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The Werewolf Game #2998

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 7 rounds.

Discussion of Round #4

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dfamina


Posted: 05:29PM Nov 21, 2013

RFM
Sorry so late in the round. 12 hrs and 25 mins left.

nidhogg was human. changhill was the seer.


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dfamina


Posted: 05:54PM Nov 21, 2013

I'll be back later to look this over.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 06:36PM Nov 21, 2013

SPV for jem

bb after shower and misc.

waiting to see if Chang was seer, but either way I think jem is a decent bet


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Smithy*en


Posted: 08:26PM Nov 21, 2013

Super duper sorry I missed last round everyone, if I could SPV twice to make it up to you all I would.

SPVing once for now anyway.

Regarding the MoO comments, not only do you risk shooting a good player early doors (and yes it is completely valid and fair to categorise some players as too good to shoot round one (unless inactive)), but I'd like to think that even by round 2 most people's judgement is better than complete blind luck.

Regarding the comments about spid, it's pretty ridiculous to accuse someone for stating clears (a common tactic), especially when they're so mind-blowingly obvious as "those three that shot the wolf are probably clear". Doubly-especially after the best choice, Sky, was already taken out before that comment - it's not like he had to flag it up to his partners who were missing it. All of the reasons posited against spid so far are pretty lame, he might be a wolf but if someone's trying to convince us they'll have to do better.

And yes spid needs to cool his jets generally. The downside of being such a testosterone-fueled hunkazoid I guess.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:28PM Nov 21, 2013

hi

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Smithy*en


Posted: 08:28PM Nov 21, 2013

*swoon*

"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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Smithy*en


Posted: 08:35PM Nov 21, 2013

Had another quick look through the previous rounds, jem seems a decent shout in a nonspecific sort of way. I did think cab might be suspicious for what I took to be poor reasoning against spid but LH make a valid point about her being generally pretty quiet when a wolf.

It's a bit late now though so I'll wait until tomorrow before throwing out anything more solid. Hopefully round four is late enough to hear from Guru Putter (and may I request explanations not just statements (and/or awesome puns that I missed because I already forgot the name of the person shot)).


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"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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caberetAus


Posted: 09:14PM Nov 21, 2013

They ate changhill?

I'm going to check back into last round to see what I missed...

Edit: I'm all read up.

So Nidhogg the human ate silver last round, which helped Spidey and me stay safe. Seems to me that if... nvm. That didn't pan out at all.

I'm voting for Jeminy on the possibility that chang's suspicion of Jeminy might have been right.

Re-Edit: My vote for Jeminy puts him in an early and slight maj since Spidey is also voting that way.

I'm too tired to do any more. 12 hour day... I should be able to check back later. Unless I crash...


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"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 09:35PM Nov 21, 2013

caberet wrote:
They ate changhill?

I'm going to check back into last round to see what I missed...

Edit: I'm all read up.

So Nidhogg the human ate silver last round, which helped Spidey and me stay safe. Seems to me that if... nvm. That didn't pan out at all.

I'm voting for Jeminy on the possibility that chang's suspicion of Jeminy might have been right.

Re-Edit: My vote for Jeminy puts him in an early and slight maj since Spidey is also voting that way.

I'm too tired to do any more. 12 hour day... I should be able to check back later. Unless I crash...


I dont find anything about this suspicious except for the fact that you italicized if. The mid thought change of mind indicated by ..... just seems to contrast with the fact you took the time to italicize it. Probly making something out of nothing, at the least, a bit curious what you were thinking anyway


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dfamina


Posted: 10:38PM Nov 21, 2013

Well it probably doesn't need to be said, but jem and cab are on my list at the moment. (Just to note, cab's early majority on jem this round has nothing to do with it) I'd be willing to lean either way, so I'm going to hold my vote for now.

Cab, I'm actually wondering where you were headed with that, too. You're in a position where extra input could hardly hurt.
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caberetAus


Posted: 11:22PM Nov 21, 2013

Lol, I just didn't erase enough!

I was thinking that if Spidey was human, then the 2 remaining wolves, or at least 1 of them, was not in the nidhogg maj. But there were only 2 votes, nid and Spidey.

Anyhow, I'm tired. Looooong day. The power is out all around us. Fingers crossed...

Nighty night...


"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 11:36PM Nov 21, 2013

I only have a few suspects left, so I'm fairly comfortable with the jem majority (he's one of them), but I would like to see what he has to say first.

Even if chang wasn;t the seer, it seems like the wolves thought he just might be. I'll stay out of majorities with an SPV for now.


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"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - Nietzsche
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caberetAus


Posted: 11:55PM Nov 21, 2013

Still no updates.

I probably won't be able to check back again, so this is it.

I'm changing my vote to HP who doesn't seem his usual self this game. HIs posting above seems contrived. And wolfie.


"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
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Smithy*en


Posted: 01:15AM Nov 22, 2013

Nothing's changed since last night so I'll wait until after work before making my non-SPV vote. I should be back with about four hours of the round left.

"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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jeminyten


Posted: 03:41AM Nov 22, 2013

I'm getting the feeling that cab is human. If she were a wolf then she could've just placed a vote on me leaving me more doomed to my fate. Obviously, that's assuming I'm human from you guys but if I do get shot think about it. Back on to the subject of me, I have a feeling that one of the people casting suspicion on me is a wolf.

I think I'm going to vote Putter. He's in the group which has suspicion for me, he is apparently not playing like his usual self (just saying that I don't really see these things but I did want to make the list have 3 reasons because 3 is a good number ) and the votes from previous rounds could possibly match votes a wolf would do, even if the timing in the round is off.

It's not exactly the strongest reasoning in the universe of WWG but it's the strongest that I've come up with this game and I can't be picky at this stage.


I had a signature but then I forgot it 0.o
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RhythmicAus


Posted: 04:23AM Nov 22, 2013

Ids posted

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 05:57AM Nov 22, 2013

Chang was seer, they could have just been eating him for his role in the Chris shooting and got lucky, or...it could be further evidence against Jem. Jem's last post reads pretty wolfy to me to, and that was before I had seen the confirmation that Chang was seer.

I don't think Harry is a wolf (though he could be) he's been a bit too lame if that's the case

suggest Jem as the best majority, especially after his choice to defer posting last round in a critical situation (he was on: you tend to notice who's on when your butt's on the line)


Let the games, begin!
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dfamina


Posted: 07:40AM Nov 22, 2013

I can agree with cab on Harry not quite playing up to his usual standards. I've seen him play this way as a wolf and as a human, so I can't call him one way or the other now. (C'mon, Harrius. ) I'm getting used to the Seer dying early in games I play, so this one comes as little surprise. I suppose this is why he wasn't being as... chang as usual. (His name is an adjective in itself)

I like that jem's talking just a little more, but he hasn't done much to allay my suspicions, and his post boils down to "Voting Harry because he's targeting me".

So, voting jem.
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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:09AM Nov 22, 2013

my primitive analysis

If Harry is a wolf, Bradon is not
If Jem is a wolf, Cab is not

major breakthroughs guys


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 08:32AM Nov 22, 2013

Good morning.
Not having the best of weeks. A dear friend of mine passed last night.
I am not going to pile on the jem vote.
I am voting for harry


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 08:56AM Nov 22, 2013

Good morning. My deepest sympathy, LH. It's never easy to lose a loved one.

I'd like to try and figure out Spider's primitive analysis, but there isn't enough time left in the round for me to do that. So, obviously since I know I'm human, I probably should join the Harry vote, but I'm not convinced he's a wolf. So, let's see where we stand with the 2nd paring. Will vote Jeminy. I've played in games with him where he tends to stay in the background as a wolf and has been quite successful.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 08:59AM Nov 22, 2013

Well the reverse isnt true (neccessarily) of my analysis i.e. If Bradon is a human Harry is a wolf. Its a one way street

but anyway, its just based on Harry's somewhat needless assertion that you were human last round and the same of Jem's latest post in regards to Cab

bradon182001 voted for jeminy
caberet voted for HarryPutter
dfamina voted for jeminy
HarryPutter voted for Longhorn_fan
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for HarryPutter
Smithy voted for dfamina
The_Spider voted for jeminy

I think the Harry majority is somewhat reaching considering Jem seems a better bet, mainly due to Chang's role as seer. Piling on Harry over what is at best an activity level based hunch seems incorrect here when considering there is a concrete reason against Jem.

Though I'm not entirely sure what you mean bradon, by there is not enough time in the round to figure out my 'primitive analysis' (my own words Im aware of that haha). 8 hours isnt enough to just read this post?


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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 09:41AM Nov 22, 2013

It is not an activity based hunch. It is what has been stated in Harry's posts.

Jem has actually made some rather lengthy posts with some good points. He tends to be short and sweet when he is a furball as to not draw attention to himself.

There are 2 wolves left and no seer. Chang did not really hint to anyone's ID so nothing there.

Thank you Bradon for your sympathy. Also........like Dan said, 8 hours is plenty of time for you to make a thought on a post........??????

Anyhooo.....That is my stance atthe moment.


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The_SpiderAus


Posted: 10:09AM Nov 22, 2013

The wolves eating choice did hint at something though. Either as I stated earlier, the wolves were eating him for the Chris shooting and he by sheer chance was the seer, or his odd (and otherwise kind of pointless) throwaway vote on Jeminy at the end of the round made the wolves think he was seer. Yes, it could be nothing, but as the wolves must be looking for the seer, Jem being a wolf is a good chance. Harry hasnt really said much in his posts, which seems to be the root of the suspicious, tomato tomahto in my book.

As for Jem's points, I don't really agree with them. His first about Cab being able to 'jump and further doom him' is never really manifested in actual play, seemed like a scramble to justify his "human read" while trying to leave a 'subconscious' hint he is human (see Cab could have jumped on me....cause I'm human guys.....if she was a wolf).

I don't know what other points he really makes, he reiterates that others have found Harry off and then says something extremely vague about 'his votes seem like ones a wolf might do'? well how?

to me Harry remains in the thick of it, but Jem is a better vote this round imo

I would like to see a legit analytical post from Harry by the end of the round though...else.....who knows


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 10:13AM Nov 22, 2013

That was my feeble attempt at humor, the time reference. My thought was the fact that until Jem was put in a majority did he post more than a few sentences.

So, my remaining thoughts: I am withholding judgment on HP until the end of the round. He tends to get more involved in the game after the first few rounds.

caberet - I sill think she is a good possibility based on her activity so far. The human Cab is much more agressive.
dfamina - I have no read on him not having played many, if any, games previously with him. He does seem invested in the game, for what that's worth.
Longhorn_fan - I think she's playing pretty much as she always does, and I never can tell, if I think she's a wolf she turns out human
mbrady89 - He's another I have no read on, not having played previously with him. He actually seems pretty neutral to me.
Smithy - I don't know what to think. He's not active but that could be because of RL.
The_Spider - He's playing pretty much as he always does, but he's definitely coming off as human, and yeah, he's fooled me before.


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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 11:37AM Nov 22, 2013

Well I guess my voting choice was made easy Sometimes I have a lot of work or I'm lazy, so it seems like I'm not as engaged. This time it's close to the holidays so there's a lot to do, but I still contribute.

My thoughts are the wolves are some combo of Smithy, LH, and jem. I'll put dfam on the backburner (especially if he helps saves me ). I also pretty much have spid cleared. I haven't analyzed this round yet to see if I can eliminate any pairing.

bradon182001 voted for jeminy
caberet voted for HarryPutter
dfamina voted for jeminy
HarryPutter voted for jeminy
jeminy voted for HarryPutter
Longhorn_fan voted for HarryPutter
Smithy voted for dfamina
The_Spider voted for jeminy

Why am I criticized for statements without explanation when that's literally the reason everyone's voting for me this round (i.e. statements that have no basis). Jem has loads of evidence against him (esp. the chang eating), it just doesn't make sense. He WAS the seer, so at this point there's no reason not to vote jem.


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jeminyten


Posted: 12:25PM Nov 22, 2013

Chang being the seer has given the wolves an easy reason to vote for me. I honestly believe that at least one of the wolves would have to join in the vote so at least read into that when you see my ID. I may be voting for Harry because he's targeting me but it is likely you'll be looking at who did at didn't target me this round in the next round anyway, I've just got my ID early.

Brady has yet to come on and Smithy to return so I might have some hope... I hope


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mbrady89Aus


Posted: 12:27PM Nov 22, 2013

If I'm being perfectly honest, all of what I'm about to say is amassed from other people's findings, not my own. It's the bane of playing w/ people I don't know. I very much understand and can see the furriness of jeminy. Harry, probably because of the lesser focus on him, I don't so much understand. I specifically agree with the fact that chang threw out a "random" vote for jem and then was eaten, and GUESS WHAT! He was seer. Chang being one of the 2 people in this game I've played with before I can tell you, very rarely are his votes actually random. That being said, my vote is going to probably seal jem's fate.
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RhythmicAus


Posted: 12:31PM Nov 22, 2013

Night Posting: 23 hrs and 57 mins left

jeminy was human


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