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The Werewolf Game #2928

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  

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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 10:43AM Jun 14, 2013

Thanks LH! Please look back at the final post (after the round had ended) of round 1. I pose a question to the group that I'd like input on. I am very pleased with the amount of activity in the game and hope it keeps up. Don't forget you have the TBs for discussions and strategizing throughout the day or night. One box is being utilized a fair bit, the others ...not so much.

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Like what you love, and love what you got.
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 10:44AM Jun 14, 2013

Wow, I logged on and the night just finished....Cool. Active wolves

Poor Deb
Poor Koin

Hope neither was the seer.

SPV for now


Like what you love, and love what you got.
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 11:00AM Jun 14, 2013

Argh not knowing if we got a wolf or not makes this so much harder.

I'll just SPV for Elios for now.


Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 12:01PM Jun 14, 2013

Well, personally HABS I don't think clues are necessary unless you're feeling particularly energetic

Otherwise yeah freak it does make it quite a bit harder. I'll SPV LH for now.


Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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YuffieAus


Posted: 12:25PM Jun 14, 2013

Wow, that was fast! I came on to check the WTB game & clicked on WWG out of habit.

I'll safety for StewieGriffin . I agree that clues aren't necessary, but I also enjoy them so I'm cool either way ^_^

Caberet has not logged on today, so that pretty much clears her, since the night didn't time out & Round 1 ended only a few hours ago; so that's something

Edit to add - wait, the night ended at 11pm when Freakshow posted last (I'm going to assume) but even still, Cab would have only had 1 hour to squeeze in a wolf-vote, since she hasn't logged on at all today.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 12:33PM Jun 14, 2013

The clues were not going to be for the actual game. Just an added "fun thing" as to who the ousted players were. Remember in round 3 I will just say there are 11 players left - 2 are wolve, 9 are human. IF you want clues to what role the shot/eaten players had, I can rite clues for those.

Don't forget - when you are using log ins to try to figure things out (which I don't like anyway) the log in times are being shown in YOUR local time - but today could be yesterday and yesterday could be tomorrow. THIS more effects the people in time zones east of most of us are in either Eastern,(GMT -5) Central, or Mountain (I think)


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Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 12:42PM Jun 14, 2013

Or GMT +2

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 12:45PM Jun 14, 2013

South Africa is only GMT +2? I don't know why I thought it'd be more than that! But I guess time zones run east to west, not north to south.

How many time zones are there there? We have 6. One is really screwed up and is only 30 mins ahead of Atlantic time (1.5 hrs ahead of Eastern).


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YuffieAus


Posted: 12:59PM Jun 14, 2013

HABS2933 wrote:

Don't forget - when you are using log ins to try to figure things out (which I don't like anyway) the log in times are being shown in YOUR local time - but today could be yesterday and yesterday could be tomorrow.


Sorry Feel free to edit my post (or I can, if you'd prefer) - I still think it would only leave a relatively small window of opportunity for this person to log on before 12: 01am but there is more of a chance for them to have hopped on before bed....

Edited to fix color


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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 01:01PM Jun 14, 2013

You could put the clues onto the crypt keeper box.i think it'd be more helpful to them than us anyhow.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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jeminyten


Posted: 01:16PM Jun 14, 2013

I'm going to place a SPV on kurtis for now.
The ID makes it harder to get anywhere, but that's the fun of the game, right? I'll look for something later on to get something a little stronger than a random vote

And I don't mind if we have clues or not... I'll let the other decide. And the mod of course


I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 01:18PM Jun 14, 2013

lol freakhow didn't you just say it was hard not knowing who was shot? If I give you the clues, those of you who want to know can solve them. But yeah I guess I can just give the clues to the CryptKeeper. Though how they can pass that info onto you without being too open is beyond me. Therein lies the challenge to our special ops - get the info to you team without the enemy figuring it out.

YUFFIE I don't really care if you guys use Log-ins to figure things out - I just don't think they help as much as some people think, especially with an active group since most everybody is on regularly anywyay and people like me and Jayo for instance are always logged on even if we are no where near our computers. And remember the day round does not start right away, it is delayed for up to 3 or 4 hrs after the night ends.


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Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 01:42PM Jun 14, 2013

HAHA....I went back and read the end of last round LOL.....KOIN

I just find that so funny that he wanted to start a majority on me for no real reason and it got him shot. I was just trying to see if anyone was just being a lazy player and start a maj on them rather than leave to random.....normally there is an inactive in the mix to choose from in round one rather than saying "enie meenie mini moe "

HABS I think clues would be too much, just my opinion


Like what you love, and love what you got.
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Kaippertus


Posted: 02:43PM Jun 14, 2013

I don't think we need clues. Let's make it a more challenging game

I'll put in a SPV later.
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EliosAus


Posted: 02:47PM Jun 14, 2013

"Backwards" clues as to the ID of the shot/dead players is a very interesting idea, but I do agree it might be too much for this game set-up. I would like to see that used in a game, though!

I don't have any suspicions forming yet, so I'll SPV for someone w/o a vote yet; I don't have too much time to reread post, etc right now. But I'll be back to make a more concrete decision later.

Edit to add: SPV for Kaipper (but not b/c you posted above me; I hadn't seen that before going back to the voting list. )


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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 02:54PM Jun 14, 2013

Glad to see we have worked our way to the second round. I agree about utilizing the TB

SPV for Kaipper.
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caberetAus


Posted: 03:02PM Jun 14, 2013

I'm voting for Kaipper who seems quite wolfie to me.
1. Doesn't want clues!?
2. Isn't placing an SPV, which is our best way of hiding our seer

This game seems wolf-sided to me because we're not being provided identities. This is typically the most used way of finding wolves. Without it, we're at the mercy of our seer, who we can't even be assured of as real.

Clues would be helpful. Thanks1


"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 03:15PM Jun 14, 2013

I will post the clues along with the x wolves left info in the appropriate rounds. THEY WILL NOT BE EASY! You don't have to even attempt them as they will not tell you anything about the players left, If you think you've solved them, feel free to share. I will verify if you are correct.

Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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JayoAie


Posted: 03:23PM Jun 14, 2013

Voting List:
It takes 7 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.

caberet voted for Kaipper
Elios voted for Kaipper
Fleetwood__38 voted for Kaipper
freakshow07 voted for Elios
J-Boy voted for Longhorn_fan
Jayo voted for jeminy
jeminy voted for kurtis626
Longhorn_fan voted for caberet
Yuffie voted for StewieGriffin

Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.


Well it seems to be a quick pile on Kaipper. Maybe there are reasons for that that I just can't see but it's still early in the game so not gonna fret too much just yet.

I've SPV'd for Jeminy, pretty much random choice and open to changing.


So sore after indoor soccer earlier, I'm not as fit as I was


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 03:24PM Jun 14, 2013

In South Africa there is only one time zone, fortunately. It does make things a lot more simple. As far as I know we run on Central African Time which is the 30 degree line of longitude.

EDIT: I really don't think Kaipper is a wolf just seems like more of a misguided human to me. Plus cab, the clues are not for people in the game, what is the reason for needing them?


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 03:57PM Jun 14, 2013

TO CLEAR UP THE SEEMING CONFUSION

Lets say it is round 3;

15 players began the game
3 wolves
12 humans
1 seer
1 WIHC
1 Rogue Wolf
1 CryptKeeper

Currently there are 11 players in the game
1 Wolf
10 humans
0 seer
0 WIHC
1 Rogue Wolf

An example of a clue you could get would be (USING A PLAYER NOT INVOLVED IN THE GAME)

THE KING AND HIS ENTOURAGE ESCORTED THE KNIGHT INTO THE COURTYARD WHERE HE WAS PROMPTLY HANGED. IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE AUTOPSY THAT IT WAS REVELED THAT THE PRISONER SUFFERED FROM Hypertrichosis AND WAS IN FACT NOT WHAT HE HAD SEEMED.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 04:00PM Jun 14, 2013

^^^^^^ Solving it will help you figure out the role one of the deceased players was, but not solving it won't hurt.

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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 05:04PM Jun 14, 2013

Guys I don't think we should be voting for kipper. When the round started I checked activity levels and she hadn't logged on since yesterday. I know that leaves a small window of about 2 hours for her to have votes as a wolf but I was on pretty much until the new calendar day started and I don't remember seeing her online in that time frame. I could be wrong but I really don't think she is a wolf.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 05:05PM Jun 14, 2013

Wow, at first I thought we were getting somewhere (based on the voting list) but then it looks like people have just been jumping onto an SPV - Fleetwood, did you not see Elios vote for Kaipper above you or are you just trying to avoid the MoO?

I also think it a little shady for freakshow07 to take it upon himself to decide whom we should all shoot. Koin_era was a little trigger happy, that's true, but at least he said he got a vibe from her (to quote him: "the only one I have a reason to suspect"). As far as I can tell, Freakshow did it just for the fun of it. This isn't WTB where the voting clears someone - Freak literally kicked Koin out of the game right at the end, without any discussion.

I dunno. That's why I don't like creating majorities with no evidence - we're just shooting in the dark & the loudest person gets heard.

I'm keeping my vote on StewieGriffin for now; none of my suspicions are strong enough so unless someone can provide "evidence" against a player, I don't see the point in switching my vote.


Edit - Freakshow & I posted a minute apart from each other, but my opinion still stands.


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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 05:10PM Jun 14, 2013

^ yuffie I didn't have time to type out an explanation before the round ended. And actually, I can't say why I changed my vote because that would break the rules of the game. I know it makes me look fishy but I had a good reason to do what I did I just wish I could say why.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:30PM Jun 14, 2013

If you are using something you were told outside the game in a PM or chat then yes that is breaking the rules. If are using information that is even somewhat common knowledge - like um (nad and Putz are brothers) than that is okay.
There is no rule that says you cannot discuss previous rounds.


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Fleetwood__38t


Posted: 05:50PM Jun 14, 2013

Yuffie wrote:
Fleetwood, did you not see Elios vote for Kaipper above you or are you just trying to avoid the MoO?


No. I didn't see that until I placed my vote. Then I saw that people went along with it. Keeping my vote for Kaiper. Freakshow is somewhat suspicious to me..


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Kaippertus


Posted: 05:55PM Jun 14, 2013

caberet wrote:
I'm voting for Kaipper who seems quite wolfie to me.
1. Doesn't want clues!?


Interesting. J-Boy, Yuffie, jeminiy, and Elios all also said that clues are not necessary or that they don't need them, yet I get a vote for saying clues aren't necessary? I feel like it would be too hard for the mod to manage since this game already has a lot to keep track of.

I'm going to vote for freakshow because he won't say why he changed his vote. I find that suspicious.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:01PM Jun 14, 2013

I've decided you are right, clues are a bit much throughout the game - it is already hard enough to keep track of who is who!

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caberetAus


Posted: 08:44PM Jun 14, 2013

Kaipper wrote:
freakshow07 wrote:
Guys I don't think we should be voting for kipper... I really don't think she is a wolf.
I'm going to vote for freakshow ...
You're voting for the player that is trying to protect you?

Changing my vote because I trust freakshow. (Hoping he's not going to make me sorry for that!)

Edit: Changed to Kurtis since s/he has neither voted nor be voted for...


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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 09:22PM Jun 14, 2013

Actually cab jeminy already noted kurtis.

And don't worry your trust in me is not misplaced. You of all people would know that I don't do anything unless I have a valid reason for it, even.if I'm not allowed to say why.


Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:58PM Jun 14, 2013

I hope you're not cheating Freakshow!

Cheating is like getting into a fist fight with a 4 year old - if you win, so what? And if you lose how pathetic does that make you?


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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 10:27PM Jun 14, 2013

Lol no I'm not cheating

I am, however, changing my vote to stewie as he has yet to post or vote.


Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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Kaippertus


Posted: 10:36PM Jun 14, 2013

caberet wrote:
Kaipper wrote:
freakshow07 wrote:
Guys I don't think we should be voting for kipper... I really don't think she is a wolf.
I'm going to vote for freakshow ...
You're voting for the player that is trying to protect you?


Yes? That doesn't excuse him from breaking the rules. I'm kind of curious how something can go against the rules of the game and not be cheating, but he did change his vote. Therefore I will be joining the majority for Stewie because he has been inactive this round.
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kurtis626A


Posted: 12:33AM Jun 15, 2013

Now now. Why do I have two votes for me?

My argument as to why I am in fact human is this; I was a wolf the last game I played (jayo and stewie can confirm) and the chances of me being a wolf again are slim.

Well unfortunately stewie has got the majority on him. I suspect a wolf or two are targeting him so keep an eye out on those who voted him this round.

I'm going to counter vote one of them for stewie's sake.


Treat others as you would like to be treated because that would make the world a better place to be. That is if you like to be treated with love and respect.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 12:33AM Jun 15, 2013

Pileup on Stewie. Really, there are still 10 hours left I guess I'll keep my vote where it is for now.

EDIT: kurtis it doesn't matter what you were in the previous game. In every game you have an equal chance of being any role.


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JayoAie


Posted: 05:03AM Jun 15, 2013

kurtis626 wrote:
Now now. Why do I have two votes for me?

My argument as to why I am in fact human is this; I was a wolf the last game I played (jayo and stewie can confirm) and the chances of me being a wolf again are slim.



Gah!!! This is awful logic, the chances of you being the wolf before the start of the game is 20%, same as me or anyone else - many people use that argument and it doesn't hold water - that said I'm leaning human on you

Jboy or Cab look like decent shouts at this stage


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 05:29AM Jun 15, 2013

And now I am back before the round ends apologising for not getting on sooner. I appearently slept like 17 hours.. It feels really weird, I want for a nap at 6pm here. and only woke up at 11 the next morning. Iguess I was more tired thanI thought.

Anyway. Are we still piling the votes up on me?

Again sorry for missing most of the round.

Stewie.

PfS, I tossed out a random vote for cab.


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Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:34AM Jun 15, 2013

Jayo wrote:
kurtis626 wrote:
My argument as to why I am in fact human is this; I was a wolf the last game I played (jayo and stewie can confirm) and the chances of me being a wolf again are slim.

Jboy or Cab look like decent shouts at this stage

I always love that argument! I was a wolf I think 3 agames ina row, and the boss two games in a row. What are the odds?
I am surprise Kurtis would attempt that logic though - it is normally put out by newbies.


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jeminyten


Posted: 05:39AM Jun 15, 2013

I'm going to move my vote onto shaidar9haran because he hasn't posted yet and kurtis has. Of course, if he does come on (and I see it, obviously) I'll change my vote... again
Hopefully, next round the ID thing will help voting.

Voting shaidar9haran.


I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 07:33AM Jun 15, 2013

Wild vote changes all over the place.
IDK.......wished people would not even do the whole "I can not tell you how I know thing".
It always raises the cheating question.


Like what you love, and love what you got.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:55AM Jun 15, 2013

While it is not "cheating" to use inside information (I know it can't be Bill because he and I are actually friends and I know he is .....) it is a bit (in my opinion) unethical and unfair to the other players. I think if you know something you can't share than you should keep that information to yourself -to avoid the appearance of cheating.
I will trust that whatever information Freakshow has, he obtained fairly and leave it at that.


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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kurtis626A


Posted: 08:12AM Jun 15, 2013

HABS2933 wrote:
Jayo wrote:
kurtis626 wrote:
My argument as to why I am in fact human is this; I was a wolf the last game I played (jayo and stewie can confirm) and the chances of me being a wolf again are slim.

Jboy or Cab look like decent shouts at this stage

I always love that argument! I was a wolf I think 3 agames ina row, and the boss two games in a row. What are the odds?
I am surprise Kurtis would attempt that logic though - it is normally put out by newbies.


Well, I guess I'm the unlucky one. I've only been a wolf a few times out of all my games. So I see my logic is FAIL.


Treat others as you would like to be treated because that would make the world a better place to be. That is if you like to be treated with love and respect.
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J-Boy*za


Posted: 08:55AM Jun 15, 2013

Hahaha, it's ok Kurtis otherwise, to me jeminy seems a bit suspicious. Gut feeling mostly. I'll keep my vote where it is for now.

Fear is only as deep as the mind allows!
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EliosAus


Posted: 09:01AM Jun 15, 2013

Wow, I missed a lot of activity! I'm glad to see the votes on Kaipper have pretty much cleared off. I really chose her as a true SPV, and I would hate to see a repeat of last round (my random MoO SPV being used to get someone shot).

My two cents on the strange freak behavior: I don't think he's cheating. What I'm curious about is if he changed his vote around to purposefully get koin, or if he changed his vote around to save someone else... Kinda leaning towards the latter.

I'm going to leave my vote where it is on Kaipper this round. I don't really feel one way or the other about Stewie (err, his being a wolf; as a person, he's very nice!) so I'd rather not join the shooting this time. The vote is solidly on him, so mine's not needed anyway.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 09:25AM Jun 15, 2013

Good to see most of our inactives have made it back this round.

I'm going to keep my vote where it is. I know I said that last round but this time I mean it


Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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StewieGriffinie


Posted: 09:29AM Jun 15, 2013

I strongly urge those voting my to change their votes. Unless those who have put me in a majority are the wolves and/or WIHC. IDK, what I do know is that I am in a majority of the votes with little(if any) reason behind it.

I am not complaining. I am just putting the message out there. Once again if I don't make it, keep an eye on those in this majority. As at least one of those is likely to be a wolf.

Hopefully I shall see you next round. it`s also not too late to save me, though that entirely up to you...

Stewie.


Did you know: that the ocean holds nearly 20 million tons of gold but most of it is diluted. Each liter of seawater contains about 13 billionths of a gram. So there is enough gold on the sea floor to put 9 pounds in every pocket on Earth.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:36AM Jun 15, 2013

Elios wrote:
WMy two cents on the strange freak behavior: I don't think he's cheating.


Oh, I don't really either, If I really believed he was cheating I would not have smiley faced the question. I just figure he knows something that isn't his place to tell us, and is using that in his game play.

In addition to a few NOT SO EASY (but very solvable) clues next round to the identities, I am pretty sure the dead players are ready to speak.


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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shaidar9haran*us


Posted: 10:37AM Jun 15, 2013

Hey all sorry for missing the round went straight to a concert from work and couldn't log on last night. However, I really don't understand the stewie pileup if anything the people that are more suspicious are freakshow, as well as Elios and Cabaret who quickly jumped onto the Kurtis SPV. Not to mention those who jumped on Stewie for no apparent reason. The round is almost over so I'll vote to help stewie out or vote for freakshow who suspiciously broke the MoO at the last second. Even Kurtis's response to why he wasn't a wolf is more suspicious than Stewie just being absent from a round.
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