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The Werewolf Game #2929

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #7

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 01:54PM Jun 23, 2013

RFM

Alright then, here we are at the home stretch. Three is the number of players remaining, and the number of players remaining is three.

Good luck.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 01:58PM Jun 23, 2013

Waiting for mod post. Tough decision ahead.

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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 01:58PM Jun 23, 2013


... Okay - I was wrong about both Spider and Smithy.

I swear, if I was right about Sky I am going to have a small aneurysm form up.
I'm surprised I lasted this long considering the suspicion that surrounded me, but I think this last wolf thinks me an easy target this round because of it, and I will be watching out for that.

At the moment I'd go for koin over Sky, but this is because I have a more human feeling from Sky than koin, though I will check back in a while once I've looked around the past few rounds.



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koin_era345tus


Posted: 02:02PM Jun 23, 2013

Its a little odd that you've 360'd on sky. Your only evidence against him was a wolf feeling, but now you get the opposite vibe.

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Skybet*gb


Posted: 02:02PM Jun 23, 2013

Oh I didn't notice this had started

Wow, I didn't expect to be in this position...

I will go through the game and see what I come up with. But I thought both of you were definitely human


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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 02:06PM Jun 23, 2013


I explained myself last round about Sky. I had started on thinking him a wolf, but without the ability to gain more evidence and his posts have led me to believe him more as a human than wolf.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 02:08PM Jun 23, 2013

Koin went straight on the attack there... I was intrigued who would go for it first.

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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 02:15PM Jun 23, 2013


If I am right about my lasting this long being because I'm an easy target this game, then that puts koin on the spot for attacking first off. However at the same time, Sky might be trying to earn my trust by what he stated up there. This is confusing.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 02:19PM Jun 23, 2013

I don't think sky's post was an accusation, more just an observation. Maybe im reading it wrong.

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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 02:39PM Jun 23, 2013


This is a difficult end for this game. I didn't expect to be here, all I wanted was for the wolf's to die whether I'd be here or not - I wasn't expecting so many different inquisitions...


'NO BODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION'





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Skybet*gb


Posted: 02:46PM Jun 23, 2013

Just noting things as I go through the game. I think the best way I'm going to do this is by allocating points for game actions.

Round 1:

Koin:
Uses " " smiley with first post. That's usually a bad sign. (-1)
SPV'd deb. I find that wolves often SPV other wolves. (-1)
Avoided human majority (-1)

Chris:
Strangely suspicious of me right from the word go without reason (-1)
Avoided human majority (-1)

Koin (-3) Chris (-2)

Round 2:

Koin:
Names deb as suspicious but places random SPV instead (0)
Switches to deb soon after, early voter (+2)
States a wolf is likely to follow his own vote pattern - "ironically" (-1)
Series of diplomatic posts (-1)

Chris:
Names deb as a suspicion but continues to vote me (-1)
Later in the round continues attacking me and avoids majorities and doesn't even comment on them (-2)

Koin (-3) Chris (-5)

Round 3:

Koin:
Right off the bat, encourages deb vote (+2)
Competing majority to deb, unlikely to be wolf vs. wolf (+3)

Chris:
STILL persistent on me and avoids majorities, acting strangely (-2)
Switched to deb last minute (-1)

Koin (+2) Chris (-

Round 4:

Koin:
Subtly placing suspicion on chang while saying he will wait for others, wolfish post (-2)
Came back to try and get a chris vote going, fickle (-1)

Chris:
STILL voted me straight away even though I strongly encouraged deb shooting previous round (-1)
Trying to place suspicion on Spid with faulty logic (-1)
Softball places suspicion on him and tries to get votes going (+3)

Koin (-1) Chris (-7)

Round 5:

Koin:
Early mention of softball vote, then votes later (+2)

Chris:
Stated not keen on softball vote (-1)
Softball continues suspect chris and encourages votes (+4)

Koin (1) Chris (-4)

Round 6:

Koin:
Seems to hover over Spider and swings the axe just as he decides on human vote (-3)

Chris:
Not very active this round, just one early post with nothing of substance, lets round go the way it goes (-1)

Final scores - Koin (-2) Chris (-5)


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 02:52PM Jun 23, 2013

It seems Chris has done more to appear wolfish this game. The thing that's throwing me off is Softballs attempts to get him shot, in two successive rounds. She didn't seem the type to bus.

What I really need to decide is Koin an extremely aggressive busser, or is Chris acting purposefully suspicious to be above suspicion. He stated numerous times that he is "trying something new".


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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 02:53PM Jun 23, 2013


I'll admit I haven't played at my best or even averagely this game. I thought that I would go for a certain strategy to go for whatever I saw first, and continue to build on it, but that failed badly and now that I notice it was quite idiotic.

I'm still unsure of who to go for. Sky hasn't given much of anything solid this game as with koin, though koin was more 'shot' at than Sky, save for my accusations. May end up going for koin.


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 03:03PM Jun 23, 2013

If Koin is the wolf he has been remarkably ruthless but your post seems human...

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 03:06PM Jun 23, 2013

Round 1:
SKY
- Gets a couple votes and starts to get worried. Not sure what I should be interpreting from this, but he does start the vote on coolnine from what I can tell.

CHRIS
- Spider and Smithy note something off about chris's post. Neither deb nor softball (who both post right after spid and smithy) acknowledge this.
- Talks about a very early suspicion of sky. Seems human to be honest - it would be more like a wolf to lay low and not name a suspect that early on.

KOIN
- There's some interesting voting at the beginning of the round. Deb votes for spider, chang follows. Deb realizes spid is in a majority and switches over to me (for my 2nd vote). I put her in a competing majority. At least thats what it looks like to me, it was a very confusing round 1. But as I see it there is very unnecessary wolf partner voting if I am a wolf.

Round 2:
SKY
- Interesting post in round 2:
I have only played with chang once a while back, and that was only a 10 player game, so I have no idea on his character. I don't really know how to react to his play at the moment it's clear it's irritating deb a bit, perhaps because it's exposing them/her? I think it's probably worth a punt on either player at this stage, but it's just one of those situations where it just feels too obvious.

Basically calling out deb for her reaction, which was a main reason she ended up getting shot. He retracts on it a little at the end, although this is pretty good favor for sky.
- Later in the round stays very accusing of deb, but never votes her.

CHRIS
- Fighting with sky. Posts are very strange this round.
- Unimportant voting, never joins in a majority.

KOIN
- I think second vote for deb this round. Multiple options for a vote on the table, yet I voted for a wolf.
- Stayed away from the phant majority.


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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 03:31PM Jun 23, 2013


Right, lets see here

Sky:

Noted in round 3, Deb was top of the list as a wolf for Sky and at this point I don't think would have bussed deb, least not until later when votes for her became more aggressive.

Though my thoughts on Sky being a wolf early on was 'out-there', I still find it a bad point that Sky ignored my post till I mentioned his ignorance later on.

Later in the stage you revealed that the seer was intent on a deb vote, this could actually be a good reason why Sky would bus Deb.

^ I think that speaks for itself.


Sky's reaction to Deb's bland defense for herself seemed quite direct towards her and because of that it lessens my suspicion of him, I'd think if he were to attack Deb he would be less direct.

Softball, the other known wolf, was lowest on Sky's list and this could cause suspicion, however there wasn't much to go on softball at the time - this is a meer observation.

Sky thought me to be human at one time

Sky reacted quite largely to the poor eating of Markus; 'Really!? Markus was a poor eating'. This was the more aggravated post towards the eating and could be self-induced in the sense that the poor eating could be a ploy to make Sky seem more human by his disapproval.

When the votes went towards softball, Sky mentioned there was no impression that she was a wolf to him, and voted for soft without any reason other than to join in the votes.

Sky helped push the votes for Smit.

He gave some info on softs post, stating she was trying to clear me, but didn't give anything when he voted for her.

My thoughts on Sky are clouded, but I could agree to a shot at him if there were something stronger that I missed.

Koin:

Didn't give off much for me during the earlier rounds, standard posts, though I've noted some of the things that Sky has mentioned.

The vote for Deb early on makes me think he has more skin than fur, as deb wasn't firmly under the bus till a while later, and this early bus seemed illogical.

In round 3 he mentioned that he wasn't sure of who to vote for, that would appear wolfish to me, but he did state that deb should be shot which then appears human to me.

Deb retaliated by voting for koin and stating that she was suspicious of him, with this in mind I'd give more thought to koin being human.

His three thoughts of who could be wolves; 'chang, chris, unc' were all wrong. This leads me to thinking wolf.


Although chris has been kind of all over the place, it seems normal for some reason



Not much to say in round 5 here that wasn't already mentioned.

If koin is a wolf, then the Spider shot would have been ideal as I illogically voted for Sky in earlier rounds, and as mentioned earlier, you attacked me, lightly, about my 360 with Sky - could this be a set up to get me shot?

After analyzing both, its clear to say that I am baffled, I thought koin would lean more towards wolf but I'm at the middle now, koins post just don't seem that wolfish to me, but at the same time Sky is giving of a human vibe.


EDIT: Forgot my colors :p


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 03:38PM Jun 23, 2013

Chris is coming off more human so far. Two main points were koin's early subtle attack of chris, and the fact he's including a defence of himself in his round analysis... this just feels unnecessary. In my eyes, since I know I'm human, I needn't consider including myself in the analysis, so I find it interesting that he did. Going on gut, I'm leaning koin.

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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 03:56PM Jun 23, 2013


Right.

I believe koin to be the better wolf out of the two. I hope I am correct and will not be attack Sky when I see him next, but for my fellow humans, THIS IS THE END OF OUR SUFFERING!


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 03:57PM Jun 23, 2013



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