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The Werewolf Game #2929

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #5

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:58AM Jun 20, 2013

RFM

Poor Markus was eaten alive by the Black Beast of AAAARRGGHH. I have nothing else of relevance to say here, as life is generally unkind in the mornings.

Also, Happy Birthday Skybabe. And don't worry, turning 40 doesn't have to be a bad thing.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:59AM Jun 20, 2013

Thought Smithy would be eaten.....need to think in terms of pair analysis here

its strange that the Deb voters have been under the most scrutiny (and not targeted at night)


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 07:10AM Jun 20, 2013

Really!? Markus was a poor eating. I would have thought me or koin. At least it's narrowed the field.

Out right now, in unrelated news it's my birthday so might not be able to get on much.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:16AM Jun 20, 2013

You still feel strongly Chris is human? My thoughts are Chris/Chang right now pending review

oh and happy birthday


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changhill*us


Posted: 09:03AM Jun 20, 2013



Well if there are people here that won't follow spider, then I'll be around. These strings a shootings are just embarrassing.

Happy Birthday Skybet.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:09AM Jun 20, 2013

Embarrasing how?

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changhill*us


Posted: 09:12AM Jun 20, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
Embarrasing how?


Well if anyone can tell me what they 'learned' from UNC's reveal (other than that he was human) then I will retract my statement. And spider, if you attempt voting me there WILL be hell to pay.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:17AM Jun 20, 2013

It's tough to respect that statment when you didnt have the balls to post it last round when UNC's identity was up in the air, at least then it could be respected, instead of said in the absolute and utter safety after UNCs ID is known. You had your chance to critique the voting last round and this is all you could muster

The only reason I would discourage a UNC vote is that he hasn't had the opportunity to defend himself.


So don't talk in hindsight about how ridiculous it was when you made no such statement beforehand


if I logically conclude you are the best vote I will vote you without the slightest hesitation.


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changhill*us


Posted: 09:24AM Jun 20, 2013

I campaigned to throw myself into the mix, I was a better kill than UNC. And like I said in round 2, if you're gonna kill me, then fine justify it and I will be happy to oblige, not second to last round.

Second, even if I put up a "better" fight for UNC, it wasn't gonna happen. You're smart enough to notice trends. (Anytime my post are short and in black, I am probably in the hospital).

***IN SHORT***

Because of priorities, you've dropped down on the list. But you need to get your act together. Your wolf to human ratio is dropping


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 10:24AM Jun 20, 2013

You're not one to be talking chang, since you're batting a solid .000 this game

The eatings don't really make sense with spider as a wolf unless all his eating were overruled Dont think putter and markus would be at the top of his eating list.

A chris/chang combo makes sense I guess but smithy is still a very strong possibility here.


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changhill*us


Posted: 10:33AM Jun 20, 2013

I haven't been up to bat. None of the people I wanted shot are dead, most of my 'clears' are no longer here.

If I am protesting a human shotS, I really doubt that I am .000


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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 10:33AM Jun 20, 2013


Sky has lowered down in my list. I was hoping to possibly bait him some more by continuing, but I'm actually starting to lean more on human for him.

Something to note as well concerning Smit. I am referring to the night round where I believe it lasted longest in this game, and Smithy did say he came down with illness last round. Also, he hadn't given much reasoning to his vote for me last round.

I'm not sure on where to go yet so I'm reserving my vote for now.

EDIT: Something I forgot to mention:

I agree with Spid in that I thought Smit would have been eaten, and Markus wasn't a good choice, this raises my suspicion of Smit. I'm thinking of a possible Smit/chang.



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xxsoftballxx13xtus


Posted: 10:46AM Jun 20, 2013

Happy Birthday, Skybet!

I see there is some friendly/not-so-friendly arguing going on, and I don't really have any desire to join in it. However, I will post my thoughts and you may instigate the arguing.

I am not too surprised with the Markus eating. He wasn't really getting any heat and wasn't on anyone's major radar if I'm remembering correctly. (I apologize, I'm at Startalk and not very nifty with the iPads).

I think I would be more willing to vote chang if deb had not been a wolf because the way they interacted with each other doesn't really make any sense to me personally.

I am more inclined to go with my gut feeling of Chris, for reasons stated last round and mentioned by others, but I am going to wait until I get home tonight to vote and reread the rounds.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 11:25AM Jun 20, 2013

Cheers guys.

Already not in much of a state to do any sort of analysis today. On gut feeling, I would probably lean chang, but could be pursuaded into a Smithy or Chris vote.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 01:26PM Jun 20, 2013

Might be time to take a peak at some old Chang wolf games

I dont see any point in self voting

For Reference Games:

2358
2342
2299
2272
2265
2210
2033
1999

Only skimmed a couple, nothing jumped out on first view



I dont think Smithy's inactivity is in any way intentional obviously, Im just saying if a wolf he would make more effort because knowing him he wouldnt want to win this way, but thats the flip side of the coin, if he's sick he's sick so I dont know, maybe these few haphazard posts ARE his effort as a wolf to at least do something this game.

Ill develop some more thoughts in the next couple hours and try to firm up the pairs chart


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Smithy*en


Posted: 03:56PM Jun 20, 2013

Chang's goofy behaviour seems more like a human trying too hard to be "smart" than a wolf tactic, either way it's not helpful to whatever team he's on, there is never a situation when you should place yourself as a better suspect than anyone else, especially with no Seer to valiantly take a bullet for. But it definitely could go either way and I wouldn't be too opposed to a chang shooting. (Also calling a vote "embarassing" after not particularly opposing it before the result was known is, well, embarassing.)

I would think Chris is a good way to go if koin's got some vote history in his favour so voting accordingly, again apologies for low participation in this game but I'm glad people know it isn't related to my role.


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changhill*us


Posted: 05:05PM Jun 20, 2013

I am here, so it's not like I've left the game. And I haven't given up.

My behavior isn't goofy, maybe outside your comfort zone. You make it sounds like self-sacrifice is never justified, and about 95% of the time you're right. Just last game I 'faked' claim seer (but you know since you were there). You're smart, smithy, so you know I have about three 'realistic' approaches to take. Two of them include a self vote. To sum it up, people are too focused on me, I have nothing more to say in my defense than what I already have.

I am not calling just the one vote embarrassing, but the string of votes. (I'll admit that embarrassing is a strong word). To say that I didn't oppose the vote is false. I clearly stated how I felt about the vote. But the best person to defend UNC, was UNC. I was in no position to defend anyone (I've repeated said if my post are short and black then I am at the hospital).

Anyways I am here to help.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 05:11PM Jun 20, 2013

Happy bday sky

Don't have much to say unfortunately... I think chris will be shot this round and he is a good suspect so that's where my vote will go.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 05:12PM Jun 20, 2013

SNES run got in my way, gonna do my HW for this game now

noticing right away that PC kept himself out of two majorites in 1 and 2 on humans, voted koin to tie up Deb and only at the very end did he switch over. In round 4 he was compelled to vote for a human so nothing incriminating there, but it is odd that the sole majority he chose to join was on a wolf...digging deeper

edit: wait a sec, he said he was NOT going to tie up koin/deb so misrepresented that a bit

ROUND 1 NOTES (going through as methodically as possible

Eliminated Paris (Potentially)

Koin/Chang - Deb and Chang (under Debs 'orders') both voted Koin, Koin returned a random vote that tied Deb 2-2. It would be a little bit too brazen for the three wolves to put themselves in majorites so quickly

Smithy/Sky - Just a lot of banter between the two, and a direct "ill help you out" dialogue leads me to believe they are not a pair

ROUND 2 NOTES

Soft/Chang - Soft and Chang exchanged quite a bit of expository dialogue, further down the road Soft put Chang in a majority (although that included a Chang self vote) I am also reaffirming my initial position that Chang/Deb do not make sense as a pair, however i will still go through each pair individually if I see something

ROUND 3 NOTES

No Hard clears but two tentative pairings dont work imo

Sky/Koin - at one point the votes were 3-2 Koin over Deb which Sky noted while pushing a Deb vote. If it was wolf-wolf I dont see why Sky would really care who was in front (though the flip side is he prefered a 'seered' wolf shot over a free one) Also more banter between them later. Not 100% cleared but likely a safe non-pairing

Sky/Chris - I think Chris tends to severly overplay his hand as a wolf and thinks good play is suspecting fellow wolves moreso than neccessary. That being said, he seems too over the top persistent at it and Sky's responses seem genuine. This is a softer pair clearing but still feel good about pending round 4 stuff

ROUND 4 NOTES

Soft/Chris - With no seer Softball is very quick to jump on a Chris majority (2-1) possible, but I think quite unneccessary bus at the time, so not likely pairing imo

Chang/Sky - A lot of banter between the two, Chang places Sky near the bottom of his suspect list while Sky has Chang near the top of his. I think wolves like to keep each other in the middle-high range, but either way, their discussion does not seem like wolf-wolf talk. Furthermore, Sky deleted a post which he called a bit 'harsh' seemingly directed at Chang....does not seem like one would 'blow up' on a teamate unless severly provoked.

Chang/Smithy - This is the 'lightest' clear for a Chang pairing but Chang is fairly insistent in keeping Smithy at the very bottom of his suspect list, a carry over from him 'clearing' him in Round 3. I dont think they work together as a pair either

Still looking at some other pairings mainly centered around Chris....if my clearings are accuarate, Changs only possible partner would be Chris (Harry is a lot more reliable at this than I am ) so for the time being I am moving Chang far down my suspects list

ROUND 5 Notes

Not finding Smithy/Chris a likely pair (and I am softening on clearing Sky/Chris...perhaps) it is odd that Chris suddenly doesnt find Chris suspect and vice versa, as one of the biggest tells of a wolf is his suspects are usually those players most likely to be shot (he changed over to Chang for instance)....gonna sumarize my findings in a new post shortly


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:40PM Jun 20, 2013

Spider's Summary Findings (through 4.5 rounds )

Remaining Pairs to Consider

Chang/Chris

Smithy/Koin

Smithy/Soft

Koin/Soft

Koin/Chris (but now finding this potentially unlikely)

Soft/Sky

If you disagree with my evaluation or think I missed something Id love to hear about it


Now considering the eating pattern (especially Markus this round and considering who would want to see him eaten most of all)

This disturbs me as my top suspect (Chris) could then only be paired with my lowest suspect (Chang)...really confused by all of this now

if I filter out my own feelings on koin being cleared...I would be left with Chang/Chris (doubtful) Smithy/Soft Soft/Sky

I think I screwed up

entrusting the system, pending input (seriously Im very open to input) voting Softball

I will probably change my vote but does Chris look like he really has any partners (other than Chang)?


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:01PM Jun 20, 2013

Putter may be better than you at the pairing analysis but you're still far better than me

Smithy/chris is possible but kind of unlikely - I do like the softball vote (I never got that human read a lot of others did) but for now I will switch over to a neutral person.


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changhill*us


Posted: 07:03PM Jun 20, 2013

CP, is the only 'middle' roader we have left, besides possible smithy (who has risen up on suspicion only slightly). Sky is a bit is mixed in with my 'clears'.

So that leaves, koin, spider, sb. which the same grouping I had two round ago. I think I can agree with your logic from before that a koin/spider isn't plausible. But I am leaning sb/spider > koin/sb... sb being the common factor.

My main suspect against you is that despite how helpful you have been, your track record isn't what I'd expect from you. You seem to be providing an overload of information that has "muddied the water".

I am on board with a sb vote, but would like some more input from sky and smithy before I push anything.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:07PM Jun 20, 2013

Im confused - you have smithy and chris as "possibles" but the only options are among softball, me, and spid..?

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changhill*us


Posted: 07:09PM Jun 20, 2013

I am going to assume that you're talking to spider.

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:12PM Jun 20, 2013

I dont see the problem with my track record (this is also why the 'embarrasing comment was out of place)

Round 1 - crapshoot - shot human

Round 2 - was voting wolf - changed to inactive

I will say, as much as I hate using them, Har was VERY UNLIKELY to be a wolf based on short night, however since he hadnt posted/voted in round 2 I felt that had the night been normal or timed out I would have 100.00% voted him. Thus I couldnt use the "fruit of the poisonous tree" as I called it and vote someone knowing my only single motivation was time based ( which i have a LOOONG track record of despising)

Round 3 - voted wolf

Round 4 - voted human

Not First Balot hall of fame, but this track record is a typical wwg so not sure what you are/have been expecting


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:17PM Jun 20, 2013

Chang I was talking to you

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changhill*us


Posted: 07:20PM Jun 20, 2013

Well the 'embarrassing' part wasn't directed towards you. I was criticized last game for aiming at people that weren't my top suspicion list. This game people voted in hopes that they would 'learn', but never said what the turn would give evidence towards. This is a partial reason why I have my sights on sb.

Last game I didn't trust you or HP, and it took convincing from other's to convince me. I haven't really seen anyone defend you and your name is becoming more of a possibility.


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changhill*us


Posted: 07:24PM Jun 20, 2013

koin_era345 wrote:
Im confused - you have smithy and chris as "possibles" but the only options are among softball, me, and spid..?


Well if we weren't in the end game, then smithy, skybet, (but mainly CP) were people that I would be fine shooting. Hence my vote last round. None of the people I wanted shot were really taken out, so I am pretty much stuck in the same situation/thinking I was a couple rounds ago.

So I at this point I am going to have to play the odd's. Because I don't see a sky/smith pairing, both of them or even one might make me feel better about spider (who I would really like to clear like last round)


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:00PM Jun 20, 2013

Goikg to bed soon, debating whether I should switch to chris or softball...

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:12PM Jun 20, 2013

Now that I think about it, Chris called out his suspects of Chang, Deb and Spider based essentially on times (I call it log in time) knowing Deb is a wolf, it would be dubious to call out both wolves under this rationale, which would leave Chang/Chris as unlikely and thus the two of them nearly cleared??

at the same time I really really dont think Soft is a wolf so I will go through her posts...Ive rarely felt so lost in an endgame as I do here

we probably shouldnt leave all the Brits to the endgame next time


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:17PM Jun 20, 2013

How the heck can nobody be a wolf?

Whats the pair analysis with you in the mix spid?


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:24PM Jun 20, 2013

All Quiet on the Western Front

i think it just means someone has me completely fooled

Lets analyze Chris and the potential for each partner

Chris and Spider
- for me to be Chris' partner I would have had to call for a shooting of him in Round 3 when my other wolf partner Deb was in the crosshairs and you were also in the mix. It could be argued that I knew this desperate bid would come up short and that later if one of us was shot it could clear the other. This is a big gamble, a little too complex to be run at the spur of the moment when everyone was gunning for Deb and Chris was relatively safe. I also defended Chris in the final judgement Round 4 true...but this is all moot from my perspective as I know what I am

Chris and Smithy
-I think I made notes on Smithy and Chris' interactions throughout the game...I probably alluded to it above. Smithy hates bussing wolves, though he went coward mode last game but he has tried to shoot Chris twice. Might check round 3 really quick but dont think he said anything substantial about me suggesting a Chris vote

Chris and Sky
- this one has me puzzled, as I mentioned throughout, PC's theories about Sky are out there, even if Sky were to turn out wolf this is one of those a stopped clock is right twice kind of things and in no way validates the case PC made against him. I could see them possibly being partners if Chris again, waaaay overplayed the wolves have to suspect each other card (he got shot in Mario Party voting for another wolf instead if breaking a tie and saving himself) Then again, the interactions just dont seem like wolf-wolf between the two, though now that its in the endgame they have mutually dissapeared off eachothers suspect list....so they may remain a possibility...in the final analysis, I really dont think Sky is a wolf though

Chris and Koin
- I left this open but my rationale should have no effect on how you view this......for the others, I really don't know I think I had a reason but its late and I dont feel like digging it up now

Chris and Softball
-Softball has voted for Chris last two rounds and early too. Bussing a wolf quickly is fairly unneccessary unless she really really thought he was doomed, but I doubt that's the case

Chris and Chang
- this is probably the weakest connection, but as Chris alluded to 'login times' he suspected Deb, Chang and I. Knowing Deb is a wolf, it is a little too provocative to name both suspects for a 'valid' reason considering the possibility that we shoot A and then shoot B on the same rationale. An in the end, the post would do little if anything to clear him while at the same time incriminating both partners, seems a tad daring imo


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:39PM Jun 20, 2013

im not sure chris would try something so bold as moving the vote to his partner (sky) since day 1 on his first game back in a while. Chris/sky not a very likely pairing.

chris/chang already discounted for the reason said above.

chris/smithy is an interesting one, possible but unlikely based on this round and last round

I know im not a wolf and many people seem to have me cleared so I can guarantee its not chris/koin

Not seeing a softball/chris pairing.

Thinking spider is the best option if chris is a wolf.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:41PM Jun 20, 2013

I think I'll vote softball and call it a night.

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:42PM Jun 20, 2013

You really think the best option is a guy who out of the blue pushed for his shooting in Round 3

anyway, if my analysis is right Chris isnt a wolf anyway....but nothing is locked in place yet


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:45PM Jun 20, 2013

Too late for me now, but should we fail this round, I suggest someone post "Deb Lists" from games where she is a wolf and we can see what she says about her partners

and remember if we miss next round is must lynch so dont throw out a haphazard vote

I *will* be back on before end of round so can reevaluate the British comments and make a final decision

sorry softball convince me Im wrong please


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xxsoftballxx13xtus


Posted: 10:28PM Jun 20, 2013

Epically tired. But I'm going to give my opinion anyways.

Honestly, pairing is not my forte. I like to evaluate each player individually, but I realize that probably won't work in this game because the best chance of finding the most likely candidate of being a wolf is looking at the most likely pairings and such. Which you did, and somehow my name is at the top of the list.

I'm not entirely sure at this point whom I should be trusting and who my top suspects are because so much has happened in this game and I really don't have any idea what anyone is. My personal clear list is probably Spider and chang. Especially with the self-vote this round, chang has become my lowest suspect. I think that move is absolutely TOO risky when you're in the situation that we're in (potential must-lynch next round and without a seer). I said before that I thought Spider was a human, and I'll say it again. I haven't seen anything this round or any round in this game that gives me a wolfish vibe. True, he's experienced and a great player, but I just really don't think he's a wolf.

That leaves Smithy, Sky, koin, and chris.

Smithy has been quiet this round and last, but he's sick and I'll take his word for it, which is why I'm hesitant to use that as evidence against him. After reading through some of his posts, it seems like he was intent for the koin vote in round three instead of deb, which goes along with Spid's theory of him not liking to kill fellow wolves. However, he never voted that round. He advocated a koin vote, didn't act on it, and deb get shot. So I'm slightly interested in the possibility of a Smithy/Koin partnership. I believe he's played more with deb, so if it came down to saving deb and sacrificing chris, would he do it? This I don't know, but he kind of provoked the suspicion but never voted, you know?

Chris I still suspect for previously stated reasons and I honestly don't have a read on sky...

I am going to hold my vote until the end of the round, which I should be present for in the morning.

EDIT: Saw Spider's edit above mine. Was this convincing?


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:40PM Jun 20, 2013

Just letting you know I stuck around to get your feedback, Ill be back in the morning to finalize

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changhill*us


Posted: 10:43PM Jun 20, 2013

8 hrs... don't over sleep

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:55PM Jun 20, 2013

dont know what to make of Smithy (id be open to a smithy vote i think) sleeping on it

maybe no one seems like a wolf to me cause of of the wolves is laying low


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changhill*us


Posted: 01:33AM Jun 21, 2013

Well I guess not apologies, was hoping that people would be around, but guess not... logging in my vote. G' night yall.

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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 04:06AM Jun 21, 2013


I'm taking a backseat with Sky as I haven't been able to find anything stronger against him, if I'm correct about him, I will be quite annoyed.

I was thinking a Smithy vote for what I said earlier, but I'm still a little unsure about him though. Unfortunately he's unable to participate largely, and thats caused him to be quite quiet the last two rounds, but that could be a good reason for the vote, as this was the longest night we've had thus far.

I'm not so keen on the softball vote, at least not at the moment because I haven't analyzed her much this game. Also, concerning koin, I don't fully understand why you would be voting for softball rather than me when you thought I was the better shot - and with little reasoning at all on your part.

Another thing I have noticed is that there are three votes for softball in a round where it takes 4 votes to shoot the person. Could it be possible, (and this is JUST speculation), that the wolves have voted for softball and thats why with the voting list having 3 against softball, the round hasn't ended? Ofcourse, I understand it would be stupid to vote off the round without giving an explanation, but still, there could have been some form of reasoning against softball that would have justified the vote.





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Skybet*gb


Posted: 05:02AM Jun 21, 2013

Hungover.

I have read all of your posts, jolly good work from Spidleyboo. Apart from the Brit bashing, I didn't enjoy those bits.

I see the maj is on softball, I don't know her well, so I will trust you guys on this one.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 05:27AM Jun 21, 2013

switching off just till i get into work

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xxsoftballxx13xtus


Posted: 05:40AM Jun 21, 2013

I'm headed out for camp all day, and will try to check in once I get there and at the first break, but I don't know if I'll be able to.

Meanwhile, I will be logging in a vote for Smithy because of my reasoning above.


"I never stopped. It's still written in the scars on my heart."
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 05:54AM Jun 21, 2013

I have no idea what your point about "the round not ending" means Chris...why would 3 votes spontaneously cause the 4th to appear

Soft isnt gonna vote herself
You would know why you didnt vote Soft
Smithy hasnt been on
Sky was the only possible 'finishing vote' (though no longer..and I changed off within an hour of him posting)

so hardly means much


I will admit having an ally in Softball (if she is human) going forward may influence my decision here since if I am wrong I may be in deep trouble


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:00AM Jun 21, 2013

gonna see if i can find some old "Deb Lists" real quick

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Skybet*gb


Posted: 06:04AM Jun 21, 2013

Well this round has virtually convinced me of your humanity spid. And fair play if you have gone to all these lengths as a wolf, you deserve the win if that's the case

Sorry I've been little to no use this round. Because I trust you now, and I have little brain processing power right now, I will go with you whatever you decide.

Reading back that's pretty lame of me, but it is what it is.


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 06:05AM Jun 21, 2013

Hurry up though, I want to play some Theme Hospital.

We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:07AM Jun 21, 2013

Deb doesnt have any deb lists in the database (but that ends Jan of last year) so nothing there

I dont know I am thinking Softball, but I dont like being wrong about her

sorry Softball

(if softball is human Im gonna have to reevaluate every single concluson I've reached )


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 06:13AM Jun 21, 2013

Is softball only suspect from your pair analysis? She hasn't been vibing strongly either way to me, it seems a bit of a gamble. Sepends how much faith you have in your analysis.

To be fair, most shots are a bit of a gamble this round.

To go through each player again:

changhill - self vote seems human, but isn't motivated by winning the game anyway
koin_era345 - pretty much cleared by voting record, very doubtful he could be a wolf with deb
PianistChris - human vibes, actions too bold for a wolf
Smithy - laying low, but we all know this isn't his style, particularly if a wolf. RL circumstances are at play though, poor voting record
The_Spider - pretty convinced human
xxsoftballxx13x - made no impression either way, early deb voter


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:17AM Jun 21, 2013

I know something just doesnt fit this game, like someone didnt check their ID

I thought of you in passing, but this would have to be a masterful game....though if nothing else makes sense...still im a long way off from really considering you now


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 06:18AM Jun 21, 2013

I guess it depends what give you reason to clear someone. Each have their own flaws.

I will vote soft then if you have confidence in it. Lets hope that doesn't fire us into must lunch.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 06:19AM Jun 21, 2013

Ditto to you spidleyboo.

We can cross that bridge if we come to it.


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dfamina


Posted: 06:48AM Jun 21, 2013

This game has been a lot of fun to watch, and thus, to mod.

Unfortunately, all good things must end, and this game is now one step closer.

Softball was a Wolf. One to go. Good luck to all of you.
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