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The Werewolf Game #2977

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 5 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 11:44AM Sep 24, 2013

2nd and 8

After Guam is carted off the field, and several quite unnecessary attempts at resuscitation by Spider, something else terrible befalls the team. All star wide receiver HABS has come down with some sort of muscle seizure and can no longer play. This is one of the few injuries that is most likely not Mob related, but nevertheless, it also affects Spider's ability to score, this time in a more football-related sense....HABS was the SEER




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JayoAie


Posted: 12:36PM Sep 24, 2013

Dang, body-blow but plenty of time to recover this fumble!

Snowmonster and Koin - my initial pairing thoughts are there

Voting Snow


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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changhill*us


Posted: 12:44PM Sep 24, 2013

Well dang! I am leaning koin and somebody else, not sure... 10 player games aren't always easy

*rawr*
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 01:05PM Sep 24, 2013

1. Flawed premise. Even if I was a wolf, how would I have any more idea habs was the seer than you all?

2. Even if I did have some idea she was seer, why bother trying to get her shot when it would be much easier to eat her?

3. Since I had no way of knowing, why eat my wolf prospect?

Either way you look at it, its ridiculous anyone would use the eating as evidence against me.

Now lets see here... its always impossible to read jayo. Kitty's more active as a wolf but that could always be caused by other circumstances. Buu is MIA. Not sure what to make of chang, I haven't seen him as a wolf in a while.

Seers are most useful in 10 player games, which is why its even worse when they get eaten round 1. Jayo seems unlikely to eat habs this early, though I wouldnt put it past chang to frame me here.

EDIT: Also, there's no reason to SPV or random vote this round, so now you're all forced to add something to the discussion.


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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 03:44PM Sep 24, 2013

Jayo wrote:
Dang, body-blow but plenty of time to recover this fumble!

Snowmonster and Koin - my initial pairing thoughts are there

Voting Snow


No explanation as to why?

Will SPV Jayo for now. May change later.


Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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JayoAie


Posted: 03:49PM Sep 24, 2013

Well, feel free to retaliate-vote, but from the small amount of knowledge available from last round, I think your posts were a little off and I am quite happy with you as my top suspect

Your post addressing Chang in round one stuck out the most and I might be wrong but the biggest wolf vibe I got was yours and so that's where I'm at

No need to SPV unfortunately but I welcome your insight and others too of course


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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 04:03PM Sep 24, 2013

Oops - and here I did read we had lost our seer, so there IS NO NEED FOR an SPV. . . . but I will keep my vote on you, but am more than willing to change it if something comes up.

Last round, I was just goofing around with chang, but if you want to take it as wolfish, go ahead. If I'm shot, others will have to look at you as a possible wolf, cause Spider will reveal that I am Human. Go with your gut though, I know there's not much to go on at this point.


Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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changhill*us


Posted: 05:05PM Sep 24, 2013

koin_era345 wrote:
1. Flawed premise. Even if I was a wolf, how would I have any more idea habs was the seer than you all?

2. Even if I did have some idea she was seer, why bother trying to get her shot when it would be much easier to eat her?

3. Since I had no way of knowing, why eat my wolf prospect?

Either way you look at it, its ridiculous anyone would use the eating as evidence against me.

The HABS eating isn't being blamed on you or even used as an accusation to shoot you this round. That said, you really didn't try to get her shot, you mentioned it, but never changed your vote. It was a half-hearted attempt. And your whole motivation for 'getting her shot' was to protect yourself from being shot yourself.

And to address the last part, 'eating your wolf suspect,' can make you come off all innocent as you are now. I don't full heartedly beleive you're a wolf as much that would warrant a shot, but you're not doing anything to help yourself. You're very defensive start off the round and you don't have any votes, just chat. I haven't read the exchange between snow or jayo, so I will look into that here in a bit...

And koin, if you're looking for a reference to my most recent wolf role, my last game #2969 I won as wolf (over our mod spider )


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debc1A


Posted: 05:11PM Sep 24, 2013

hey

nice timeout dan

i am not getting much from anyone, but koin does bother me a little just for his jumping on guam when he basically said the same thing
and now he is just paranoid

snow and jayo- i don't know, they really haven't said anything to sway me one way or another

right now going with koin
might change for a compelling reason


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changhill*us


Posted: 05:14PM Sep 24, 2013

I don't want to know about any time outs between deb and "dan"

I may post pairings later tonight, would like to see what koin has to say in response, also like to hear from kitty and Hadleigh.


*rawr*
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JayoAie


Posted: 05:20PM Sep 24, 2013

snowmonster wrote:
Go with your gut though, I know there's not much to go on at this point.


Pretty much


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kitty-cattus


Posted: 05:40PM Sep 24, 2013

Well, that's disappointing. As others have said, no need to SPV.

Koin seems to be trying too hard. Like chang said, nobody really suspected you because of the Habs eating. Prepare all the arguments you want, but it seems less suspicious if you wait until they're actually needed. But still, I don't think koin's a wolf.

There's not much to go on now. Holding off on my vote until everyone gets here.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 06:14PM Sep 24, 2013

Well first 2 posts of the round accused me, so its understandable if I think its because of something that happened during the night (ie. the eating).

Also I want to say the round might have been MoO if not for my vote on guam. I stirred the pot and it worked. kitty might be playing persistent defender here, just a thought.

@Snow there's actually a lot to go on compared to a standard round 2. Unfortunately this is a 10 person game so that doesn't give us as much of an advantage. :/

I might be coming across as paranoid but thats just because I think we have a lot to go on and im trying to piece it together while not getting shot myself.

I'll vote to defend myself if needed but my prime suspect is kitty for what I said above as well as ignoring the action last round.


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changhill*us


Posted: 06:40PM Sep 24, 2013

It's possible, but possible doesn't mean probable. And what exactly was your goal last round? Vote your suspect (HABS)? Not Get shot youself? Stir the pot? Prevent MoO? You have so many motives I can't beleive anything that you're saying right now.

Paranoid at this point is an understatement. If your prime suspect is kitty, vote kitty. Still early in the round to be voting to save yourself from being shot. Still 17 hrs to from this post.

changhill voted for koin_era345
debc1 voted for koin_era345
Jayo voted for snowmonster
snowmonster voted for Jayo


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:10PM Sep 24, 2013

Stirring the pot and preventing MoO are the same thing. You told me to offer a suggestion, so I did. I'm not voting kitty yet because I'd like input from everyone else. Any other questions?

Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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HadleighAau


Posted: 07:11PM Sep 24, 2013

What an active game. The last one I was in there were 5 of a 10 player game that had not logged on to Braingle for 3+ days. Very hard to get enthused when you have to talk to yourself.

I will need a little time to read through all these posts. Shame to lose the seer in round 1. Lucky wolves to get that one. Do we know what Guam was???

Not voting yet.


Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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changhill*us


Posted: 07:38PM Sep 24, 2013

koin_era345 wrote:
Stirring the pot and preventing MoO are the same thing. You told me to offer a suggestion, so I did. I'm not voting kitty yet because I'd like input from everyone else. Any other questions?


They can be... It's just sounds like you're trying to explain yourself after the fact. You didn't mention MoO or stiring the pot until this round. It's seems like the best time to state your intentions is when you vote and not after.


*rawr*
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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 08:11PM Sep 24, 2013

I think if koin were a wolf, he'd not bring so much attention to himself, but then I don't think we've played a lot of games together. Kitty has me wondering, so does deb and as Hadleigh. LOL Just thinking out loud I guess.

Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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HadleighAau


Posted: 01:31AM Sep 25, 2013

I have read through all the posts a couple of times now. I have been away from Braingle for a couple of years and I haven't played many WW games since I've been back. I just had a look at some completed games just to see how people play because some of you I have never played with.

I think I need a couple of rounds just to sort things out in my head. In the meantime I have voted for Deb as she seems a little quiet and from memory that's how she goes when she's a wolf. I maybe wrong.


Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes. - Oscar Wilde
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JayoAie


Posted: 02:44AM Sep 25, 2013

Koin why have you not voted?

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buu441Ain


Posted: 03:37AM Sep 25, 2013

everyone's been saying a lot here and there, and i am not getting any reads on anyone like this. it is pretty confusing, so i guess i'll hold off on voting this round as SPV is not needed....

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 06:26AM Sep 25, 2013

"Too defensive" is really not a good wolf indicator. That's been proven in many past games. I'm gonna vote jayo because I like that over snow or deb.

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JayoAie


Posted: 09:45AM Sep 25, 2013

Gee, guess I change my vote to you then Koin(!) which I am more than happy to do anyway as I suspect you as one of the 2 wolves, with Snow the other

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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 10:24AM Sep 25, 2013

With less than 2 hours left, buu is sticking out like a sore thumb with not voting and finding this round so confusing. . . . . let's see if he votes before the round is over, and who he chooses. . . . Hadleigh is holding back too - I know she's been gone for a while from these games, but still . . . . . makes me take notice. kitty is another one I'm keeping an eye on. Not too familiar with her game play.

Jayo and koin have been very outspoken this game. What a hoot it would be that they are the 2 wolves. Gotta consider everything. ;)

Changing my vote to buu this round.


Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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JayoAie


Posted: 10:45AM Sep 25, 2013

So now it is a tie between buu and Koin?
Come on guys, be more decisive than that
3 votes on Koin a short while ago and some are changing votes without posting
They warrant attention too


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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:03AM Sep 25, 2013

oh well snow. if your intention was to force a vote out of me, you are successful. putting a vote on koin to keep myself safe...

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 11:16AM Sep 25, 2013

I'm not used to 10-player games...everything goes so quickly and we have to figure things out without any evidence. Gah.

Out of the two majorities, buu seems more wolfy to me. I'll vote him.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 11:26AM Sep 25, 2013

Hey, it's interesting to see what happens when one changes their vote. . . . buu, not saying you "are" a wolf, but yea, I think it's necessary for all to vote each round, and you gave no good reason not to. kitty, you jumping on the bandwagon still has me looking at you. . . . along with chang changing his vote to buu. . . . we may be right, he may be a wolf. But if he's not, and he's shot, this is something to use next round. Are you two trying to save koin? Are both buu and koin humans and the wolves really don't care which gets shot? These things have to be weighed. . . .

And Jayo, you're pretty dern bossy. But I do agree, chang changing his vote to buu without explanation, needs attention. And if buu is shot and turns out human, he will get some attention. As will kitty, as far as I'm concerned.


Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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JayoAie


Posted: 11:44AM Sep 25, 2013

Looks like the computer is deciding again which isn't overly helpful
I really think Koin is a better shout than buu


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 12:28PM Sep 25, 2013

As the center snapped the ball, the players realized in this particular instance, being "too defensive" was the exact definition of what a werewolf was supposed to be. The ball sailed toward the endzone, and in a mighty collision both a receiver and a cornerback fell in a heap to the ground...the pass was incomplete. The refs signaled for an injury timeout, until the cornerback rose...slowly...steadily to his feet

YOU SHOT A HUMAN


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