@longhorn: does that mean until i am shot, and then rhy says i am cleared?

seer, go ahead divine me fast. i thought werdna said i was the seer's target for last round.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 10:30AM Feb 14, 2013

GreenApples27 wrote:
Okay, nope, not happening gents. You are not voting me when we have a divined wolf in scrub88.

buu, you're pretty much confirming yourself as a wolf right now. So thank you very much. No more votes are to be added to me when scrub88 is a divined wolf. PYTHON is grudge voting, which isn't beneath him clearly, and as for buu, he has big paws and sharp teeth, so there's not much else to be said there.

I'm off to sleep. Night!


i dont see you voting scrubb either why is that so?


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:39AM Feb 14, 2013

The only problem with waiting 10 hours is we get an EXTREMELY long night because veyr few people log in that close to midnight so we have to wait for the very last logind "today" before the wolves will vote. I propose we just move this forward but I understand if people want to keep it going.

I like Buu or BR for Wolf #3 too

Buu your strained attempts to incriminate an obviously human GA are only deepening your grave in my eyes


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EliosAus


Posted: 10:56AM Feb 14, 2013

Boss handed me a project that's gonna keep me busy all day. Does she really expect me to do work while at work?

Anyway, my point is that I'm going to go ahead and change my vote to scrubb in case it is decided to end the Day; I'll help us get that much closer.

What I want to know is why the WOLFs keep dragging the nights out. I guess it's so they can all chat in their TB and reach a consensus, but it's getting annoying. Talk faster! xP


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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:42AM Feb 14, 2013

I do agree that 10hrs is a bit excessive - I just feel that a little discussion now will help us move forward later on. But if we're fairly confident in Buu & BR then I'm cool with moving ahead & discussing them next round.

Buu441 wrote:
i dont see you [GA] voting scrubb either why is that so?


A lot of people were holding off voting so that everyone would have a chance to come in & post. He even said he was throwing "a vote out for seer coverage." I understand the need to defend yourself, but you're going about it the wrong way, imo.

Before I settle my mind on Buu441, I do want people's thoughts on the fact that Snowmonster and Scrub88 SPV'd him a few times - they (Snow & Scrub) did a pretty good job with ignoring each other throughout the game, so I'd question the motive in voting for a fellow wolf, even in jest (i.e. SPV are usually changed by the end of the game) but I'll be honest & say I've never really noticed if that's a thing to do in previous games...

JJPutz Wrote (in Round 3)
can somebody explain to me why you are suspecting me? Just because I'm me isn't sufficient.


I never got to answer you last round but you were only suspected because you're being too quiet; I think everyone has been suspected at least once in this game.

Elios Wrote:
What I want to know is why the WOLFs keep dragging the nights out. I guess it's so they can all chat in their TB and reach a consensus, but it's getting annoying. Talk faster! xP

I TOTALLY second this! Either the wolves are enjoying their nightly discussions immensely or perhaps they're waiting on a lesser-active individual to chime in... (I guess that is a good enough reason to just end this Round LOL)


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 11:48AM Feb 14, 2013

The only people who suspected me are either wolves, or people pretending to suspect me to draw out the real wolves. You might say, how would you know that? I would say

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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:57AM Feb 14, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
The only people who suspected me are either wolves, or people pretending to suspect me to draw out the real wolves. You might say, how would you know that? I would say


LOL Okay, well most players have been suspected. Except Elios and Longhorn (but since Scrub said something positive about her, I'm wondering now...). Actually, only Werdna suspected me & that's because I was being nosy

I'm very curious about this post:

scrub88 wrote:
GreenApples27 wrote:
Okay, nope, not happening gents. You are not voting me when we have a divined wolf in scrub88.

buu, you're pretty much confirming yourself as a wolf right now. So thank you very much. No more votes are to be added to me when scrub88 is a divined wolf. PYTHON is grudge voting, which isn't beneath him clearly, and as for buu, he has big paws and sharp teeth, so there's not much else to be said there.

I'm off to sleep. Night!


I just can't believe everyone figured out we have been playing spider the whole game. It's ok to admit it because we can't hide it anymore.


I understand the "we" refers to Scrub88 and his fellow WOLFs but the "playing Spider".... that's implying that someone Spider thinks is human is really a wolf, right? I think the only people he's explicitly, completely cleared are GreenApples27 and PYTHON, correct? He's responding directly to GA so.... maybe he really IS a wolf? Unless Scrub is just trying to confuse us (good job, my migraine did not need this LOL)


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 12:07PM Feb 14, 2013

I would dismiss anything Scrub says this round as playfulness, an exposed wolf is not a reliable source of info as his posts can be a mixture of goofing around, bold truths, or boldfaced lies, I disregard his posts as anything other than harmless trolling

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YuffieAus


Posted: 12:14PM Feb 14, 2013

Yeah, I was thinking that too. It is most likely just trolling but he really could say anything... if we ignore it & it's the truth, then GA is safe the rest of the game, thus ensuring a victory for the wolves. Or, he could be trying to save a fellow wolf (Buu441) from most likely being shot next round, so he wants us to waste a bullet on GA....

Yeah, I'm cool with ignoring it but if Buu441 is human then I'll definitely have some serious doubts about GreenApples27.


EDIT: I think everyone is cool with ending this round right? (I think I'm the only one who wanted to hold off & I'm good now )
We only need one more vote on Scrub88 to end the round - so the next person w/ an SPV who checks on the game, go ahead & switch your vote!


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