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The Werewolf Game #2946

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 7 rounds.

Discussion of Round #5

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:43AM Jul 22, 2013

RFM
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buu441 was human. TheLegend was human and an Oracle.
Normally when the Werewolves eat an Oracle, they are given the name of a living person in the Seer TB...


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:44AM Jul 22, 2013

I don't know, I was thinking Im not sure about Chris, so between Chris and Har for me, busy for a little while probably though, but Ill see if anything about Chris makes sense

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SirHarA


Posted: 07:18AM Jul 22, 2013

OK MR> Spider....Whatever...Let's look at the facts...
1. who could pull off the ultimate "wolf debate"....
a. although you came out on top I talked to Lance in chat...not about the game...BUT I know he is a brilliant dude...
b.since the wolves have a box this could have easily have been orchestrated...
c. If I was a wolf I would eaten you a long time ago...
d. I am a human that figured out to reach the "endgame" with my wit charm and intellect....
e. your last post sounds wolfish
f. I dont know if your slipping...OR you ARE the wolf...
g. you are either a wolf or an idiot in this game!!!! That is my opinion !!! I might be wrong but I bet one of the 2 applies....

So put that in Harry's pipe and smoke it!!!!!!



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bradon182001*us


Posted: 07:23AM Jul 22, 2013

I think we should also take another look at jeminy, although Har still remains high on my list. You would know better about Chris, but he is still worth consideration I think. just not one of my top suspects for now.

Will anxiously await SirHar's comments, though.


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SirHarA


Posted: 07:37AM Jul 22, 2013

Bradon I cleared you in round one after the lead vote on Koin.....But you are starting to bother me....

Jeminy Chris Bradon or spider?????? is where I am at....

the problem with Jeminy is that Lance was trying to implicate him.....I dont know lances' style but ....

Chris Spider or bradon(Bradon if you are the wolf you were awesome!!!!)

A thought occured to me that since you were the 1st vote on Koin in an SPV situation....even if you WERE on line when the "damn Broke" you couldnt have changed your vote!!!!!!


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RhythmicAus


Posted: 07:44AM Jul 22, 2013

Updates posted.

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SirHarA


Posted: 07:49AM Jul 22, 2013

It is not Jeminy....this is a toughy.....

who would want to humiliate me and Spider the most???Chang...chris...I dont think Braden has the balls...err ovaries....

dfc only with careful coaching from koin and Lance


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SirHarA


Posted: 07:51AM Jul 22, 2013

Spider Dont worry I aint in no stinking boxes!!!!!!!

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SirHarA


Posted: 08:01AM Jul 22, 2013

since the wolf is afraid to vote...I will kick it off with a Chang vote!!!!!

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:52AM Jul 22, 2013

I'm not sure about Bradon, Ill let you know when I review. I did find it Incredibly odd that she assumed she would be eaten last night

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bradon182001*us


Posted: 09:11AM Jul 22, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
I'm not sure about Bradon, Ill let you know when I review. I did find it Incredibly odd that she assumed she would be eaten last night


Are you serious? I voted to shoot both Koin and Lance. I think that would put me on the list to be eaten, but I was hoping that by naming Har as suspect would keep me alive, and apparently it did.

Now, the fact that Har is voting for Chang makes me even more convinced he's our final wolf. I'm pretty sure Chang, Dcf and Spider are clear as I was sure Buu was clear.

There are still questions in my mind about jeminy and PC as well, but Har tops my list of suspects. Take it for what it's worth, but that's where my vote is going.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:40AM Jul 22, 2013

Anything number of things could have kept you alive, why do you assume it was naming Har as a suspect? anyway, it was pretty evident Legend or Chang was going to get eaten. Ill be catching up on all things anyway so Ill know where I stand soon enough

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bradon182001*us


Posted: 10:09AM Jul 22, 2013

Because he's a wolf and was named as such? Since I named Har as my suspicion, if he is the final wolf he wouldn't vote to eat me since that would put more suspicion on him, or if he isn't the final wolf, then whoever is would leave me because I did cast suspicion on Har.

I think Jeminy bears watching. He seems reluctant to post although he's been on recently.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:29AM Jul 22, 2013

Yes but there are dozens of reasons to eat someone or not eat someone, You did A and then B happened, doesnt mean A caused B, who knows why Legend was eaten or you werent, its dangerous to assume causality. However, Jeminy is a possible alternative, I know he was surprisingly cutthroat in one game, and his handling of Lance in Round 3 is a little bothersome

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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 10:44AM Jul 22, 2013


At the moment I am thinking Spider.

In round 2, he defended Lance, but then changed to voting for Lance in round 3, and also the possible rush for me to end the round with shooting buu in round 4:

Buu was on earlier he showed no interest in speaking, plus with his time zone its gonna be a while

besides its delaying the inevitable anyway, buu will not be saved this round


Other than Spider I am leaning towards possibly Har. He made that really odd out-of-Har-character post in I believe round 1, and now is back to his Har-ness self. (With me in his wolf list, yet again ). I wouldn't mind a Har vote later, but for now I'm keeping my vote in my pocket and will return a little later.


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jeminyten


Posted: 10:44AM Jul 22, 2013

Distraction is a dreadful thing, one which seems to hit me alot in most games

In my eyes, Har looks as if he is most likely to be a wolf. I have a feeling about dcf and I don't really think anything either way on Chris, so I'm going to keep watching them. Bradon is another maybe but I'm leaning on human which leaves Chang and Spider clear.

Saying this I should probably go for Har but for now I'm going to go with my feelings and vote dcf at least until a couple of people who haven't posted voice their opinions, or I feel I've waited long enough.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:46AM Jul 22, 2013

Didnt defend Lance in Round 2, I accused Cab, my vote actually put Lance in more jeaparody, please stop saying I did

name me one wolf in the history of the game who attempted, let alone was succesful in diverting votes away from two wolves at the end of the round. It was 5-3 Lance/Koin (conveniently forgotten is my vote for Koin that made it 3-2 Koin and me being the first one to actually state suspicioun of Lance all the way back in Round 1), any wolf worth it is gonna see the writing on the wall and let one of them go


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SirHarA


Posted: 01:08PM Jul 22, 2013

OK I don't think spider is a wolf... I doubt lance would have voted Jeminy in 2 if he was a wolf....That leaves dfc Chris Bradon and chang....I assure you I am human....Chris Dfc Braden chang is where I am at now....I am going to switch to chris ..his last post was wack I think spider is the least suspect and I know I am human...I understand how you could suspect me but me and spider as your top suspects sounds like you are trying to keep everyone on the suspect list.....

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SirHarA


Posted: 01:13PM Jul 22, 2013

BTW dfc and Braden why on God's green earth would I haved joined Lance on the jeminy vote we were the only 2 that didnt vote for Lance!!!! I am crazy but I am NOT STUPID!!!!!

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bradon182001*us


Posted: 01:53PM Jul 22, 2013

SirHar wrote:
BTW dfc and Braden why on God's green earth would I haved joined Lance on the jeminy vote we were the only 2 that didnt vote for Lance!!!! I am crazy but I am NOT STUPID!!!!!


I don't know, why did you? It's obvious why Lance voted for jeminy, but what I saw was you trying to get Lance to go on the offense. Encouraging him not to give up.

SirHar wrote:

Lance play some offense!!!!! Who do you think the last 2 wolves are!!!!!???

I might save your as$ but you have to give some offense!!!!!


Anyhow, that does move jeminy down further on my suspect list, moving PC up to second behind Har.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 03:02PM Jul 22, 2013

im not sure about Har, typically when he is a wolf his triple and quadruple posts give him away. When he is a human they are legit thoughts that I could at least see him feeling he needs to post, when he is a wolf, he knows he triple/quad posts, so he tries to duplicate that style, the only problem is he has to make up gibberish....he's 'semi' doing that this game so I cant be sure. Im getting more confused the more I go at this.....Im considering Jeminy but Im not sure of anything really now haha

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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 04:22PM Jul 22, 2013


I understand your arguments against you voting for Lance Spid, and they are valid, but I have this feeling that you are a wolf, and all the defense comments were you cleverly picking your way out of harms way, being that you are a long and experienced player. For now I'm holding my vote off though.

Har is still firmly in my radar though, he seems quite actively bizarre this round, (and I mean to say he's posting quite a bit). Might join in the vote for him at some point too.

Bradon isn't much in my radar at this point yet, there's not really much I can say about her.

Jeminy... ehh...

I will be placing a vote right before I nod off for the night, but the likely hood is that I'd vote for Spid or for Har.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 04:32PM Jul 22, 2013

Im gonna keep Jem in the mix...I remember one game where he was absolutely ruthless the moment he thought a fellow wolf might be in trouble

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SirHarA


Posted: 04:47PM Jul 22, 2013

OK team let's analyze this...

Braden you can quote me all day long but do you think if I was Lances wolf partner I would encourage him in open day talk??? good grief the wolves have a box!!! It would make NO SENSE!!!!! and I would be the lone person to vote with him ??? GOOD GRIEF!!!! That should CLEAR ME not make me a suspect....WHICH game are you reading???

It is obvious the wolves have a good strategy because I am truly lost...
I cant even make a HAR list...

SPider could have concocted this with lance and koin

Braden was the first to vote Koin in 1 because it was safe until the last minute flurry..and then either she wasnt on line or couldnt change her vote without looking wolfish...

I survived because I havent suspected braden or dfc for that matter...

Chris was on my original list but I dont know...

That's my thoughts I am lost!!! Nice job wolves....
I guess I would have to list it this way....Chris Bradon dfc spider Jeminy


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PianistChrisAgi


Posted: 04:57PM Jul 22, 2013


Right I'm going to place my vote on Har. His last post was quite overly defensive, and he is a better shot than Spid at this point in time.

Keeping Spid in my radar though.


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SirHarA


Posted: 05:12PM Jul 22, 2013

OK 1 of the three Har voters are the wolf!!!! trust me on this one....I gotta depend on spider and chang to save me????? Either braden or chris is an idiot...
or both if they are human.......Chang and spider I need your help please....
Jeminey???

Chris what part of my last post did you not understand???

Of course it was defensive I now have 3 votes on my as$ I was merely pointing out the ideocracy of them!!!!

Chris please critique the 1st phrase of my last post!!!!! I am ALL EARS!!!!!!


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SirHarA


Posted: 05:23PM Jul 22, 2013

You blockheads are going to shoot me....when I flip human it means The wolf is Chris Braden or spider...

Spider nice job with your jeminy vote with NO post!!!!!

Chang?????where are you man?????


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 05:29PM Jul 22, 2013

My vote for Jeminy goes pretty straightforward with my post saying Im going to put Jeminy in the mix

and I agree you joining vote with Lance is criminally stupid of you are a wolf so I believe you


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 05:31PM Jul 22, 2013

Yes, Har, I was the first to vote for Koin as an SPV. I could have changed my vote at any time. However, the more Koin posted, the more wolfie he sounded, and when he backpedaled from being suspicious of those who were reading too much into the "Har" thing ( He posted "Edit: ok, so I have 3 votes as of now. Having read the round, I'm kinda suspicious of the people reading too much into the har thing.") to "@bradon: just refer to spiders post, thats what i was talking about.) Remember, Spider was the first to comment on Har's "normal" post. Several others including myself also commented on it. But then Koin defended Lance saying he seemed more like just being confused than a wolf strategy.

I realize that no one could read my mind, but it was that point that I liked my Koin vote, and I was on line when the "hammer" fell, had plenty of time to change my vote if I wanted to, but was actually glad to see the Koin majority form. I had no intention of changing my vote at that time or any time prior once Koin finally came on line and started posting.

Keeping my vote on Har, and at this time I have no intention of changing it.


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SirHarA


Posted: 06:10PM Jul 22, 2013

Braden what part of the 1st phrase of my post at 347pm do you not understand....Please explain this to me????

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jeminyten


Posted: 06:11PM Jul 22, 2013

There's still a question mark over Har but, at the moment, I just can't feel it. Saying that I'm not going to be the one who gets him shot. I'm still keep my vote on dcf. I don't see anything which clears her and I'm not at all ready to rule out the possibility of a quiet wolf, leaving the rest of us to go for each other (which would seem to be working). Just a thought but I'm going for it.



I can see this round is going to be quite a battle between everyone


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:35PM Jul 22, 2013

Har has a legit defense

Round 2 Voting

bradon182001 voted for LanceKolaski
buu441 voted for PianistChris
changhill voted for LanceKolaski
jeminy voted for LanceKolaski
LanceKolaski voted for jeminy
PianistChris voted for LanceKolaski
SirHar voted for jeminy
TheLegend voted for LanceKolaski
The_Spider voted for LanceKolaski

Why would wolves ever do this?


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 07:15PM Jul 22, 2013

Why would wolves ever do this?:

Since Lance was as good as shot, to set Har up to be able to say, if challenged,


SirHar wrote:
OK team let's analyze this...

Braden you can quote me all day long but do you think if I was Lances wolf partner I would encourage him in open day talk??? good grief the wolves have a box!!! It would make NO SENSE!!!!! and I would be the lone person to vote with him ??? GOOD GRIEF!!!! That should CLEAR ME not make me a suspect....WHICH game are you reading???


If you go back to Round 3 where Lance posted

Realistically, with koin being a wolf and all, wouldn't him "defending" me make me more likely to be a human.

And if you will look, you will see that the following round Har never appeared in the game, never posted, never voted, (hiding?)so my feeling is he was keeping a low profile, hoping to stay out of suspicion. That's what happened, btw, and Buu was targeted.

If you don't agree with me, that's fine. But I have to go with what I think, be it right or wrong,





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SirHarA


Posted: 08:16PM Jul 22, 2013

Bradon I cant decide if you are a wolf or an idiot.... but it is DEFINETLY one or the other...

Appeal to bradon and jeminy
1. I didnt just fall off a turnip truck
2. If you honestly think I would be stupid enough...to enchorage Lance and then vote with him V. Jeminy then refer to my opening statement
3. Spider why would Lance vote Jeminy and lead me there??? You voting Jeminy right now disturbs me greatly
4. Bradon now spider is defending me and voting Jeminy for no real reason
5 Jeminy , I am going to need you and Chang to win this game...Chris and Bradon are off in "lala land",,,and spider is a threat
6 Jeminy your dfc vote is a wasted vote...If she happens to be the last wolf I would be shocked...
7 Obviously the wolves have a good plan....which leads me back to Spider...
8 I will vote spider or chris no problem....I would even vote bradon...BUT I Need some HELP HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 I find it hard to believe that Spider actually thinks Jeminy is the last wolf
10 and I am putting Chris in the idiot or wolf category
11 the last wolf is Spider , Chris, or Bradon...PERIOD!!!!!
12 Jeminy bradon and chris are you hearing me????
13 DFC Where are you???? I need some help here..convince jeminy you are not the wolf and let's take out the ACTUAL wolf.....
14 Chang where are you?????
15 I hate playing defense but good grief if you cant see that I am human you are a BLOCKHEAD!!!!

CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:17PM Jul 22, 2013

Nah I never believe in these "he did something very wolfish so he could say he would never do it" arguments. They simply reek of confirmation bias. Occum's Razor destroys them almost 100% of the time. Perception is everything in this game, and no wolf is gonna try a strategy that makes him look bad simply to play the why would I make myself look bad card. But if thats your belief go with

Jeminy has done very little to clear himself, except the standard wolf cross votes in Round 3 which in contrast to my above post, is almost a text book wolf strategy, espeically with a TB.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:29PM Jul 22, 2013

Lets put it this way BLOCKHEAD!! vote Jeminy or I can put a stop to you right now, one way or the other

screw it Har, you had your chance


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RhythmicAus


Posted: 04:30AM Jul 23, 2013

17 hours left of the Night and yeah, SirHar was human

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