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The Werewolf Game #2940

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This game is moderated by Gizzer. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #3

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Gizzer


Posted: 09:03PM Jul 26, 2013

Round 3 Challenge
Monumental Task

Let's play hangman! Figure out this list of related items in order to earn the right to vote!

_ _ _ _ _ L / _ O _ _ _
_ _ _ A _ / _ A L L / O _ / C _ _ _ A
_ _ _ _ L _ _
_ A C _ _ / _ _ C C _ _
_ A _ _ _ _ _ O _
_ _ _ A _ _ _ S / O _ / _ _ _ _ _
S _ S _ _ _ _ / C _ A _ _ L
S _ A _ _ _ / O _ / L _ _ _ _ _ _
S _ O _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ A _ / _ A _ A L


Hint 1: Letters selected during the night (in alphabetical order: L,L,S,X,Z) have been revealed.
Hint 2: Letters selected during the first day (in alphabetical order: A,C,O,Q,Q) have been revealed.

No more letters will be revealed. Don't worry, though. If you know where to search, you shouldn't even need me to provide any letters!



The randomly selected Scapegoat for this round is sonic102.
Sonic, please cast your vote for yourself now. If you earn - or are extended - the right to vote, you may change it.

Other players are not allowed to vote for sonic until/unless he is able to change his vote!


Reveal: talanpoe was human. 3 wolves and the seer remain in the game.


---This message was edited on 2013-07-27 20:48:22---
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 10:08PM Jul 26, 2013

Right now i am spving for 21kal!

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 10:33PM Jul 26, 2013

i'll go ahead and SPV as well.

this isnt where i parked my car
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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:39PM Jul 26, 2013

Wow, how'd you solve it so fast!? We're still missing a few

unctarheel wrote:
i'll go ahead and SPV as well.


Unctarheel, Sonic102 is the Scapegoat - you can't vote for him until he earns (or is given) the right to vote.
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 11:10PM Jul 26, 2013

woops yeah i just noticed that. ill switch it now

this isnt where i parked my car
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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 11:12PM Jul 26, 2013

SPVing as well. One wolf down, three to go, looks like we're off to a good start.

*vampscholar*
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 12:07AM Jul 27, 2013

SPV for tuku.

"I don't regret a single thing that we did, any time together we ever spent. I wouldn't change a thing. Baby, you know, sometimes you gotta just go with the flow."
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 12:29AM Jul 27, 2013

Spv for dfamina

I'm back
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Limerickus


Posted: 01:45AM Jul 27, 2013

I would say at least two groups solved and/or had voting extended to them as the X/Z do not seem to be a useful choice of letters for someone wishing to solve the puzzle :p

I'm watching you, Wazowski, always watching.
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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:48AM Jul 27, 2013

still working on earning my vote. will be back soon.

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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dfamina


Posted: 02:02AM Jul 27, 2013

SPV for now. Looks like Kruger and Shadows were on the money.

Edit: Typed in freak instead of Kruger. Silly me.


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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 02:13AM Jul 27, 2013

Just checking in. I will be around some tomorrow, so I am going to hold off voting for now. Hopefully, we can get some good dialogue going tomorrow.

Baila como si nadie está mirando.
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LanceKolaskiAus


Posted: 02:31AM Jul 27, 2013

I'm going to put in my spv for now.
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debc1A


Posted: 09:25AM Jul 27, 2013

morning
i am here
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EliosAus


Posted: 09:30AM Jul 27, 2013

Wow, y'all kill at these puzzles. LOL I haven't had time to do much more than guess a letter with my team, so no voting rights for me yet! Guess I gotta go do some work...

"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:12AM Jul 27, 2013

Just checkin' in! I'm more vocal in the Talkbox but seeing as how caring is not always sharing, I'm going to hold my tongue in-game for now (as much as possible for me )
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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 10:47AM Jul 27, 2013

Alright, here's the deal. Only 5 people voted during the daytime yesterday (excluding the scapegoat). Now, whether or not that was everyone who earned the right to vote or not, that leaves 13 people who didn't vote. However, what strikes me as odd is that talanpoe was eaten. He was the scapegoat during the day, which makes me think that he wasn't the sacrificial lamb (although, it is possible. I don't know how random Gizzer's picks are, though. If she uses a random engine, then it is possible he was selected twice in a row, just not probable). This poses the question, why did the wolves leave Shadows and Kruger in the game if they knew they had just taken out a wolf? True, it could have been a lucky shot in the dark, but few people seem to break MoO's unless they have a reason to. What are your thoughts on the matter?

Baila como si nadie está mirando.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 12:01PM Jul 27, 2013

I think that if Shadows & Kruger were wolves, they would be incredibly ruthless players to take out their teammate so early on & with little reason. Therefore, I think they're either being setup or the wolves like the challenge & wanted to keep them alive a bit longer. (Plus, Talanpoe wasn't very active, at least In-Game, so they could just be trying to eat the "inactives" to keep the game interesting).
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 12:58PM Jul 27, 2013

I tend to lean toward the last point yuffie made, that they are eating "inactives" knowing it keeps the game more interesting. This makes me think the wolves are experienced.. oh wait, we all are. So no lead there.

I know if I were a wolf and if there were another wolf in my TB, I'd want to be eating the humans in our box so we could have a private place to talk and plot. I wish we knew who was in all the groups, it would make it easier to see all those patterns.


"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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sonic102cin


Posted: 04:26PM Jul 27, 2013

When I get the RTV, I'm going to vote Unc for REVENGE!!

Play my game "Alliances"! PM me!
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 05:12PM Jul 27, 2013

What part of "revenge is a bad reason to vote for someone" don't you understand?

"I don't regret a single thing that we did, any time together we ever spent. I wouldn't change a thing. Baby, you know, sometimes you gotta just go with the flow."
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tukuwakatikiAus


Posted: 07:44PM Jul 27, 2013

I am checking in right now. Sorry, I didnt check in last round but I didnt get on until the end of it and didnt have the proper time/energy to be constructive in it. I am all caught up now but will wait to see what else happens before I vote

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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YuffieAus


Posted: 08:09PM Jul 27, 2013

mocha613 wrote:
I wish we knew who was in all the groups, it would make it easier to see all those patterns.


Me, too. I tried deciphering Gizzer's pattern but then realized she did it "randomly"


I will SPV Debc1 for now.
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EliosAus


Posted: 08:31PM Jul 27, 2013

My team will likely be the last of all to solve this thing, but I guess it doesn't matter how quickly we finish it, just that we do... LOL

"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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Gizzer


Posted: 08:50PM Jul 27, 2013

The second set of letters has been revealed. I'm a few minutes ahead of schedule, but it's getting late here.
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  Post from sonic102 deleted on 2013-07-27 23:03:22.
Limerickus


Posted: 12:32AM Jul 28, 2013

Okay, yeah, have a hard time believing Shadows or Kruger are wolves. I mean, could it happen, of course, especially knowing that reveals are in the game, but I doubt it. Especially having seen that strategy used by other experienced players. It usually doesn't pan out, some tell comes through anyway. It seems almost always better to have the extra wolf. Still, the move was odd. With so few votes, why the move? Unless it was a known wolf, but... How would that be possible at that point? I mean, a seer would only have one round to clear their box and discuss it, so, how would they both know their box was clear and stay out of the vote as it would be too dangerous and know a wolf. That requires at least three rounds by seer powers alone. (Three people in their box, clearing the two humans who voted, and then seeing the wolf) Problem is, this means the only way a wolf would be identified is by another wolf. Catch 22.

Still, I am leaning away from the wolf aspect. Now, as far as the eating, talanpoe being eaten does pretty much guarantee we had a wolf with the right to vote. I have found plenty of examples of no votes being lodged and every time the one eaten was the first person alphabetically who was not a wolf. So, I am willing to yield that that appears to be correct. Hard to prove, but with 6 examples and no counter examples, the chances it is coincidental just doesn't sit with me. So, yeah. We had a wolf voting last round. Needless to say, we also almost certainly had wolves not voting last round with three of them out there and so few votes available.

Right now, I am holding my vote though will make one shortly. In the meantime, to get something moving... And now that everyone has posted and/or voted...


SPOILER ALERT. THE ENTIRE ROUND THREE CHALLENGE IS REVEALED BELOW.



E I F F E L / T O W E R
G R E A T / W A L L / O F / C H I N A
K R E M L I N
M A C H U / P I C C H U
P A R T H E N O N
P Y R A M I D S / O F / E G Y P T
S I S T I N E / C H A P E L
S T A T U E / O F / L I B E R T Y
S T O N E H E N G E
T A J / M A H A L

The solution to this challenge is straightforward, using the search box as Gizzer alludes to in the challenge, search the challenge name, Monumental Task. You will find the Word Search "Monumental Challenge". The word list for the search is the solution.


More info likely coming soon, more analysis definitely.

ETA: Okay, the voting list as it was prior to the posting of this list as it is likely to be important later for reasons that may or may not be revealed shortly, but will be at some point =p

21kaldridge21 voted for dfamina
dfamina voted for Limerick
kmrutledge voted for 21kaldridge21
KRUGERGIRL14 voted for mocha613
LanceKolaski voted for buu441
Shadows voted for tukuwakatiki
sonic102 voted for unctarheel
unctarheel voted for WittyKitty
Yuffie voted for debc1


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ShadowsAca


Posted: 12:44AM Jul 28, 2013

Limerick, Gizzer implemented the whatsitcalleds purely for the purpose of avoiding the alphabetical thing. Scapegoat and something.

Any insight on whom we should vote for?


"I don't regret a single thing that we did, any time together we ever spent. I wouldn't change a thing. Baby, you know, sometimes you gotta just go with the flow."
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Limerickus


Posted: 01:09AM Jul 28, 2013

Ah, I see you mean the sacrificial lamb, I read about it initially, but, forgot about it later xD

The scapegoat is mentioned each round, but I forgot the lamb existed. I passed the using of the word sacrificial lamb as being another term for scapegoat when people talked about it xD

Okay, so to clarify on the sacrificial lamb, they are someone the wolves must vote for if there are no wolves with the right to vote? Now I am even more convinced there is no reason to not extend the right of voting to all... Seeing as wolves not having the right to vote makes it harder to analyse their play style, for what? Someone gets eaten anyway and reveals nothing xD

As far as insight, not yet, some ideas on who not to vote for, but... Voting for?

Right now, Mochs is just feeling off to me. Maybe she is just busy, but, she hasn't been here as much as I would expect. And she has been around :noway: She may be holding her cards close to her chest in the talk box, but... Right now, Although I have never seen her as a wolf so far... My vote is on Mocha613
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ShadowsAca


Posted: 01:44AM Jul 28, 2013

I'm not one to talk, but kruger is already voting for mocha. Starting a majority?

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I'm all for majorities -- better than trusting the system. I'll wait a bit before settling on a vote, though. Shouldn't make decisions at 2 a.m.


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"I don't regret a single thing that we did, any time together we ever spent. I wouldn't change a thing. Baby, you know, sometimes you gotta just go with the flow."
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buu441Ain


Posted: 07:45AM Jul 28, 2013

been going through the game for a while today. most of wittybitty's post have struck a bit odd to me. just getting a wolfish feel from them. so i'll start off a second majority with a vote on Witty.

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 09:26AM Jul 28, 2013

Shadows, I agree with you, some remote suspicion and shooting is far better than a shot in the dark.

Limerick, I can see where you are coming from (and am not offended by a vote for me). As I just explained in my TB last night:
Between the challenges and a intense TB TWG game I have been modding (that just ended), I have not had as much time as I would like to dedicate to the actual werewolf game. I tend to wait until round 3 or 4 to make notes in my werewolf notebook that I keep, until then, I always feel like I am shooting in the dark.


I have not taken the chance to sit down and do this yet. So, shoot me if you want now, or wait to hear my analysis (hopefully) next round.

I'm still working out my "shot in the dark" for this round, want to have some reason behind it... but I will certainly vote for someone, even if it is just to keep myself from getting shot. The good news is, even if you are shot you can still help your team with challenges, so I am not afraid of getting shot this game. To me, a win for the team would be a win for me.


"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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Limerickus


Posted: 09:49AM Jul 28, 2013

I can certainly understand that and I would certainly like to hear your analysis. I also honestly didn't realize you had a vote, I would think I would remember a vote for you :p perhaps one of the forementioned dangers of voting at 2am xD

Anyway, I will look around some more before the round ends, see if I can get some more solid reads.
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debc1A


Posted: 10:18AM Jul 28, 2013

morning

way to go lime

not sure who to vote for, it is hard to get a read when mostly we are all trying to vote

i will make my decision when i get there
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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 01:53PM Jul 28, 2013

Here is the current voting list with 7 hours and 7 minutes to go:
21kaldridge21 voted for dfamina
buu441 voted for WittyKitty
debc1 voted for kmrutledge
dfamina voted for Limerick
kmrutledge voted for 21kaldridge21
KRUGERGIRL14 voted for mocha613
LanceKolaski voted for buu441
Limerick voted for mocha613
Shadows voted for tukuwakatiki
sonic102 voted for unctarheel
unctarheel voted for WittyKitty
Yuffie voted for debc1
WittyKitty voted for mocha613

I will be voting for Mocha. I know that I am not a wolf and would hate for a silver bullet to be wasted upon me. I am unsure if Mochs is a wolf, but buu's change of heart right after Mochs was put into a majority doesn't rest well with me. It almost seems like he is trying to protect her.

Edited to add my vote and update the time left.


---This message was edited on 2013-07-28 13:56:50---

Baila como si nadie está mirando.
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EliosAus


Posted: 04:25PM Jul 28, 2013

Been soo busy today, I haven't had time to keep up with the voting and reasons/suspicions, etc. I have to run out right now, so I don't have time to catch up. I'm going to place an SPV for someone not yet voted for right now; if I am able, I will read through the round before it ends and make a more educated decision.

Edit to add: Voted Elios because that's the first name on the list not yet voted for. Subject to change!


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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 05:16PM Jul 28, 2013

Elios, you crack me up!

Looks like I will end up voting for you, Skinny, to attempt to save myself. Don't really want to do that, but I might not have a choice for the same reasoning you gave (I don't know about if you are a wolf, but I know I'm not, so it is the more sure thing for me). Quite frankly, I'm not getting a wolfish vibe from you and would rather vote for someone else.

In fact, I'm going to vote for UNC, I have a small suspicion he is a non-voting member of one of the two teams that earned the right to vote last round. This leads me to believe he is NOT the seer, but could have been a wolf (since it is likely the wolves got to think for themselves last night as the night timed out, indicating that at least one did not earn the right to vote, if they all had not, they would have been told who to vote for by Giz). Plus, that makes another majority option for someone else to vote for. I guess it comes down to who you think is most suspicious, and who you think could be of most help later in the game.

If it comes down to the wire and I am still looking to get shot, I'll switch to Skinny to put us in a tie.

(By the way, for those who are not familiar, I call WittyKitty Skinny... it is a long story involving werewolf and white text and poking people in the eyes with sticks.


"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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Limerickus


Posted: 06:25PM Jul 28, 2013

Okay, does anyone else have problems voting for their friends? I have a hard time voting for Mochs and I do want to see her analysis, so, I will break off and give her the benefit of the doubt, the game she was running was crazy xD


/me wonders why Sonic's post was deleted without explanation and by whom

I am also curious about buu's second majority on Witty, her posts seem pretty in line, also seeming to be more in line with a human trying to analyse the eating rather than a wolf.

Moving my vote to buu right now, hoping I am not making a mistake trusting you Mochs :p
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LanceKolaskiAus


Posted: 06:42PM Jul 28, 2013

If you are in TEAM ALPHA it is essential that you read my post. When our team answered the clue for the right to vote this round, our talkbox decided to extend the right to vote to a team with no wolves, and that ended up being Team Alpha. We are only revealing this information so that you guys can collaborate as a group to hunt down the wolves. We believe none of the wolves know who is in team Alpha though we are not positive. Therefore, it is imperative that you guys do not reveal yourselves as being in team Alpha.

In case any of you are skeptical of this post, I was the one chosen to be the scapegoat to pass on this information. Therefore, the wolves will also not know who is in our group other than me so as to protect the identities of the other players in my team. Also, whether I am shot or eaten, my identity will be revealed as human, in which case you will know for sure. Hopefully, since you know who you are and you know that you got extended the right to vote, then you should believe what I am saying. So get to work Team Alpha and hunt the wolves!

Changing vote to Wittykitty. I'm getting a wolf vibe from her earlier post.


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YuffieAus


Posted: 08:11PM Jul 28, 2013

mocha613 wrote:
I guess it comes down to who you think is most suspicious, and who you think could be of most help later in the game.


With one hour left before the game ends, I'm deciding to switch my vote from DebC to Unc for this very reason. I do find WittyKitty's posts a bit odd, but if one of my many theories is correct, it would make her human & therefore I just don't feel right letting her be shot. I'm switching my vote to Unc to give WiKi a chance.
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LanceKolaskiAus


Posted: 08:26PM Jul 28, 2013

My wolf radar is tingling. Yuffie is protecting Wittykitty. Even with good reasons, I have rarely ever seen a human protect another human. Looks more like collaboration to me.
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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 08:45PM Jul 28, 2013

Same here Lance, swtching vote to WK.

*vampscholar*
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WittyKittyAus


Posted: 08:52PM Jul 28, 2013

Well, there is only like 20 minutes left, and I am switching to unctarheel to protect myself. As I said before, I am only certain of my own humanity

Baila como si nadie está mirando.
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 08:57PM Jul 28, 2013

grats guys, you are killing the seer

this isnt where i parked my car
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Limerickus


Posted: 09:01PM Jul 28, 2013

Are you claiming Seer? Or saying Witty is seer? Both of you are at 4 votes, either way, why reveal that? No surety on who will be shot....
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unctarheelAus


Posted: 09:02PM Jul 28, 2013

i am seer. and its 5-4, not 4-4

this isnt where i parked my car
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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 09:03PM Jul 28, 2013

unc had 5 after kitty changed her vote

*vampscholar*
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Gizzer


Posted: 09:11PM Jul 28, 2013

Well, that was an interesting round, especially at the end.

Round 3 Challenge
Monumental Task

Solution:

As stated in the spoiler above, the puzzle comes from the search list of the Word Search puzzle Monumental Task

EIFFEL TOWER
GREAT WALL OF CHINA
KREMLIN
MACHU PICCHU
PARTHENON
PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT
SISTINE CHAPEL
STATUE OF LIBERTY
STONEHENGE
TAJ MAHAL


All 16 of the remaining players earned or were extended the right to vote, and that means all 3 remaining wolves will be on the prowl!

Reveal: unctarheel was human


Round 4 Challenge
What's the Deal?

Let's play some poker. We'll dispense with the betting.

Here is my hand:

?? K♣ 9♦ 10♣ J♥

Correctly identify my hole card (represented by ??) and you will earn the right to vote.

I don't want to receive 81 guesses, so each team gets only 3 attempts at this!

Hints will be given at intervals, starting at daybreak. First, let's see if anyone can solve it without any help tonight!
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