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The Werewolf Game #2940

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  

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ShadowsAca


Posted: 09:10PM Jul 23, 2013

RFM Thanks, Shadows!


Round 2 Challenge
A Simple Question

What's squared away on a summer's day when somebody joined Braingle?


Hint 1: When I was young, I wanted to be a somebody; at least I can be friends with one!
Hint 2: Think outside the box? Nah! Think outside the hemisphere!
Hint 3: All the words within a word are three letters.
Bone Toss: Simple questions have simple answers - as easy as ABC

The randomly selected Scapegoat for this round is talanpoe.
Talanpoe, please cast your vote for yourself now. If you earn - or are extended - the right to vote, you may change it.

Other players are not allowed to vote for talanpoe until/unless he is able to change his vote!



Reveal: TanCW was human. 4 wolves and the seer remain in the game.


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ShadowsAca


Posted: 09:12PM Jul 23, 2013

If anyone would like to share a few spoilers about this latest challenge, I certainly would not mind.
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 09:12PM Jul 23, 2013

has anyone made any progress with the new challenge?

this isnt where i parked my car
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debc1A


Posted: 09:27PM Jul 23, 2013

i am here and yes clueless

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mocha613Aus


Posted: 09:46PM Jul 23, 2013

Started looking at it but currently at a wall.

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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sonic102cin


Posted: 10:36PM Jul 23, 2013

To square away means to be prepared.

That's all I could find.


Play my game "Alliances"! PM me!
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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 10:41PM Jul 23, 2013

I sent my options in and both answers were incorrect so I am at a dead end as well.

*vampscholar*
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sonic102cin


Posted: 11:27PM Jul 23, 2013

I remember Shakespeare.

Play my game "Alliances"! PM me!
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 11:28PM Jul 23, 2013

I think maybe that it is an event that happened on a certain day and we got to find a join date that is in summer. I think it would be one of our join dates but I guess it wouldn't have to be. The summer could be talking about either the northern or southern summer which are at different times. Northern hemispheres summer is June 20 - September 23 and southern hemisphere summer is mid December to mid march.

I'm back
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 12:46AM Jul 24, 2013

today is the 5 year anniversary of the summer day that i joined braingle!

this isnt where i parked my car
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 01:01AM Jul 24, 2013

Congrats, unc!

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:43AM Jul 24, 2013

haven't got to working on this clue as yet as i haven't been able to get enough online time today. will try to get to it later on.
has the challenge got something to do with unc?


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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LanceKolaskiAus


Posted: 01:52AM Jul 24, 2013

The clue still has me lost. Hoping the mod will post soon.
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dfamina


Posted: 03:44AM Jul 24, 2013

Casting my SPV for now.
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buu441Ain


Posted: 04:43AM Jul 24, 2013

did you earn the right to vote already??

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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Gizzer


Posted: 04:52AM Jul 24, 2013

Post is up, including a hint.
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 05:09AM Jul 24, 2013

SPVing for someone.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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EliosAus


Posted: 08:47AM Jul 24, 2013

I had pretty much the same impression as Kal: finding a join date that corresponds with something that was completed. That's a huge pool of events.

The hint sounds like a quote... I'm coming up with Althea Gibson (autobiography, "I Always Wanted to Be Somebody") and Lily Tomlin ("I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific").

I'll keep poking around.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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debc1A


Posted: 09:17AM Jul 24, 2013

i am still here

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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:10AM Jul 24, 2013

So what happens now that two players voted without solving the challenge?

Okay SO~ since people had been mentioning it, here is a list of all the players in this game (+ mod) and their join date:

Gizzer - Jul 11, 2002

21kaldridge21 - Jan 18, 2011
buu441 o Nov 26, 2011
debc1 Dec 06, 2005
dfamina Jun 15, 2005
Elios Sep 24, 2008
freakshow07 Nov 02, 2006
jpost Jun 26, 2008
kmrutledge Aug 31, 2012
KRUGERGIRL14 May 15, 2009
LanceKolaski Mar 30, 2008
Limerick Aug 18, 2009
mocha613 Mar 10, 2007
Shadows Sep 15, 2008
sonic102 Aug 11, 2012
talanpoe Apr 13, 2007
TanCW Jun 07, 2006
tukuwakatiki Feb 06, 2006
unctarheel Jul 24, 2008
WittyKitty Jul 20, 2005
Yuffie Oct 30, 2008

Not sure how much we're supposed to be working together (versus our Talkboxes) but I DO have to point out something Gizzer said back in Round 0:

July 4th:

I have challenges for the first 6 rounds ready to go. I'll need 3 more in case the game goes the full 9 rounds.

*note - this was before I joined & I was the 10th player to join, so the game wasn't even half filled*

July 9th:
I've got challenges for all 9 possible rounds ready to go!


So... I'm pretty sure, since Gizzer already has these challenges thought up, that they have nothing to do with us specifically (the players in the game). Although Gizzer's Join date is in the Summer & she's the only one she could guarantee would be in this game...
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buu441Ain


Posted: 10:21AM Jul 24, 2013

say for gizzer, 11-7=4 is a square number. 11 from the join date, 7 from the month july. think it'll work?

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 10:58AM Jul 24, 2013

somebody

i think the hint is alluding to this person, since gizzer is friends with him


this isnt where i parked my car
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:17AM Jul 24, 2013

I was thinking it might allude to a "Somebody" as well, but that specific one joined in December, which is not Summer in any Hemisphere. It does match the hint (Gizzer being friends with a Somebody) but there's absolutely no information on somebody(the username) and the join date of Dec 20th 2004 doesn't bring up any major events that I can find (Wikipedia lists a few things that happened that day, but nothing stands out).

Somebody2 joined August 20th, 2005 and the Avatar is what looks like the Sun popping out of some flowers. She also lives in Canada, so August would be considered Summer there. In August 20, 2005 Canada becomes the fourth country in the world to legalize same sex marriages, but other than that no other significant .Event


I've been thinking more on the fact that it's a simple question. Therefore, the what that is being squared away when someone joins Braingle is *Highlight White Text for my theory* An identity; you need a Username and a Password to sign up for Braingle. Therefore, you "square away" your Identity to play games (which is often associated with "Summer fun") Probably not at all correct, but I've already submitted this theory just to check


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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 11:20AM Jul 24, 2013

So, maybe this doesn't matter much, but I was wondering: who switched their vote to jpost last round to end it? I was on literally 15 minutes later to log my vote. Might I point out that the only reason I could see an individual doing this would be to A) ensure that jpost was shot (but he was already in a huge majority) and B) to prevent the final person from voting. The only reason anyone would want to prevent each person from voting in Round 1 would be wolf-ish in nature (decreasing the possibility of the seer logging a vote, even if by a small margin).

I am going to see if I can figure out who changed their vote.

EDIT: It appears that Yuffie ended the round. Tan mentioned that 17 people had voted and the next two people to vote could end the round if both voted for jpost. I don't know why Tan would want the round to end before everyone got a chance to vote, but that is a moot point now, I suppose. Deb then got on and voted for jpost. Yuffie was the next one to post (and I'm guessing vote as well), and she logged a vote for jpost thinking that I would be able to come on and finish off the round with a vote for jpost. The only problem at this point was that deb had created a 10-vote majority on jpost, and Yuffie's vote created 11 for jpost, which was the amount needed to end the round. Could've just been bad math, but I'll see if Yuffie has anything to say.

EDIT 2: Just saw that Yuffie posted right after me.


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Baila como si nadie está mirando.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:27AM Jul 24, 2013

It was me, WittyKitty - I didn't take into account that there was a 10th vote on Jpost, so I thought there needed to be 2 votes on him & the only people who didn't vote were you and Jpost (who didn't look like he was coming on). It was an accident; I didn't mean to take away your chance to vote - I honestly didn't think it would end the game. You can see my thoughts posted last round to see I wasn't thinking it would end the round. Again, I'm sorry, but I didn't mean anything by it.

Edit to quote myself:

Wait... we have 18 votes and JPost is the inactive who we're all voting for so... I'll switch my vote now, so that when WittyBitty does come on, she'll end the round ^_^


LOL Edit again to respond to your edit = it was bad math. We had 12hrs left in the game & nothing more to go on, I'm pretty sure it was unanimous that all players wanted the round to end early. I didn't count DebC's vote, so I thought there were 2 left.

I can understand why you're upset that you weren't allowed to vote & I already apologized, but I really think you're trying to read too much into this. I already stated I wanted to vote for JPost b/c he was an inactive but I was holding out for everyone to vote. Then I thought I that we were waiting for JPost to essentially vote for himself to end the round, so w/o much thinking, I attempted to put the majority at 10, so you could be the 11th.

Literally, there's nothing more to it.


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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 11:31AM Jul 24, 2013

Yuffie, that's okay. No hard feelings. I just found it odd that the round ended right before I had the chance to vote. I know that it's sometimes easy to miscalculate in this game. Just figured I should follow up on any leads we had, though.

Baila como si nadie está mirando.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:36AM Jul 24, 2013

Okay good It's good to point out all possibilities, so I understand. I just felt bad last night when the round ended, so I wanted to make it known that it was a stupid accident on my part
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 12:47PM Jul 24, 2013

Actually summer in the southern hemisphere is in December and goes til march. When it is summer in one hemisphere it is winter in the other.

I'm back
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 12:48PM Jul 24, 2013

Dear people who have voted: any hints?

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Gizzer


Posted: 01:49PM Jul 24, 2013

Yuffie wrote:
So what happens now that two players voted without solving the challenge?


The votes are legal.
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dfamina


Posted: 01:49PM Jul 24, 2013

Yuffie wrote:
So what happens now that two players voted without solving the challenge?


Miss Yuffie, I just want to inform the class that our team has indeed solved the challenge.

Edit: Guess Giz was already on that one. I didn't want to delete my post after seeing it because that tends to draw suspicion.


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sonic102cin


Posted: 02:21PM Jul 24, 2013

I have an idea: Only two people should ever vote in each round, and they both should only vote for who us, as a majority think we should vote for.

So if the wolf does eat, we know who atleast one wolf is.


Play my game "Alliances"! PM me!
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YuffieAus


Posted: 02:51PM Jul 24, 2013

dfamina wrote:
Miss Yuffie, I just want to inform the class that our team has indeed solved the challenge.


Just so you know, your response sounds kinda snotty. Buu441 already asked you directly if you'd earned the right to vote & both you and kmrutledge ignored the question. Neither of you have even bothered to help "the class" so excuse me for asking the Moderator if you voted in error (which I almost did out of habit in Round 1).

I still find the question relevant: if someone forgets the rules & votes, is there a "backup plan" in place?


I have an idea: Only two people should ever vote in each round... So if the wolf does eat, we know who at least one wolf is


It is a good idea in theory, but I'm wary of relying on two people to vote the way the group wants & not how the individual wants (or being active enough to change their vote, if that's what the group wants). There'd also be no way to prove that night timing out wasn't the wolves refusing to eat but rather just 2 humans earning the right to vote.

For everyone else still trying to solve the clue, I got a response back for my theory:
Gizzer responded: Not completely wrong; the answer does relate to an identity
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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 02:52PM Jul 24, 2013

Sorry Sonic, but I don't think that would work as we have more players that they can choose from to eat. This would take suspicion off of any of the wolves as the votes that went towards them, the wolves could use to their advantage and choose someone random as us humans can't see their votes until the following day when we see who is eaten.

*vampscholar*
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Limerickus


Posted: 02:53PM Jul 24, 2013

That doesn't work unfortunately. If none of the wolves vote, the eating still happens, it just is totally at random.

As of right now, I don't have an answer for this challenge. What I can say is I can confirm that the somebody UNC mentioned above is indeed the correct somebody. Also, although he has been a member since Dec 20, 2004 which indeed is not summer in either hemisphere (Summer starts in the Southern Hemisphere on the Winter Solstice, which, per http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/equinox.html, was 7:42am EDT, December 21st, 2004, and ends in the Northern Hemisphere on the Autumnal Equinox, 12:30pm EDT, September 22, 2004). That said, his last login on Braingle was 2861 days ago, which, by manual calculation and later confirmed by http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html, means the last time he joined Braingle was September 23rd, 2005. The Autumnal Equinox was 6:23 PM EDT, September 22nd, 2005. Now, assuming that Braingle's timer hasn't yet counted to the 2862nd day simply because the full 24 hours has not elapsed, this would put his last login on the last day of summer in the Northern Hemisphere, September 22nd, 2005, making this date valid in context. That said, the concepts of summer being squared away (finished), the sun being squared away (at a right angle to the earth by the astronomical definition of the equinox), or the day and nights being squared away (even and equal in length per the equinox), have all been rejected. So, if this is related, I have no idea. As far as world news on this date or national news... There is next to nothing I can find of significance.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 02:58PM Jul 24, 2013

(Post erased for being a Double-post)

Limerick wrote:
If none of the wolves vote, the eating still happens, it just is totally at random.


It's been somewhat "confirmed" that the random-eating happens alphabetically.
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 03:00PM Jul 24, 2013

Plus sonic there is a human that is choosen by the mod and is considered the sacrificial lamb incase the wolves don't get to vote.

I'm back
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dfamina


Posted: 03:08PM Jul 24, 2013

Yuffie wrote:
Just so you know, your response sounds kinda snotty. Buu441 already asked you directly if you'd earned the right to vote & both you and kmrutledge ignored the question. Neither of you have even bothered to help "the class" so excuse me for asking the Moderator if you voted in error (which I almost did out of habit in Round 1).


I'm not trying to start any trouble here; in fact, my statement was worded the way it was to have the opposite effect. I suppose I need to work on that. At any rate, I apologize for the way it sounded. I've been very tired today and it didn't quite come out with the tone I had intended. I guess I was a bit incensed that you thought that I would ignore the rules like that, but I realized afterward that you've never played with me before. Just a simple misunderstanding.

And buu, I apologize for ignoring your question. It was early when I first voted/read it, and I had meant to come back to it later, but I simply forgot. (I checked into the game when I first got to work, and didn't have a lot of time to devote to it.)

Now, I'm not very good with hints, but I think I have one that will help somewhat, and won't give too much away. The summer referred to by the challenge is in fact, the Summer that begins in June and ends in September.

May not be much, but it should narrow down the options a bit. I'll see if I can't come up with another one that's at least halfway decent.


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Gizzer


Posted: 03:17PM Jul 24, 2013

Yuffie wrote:
I still find the question relevant: if someone forgets the rules & votes, is there a "backup plan" in place?


That's a good question.

If a player votes illegally, I will step in as appropriate. The problem may resolve itself before the end of the round, if the player voting illegally earns or is extended the right to vote. If not, and the game is adversely affected, I would help out the non-offending players. For instance, if it is a wolf that breaks the rules, I might provide wolf clues. If a human broke the rules, I might provide a seer clue.

However, this is a good group of players, and I don't expect there to be any problems.
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Limerickus


Posted: 03:22PM Jul 24, 2013

Okay, well, still at a loss for the moment. Narrowing this down to the northern hemisphere summer still leaves me with September 22nd, 2005 as being my best "lead" so far. Now, I have had a further speculation eliminated as well As mentioned, somebody has no real history, no brain teasers, no forum posts, very little in the way of high scores. He did however win one game of chess in summer, and as Chess is a game of squares... But in any rate, this game is unrelated.

Also, no significant events in Braingle's update history, was hoping Chess/Checkers, something related would show up as being added on those dates, but nope.

ETA: Seems likely to be further of significance though I have no clue how exactly this is linked, if at all...

The challenge title, "A Simple Question" was also the title of this teaser by bigSWAFF_69_. Also, the first search result for "somebody" if you search using the box at the bottom is this teaser also by bigSWAFF_69_ which seems far too much of a coincidence. Gizzer often refers back to the teasers in some form. But, other than the title, "Somebody is Nobody, But Who is Everyone?" I cannot find a link. At any rate, more to consider.


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ShadowsAca


Posted: 03:37PM Jul 24, 2013

Gizzer says it's an event that happened on Braingle.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 03:39PM Jul 24, 2013

EDIT: Ack, everyone keeps editing their posts & making my post invalid! XD I'm glad to be playing with such active players though!

So What was squared away on Braingle, on a summer's day in Dec 20, 2004? XD

Maybe it means the Summer of 2005? Because Somebody joined in December of 2004, so what was squared away in the Summer's day, now that Somebody is a player on Braingle?

Hmm, but see that confuses me b/c our TB submitted some information via the Updates page & Gizzer said that it was "too complicated for a simple question!"

So maybe Limerick is right & it's the Teaser "A Simple Question"? bigSWAFF_69_ joined Mar 24, 2005 but that's not quite Summer... Maybe the answer is just "yes'?


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debc1A


Posted: 03:51PM Jul 24, 2013

maybe a game was introduced?

i don't think it is a person, correct?


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Limerickus


Posted: 03:53PM Jul 24, 2013

Haha, I was thinking the same thing actually, Yuffie, based on the original simple question being a yes/no, but... I dunno, I feel like I am missing something...
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debc1A


Posted: 03:58PM Jul 24, 2013

i don't get that that was a yes or no answer
more of a what


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Gizzer


Posted: 04:26PM Jul 24, 2013

I've posted another hint, a little earlier than I planned, but I have to head out for a bit.

Very quickly, I want to clarify that kaldridge is correct: summer starts in the southern hemisphere on December 1. The solstice information that Limerick gave is also correct, and is used in the northern hemisphere, but not the southern hemisphere.

Actually, as I understand it, the solstice is really the middle of the season, not the start.
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debc1A


Posted: 04:33PM Jul 24, 2013

df, km - karma

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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 04:48PM Jul 24, 2013

Shadows wrote:
Gizzer says it's an event that happened on Braingle.


When did she say that?


Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 05:21PM Jul 24, 2013

I believe talanpoe is the only one who has not posted or been on today, but since he is the scapegoat, he is currently invulnerable.

So, I will be casting a vote for debc1. She seems a bit edgy. I could be misunderstanding/misreading her posts, but for now, that is where my vote will lie.


Baila como si nadie está mirando.
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 06:59PM Jul 24, 2013

my answers of "a chess game" and "yes" were just shot down

this isnt where i parked my car
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 08:07PM Jul 24, 2013

to those who've solved it, does 'squared away' have anything to do with squared numbers?

this isnt where i parked my car
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dfamina


Posted: 08:41PM Jul 24, 2013

That was my first angle, too, but it's not a number.
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talanpoeAus


Posted: 08:51PM Jul 24, 2013

I am here and have voted myself as directed. Hopefully it won't have to stay there too long....

Unless life also hands you sugar and water, your lemonade is going to suck!
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Gizzer


Posted: 08:54PM Jul 24, 2013

Thank you, talanpoe.


I'm heading off to bed shortly, and I'll post another hint in the morning. There's still 24 hours left in the voting period. (Now you know why I made it a 2-day day!)
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 11:06PM Jul 24, 2013

freakshow07 wrote:
Shadows wrote:
Gizzer says it's an event that happened on Braingle.


When did she say that?


via PM; I guessed Disco
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freakshow07Aus


Posted: 12:21AM Jul 25, 2013

I'm assuming you mean the game.

Shoot me I'm probably a wolf. Especially if caberet is the Mod.
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Gizzer


Posted: 04:28AM Jul 25, 2013

Good morning!

Your new hint is posted. I hope it's not too unusual.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 08:43AM Jul 25, 2013

All the words within a word are three letters.


So, does this mean the answer is a 9 letter word & 3 words can be found within this one word? Hmm...

Edit to disagree with myself. it didn't say how many 3-letter words were within the word.


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ShadowsAca


Posted: 11:41AM Jul 25, 2013

Voted for freak.
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debc1A


Posted: 11:47AM Jul 25, 2013

morning
i am still here


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YuffieAus


Posted: 12:06PM Jul 25, 2013

So... why are there two votes on Freakshow07?
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dfamina


Posted: 12:12PM Jul 25, 2013

I was wondering the same thing. I dread these situations; no wolf leads or even slight suspicions, and no inactives.

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mocha613Aus


Posted: 01:00PM Jul 25, 2013

It could be that one is human and the other, a wolf, jumped on to make a majority for a human...

Or they could be in a group and discussed who they wanted to get rid of, making sure to have a majority so none of them get eliminated.

Or, they could be in a group with the seer and either they are voting for a divined wolf or they are voting for an unknown because a divined human has been also voted for.


"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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LanceKolaskiAus


Posted: 01:51PM Jul 25, 2013

My brain is going in circles... I may be a good strategist for werewolf games sometimes, but I am most certainly not good at figuring out these sort of clues. I could just be too lazy... hence my new avatar for those of you who know Shikamaru. So yeah... I'm lost. Got lost somewhere back at the Solstice or whatever.
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debc1A


Posted: 01:56PM Jul 25, 2013

can't help you bud, i have no clue about the clues

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YuffieAus


Posted: 02:00PM Jul 25, 2013

mocha613 wrote:
It could be that one is human and the other, a wolf, jumped on to make a majority for a human...


That might be possible - Krugergirl never posted & someone is voting for her; maybe Shadows voted for Freakshow07 first and then Kruger jumped on it.

Or they could be in a group and discussed who they wanted to get rid of


Also true; they seemed to have voted at the same time, so it stands to reason Shadows & Kruger are in the same talkbox. But why plan against someone so early on?

Or, they could be in a group with the seer


True, but there's no way the Seer could've divined everyone in their talkbox to know they were all humans. I literally was the seer in my last game & I divined everyone but one person before I came out in the talkbox. Ironically, the only one I didn't divine was a wolf but was inactive. Anyway, what I mean is, it's way too risky to "come out" so early on in the game - especially if they only divined a human.

I guess we'll know by next round, if this is the case (if we only have 3 wolves left, then Freak was a wolf).

Unless one of them just wasn't paying attention and SPVed without realizing someone was already voting for Freakshow. Which is probably the case, but seems a bit odd since only 6 people have voted so far.
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 02:11PM Jul 25, 2013

I have been trying to figure out the clues off and on but it is hard since I am taking care of my niece and needing something every ten minutes.

I'm back
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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 02:16PM Jul 25, 2013

Kruger voted before Shadows. This I know because I check in on the game from time to time. I don't know why she voted for freak because she didn't post any reasons. Shadows voted after Kruger for freak. Again, though, no explanation, but she did not say that it was a random vote or SPV, which leads me to believe she knew it would put freak in a majority.

As for Mochs and Yuffie's back-and-forth, I kinda doubt it. Yes, it would be risky for the seer to reveal oneself to their talkbox. I can think of instances when it would be helpful, but Round 2 isn't all that helpful. Later on, though, if a seer is in a talkbox with 3 or 4 people, I could definitely understand a seer telling their group X is a wolf and Y is a human. Then, if the seer gets eaten overnight, the probability of one of their talkbox inhabitants being a wolf would be rather high. Others in the talkbox could then divulge information to those in the game. As I said, though, I don't think that'd be very helpful so early on.

Shadows and Kruger, could you explain why you chose to vote for freak?


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sonic102cin


Posted: 02:18PM Jul 25, 2013

Let's shoot KRUGER next round, eh? As per your theory.

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dfamina


Posted: 02:27PM Jul 25, 2013

I'm thinking there's a motive in voting for Freak. I've been checking periodically throughout the day, and Kruger cast her vote first, then Shadow came after. Since I agree with what you said about the Seer, Yuffie, I'm inclined to think that either Shadows is a wolf, or she somehow missed Kruger's vote.

There's also the possibility (albeit VERY slim) that the Seer's TB has just two people in it; I've learned that not every team has the same number of people in it. It can be anywhere between 2 and 6, as stated in Round 0. So perhaps (again, unlikely) that TB has just the Seer and one divined human. That would give the Seer a pretty big advantage - someone to protect you early on, and even to claim Seer to give the real Seer an extra round. Although... that wouldn't explain the pile on Freak, and a strategy such as this so early in the game is going to draw some attention, especially with no leads.

I don't know, I suppose I'm just thinking out loud here. I've learned not to discount anything.

Edit: Witty posted while I was writing this, hence the repetition of the voting order. Also, for future reference, I'll edit my posts sometimes if I find a spelling error or if I feel I worded something poorly.


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YuffieAus


Posted: 02:32PM Jul 25, 2013

sonic102 wrote:
Let's shoot KRUGER next round, eh? As per your theory.


Mm, my theory kinda flopped - Kruger voted first, so Shadows made the "majority".

dfamina wrote:
I'm inclined to think that either Shadows is a wolf, or she somehow missed Kruger's vote.


Yes, but unless they are both wolves, there'd be no reason for Shadows to "protect" Kruger this way. It's most likely just a misunderstanding (Shadows didn't realize anyone had voted for Freak or something).

There's also the possibility (albeit VERY slim) ... that TB has just the Seer and one divined human.


This shouldn't be discredited but even if this is the case, the Seer would have only been able to divine their partner (as you said).


We shouldn't ignore this, but it's probably just an over-sight. The other way around, it would've made sense, but with Shadows voting second... I suppose she could be a wolf & Kruger human, assuming one of the others who has a vote on them is a wolf & she's trying to protect them...
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sonic102cin


Posted: 02:40PM Jul 25, 2013

Or Shadows.

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dfamina


Posted: 02:52PM Jul 25, 2013

I would've figured that Shadows was just piling onto a human vote, rather than protecting Kruger. But anyone who's played WWG more than once or twice knows that piling this early with no explanation from either voter is definitely not a good idea, regardless of role. Even if they're both human, it doesn't look good. I guess we'll have a little something to go on once we find out Freak's identity.

What throws me off in particular is the way Shadows voted. If she's is a wolf, she could have piled onto any human vote, unless (and this would be pretty funny) the three of us who had already voted - not counting talanpoe - were voting for the other three wolves purely by chance. But Shadows chose to vote right after Kruger, and for the same person. It was long enough that they didn't vote at the exact same time. I feel like there's an explanation just barely outside of my grasp, because I highly doubt it's just a matter of Shadows having missed the other vote. A wolf-pile just seems too obvious.


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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 06:06PM Jul 25, 2013

What is a wolf pile?

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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 07:16PM Jul 25, 2013

A wolf pile is when wolves create a majority. Kruger, why did you vote freak?

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Gizzer


Posted: 07:23PM Jul 25, 2013

I've tossed a bone.
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Limerickus


Posted: 08:43PM Jul 25, 2013

My post earlier decided to disappear, well, I have like no time left, quick searches are not able to identify an ABC link at the moment, even though I imagine at this point it probably doesn't take much. Gizzer has pretty much given that what we are looking for is a teaser to link the "somebody" above to... but I can't do it, she told me my answer was "the wrong teaser". So... yeah...

Yuffie wrote:
True, but there's no way the Seer could've divined everyone in their talkbox to know they were all humans.


As dfam pointed out, depending on how small their talkbox is, this is possible. But on top of that, this game has an element that can potentially allow a large number of players to be cleared at once if used correctly. I can't be more precise than that at this time, as the tactic will not work if it is exposed to the open. You could potentially clear a 5 person box in one move if you know the answer to the round challenge however. Depending on how this was played, they could have done this.

At any rate, I am going to keep working on this for the last 8 minutes of my break, hoping against hope to come up with something...

ETA: Nothing... I can tell you the teaser "ABC" was submitted by something... odd coincidence there, but no real link...

Time for me to go again :/


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unctarheelAus


Posted: 08:58PM Jul 25, 2013

i cant wait to see the answer to this

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Gizzer


Posted: 09:06PM Jul 25, 2013

Wait no longer!

Round 2 Challenge
A Simple Question

What's squared away on a summer's day when somebody joined Braingle?


Hint 1: When I was young, I wanted to be a somebody; at least I can be friends with one!
Hint 2: Think outside the box? Nah! Think outside the hemisphere!
Hint 3: All the words within a word are three letters. (I hope it's not too unusual!)
Bone Toss: Simple questions have simple answers - as easy as ABC

Solution:

The letter D.

Somebody joined on December 20, 2004. I added him to my friends list just for this challenge! (Hint 1)

As I clarified within the game, for those thinking that December 20th is not a summer's day: it is a summer's day in the southern hemisphere, where summer runs from the first of December to the last day of February. (Hint 2)

Hint 3 is the hint from the current teaser of the day, Word Within a Word. If you check the list of past teasers of the day, you'll see that on December 20th, 2004 it was a teaser named Too Unusual. This teaser was submitted by dsquared, who is from New Zealand. He lives in Australia, or at least he did in 2004. I've lost touch with dsquared, as he has been away from Braingle for a long time. (I think I hear someone playing the banjo!)


This time 7 remaining players earned or were extended the right to vote.

Freakshow07 was a wolf, so he won't be hunting tonight. Will any of his furry friends be on the prowl?


While you wait, perhaps to be eaten, you can consider the challenge for the next round.


Round 3 Challenge
Monumental Task

Let's play hangman! Figure out this list of related items in order to earn the right to vote!


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To start, each team may select one letter to be revealed in the puzzle. The choices must be made in the team talkboxes during the night, and therefore will be made without collaboration between teams. I will reveal all occurrences of the chosen letters, as soon as possible during the first day. Once all teams' first choices have been revealed, teams will be allowed to select another letter to be revealed in the puzzle. Collaboration will be allowed within the game discussion. These choices will be revealed as soon as possible in the second day of the round. Don't worry, though. If you know where to search, you shouldn't even need me to provide any letters!


Edit for a typo.


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