The Werewolf Game
Game #2998: No Frills Werewolf Game 4
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RFM
Iliketrains and AngloSaxon70 were human, but neither one was the seer.
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Iliketrains and AngloSaxon70 were human, but neither one was the seer.
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Not much to be said about the eating, really.
SPV for Chris for now.
SPV for Chris for now.
Update posted
"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
I had the tiniest of premonitions about Smithtown, but was somewhat based on the possibility of Anglo being a wolf...just seemed Smithy's rationale for Train vote had a tinge of wolf in it, but that's pretty much dissolved now....anyway, all that means is Im launching a SPV straight down the pike
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
spv on longhorn for funsies
Going to SPV for Cab for now. I l have nothing to go on yet, will be back later to see if there is anything that catches my eye.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I don't have any reads from the anglosax death. So will wait to see what turns up.
*rawr*
*rawr*
I would love to say that I have an idea on who to go for, but there isn't too much evidence last round (by which I mean none )
I'll place an SPV on Putter for now
I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
I'll place an SPV on Putter for now
I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
You guys really derailed us last round
I'm going to SPV for Jem for now
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I'm going to SPV for Jem for now
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that was a sweet pun right?
btw heard the song on the radio, so out of deference, I had to repost the greatest WWG post of all time, congrats Mr Har
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
btw heard the song on the radio, so out of deference, I had to repost the greatest WWG post of all time, congrats Mr Har
Sabi nice to see you are you busy Saturday night????Oh wait I will not take on another project...It usually doesn't work out well.....I mean in the game....My cell is out of minutes I will pm you my Home Number....Hopefully you dumped your 'loser' boyfriend.....I think the sooners play the aggies...did I miss it..or is it up and coming???anyway you know I am sooners atw...Be sure to be active in this game this game..Call ME ..I cant call long distance..I am one of the few poor 'no free obama govt assisted..principled Men'....I voted for less Govt...so I didnt get a free obama phone...Any ways keep in mind everything I say here will be used against us....
..."sowing the seeds of love..the seeds of love....Sowing the seeds...."
..."sowing the seeds of love..the seeds of love....Sowing the seeds...."
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think we have some crazies among us. Looking back over last round lots of peeps were just mouthing off and piling on majorities just for the sake of. I found it off from people's general game play and I do realize the point of this game is to obscure your ID but........
Several things last round I am not fond of and will base my vote on that fact. I will explain once I have made a final decision.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Several things last round I am not fond of and will base my vote on that fact. I will explain once I have made a final decision.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
The_Spider wrote:
Why did you join my vote then? I wouldn't expect a vote from you round 1 unless I was inactive (bro code) but seems odd to join a vote you had any level of specific doubt about in round 1.
SPV for now, going to bask in the glory of the "Har Post" for a bit.
I had the tiniest of premonitions about Smithtown, but was somewhat based on the possibility of Anglo being a wolf...just seemed Smithy's rationale for Train vote had a tinge of wolf in it, but that's pretty much dissolved now....
Why did you join my vote then? I wouldn't expect a vote from you round 1 unless I was inactive (bro code) but seems odd to join a vote you had any level of specific doubt about in round 1.
SPV for now, going to bask in the glory of the "Har Post" for a bit.
I'm putting my vote on The_Spider, not really got any ideas yet. I'll be back before the end of the round though, probably for the best seeing how it all went a bit crazy last round
Posted: 01:47PM Nov 18, 2013
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I might switch to old Anglo later, doesnt have a strong activity record iirc...but we'll see
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dfamina
Posted: 01:48PM Nov 18, 2013
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Alright, well cab's made an appearance, so I think I'll change my mode of transportation. I've never taken a train before, so I think I'll try it now.
nidhogg
Posted: 02:28PM Nov 18, 2013
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A lot of needless majorities created since I was last logged in (The Spider set off some chain reaction)... I don't think caberet's done anything to deserve shooting so I will tie the majority
The_Spider
Posted: 02:59PM Nov 18, 2013
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They may not have been "needed" but the way to play the game isnt to make 15 way ties, that complete nonsense, Cab, by virtue of not voting did more than enough to be in a majority towards the end of the round. Now that she has voted, to me, it comes down to likely future inactivity or lack of utility...which i will make my mind up in a bit
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You have to believe in yourself
Smithy
Posted: 03:13PM Nov 18, 2013
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Yeah, somebody has to be shot, and nobody can really earn it in round 1 if everyone is present and active, so somebody gets unlucky.
Saying that, I think trains could be a good option, given we have a grand total of nine letters of input from them. Think I'll change to them.
(In transportation-username news I see "tractor" is online now.)
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Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
The_Spider
Posted: 04:33PM Nov 18, 2013
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its a sign
going with Trains
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You have to believe in yourself
The_Spider
Posted: 07:30PM Nov 18, 2013
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Things got real in here since I left
oh well, no sense changing anything now that I'm back in the atmosphere....sticking with Train
All of THIS. This is not normal behivior from either of these players and I find it off, however...I am not wolf food and generally smithy and dan eat me in round one....there are 3 wolves though so smithy's vote might have been pushed over
Like what you love, and love what you got.
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I might switch to old Anglo later, doesnt have a strong activity record iirc...but we'll see
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dfamina
Posted: 01:48PM Nov 18, 2013
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Alright, well cab's made an appearance, so I think I'll change my mode of transportation. I've never taken a train before, so I think I'll try it now.
nidhogg
Posted: 02:28PM Nov 18, 2013
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A lot of needless majorities created since I was last logged in (The Spider set off some chain reaction)... I don't think caberet's done anything to deserve shooting so I will tie the majority
The_Spider
Posted: 02:59PM Nov 18, 2013
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They may not have been "needed" but the way to play the game isnt to make 15 way ties, that complete nonsense, Cab, by virtue of not voting did more than enough to be in a majority towards the end of the round. Now that she has voted, to me, it comes down to likely future inactivity or lack of utility...which i will make my mind up in a bit
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You have to believe in yourself
Smithy
Posted: 03:13PM Nov 18, 2013
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Yeah, somebody has to be shot, and nobody can really earn it in round 1 if everyone is present and active, so somebody gets unlucky.
Saying that, I think trains could be a good option, given we have a grand total of nine letters of input from them. Think I'll change to them.
(In transportation-username news I see "tractor" is online now.)
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Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
The_Spider
Posted: 04:33PM Nov 18, 2013
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its a sign
going with Trains
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You have to believe in yourself
The_Spider
Posted: 07:30PM Nov 18, 2013
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Things got real in here since I left
oh well, no sense changing anything now that I'm back in the atmosphere....sticking with Train
All of THIS. This is not normal behivior from either of these players and I find it off, however...I am not wolf food and generally smithy and dan eat me in round one....there are 3 wolves though so smithy's vote might have been pushed over
Like what you love, and love what you got.
SPVing at this moment.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I am sorry if all that is confusing but it is straight out of the end of last round if anyone needs to look for clarification.
With the banter I think it safe to say that both are not wolves but possible one is.
Voting Dan for time being
The_Spider
Like what you love, and love what you got.
With the banter I think it safe to say that both are not wolves but possible one is.
Voting Dan for time being
The_Spider
Like what you love, and love what you got.
If anything, I would say that's less banter than we would normally engage in at that stage. Hardly a deviation from "normal behavior".
I do like that there's plenty flying around already though, makes for a more interesting game.
Just waiting on Chris and Cab for a full house. Switching to chang for the time being to discourage the self vote - a peaceful protest.
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I do like that there's plenty flying around already though, makes for a more interesting game.
Just waiting on Chris and Cab for a full house. Switching to chang for the time being to discourage the self vote - a peaceful protest.
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Throwing out an SPV for now..
Beaches and Fire, tis all I need right now!
Peaceful you say? *look of uncertainty* xD
LH, I am looking on my phone, could you edit your post so I can follow.
*rawr*
LH, I am looking on my phone, could you edit your post so I can follow.
*rawr*
I still don't have much to say, other than the fact that Smithy and Spid's exchange doesn't really seem odd, though LH seems more agitated than normal. (I'm not using that as basis for suspicion, just noting it) Like Smithy said, that's pretty normal for them. Probably not even worth saying, but I felt that I should pop in and say hello.
And I'm sure cab will pop up eventually, so I'm not going to change my vote just now.
And I'm sure cab will pop up eventually, so I'm not going to change my vote just now.
If Cab doesn't show by the time I go to bed, I'll be leaving my SPV on her. If she does show, depending on what she has to say, I'll consider changing. I'm beginning to get a vague suspicion, but will hold off on acting on it until later, also giving that suspect a chance to do more than SPV.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
maybe i should rewrite this post in a more measured fashion
1) I 100% expected Nidhoggs vote for me on my way home, SPV or not it was probly the most predictable vote I've ever encountered in a round 2. I honestly kind of feel needing to defend myself is beneath me at this point....yes that is the measured version of this post .
its nice to see Longhorn is still making everything about herself, all we need is an epilogue post about how she KNEW who the wolves were right as she was eaten and she'll be right on pace, PS. I believe I voted to eat you in round one a grand total of once, but thats ok, my vote for you was probably just overidden right
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
1) I 100% expected Nidhoggs vote for me on my way home, SPV or not it was probly the most predictable vote I've ever encountered in a round 2. I honestly kind of feel needing to defend myself is beneath me at this point....yes that is the measured version of this post .
its nice to see Longhorn is still making everything about herself, all we need is an epilogue post about how she KNEW who the wolves were right as she was eaten and she'll be right on pace, PS. I believe I voted to eat you in round one a grand total of once, but thats ok, my vote for you was probably just overidden right
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Hello everyone. Phew, but this was a loooong day.
I'm reading Smithy as human this go round. Not sure what to make of LH. She posted chatter, but without much reason near as I can tell.
SPVing for someone without a vote. Or someone that catches my eye.
Edit: Skybet had no votes, so that's where I am. Subject to change...
Re-edit: All this convo re. cab (mainly in LH's quote) and this ad is at the top of my page:
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
I'm reading Smithy as human this go round. Not sure what to make of LH. She posted chatter, but without much reason near as I can tell.
SPVing for someone without a vote. Or someone that catches my eye.
Edit: Skybet had no votes, so that's where I am. Subject to change...
Re-edit: All this convo re. cab (mainly in LH's quote) and this ad is at the top of my page:
Alameda Taxi Cab
www.alamedasaitaxi.com
25% off: We accept all credit cards 24/7 Reliable & Comfort Taxi Svc
Coincidence? Perhaps. But funny nevertheless
www.alamedasaitaxi.com
25% off: We accept all credit cards 24/7 Reliable & Comfort Taxi Svc
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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
bradon182001 voted for caberet
caberet voted for Skybet
changhill voted for changhill
dfamina voted for PianistChris
HarryPutter voted for jeminy
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan
nidhogg voted for The_Spider
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Skybet voted for dfamina
Smithy voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for nidhogg
Changing my vote to mbrady. Haven't been able to really analyze this round, but people who only post votes or don't post at all are never any help.
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caberet voted for Skybet
changhill voted for changhill
dfamina voted for PianistChris
HarryPutter voted for jeminy
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan
nidhogg voted for The_Spider
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Skybet voted for dfamina
Smithy voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for nidhogg
Changing my vote to mbrady. Haven't been able to really analyze this round, but people who only post votes or don't post at all are never any help.
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changhill wrote:
Peaceful, aside from the possible silver bullet-related side effects, of course.
HarryPutter wrote:
Who did and how?
EDIT: Chang's tags played havoc with my post.
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Peaceful you say? *look of uncertainty* xD
Peaceful, aside from the possible silver bullet-related side effects, of course.
HarryPutter wrote:
You guys really derailed us last round
Who did and how?
EDIT: Chang's tags played havoc with my post.
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Well the round has certainly got more interesting from when I last checked.
Some ideas have been put out but I haven't really been captured by any of them so I think I'm just going to stick with my SPV.
Hopefully, I'll get on by the end of the round to give something stronger when I have more time to think.
I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
Some ideas have been put out but I haven't really been captured by any of them so I think I'm just going to stick with my SPV.
Hopefully, I'll get on by the end of the round to give something stronger when I have more time to think.
I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
I feel I should have more to say round 2, I'm not feeling exceptionally useful.
Nobody is seeming particularly out of the ordinary thus far. Spid's new avi is especially horrifying, though. And will turn out to be quite amusing if he turns out to be a wolf, but I have nothing to really suspect that to be the case.
Smithy is rather stepping things up this game, posts aplenty.
I had my suspicions about the eating, I think the regs were quite likely to eat anglo.
HarryPutter wrote:
Yeah because you've said loads. You can never resist a dig, Putter.
I'm probably going to end up voting inactive again, I have a feeling, and then see where we go from there.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Nobody is seeming particularly out of the ordinary thus far. Spid's new avi is especially horrifying, though. And will turn out to be quite amusing if he turns out to be a wolf, but I have nothing to really suspect that to be the case.
Smithy is rather stepping things up this game, posts aplenty.
I had my suspicions about the eating, I think the regs were quite likely to eat anglo.
HarryPutter wrote:
Changing my vote to mbrady. Haven't been able to really analyze this round, but people who only post votes or don't post at all are never any help.
Yeah because you've said loads. You can never resist a dig, Putter.
I'm probably going to end up voting inactive again, I have a feeling, and then see where we go from there.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I think I'm going to change to Chris. I know he has just started playing Warcraft and his attention is elsewhere. He hasn't said a lot so far this game, either. He can save himself by coming on with a good post before the end of the round today.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
The_Spider wrote:
Why are you so worked up about this? First of all I voted for you because you'd already voted for me and you were the only one I had any suspicions of so far. As you say it was 100% predictable, so what's the problem?
"Beneath me"... seriously?
More relevantly Longhorn seems a lot more active and is throwing around more theories than I expected- I haven't played with her much but it still seems a bit forced. Maybe something to keep an eye on
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maybe i should rewrite this post in a more measured fashion
1) I 100% expected Nidhoggs vote for me on my way home, SPV or not it was probly the most predictable vote I've ever encountered in a round 2.
1) I 100% expected Nidhoggs vote for me on my way home, SPV or not it was probly the most predictable vote I've ever encountered in a round 2.
Why are you so worked up about this? First of all I voted for you because you'd already voted for me and you were the only one I had any suspicions of so far. As you say it was 100% predictable, so what's the problem?
I honestly kind of feel needing to defend myself is beneath me at this point....yes that is the measured version of this post .
"Beneath me"... seriously?
More relevantly Longhorn seems a lot more active and is throwing around more theories than I expected- I haven't played with her much but it still seems a bit forced. Maybe something to keep an eye on
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nidhogg wrote:
Spid has a bit of an elitist view when it comes to WWG (and sometimes in life in general ), so don't take it to heart when he comes across a little arrogant like that. He's generally harmless. But he is pretty good at WWG, so it's worth listening to what he says - not to swell his head any more, he might not fit through doors soon.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Why are you so worked up about this? First of all I voted for you because you'd already voted for me and you were the only one I had any suspicions of so far. As you say it was 100% predictable, so what's the problem?
Spid has a bit of an elitist view when it comes to WWG (and sometimes in life in general ), so don't take it to heart when he comes across a little arrogant like that. He's generally harmless. But he is pretty good at WWG, so it's worth listening to what he says - not to swell his head any more, he might not fit through doors soon.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Skybet wrote:
Spid has a bit of an elitist view when it comes to WWG (and sometimes in life in general ), so don't take it to heart when he comes across a little arrogant like that. He's generally harmless. But he is pretty good at WWG, so it's worth listening to what he says - not to swell his head any more, he might not fit through doors soon.
Fair enough, I'm keeping my vote on him for now though I don't really know anyone's style of play yet so I'm just going on hunches at the moment! If Spid has any thoughts I'm happy to hear them.
Spid has a bit of an elitist view when it comes to WWG (and sometimes in life in general ), so don't take it to heart when he comes across a little arrogant like that. He's generally harmless. But he is pretty good at WWG, so it's worth listening to what he says - not to swell his head any more, he might not fit through doors soon.
Fair enough, I'm keeping my vote on him for now though I don't really know anyone's style of play yet so I'm just going on hunches at the moment! If Spid has any thoughts I'm happy to hear them.
Cause you seem to play by the archaic notion that wolf players are spastic and stupid and human players should be gutless robots playing in an assembly line. Its like a cat following a laser pointer, any kind of 'motion' enthralls them. You're suspicious cause I did "something", this kind of suspicion is fine in the public games, this is the big leagues
Yes beneath me, and that is my friendly way of putting it, and you best believe I'm serious
sky (I know your avi comment is mostly innocuous) but you know I used this avi in chat when Windsor was on her cat/dog spree...but it just reminded me of it and I got sick of using my stick figure drawing. As always I'm inclined to go with one of the lesser actives (also Smithy I think Harry was just making a pun about 'derailing' Trains, but I could be wrong.
Will switch my vote and post the updated list when i make a decision
bradon182001 voted for caberet
caberet voted for Skybet
changhill voted for changhill
dfamina voted for PianistChris
HarryPutter voted for mbrady89
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan
nidhogg voted for The_Spider
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Skybet voted for PianistChris
Smithy voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for caberet
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Yes beneath me, and that is my friendly way of putting it, and you best believe I'm serious
sky (I know your avi comment is mostly innocuous) but you know I used this avi in chat when Windsor was on her cat/dog spree...but it just reminded me of it and I got sick of using my stick figure drawing. As always I'm inclined to go with one of the lesser actives (also Smithy I think Harry was just making a pun about 'derailing' Trains, but I could be wrong.
Will switch my vote and post the updated list when i make a decision
bradon182001 voted for caberet
caberet voted for Skybet
changhill voted for changhill
dfamina voted for PianistChris
HarryPutter voted for mbrady89
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan
nidhogg voted for The_Spider
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Skybet voted for PianistChris
Smithy voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for caberet
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The_Spider wrote:
Well in a tie where everyone has one vote each, it's more likely to randomly hit a wolf than if certain people are starting majorities and manipulating opinion based on absolutely nothing- since the wolves know each other's identities, it'll probably just take out a human (which happened). Your actions protected you, scapegoated someone else and weren't necessarily for the overall good of the team.
There are "big leagues" on Braingle? I don't really care if you consider it "beneath you" to interact with me, I think it's beneath me to enter an online pissing contest
Cause you seem to play by the archaic notion that wolf players are spastic and stupid and human players should be gutless robots playing in an assembly line. Its like a cat following a laser pointer, any kind of 'motion' enthralls them.
Well in a tie where everyone has one vote each, it's more likely to randomly hit a wolf than if certain people are starting majorities and manipulating opinion based on absolutely nothing- since the wolves know each other's identities, it'll probably just take out a human (which happened). Your actions protected you, scapegoated someone else and weren't necessarily for the overall good of the team.
You're suspicious cause I did "something", this kind of suspicion is fine in the public games, this is the big leagues
Yes beneath me, and that is my friendly way of putting it, and you best believe I'm serious
Yes beneath me, and that is my friendly way of putting it, and you best believe I'm serious
There are "big leagues" on Braingle? I don't really care if you consider it "beneath you" to interact with me, I think it's beneath me to enter an online pissing contest
As far as less active folks go, I'm already on one, so I don't see a need to switch unless he shows back up. He's tied with brady as far as anything meaningful goes (this round, anyway), and I don't have any clear hunches just now, but there seems to be a lot of back and forth between folks. They all involve Spid, but that's hardly surprising seeing as how he gets flack if he blinks too often these days.
Spid, how do you manage to get into these exchanges in every game?
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Spid, how do you manage to get into these exchanges in every game?
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If my post seemed "forced" and "about me" then what ever y'all think.
I was simply commenting on the banter between the players and how it was centered around shooting a particular player with no real reason except that they are new to the group and would probably be inactive.
Harry's post about not contributing also seems odd.
I am with Sky that I think the regs are among the wolves.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
I was simply commenting on the banter between the players and how it was centered around shooting a particular player with no real reason except that they are new to the group and would probably be inactive.
Harry's post about not contributing also seems odd.
I am with Sky that I think the regs are among the wolves.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
As far as I am concern, most of the exchanges spider finds himself into are his own doing... with a few exceptions *winkwink*
I guess I will be changing my vote... there's a few quarrels going on but nothing to really read into. I could play it safe and vote inactive, but it thinks in this game inactivity doesn't mean wolf. Everyone is actively logging in. Night didn't time out. I am gonna take a risk and make a clear majority.
*rawr*
I guess I will be changing my vote... there's a few quarrels going on but nothing to really read into. I could play it safe and vote inactive, but it thinks in this game inactivity doesn't mean wolf. Everyone is actively logging in. Night didn't time out. I am gonna take a risk and make a clear majority.
*rawr*
bradon182001 voted for caberet
The_Spider voted for caberet
dfamina voted for PianistChris
Skybet voted for PianistChris
nidhogg voted for The_Spider
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
caberet voted for Skybet
HarryPutter voted for mbrady89 (reasonable round 2 vote)
jeminy voted for HarryPutter (spv, that's not helping)
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan (nothing can be read from this)
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Smithy voted for changhill (an overstayed peaceful protest)
Wow, there is an extreme lacking of majorities to choose from. And none of them are fully developed. Each 'victim' hasn't voted to save their life. So I will leave those alone. I could play it safe and put another inactive-ish player in the majority (mbrady). I am feeling jeminy based on the detachment from the game. LH is playing strong so I will leave that alone, keep at it (sorta).*** At this point I realized that spider was in a majority. Whether you like/dislike his attitude/confidence/ego, he a reputation that does place him above most people. And you may get angry or upset by that statement, but he puts in the effort and logic that makes him worth keeping. While it's wrong for him to assume that for himself and not his fellow players, he can be put off till mid-game.
***EDIT TO ADD***
Spider at the moment is worth keeping unless he'd like to cause more problems than he's worth. I will end up saving him, unless he's willing to be risky and join me in an option 3 vote for someone else (not nidhogg revenge).I can check in after my first class, so changing my vote won't be an issue, but posting will be. So I can:
1) pick between cab and PC, with no action from spider
2) if spider wants to work together, then join in on a vote (jeminy, or df)
3) create a possible third minor majority
4) on the rare occasion that PC or cab show up then that just screws everything up
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*rawr*
The_Spider voted for caberet
dfamina voted for PianistChris
Skybet voted for PianistChris
nidhogg voted for The_Spider
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
caberet voted for Skybet
HarryPutter voted for mbrady89 (reasonable round 2 vote)
jeminy voted for HarryPutter (spv, that's not helping)
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan (nothing can be read from this)
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Smithy voted for changhill (an overstayed peaceful protest)
Wow, there is an extreme lacking of majorities to choose from. And none of them are fully developed. Each 'victim' hasn't voted to save their life. So I will leave those alone. I could play it safe and put another inactive-ish player in the majority (mbrady). I am feeling jeminy based on the detachment from the game. LH is playing strong so I will leave that alone, keep at it (sorta).*** At this point I realized that spider was in a majority. Whether you like/dislike his attitude/confidence/ego, he a reputation that does place him above most people. And you may get angry or upset by that statement, but he puts in the effort and logic that makes him worth keeping. While it's wrong for him to assume that for himself and not his fellow players, he can be put off till mid-game.
***EDIT TO ADD***
Spider at the moment is worth keeping unless he'd like to cause more problems than he's worth. I will end up saving him, unless he's willing to be risky and join me in an option 3 vote for someone else (not nidhogg revenge).I can check in after my first class, so changing my vote won't be an issue, but posting will be. So I can:
1) pick between cab and PC, with no action from spider
2) if spider wants to work together, then join in on a vote (jeminy, or df)
3) create a possible third minor majority
4) on the rare occasion that PC or cab show up then that just screws everything up
---This message was edited on 2013-11-20 07:47:43---
*rawr*
There's much I could say regarding the uselessness of the "15 player tie" mindset, I admit I jumped a bit too aggressive at the outset here and will leave it be.
Im thinking about voting Mbrady, again for his marginal utility.....but still a few hours left
actually will vote Mbrady now in response to chang (though to be clear, my vote for Nidhogg was first so it wasnt a revenge vote of any sort)
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Im thinking about voting Mbrady, again for his marginal utility.....but still a few hours left
actually will vote Mbrady now in response to chang (though to be clear, my vote for Nidhogg was first so it wasnt a revenge vote of any sort)
---This message was edited on 2013-11-20 08:04:32---
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The_Spider wrote:
Yup, you pretty much proved everything I said about your outlook on the game. 15 player ties DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, THEY DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to further the game, I voted based on practical activity level/utility level. I play the same way everytime and so do most experience players. You're way of playing the game isnt a game at all, and your guesses at my motives, once again, demonstrate I was exactly right about what I said.
You haven't actually addressed what I said. If there are flaws in my logic please feel free to point them out. I would appreciate that instead of another argument from authority.
Elicit*
As you yourself pointed out, I'm a "new guy", so I can't be expected to know your preferred methods. I just pointed out something I thought was suspicious and you've worked yourself up over how I have the nerve to question you. If you refuse to defend yourself why should I change my opinion?
Dfam: this one was admittedly, mostly my fault, but like I said, it gets annoying when you've been playing the same aggressive style for 3 years, and one of the "new" guys in the group thinks I'm suspicious based on cliche WWG 101 stuff.
You're certainly doing your bit to make the new guy feel welcome, if this is how you react to someone joining your clique maybe I won't bother in future
Yup, you pretty much proved everything I said about your outlook on the game. 15 player ties DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, THEY DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to further the game, I voted based on practical activity level/utility level. I play the same way everytime and so do most experience players. You're way of playing the game isnt a game at all, and your guesses at my motives, once again, demonstrate I was exactly right about what I said.
You haven't actually addressed what I said. If there are flaws in my logic please feel free to point them out. I would appreciate that instead of another argument from authority.
Never said it was beneath me to interact with you, said it was beneath me to have to defend myself for something I do every single time I play in Round 2. And of course there are big leagues, as with literally every single other thing in life, some groups are more skilled than others, just as the games among the "Regulars" are of higher caliber than the public games. This should not illicit a scoff
Elicit*
As you yourself pointed out, I'm a "new guy", so I can't be expected to know your preferred methods. I just pointed out something I thought was suspicious and you've worked yourself up over how I have the nerve to question you. If you refuse to defend yourself why should I change my opinion?
Dfam: this one was admittedly, mostly my fault, but like I said, it gets annoying when you've been playing the same aggressive style for 3 years, and one of the "new" guys in the group thinks I'm suspicious based on cliche WWG 101 stuff.
You're certainly doing your bit to make the new guy feel welcome, if this is how you react to someone joining your clique maybe I won't bother in future
I addressed (or responded) if you prefer to your post in the way I intended and I'm fine with it.
As for the other stuff, I honestly don't really care what you think of me, or whether I make minor grammatical errors in a forum post.
Again I admit, I was wrong about how I initially responded to the situation and will just let it drop.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
As for the other stuff, I honestly don't really care what you think of me, or whether I make minor grammatical errors in a forum post.
Again I admit, I was wrong about how I initially responded to the situation and will just let it drop.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Are all the toys back in the pram now?
I know it's old hat to you, Spid, but nidhogg is fairly new to this game. And I'm sure you well know without new players, this game on this site could well start dying a rather painful death. It's important to be patient, we don't want to scare everyone who shows an interest in the game off.
Basically nidhogg, a first round MoO (Majority of One) really has no benefit to the future of the game. With people spicing things up and creating majorities you can begin to see patterns, who is colluding with who, who is being saved, and who is being freely condemned. All of these things, apart from finding wolves, also helps to eliminate certain pairings of wolves also. Basically, there is lots that can be learned from round one, that we wouldn't otherwise from an MoO. Yes, the majority will be, in essence, "random", but in the same vein, it's also worthwhile trying to shoot a less active/less helpful player than risk a very helpful contributor from being shot in round one. I hope this kinda makes sense and isn't garbled rubbish. I have just woken up from a nap.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I know it's old hat to you, Spid, but nidhogg is fairly new to this game. And I'm sure you well know without new players, this game on this site could well start dying a rather painful death. It's important to be patient, we don't want to scare everyone who shows an interest in the game off.
Basically nidhogg, a first round MoO (Majority of One) really has no benefit to the future of the game. With people spicing things up and creating majorities you can begin to see patterns, who is colluding with who, who is being saved, and who is being freely condemned. All of these things, apart from finding wolves, also helps to eliminate certain pairings of wolves also. Basically, there is lots that can be learned from round one, that we wouldn't otherwise from an MoO. Yes, the majority will be, in essence, "random", but in the same vein, it's also worthwhile trying to shoot a less active/less helpful player than risk a very helpful contributor from being shot in round one. I hope this kinda makes sense and isn't garbled rubbish. I have just woken up from a nap.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
@spider, I just meant that if you chose to join with me then I would not if you picked nihogg (spelling?)
Well I'll give more time before my change and let things settle. See ya in an hour.
*rawr*
Well I'll give more time before my change and let things settle. See ya in an hour.
*rawr*
Skybet wrote:
Basically nidhogg, a first round MoO (Majority of One) really has no benefit to the future of the game. With people spicing things up and creating majorities you can begin to see patterns, who is colluding with who, who is being saved, and who is being freely condemned. All of these things, apart from finding wolves, also helps to eliminate certain pairings of wolves also. Basically, there is lots that can be learned from round one, that we wouldn't otherwise from an MoO. Yes, the majority will be, in essence, "random", but in the same vein, it's also worthwhile trying to shoot a less active/less helpful player than risk a very helpful contributor from being shot in round one. I hope this kinda makes sense and isn't garbled rubbish. I have just woken up from a nap.
Your post does make a lot of sense, I guess my question is how do you choose the least helpful player? Because the wolves have the strength of numbers couldn't they take advantage of the majorities to shoot whoever they like?
Thanks for taking the time to explain
Basically nidhogg, a first round MoO (Majority of One) really has no benefit to the future of the game. With people spicing things up and creating majorities you can begin to see patterns, who is colluding with who, who is being saved, and who is being freely condemned. All of these things, apart from finding wolves, also helps to eliminate certain pairings of wolves also. Basically, there is lots that can be learned from round one, that we wouldn't otherwise from an MoO. Yes, the majority will be, in essence, "random", but in the same vein, it's also worthwhile trying to shoot a less active/less helpful player than risk a very helpful contributor from being shot in round one. I hope this kinda makes sense and isn't garbled rubbish. I have just woken up from a nap.
Your post does make a lot of sense, I guess my question is how do you choose the least helpful player? Because the wolves have the strength of numbers couldn't they take advantage of the majorities to shoot whoever they like?
Thanks for taking the time to explain
Well, we all have certain experience with certain players on here, and know whether they will just state an SPV each round, or try and come up with some decent logic. It's not meant in a hurtful way, but some players are of less "use" to the humans later in a game. Whereas people like Spid are bona fide wolf hunters. But I tend to take most of what he says early in the game with a pinch of salt until I'm sure he is human, because he will be just as good at leading you astray.
But, to iterate the point, round 1 is not mainly for shooting inactives/less useful players, that is a bonus, really. The round 1 majorities are essential to look back on later in the game. And we do quite often hit a wolf, so I wouldn't say one way or the other is better for hitting wolves. It still remains 20% really.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
But, to iterate the point, round 1 is not mainly for shooting inactives/less useful players, that is a bonus, really. The round 1 majorities are essential to look back on later in the game. And we do quite often hit a wolf, so I wouldn't say one way or the other is better for hitting wolves. It still remains 20% really.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I would add just a bit to Sky's comments about MoO. While statistically there's a better chance of getting a wolf with no majorities, it involves no strategy and it's just plain boring. It's essentially a 15-man (or however many are left) Russian Roulette. It also feels like a cop-out to avoid having to feel guilty about who you may shoot. (If guilt can even be said to exist in WWG.) I know this is more a matter of opinion as opposed to Sky's explanation being founded in logic, but I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way. (If I am, that's fine, too.)
That's about all I've got. I apologize if it feels like we're ganging up on you; that certainly isn't the intent.
Now back to your regularly scheduled wolf hunt.
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That's about all I've got. I apologize if it feels like we're ganging up on you; that certainly isn't the intent.
Now back to your regularly scheduled wolf hunt.
---This message was edited on 2013-11-20 09:32:01---
The most dangerous players in WWG are those who say little/nothing. You can't tell a human from a wolf based on a few sentences, that's why they need to go early, when no patterns of behavoir can be developed and analysis based on eatings is minimal
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Thanks to both of you for your explanations! Don't worry dfamina- I'm inexperienced so I'm very interested in your views on the game! I don't see it as ganging up at all
is there any reason you two are keeping Chris in a tied majority? maybe I missed it
though I guess with one 'SPV' post I see no issue with it haha
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
though I guess with one 'SPV' post I see no issue with it haha
---This message was edited on 2013-11-20 10:07:34---
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Chris is -the- majority now; chang just moved his vote. I didn't change mine because he's as inactive as brady's been this round. I know Chris is usually pretty active, so I may yet change my vote, but I saw him log on maybe an hour or so ago and he didn't make an appearance.
Brady seems more inclined to vote against me than Chris so that was a slight piece of my motivation pie cant fault the Chris votes though
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Yea my vote is changed. Not much more I can add this round.
*rawr*
*rawr*
If Chris is the seer I will legit punch him.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I would hardly be surprised. Seers have such a short life span anymore.
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It takes 7 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for caberet
caberet voted for Skybet
changhill voted for PianistChris
dfamina voted for PianistChris
HarryPutter voted for mbrady89
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan
nidhogg voted for nidhogg
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Skybet voted for PianistChris
Smithy voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for mbrady89
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet
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vOTING LIST WITH 40 MINUTES LEFT IN ROUND.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
It takes 7 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
bradon182001 voted for caberet
caberet voted for Skybet
changhill voted for PianistChris
dfamina voted for PianistChris
HarryPutter voted for mbrady89
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for The_Spider
mbrady89 voted for Longhorn_fan
nidhogg voted for nidhogg
PianistChris voted for bradon182001
Skybet voted for PianistChris
Smithy voted for changhill
The_Spider voted for mbrady89
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet
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vOTING LIST WITH 40 MINUTES LEFT IN ROUND.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
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