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The Werewolf Game #2969

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 7 rounds.

Discussion of Round #3

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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 08:31PM Sep 15, 2013

Welcome to Round 3!

Nicats was a WOLF!!!


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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:40PM Sep 15, 2013

Why was 4demo eaten

oh well, SPV


Let the games, begin!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:07PM Sep 15, 2013

SPV for Jayo

Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:17PM Sep 15, 2013

I gotta think of a gimmick for this round, expect something extraordinarily clever though

4demo eating is utterly pointless?! Unless pp is a wolf and they were really worried about 4demos vote being seer related I really dont see the point. Sky (at least appears to be) a much better choice, and certainly one of the cats voters should have been in the mix.

I guess these wolves did not take a .......

vote of confidence



Let the games, begin!
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bradon182001*us


Posted: 09:32PM Sep 15, 2013

SPV again for Deb. Still mostly SPV, but with a vague suspicion asshe just isn't playing as she normally does.

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guamgirl2Agu


Posted: 09:53PM Sep 15, 2013

SPVing right now. May change vote later if a valid choice comes up. Little busy today, so will try to check on the game as often as possible.
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JayoAie


Posted: 03:19AM Sep 16, 2013

SPV for Bradon, I don't usually think too much about early eatings due to wolves voting differently x 3 = almost random result.
Only 2 voters last night though so who knows


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:20AM Sep 16, 2013

The only time I really try to analyse the eatings is if the wolves have a TB and can coordinate and direct the eating the way they want it to go.
Otherwise, there are too many variables: 3 wolves, 9 WEIGHTED votes, players either overly familiar with each other or who have not played together enough to know each other's style.
Did the night time out? I wasn't home when it started or ended so have no idea.

EDIT: Nevermind, checked the times of the last ost of last round (1151AM) and the first post of this round (2131) so night lasted less than 10 hours. I don't like using log in times but If we have any players who have been inactive for a day or more, I guess we can eliminate them.


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Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 05:25AM Sep 16, 2013

No, there are two wolves, a wolf was shot and the 4demo eating makes no sense, this is not overthinking anything, it was a bad eating (presumably). If Nicats was human it wouldnt mean much, but she wasnt, so the wolves should have been more strategic in their eating (or maybe they were?)

For whatever reason the wolves said....

The demo is over



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Let the games, begin!
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 06:19AM Sep 16, 2013

SPV for now. Until spid figures out more

Fearless.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:37AM Sep 16, 2013

Hey Deb, I want you to know that I'm not doing this to get a rise out of you, but I think bradon might be onto something. Of course, if you were to make a certain Spider friend a certain promise, I might reconsider

Ill stick with ppjones, but deb's not out of consideration, I'd just hate to shoot someone......

with so much promise



Let the games, begin!
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changhill*us


Posted: 06:46AM Sep 16, 2013

Rather fast night. I can agree that the 4demo eating was rather unexpected. I don't usually play with 4 demo, so it could have been a familiarity eating. But I would think that the wolves are trying to find the seer. But I would have expected the wolves to eat a nincats voter. 4demo voted spider and ppjones. I wouldn't call ppjones inexperienced, but if ppjones has ties to 4demo, then he would fill 2 conditions.

I will do my usual thing until people show up. But I think my pairing is ppjones-deb. Which would be an awesome pairing. xD


*rawr*
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 08:05AM Sep 16, 2013

YAY!!!!!! We got a wolf!

Going to look over last round votes but I voted bradon for now


Like what you love, and love what you got.
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 08:50AM Sep 16, 2013

I don't usually play with 4demo so I don't know if there is any relation with the eating.

Fearless.
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ppjonesAus


Posted: 08:52AM Sep 16, 2013

Deb's not a wolf, she just needs to shave.....

I am struggling with the vote last round. With approx four hours left, the Nicats votes went from 2 to 5. I will vote with the assumption that a wolf slipped into the majority in the last couple of hours.

Chang, SkyBet, or Spidey.....hmmmm

I don't know skybet (since I have been away for a while) but not knowing him I may be quick to link him as a wolf with Spidey. Spidey seems to be upset with the eating, that they didn't eat the right person and skybet is not new but may fit the description of not playing enough with the group that he chose the wrong person to eat? It's all circumstantial...


The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 08:59AM Sep 16, 2013

Longhorn_fan wrote:
YAY!!!!!! We got a wolf!

I'm always wary of this kind of reaction to a wolf shooting.

It cannot be denied that the demo eating was a pretty poor choice (no offence).

I'm voting jones for now, don't see how he can think I'm a good shot after a decisive wolf vote last round.


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:59AM Sep 16, 2013

Yeah but the vote switch is based on a tangible act, the voting of the last non-voting player (Skybet) The switch to non-posting Nicats is wholly natural.

Id still suggest a ppjones vote this round but I am open to other options, however, we should lay off Deb, I think we will actually learn Deb's identity in the night

Dont start a majority too fast......

we want to able to keep up with the jones'



Let the games, begin!
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ppjonesAus


Posted: 09:06AM Sep 16, 2013

That's fine, but when Snowy declares me human, I hope the mob goes after you two....

The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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debc1A


Posted: 09:07AM Sep 16, 2013

morning people...and pp

i am worried about bobi and her "tummy" condition, why are you so paranoid about me??

and pp is right i am not a wolf!!!

will vote someone for now, but i am watching grandma


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debc1A


Posted: 09:12AM Sep 16, 2013

The_Spider wrote:


Id still suggest a ppjones vote this round but I am open to other options, however, we should lay off Deb, I think we will actually learn Deb's identity in the night



thats mean dan


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 09:14AM Sep 16, 2013

Also just to note last round:

Longhorn wrote:
However....keeping my vote for the fun of it.

I notice LH tends to give reasons like this for her voting when she is hairy. We had a non-posting player, it makes every bit of sense to switch over... This coupled with her overreaction to shooting a wolf last round makes me incredibly suspicious.


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:17AM Sep 16, 2013

Longhorn doesnt really worry me yet.

Her aggression against Chang last round was a bit risky if she's a wolf (and she wasnt really coming off as trying to persuade anyone, just genuinely venting), and Nicats was pretty doomed by the time of Longhorns last post....so if Longhorn is a wolf I would imagine she would have accepted it by that point.

The mob is free to come after us, I'm not sure what your case is exactly? Its probly the two guys who voted for the only shot wolf?

bradon182001 voted for debc1
changhill voted for changhill
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
guamgirl2 voted for Longhorn_fan
HABS2933 voted for Jayo
Jayo voted for bradon182001
Longhorn_fan voted for bradon182001
ppjones voted for Skybet
Skybet voted for ppjones
The_Spider voted for ppjones


Deb you backed out of your bradon vote


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Let the games, begin!
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debc1A


Posted: 09:24AM Sep 16, 2013

i didn't say i was going to vote bobi, i need to hear more from her, she is just a click away, but as my friend, i will give her a chance to speak

and danny boy, why are you picking at me??


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:29AM Sep 16, 2013

no reason Deb

im just saying wanting to vote her just for suspecting you seems a tad off


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debc1A


Posted: 10:06AM Sep 16, 2013

i am just watching her...for now

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bradon182001*us


Posted: 10:08AM Sep 16, 2013

That's the way it's been all game. Sorry Deb, but up until this round, you have been sitting back and just letting the game flow around you, and that's not normal.

I'm wondering about LH's putting me in a majority without stating any reason. If Sky is right about her previous game playing, I could consider a change of heart, but still keeping my eye on Deb.


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ppjonesAus


Posted: 10:16AM Sep 16, 2013

The_Spider wrote:
I'm not sure what your case is exactly? Its probly the two guys who voted for the only shot wolf?


I thought I stated my case clearly above and while I do acknowledge that you placed your vote on a wolf, I tend to give more credit to the players who started the vote, and less to the people you piled on in the final hours.


The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:21AM Sep 16, 2013

Yeah, you stated the case, but its just not a compelling case

A) The switch to Nicats occured due to a tangible, defined event late in the round. Sky hadnt voted, he then voted, people found the next best thing (Nicats). So I dont know what you mean by 'the final hours' Those final hours were decisive. You didnt address this valid criticism of your case. You are taking a cursory look at last round and not accounting for the specific details of how the votes were put down.

B) Sky turned a 2-2 into a 3-2, thats about as decisive a vote gets

C) I think I voted next to make it 4-1, no not the most pivotal vote, but pretty important. Besides, a harmless SPV (guamgirls vote) is less meaningful than either of ours


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ppjonesAus


Posted: 11:01AM Sep 16, 2013

I do enjoy this....

A) I addressed my own statements as circumstantial. Confusing my opinion with my "case" may be a little of a stretch...
B) I don't consider the vote 2-2 for the fact that chang was self voting for himself and would have changed. There was only one real majority, in my opinion.
C) It is not 100%, but a SPV vote for a wolf is very much accidental, but humans make accidents, not wolves.


The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 11:26AM Sep 16, 2013

Splitting hairs with the nomenclature but no big deal

The vote was 2-2 Sky/Nicats, Chang vote has nothing to do with it. The only relevant argument you can use is that Sky was voting to protect himself. Which I would still argue, Sky threw the round away quite quickly if he was a wolf by making it 3-2 and dooming one of them

Yeah, and wolves SPV for eachother all the time


Im willing to change my vote to someone, but based on the evidence acquired so far, Sky looks like the least likely possibility at the moment (and ill admit it just occured to me to check who cats voted for last round - guamgirl - but without a post and so early it means very little)


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ppjonesAus


Posted: 12:30PM Sep 16, 2013

The only comment I will make is that I am referencing the voting list with 4.5 hours left in the round, which had two votes for Nicats and two for Chang. Skybet only had one vote at the time from slam. So you are saying, someone else picked Skybet, and them changed their vote in that small window of time? Interesting.....

So you have lead me down this path so now I need your help. From the time Chang posted the votes until the time the round ended, three things changed. You and Chang switched to Nicats, and Skybet entered a vote for Nicats.

So in the final "decisive" hours, skybet never had two votes for him. And he wasn't protecting himself.

So thi sis the part of the game where I develop tunnel vision, but...we will see who they believe first.


The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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changhill*us


Posted: 12:49PM Sep 16, 2013

bradon182001 voted for debc1
changhill voted for changhill
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
guamgirl2 voted for Longhorn_fan
HABS2933 voted for Jayo
Jayo voted for bradon182001
Longhorn_fan voted for bradon182001
ppjones voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for ppjones
The_Spider voted for ppjones

There looks like there are some time line discrepancies, but I will have to address that when I get out of school... still 7 hours left in the game


*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 12:57PM Sep 16, 2013

Thinking of switching to slamm, for not voting, and she has given me no reason not to yet

Let the games, begin!
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JayoAie


Posted: 01:33PM Sep 16, 2013

I feel pretty good about the Bradon vote, I'd vote her if my vote wasn't already on her!
Oh and Habs must be a wolf, cos she voted for me


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 02:11PM Sep 16, 2013

Yes Skybet did have two votes on him, cause I was vote 2

its extremely dangerous logically speaking, to make a positive claim based on a lack of counterevidence (a voting list posted when it was 2-2 for example).


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 02:28PM Sep 16, 2013

Jayo wrote:
I feel pretty good about the Bradon vote, I'd vote her if my vote wasn't already on her!
Oh and Habs must be a wolf, cos she voted for me


Just curious, why do you feel good about your vote for me? I believe you said it was an SPV, but that was before LH placed the second vote for me. Now what is it? Do you feel good about an SPV or the fact that I am now in jeopardy? I'm certainly not questioning an SPV, but I am questioning why you feel good about it?


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changhill*us


Posted: 02:53PM Sep 16, 2013

Not that it looks like it's important anymore, but I believe that my vote was changed first (before) spider. I didn't mind waiting for nicats to pop up and give reasons, but didn't wanna leave my vote there in case she wanted to swing my way.

Not sure what to make of the pp-spider convo, but would like to hear response to brandon's post. And more from slamm and guam in general.


*rawr*
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debc1A


Posted: 03:43PM Sep 16, 2013

bobi doll is in jeopardy what are you going to do???!!!

edit
from last round it looks to me for voting nic (first to last)
guam
jayo
sky
kevy
dan

another edit

i don't know why i am voting for guam
i really don't think she is a wolf
i think i will switch to habs
and may do more switching before its over
i could do a list


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guamgirl2Agu


Posted: 03:56PM Sep 16, 2013

Good morning all.. This may be my last chance this round to check up on the game. Baby-sitting job this morning in RL.

Not sure what to make of it all. Especially the dialogue between spider and ppjones. As of now, I'm going to stick with my current vote, although I will try to get on again before the round ends. Sorry this is rushed, but I do have to get going. Good luck with the rest of the round.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 03:58PM Sep 16, 2013

Not really following all the rallying on Bradon, its still early considering the wolf shooting, I still think one of the quiets is a good shot (Slamm/Guam) esp. considering neither of them voted Nicats last round, and especially if slammin doesnt vote

Let the games, begin!
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debc1A


Posted: 03:59PM Sep 16, 2013

i thought slam had softball
and i AM worried about bobi


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JayoAie


Posted: 04:02PM Sep 16, 2013

Bradon, there is a niggling feeling from your posts and if I were Seer I would divine you to sate my suspicion

If Slam is a no show then it's go time in that direction, I agree. Will give it a little more time, but I'll be asleep when the round ends so I'll switch over before I go, if Slam is still AWOL


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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bradon182001*us


Posted: 04:26PM Sep 16, 2013

Jayo wrote:
Bradon, there is a niggling feeling from your posts and if I were Seer I would divine you to sate my suspicion



Oh, my, yes, please Seer, whoever you are, do divine me.

I had that same niggling feeling about Deb, so I can understand what you mean, but if you want to get another wolf, your vote on me won't do it.

I will say that Deb is now playing more like her human self, so most likely I will change my vote, but for now she's not in jeopardy, so will wait to see if Slammn does show.


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debc1A


Posted: 04:56PM Sep 16, 2013

i thought i was playing normal
it could have been the shots i got in my feet
those kinda hurt


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 05:39PM Sep 16, 2013

I honestly looked over Jayo's vote. I did not mean to put Bobbi in a majority.

However....I have noticed that Slamm has not voted, she posted, but no vote....that is not like her.

I am changing my vote.
Will be back later to see if anything changes.

BTW there is just over 2 hours left in the round and I am changing my vote.


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changhill*us


Posted: 05:45PM Sep 16, 2013

Shots in your feet?

*rawr*
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JayoAie


Posted: 05:51PM Sep 16, 2013

Slam is getting my vote, I won't be on again this round

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:13PM Sep 16, 2013

bradon182001 voted for debc1
changhill voted for changhill
debc1 voted for HABS2933
guamgirl2 voted for Longhorn_fan
HABS2933 voted for Jayo
Jayo voted for slammngirl92
Longhorn_fan voted for slammngirl92
ppjones voted for The_Spider
Skybet voted for ppjones
The_Spider voted for slammngirl92


Let the games, begin!
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:18PM Sep 16, 2013

Just realized both night kills voted ppjones

Let the games, begin!
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 06:53PM Sep 16, 2013

Oopss. I forgot to save my vote. And yes, I had volleyball but that is no excuse. I even said SPV, just simply forgot to vote. I understand though for shooting me. I was "inactive".

Fearless.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:54PM Sep 16, 2013

Jayo wrote:
Habs must be a wolf, cos she voted for me


lol Jayo, that's it, I'm a wolf because I voted makes perfect sense to me. OF course that would mean I am a wolf 79.85% of the time as I vote for you regularly.

I have no idea where to place my vote, my head is dizzy reading all I missed throughout the day.

Slam has been absent, but she did say she had volleyball or softball or something like that and she wouldn't be on much today...
Going to leave my vote where it is for now I guess.


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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changhill*us


Posted: 07:02PM Sep 16, 2013

Because I can't rightly leave my vote on myself...

I am not sure how I feel about slamm. I can understand the mistake of forgetting to vote, but I would expect that she was human she would offer a counter vote/reason, because there is room to do so.Yes, spider. I know that sounds hypocritical of me...
@slamm, if you're still on, why HABBS?


*rawr*
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 07:31PM Sep 16, 2013

It was an SPV. Thats all.

Fearless.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 07:38PM Sep 16, 2013

think Spider think

anybody got anything


Let the games, begin!
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changhill*us


Posted: 07:47PM Sep 16, 2013

I am sorta present, but I don't have any reason to support a HABBS vote atm. If you have any ideas, I am all ears, but I am gonna go ahead and change my vote.

*rawr*
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:03PM Sep 16, 2013

Sorry Slamm,

but I think there's no cure for you

Sorry Slam ):


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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 08:03PM Sep 16, 2013

I am taking my vote off of HABS. Im SPVing and it looks like I'm going to get shot. There is no reason to try and save myself with such little time left.

Fearless.
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