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The Werewolf Game #2928

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #1

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  

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shaidar9haran*us


Posted: 09:59PM Jun 12, 2013

Thanks shaidar9haran, glad you could join us

1) I would prefer you RFM but as I will be posting in blue it is no big deal.
2) Do NOT post in blue.
3) Exact identities will NOT be given at all, but in rounds 3 and 6 you will be told how many of each role remain.

All Humans (including the WIHC) have been invited to a TB. Please accept you invites. You may discuss anything you want in here. You know everyone in there is human, but are they all true humans? THE CRYPTKEEPER/BACK-UP SEER has also been invited to a separate box. As humans die, they will be invited to the box.

OPINION POLL ----> should the wolves be allowed in too?


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shaidar9haran*us


Posted: 10:01PM Jun 12, 2013

Hey ya'll, HABS just added me as a friend so I could sign up for this game, just got eaten in round one of my last, so I'm excited to get going here. Just going to throw out an early SPV for now in case I don't get back, but willing to change if something comes about. Good Hunting.
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 10:19PM Jun 12, 2013

I kinda skimmed the new rules and roles from round 0 so now I have to go back and read it. Spving someone random while I do that.

Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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debc1A


Posted: 10:38PM Jun 12, 2013

hi

will vote randomly


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J-Boy*za


Posted: 11:38PM Jun 12, 2013

SPV for now. Going to write my accounting exam

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 11:56PM Jun 12, 2013

SPV for someone not yet voted for.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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caberetAus


Posted: 12:54AM Jun 13, 2013

Yay, we've started!

Going to SPV for someone that hasn't been voted for yet and hasn't voted yet. Hopefully someone fits that bill...


"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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kurtis626A


Posted: 02:35AM Jun 13, 2013

All right! Happy hunting!


SPV voting


Treat others as you would like to be treated because that would make the world a better place to be. That is if you like to be treated with love and respect.
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jeminyten


Posted: 04:06AM Jun 13, 2013

I'll continue sharing out the votes for now. Equality for all!

I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 04:46AM Jun 13, 2013

Hi shaid, it's been a while since I have seen you in a WWG.

An interesting group, looking forward to a great game, U'm gonna put in an earky SPV, subject to change.

I will be back later.

Stewie.

Edit voted freak for now.


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Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 05:38AM Jun 13, 2013

Accounting wasn't so bad I will be back on later to switch my vote to an inactive of there is one.

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 05:50AM Jun 13, 2013

Glad the game has started.

I put a SPV in for now.

Voted caberet.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:38AM Jun 13, 2013

To clarify a few points:

1) The WIJJC is a human working with the wolves. The goal is for the WIHC to be the "last man standing" alongside the wolves. IF the WIHC makes it to the end with the wolves, he/she is considered among the winners.

2) The ROGUE WOLF - is a wolf who has to hide not only from the humans but his/her fellow wolves as well. His/Her job is to assist the humans defeat the wolves. He/She wants to be the last wolf shot. However this person cannot come out and declare that they are the Rogue Wolf.

3) TBs are a free-for-all for those in them. I will be reading them just for curiosity sake but will not dictate what can and cannot be said in them. Everyone will be given mod powers in their boxes. Use them responsibly.

4) Still waiting for input about the Dead Players Box - should it be limited to just humans or should the wolves be allowed in to? I cannot tell you who is who even in there since there will be one player in there (the crypt-keeper/back-up seer) who is still in the game. Unless, that person is prohibited from sharing this knowledge.




O Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done The ship has weather'd ever rack, The prize we sought is won.
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JayoAie


Posted: 07:44AM Jun 13, 2013

Hey Habs, really really good set up you have here

I think the wolves should be allowed into the dead box, sure gives them the chance to help their side with bluffs or double bluffs maybe

I'll SPV for now but probably will switch to create a majority later on


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 08:17AM Jun 13, 2013

I agree that there should be a box for the wolves as well.
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EliosAus


Posted: 08:18AM Jun 13, 2013

So many intriguing parts to this game - so fun! And for my 2 cents, I think it's Ok if the Wolves are allowed into the Dead Players' TB - they are players, and they are dead. LOL

As it is Round 1, I will join in on the MoO SPVing. Let me go see who hasn't been voted for yet.

Edit to add: Ok, voted for koin_era, as I didn't see any other votes on him.


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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 08:23AM Jun 13, 2013

Just wanted to state that I am in favor of the wolves getting a box.

I shall continue waiting to see more peoples opinions on that.

Still keeping my vote on freak. Not much else to say in these early days of the game.


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 09:10AM Jun 13, 2013

My phone was acting weird last nmight and would not let me post.

Anyhow going to SPV.


Like what you love, and love what you got.
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caberetAus


Posted: 09:24AM Jun 13, 2013

OPINION POLL ----> should the wolves be allowed in too?
No! This set-up seems rather wolf sided. Let's not give them any additional advantages. By not letting them in, it gives the seer a shot at guessing their status ahead of the mod's tentative ID.

I'm holding my vote on kurtis626 since this player has logged onto Braingle today, yet hasn't bothered to place an SPV. Active players help our cause, inactives are basically helping the wolves, IMHO.

Edit to fix quote coding.


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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:31AM Jun 13, 2013

OPINION POLL ----> should the wolves be allowed in too?No! This set-up is already pretty much wolf sided. Let's not give them any additional advantages.


Do you really think it is wolf sided? I was trying to avoid that. Sure they have a human in their pocket, but don't forget the humans also have a wolf working on their behalf, AND a 2nd seer.

The wolves will not get their own box, that would be too much of an advantage I was just going to let them in the dead box. The cryptkeeper does not have to pay them any mind. At some point I may even announce to the box that there is a wolf among you.

I'll decide when it becomes an issue I guess.


O Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done The ship has weather'd ever rack, The prize we sought is won.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 10:34AM Jun 13, 2013

I think the wolves should be allowed into the box and say every 3rd round you could tell them if there is a wolf in the box or not. It could also coincide with you telling the people still alive how many of each role are left.

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 10:42AM Jun 13, 2013

sOUNDS OK TO ME TO LET THE WOLVES IN THE DEAD BOX, AFTER ALL....THEY ARE DEAD

Like what you love, and love what you got.
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shaidar9haran*us


Posted: 10:55AM Jun 13, 2013

Okay now that we've all had a chance to protect the seer, I think it's time we make a concentrated effort towards one person to prevent the wolves from creating a small two or three person majority. First round is always a good time to get rid of inactives.

Kaipper hasn't voted not posted. Kurtis posted about doing an SPV but hasn't followed through. Jeminy has posted but also not voted yet. Yuffie like Kaipper has done neither.

For now I'll stick with my vote for Yuffie, but I also am not familiar with much of this group so feel free to speak up if one of the above is just slow to join us but is normally active. I'm down to switch.

Also just a question for HABS: We're not allowed to say who is in our TB or anything right? I just wanted to clarify that this is an official rule so we don't have any accidental blabbing.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:02AM Jun 13, 2013

Sorry, this was the first time I've been able to come on all day (ugh, what a horrible day this has been so far & it's only noon!). I will vote for Fleetwood_38 as no one has voted for him (her?) yet.

I think the dead-wolves should be added to that talkbox - the Cryptkeeper should be able to speak to both sides (hopefully s/he would get more clues that way).
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 11:02AM Jun 13, 2013

shaidar9haran wrote:

Also just a question for HABS: We're not allowed to say who is in our TB or anything right? I just wanted to clarify that this is an official rule so we don't have any accidental blabbing.


That's right. You and the members of your box are the only ones allowed to know who is in it. You know everyone in your box is human, BUT the WIHC is in one of the boxes.

I like J-Boy's idea of letting you know if there is a wolf in the box when I let you know how many of each type player is left. Of course if I tell you there are only 2 wolves left, you should figure out there is a wolf in the box

Do you guys want clues or is there enough already going on? I'm good either way, but more inclined to think you don't need them.


O Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done The ship has weather'd ever rack, The prize we sought is won.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 11:05AM Jun 13, 2013

Oh, BTW I just got off the phone with my sister, she was supposed to come pick me up, but the son who is supposed to be graduating tonight has just been admitted to Emerg with complications from a concussion he suffered a couple weeks ago. He won't be going to the ceremony, so there is no point in us going. You are stuck with me all day!

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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:10AM Jun 13, 2013

shaidar9haran wrote:
Okay now that we've all had a chance to protect the seer, I think it's time we make a concentrated effort towards one person to prevent the wolves from creating a small two or three person majority.

Kaipper hasn't voted nor posted.... Yuffie like Kaipper has done neither.



Here now! I was writing my post at the same time you were (I wasted some time looking at who to SPV for).

I don't think we should randomly pick someone to shoot unless we have suspicions against a person or they are truly inactive. The round started late last night, so there is a possibility that Kaipper just hasn't had a chance to come on yet (like me). We could shoot someone whose logged on but hasn't posted but in their defense, there's not much to say yet.


HABS2933 wrote:
Do you guys want clues or is there enough already going on? I'm good either way, but more inclined to think you don't need them.


I'm always up for clues

Edit:

HABS2933 wrote:
the son who is supposed to be graduating tonight has just been admitted


Oh my word! I'm so sorry - I'll keep him & your family in my prayers.


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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 11:12AM Jun 13, 2013

My vote is going to remain for caberet!
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debc1A


Posted: 11:14AM Jun 13, 2013

too much and i might start getting confused


habs:
so just to clarify in my mind
all the human are split up in boxes
in one of the boxes is a wihc- working for the wolves
in another box is a fake wolf working for the humans
in another box is a 2nd seer
and in another box is the cryptkeeper(who is alive?) and does what??


i am all for voting an inactive


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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 11:18AM Jun 13, 2013

Keeping my vote where it us for now. I'm currently at work but ill post more later on.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:35AM Jun 13, 2013

debc1 wrote:
and in another box is the cryptkeeper(who is alive?) and does what??


The Cryptkeeper will talk to the shot/eaten players in the talkbox. (Hopefully the Cryptkeeper does not become one of them LOL) S/he is basically a "medium" (the connection between the living & the dead) - right, HABS?
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 11:40AM Jun 13, 2013

Thanks Yuffie, I am sure he will be okay, but he was throwing up a lot last night (not abnormal with a concussion). He decided to to to the morning activities for the grad and left right after the Mass. He was not feeling well so he was taken by ambulance to the nearest hospital which then refused to treat him since he recently turned 18 and it is solely a pediatric hospital - back on the ambulance and off to an adult hospital. y sister was on her way to the ER when she called me.

Deb (and everyone else)

(1) There are 3 TBs - with 4 people in each box. Two of the boxes contain only humans. The third box contains 3 humans and the WIHC.

(2) The wolves do NOT have a TB at all - but will be invited to the dead box if killed (with no one knowing they were a wolf).

(3) 2nd seer and Cryptkeeper are the same person. That person has no idea who the real seer is and is currently in a box alone. As players are shot or eaten they will be allowed into said box.

I know -clear as mud right?


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Kaippertus


Posted: 01:45PM Jun 13, 2013

I hope he is okay, Habs!

I think it is fairer for the wolves to not have a TB. I'm going to put in a SPV for now.
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 02:06PM Jun 13, 2013

HABS...NO vomiting is NOT normal for a concussion. It generally means that the concussion is severe. If vomiting and/or nausea persists more than 72 hours it is generally a good idea to have a CT of the brain done to R/O brain bleeds that are causing continued pressure. ALSO......a concussion means TOTAL REST!!!
NO TV
NO VIdeo Games
NO Cell phone use
NO reading
The brain has to rest. The neuron signals have to be slowed to allow the brain to rest. Kinda like if you twist your ankle running, you can not go back to running until the ankle has rested and healed.
It is a boreing time, espically for a child or teen.
Trust me my daughter, mind you she is 4, had a concussion 3 months ago after climbing and falling back on a metal chair. We could not watch TV, read books, do puzzels.....She almost died of boredom. She recovered quickly after 4 days but continued to have a headach for about 10 days but the dizziness, irratiblity, concentration and stomach issues resolved over the first few days.....she slept for 38 hours afterwards. Which is GOOD for the brain but sucks for a parent when you see your very active child sleep for almost 2 days.

I am a sport medicine nurse. We treat a lot of concussions.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 02:35PM Jun 13, 2013

Thanks for the info LH. I thought vomiting and nausea was par for the course. Everything I've read (on sites like Mayo Clinic, WebMD, Johns Hopkins etc) say it is not abnormal. IT is funny you comment on sports and concussions. He plays hockey, football, lacrosse, he boxes and he skis yet he knocked himself out falling down the stairs at school. HE had either an MRI or CT scan done when it happened, and was sent home. This just came back out of the blue, he seemed fine a week ago (the original fall was about 2 weeks ago). I know from my best friend being hurt (also from a fall down some stairs) that the ramifications of a concussion can last for years. He just got close to a million dollars because his workplace stupidly admitted fault when it happened, but he still has headaches, blurred vision and at times makes little sense.
I will have to talk to my sister later tonight or tomorrow to see what is going on. I wish they lived closer, I have no way to get there.


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shaidar9haran*us


Posted: 03:39PM Jun 13, 2013

Wow I think we have a 15 person MoO right now, I'm not sure if I've ever seen this. And I'm not sure where to go from here, no one has warranted a second vote in my opinion all the inactives have showed up and posted. But it still irks me that it'll be 80% likely we'll get a human instead of a wolf here so I'm open to any suggestions.
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jeminyten


Posted: 04:11PM Jun 13, 2013

Although I usually vote to stop the randomiser, I don't see any reason to deal a second vote on somebody. Plus, I guess a 15 MoO is nice and neat and I can't quite bring myself to disrupt that.

I'll just keep my vote on Jayo.


I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 04:22PM Jun 13, 2013

WHAT???^^^^^^

Leaving the vote to a randomiser in a game with special rolls besides the seer and wolves is not a smart move....BUT who do we then vote??

Anyone with just one "lame" post? Like the 4wheels post? No offene to rachael, just making a refrence.


Like what you love, and love what you got.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 05:03PM Jun 13, 2013

shaidar9haran wrote:
Wow I think we have a 15 person MoO right now, I'm not sure if I've ever seen this.


Really? Literally virtually every game I've been in, the first round was entirely a MoO - that "rule" was only broken if we had blatant inactives (1+days of not even logging in). So basically, either everyone had 1 vote or the person who didn't vote would be shot.

I know there are special roles out there in this game, but it could be more detrimental if we pick a random active person to shoot just so it's not the computer's choice - it's still a random selection. Ironically, the only person I'm getting a vibe from is you, Shaidar9haran, but to shoot an active player on a whim feels worse to me than just letting "the fates decide".


Edit

Longhorn_fan wrote:
Anyone with just one "lame" post? Like the 4wheels post?


4Wheels isn't in this game


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:36PM Jun 13, 2013

Yuffie wrote:

Longhorn_fan wrote:
Anyone with just one "lame" post? Like the 4wheels post?


4Wheels isn't in this game


I was thinking the same thing but then thought maybe LH is just talking in general 4-wheels has in the past done that, where she will join a game then make minimal contributions that are quite often meaningless. OF COURSE this is not to slam 4-wheels, many other players do the same thing.


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 06:07PM Jun 13, 2013

Yes HABS. That is what I meant. The one post every round that only says "SPV" . That is the only post round after round.

As HABS said no disrespect to 4Wheels.


EDIT: I do not see any posts like that.


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shaidar9haran*us


Posted: 06:15PM Jun 13, 2013

Yuffie wrote:
shaidar9haran wrote:
Wow I think we have a 15 person MoO right now, I'm not sure if I've ever seen this.


Really? Literally virtually every game I've been in, the first round was entirely a MoO - that "rule" was only broken if we had blatant inactives (1+days of not even logging in). So basically, either everyone had 1 vote or the person who didn't vote would be shot.


That seems to be silly to make that a rule or even to do it often, if you always vote randomly, its bad odds for the humans (80%), and if it's a known 'rule' then the wolves can just sit back easy, pretty confident they'll all be safe, and no information is gleaned.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:05PM Jun 13, 2013

I think that sometimes she joins just to get the game started,thinking she is helping us out, she is often the last player in.

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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 07:13PM Jun 13, 2013

Sorry if I am not posting much. Sometimes I just don't know what to say in WWG. I am active however, my vote remained the same
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:41PM Jun 13, 2013

Well I definitely don't want to end the round at MoO, that accomplishes nothing... :/

Longhorn's response to jeminy's post (which looked fairly normal to me) was a little strange. I mean, of course were gonna have to vote somebody.

Oh yeah, deb, are you a wolf?


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Kaippertus


Posted: 07:44PM Jun 13, 2013

I think everyone is just nervous about breaking the MoO for fear they will be suspected.
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 08:57PM Jun 13, 2013

I agree

Honestly not sure what we should be doing in this situation. :/

Edit; we should probably be trying to get more discussion in, but its a little late with only an hour left in the round


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:38PM Jun 13, 2013

Really don't want to end this at moo - putting a second vote on longhorn for brig the only one I have a reason to suspect and maybe it could shake things up a little too

Edit: apparently my vote was already on LH let me think for a second


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debc1A


Posted: 09:46PM Jun 13, 2013

we can always change to vote you koin

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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 09:56PM Jun 13, 2013

I almost agree with you deb but its a little early to be making literally last minute vote changes.nthink ill let fate decide on this one.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:57PM Jun 13, 2013

Can't let that happen if that makes me suspicious, so be it.

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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 09:59PM Jun 13, 2013

Changed my mind and voted koin

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:29AM Jun 14, 2013

USER POLL

Okay, as I said, I will only be given you info every 3rd round:
THIS IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE

There were 15 players in this game:
12 Humans
3 Wolves
1 Seer
1 Back-up Seer
1 WIHC
1 Rogue Wolf

There are now 11 Players left in the game
10 Humans
1 Wolf
0 Seers
1 Back-up Seer
1 WIHC
1 Rogue Wolf

------------------------------
This ^^^^^^^ is a given, my question to you is:

With everything else going on in the game, I don't really want to have to make up clues for the game.
HOWEVER - if you guys want, I will in the rounds I give you the above information, give you clues to who was who. You are not obligated to solve them, but if you feel the need for the information ,you can have it.


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