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The Werewolf Game #3000

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Voting Discussion
This game finished in 7 rounds.

Discussion of Round #4

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  

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RhythmicAus


Posted: 06:16AM Dec 4, 2013

Thanks Rhy

Chang was next to be lured away from proceedings by a face he mistakenly thought was both friendly and familiar and was summarily incapacitated.

The conference's twists and turns continue to unfold and confusion is beginning to take hold.
Who are the remaining figurative wolves in sheep's clothing, trying to Doom the Earth?



CLEARING CLUE
I heard a rumor that the Eagle is on the Hill


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"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:22AM Dec 4, 2013

You beat me to it by a few minutes Rhy!

I am really hoping the reason night is timing out is due to an inactive wolf and not intentional. The only reason to drag out the nights is to try to frame an inactive player, but since we are not allowed to check log ins this reason does not apply.

I think we need to consider who (f anyone) has be completely absent from posting and/or voting durig the day rounds.

I don't have time to reread all the rounds right now but have a short day today and should be hoe ust after noon EST (GMT -5) and will take a closer look then.


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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dfamina


Posted: 07:33AM Dec 4, 2013

I think LH was our only absent player last round, but I haven't gone and checked that everyone who voted also posted. I really can't think of any (good) reason to have these nights go the full duration; we've had only one night end early, after 18 hours.

I'm in no hurry, though, so I'll be holding my vote for now.
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RhythmicAus


Posted: 08:05AM Dec 4, 2013

Yeah, I'm going to hold my vote as well. I hope chang wasn't the seer.

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 08:12AM Dec 4, 2013

Holding vote until the update.

All the eatings have been quite predictable thus far. Leads me to think down a certain track....


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:58AM Dec 4, 2013

dfamina wrote:
I think LH was our only absent player last round,.


The only problem with that is that night absolutely for sure no question about it, timed out.

Chang was eaten so we know for sure one wolf voted (unless Bored and Bradon are both wolves


WOLVES - with 48 hour day rounds we don't need the nights timing out too. Please remember to vote so shorten them.

I am looking at dfamina a bit as the post about LH being the only absent player strikes me as sort of trying to take away from my idea to look at activity levels. And 18 hours is still not a short night.

Were I the voting wolf, I'd call out my "partner" at this point!


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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bradon182001*us


Posted: 09:08AM Dec 4, 2013

It seems to me the wolves (if both are night voting) are Seer hunting which is to be expected, but the long nights are not only annoying, but really not necessary. I'm starting to get some suspicions but will also wait until Jayo reveals Chang's identity.

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dfamina


Posted: 09:21AM Dec 4, 2013

You're right, HABS, I didn't clarify that very well. It was more just thinking aloud than anything else, because I'm really not sure who would be causing the nights to time out, or why.

(Note to Jayo: This isn't about login times, because we're fairly certain that everyone here is active on some level)
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 11:55AM Dec 4, 2013

I'm home nnow. Just going to grab some lunch and toss a roast in the slow cooker then will be back to see how active everyone has been (without looking at log ins)

Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 01:12PM Dec 4, 2013

bradon182001 wrote:
It seems to me the wolves (if both are night voting) .



I am abosolutely 100% sure that the night timed out. When I got on this morning there were 14 minutes left. I kept checking back. IT went the full time.

Humans are eaten in alphabetical order if neither wolf votes. Since Chang was eaten and was 3rd down on the list this means either:

1) One wolf voted for Chang while the other wolf did not vote at all

or

2) Neither wolf voted and Chang was the first human name on the list meaning BU and Bradon are our two wolves.

I'd be more inclined to go with the first option.


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RhythmicAus


Posted: 01:26PM Dec 4, 2013

I could probaby get behind a bradon vote in either case. Still wating to vote though.

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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oni5150*us


Posted: 01:51PM Dec 4, 2013

Here, but a little busy. Will be back.
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RhythmicAus


Posted: 01:55PM Dec 4, 2013

I can't tell for sure from Jayo's update, but I think it means our Seer is still with us. I'll go ahead and assume that he/she is and put a vote in for brandon.

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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Smithy*en


Posted: 01:56PM Dec 4, 2013

How many times does this need to be said - nights are not left to time out to "frame" inactive players, they are left to time out to avoid clearing inactive players. Why should the wolves be expected to hamper their chances by giving us a quick night when some humans can't even bother to sign in a couple of times a day? And, perhaps, this wouldn't be such a prominent problem if people didn't so obsessively follow the timing of the round and tell us to the exact minute that it timed out.

SPV for now.


"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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dfamina


Posted: 02:26PM Dec 4, 2013

I believe our Seer is still with us, since he didn't specifically mention anything. Also, I should've done it earlier regardless, so here's my SPV: Rhy

(Edited after having chosen bradon when I noticed that she already has a vote.)


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bradon182001*us


Posted: 02:27PM Dec 4, 2013

Putting both of Jayo's comments together to form one thought:

Thee Council, emboldened by their success so far decided that what worked in the first round of discussions might work again.
Again they voted out the one that stayed silent on the debate. They assumed that LH was keeping quiet as she was afraid of putting her foot in her mouth, but it was actually because she was given a mild sedative by one of the Galonians and for the first time, the Council has made an error.

The Key Holder awaits the next round of discussions along with the rest of the Council and the two remaining saboteurs

Chang was next to be lured away from proceedings by a face he mistakenly thought was both friendly and familiar and was summarily incapacitated.

The conference's twists and turns continue to unfold and confusion is beginning to take hold.
Who are the remaining figurative wolves in sheep's clothing, trying to Doom the Earth?



Rhythmic wrote:
I could probaby get behind a bradon vote in either case. Still wating to vote though.


Why is that? My vote on LH last round was a SPV, so it's the 2nd vote on LH that has me suspicious, since it was placed quite some time after mine with a short "Voting randomly for now" and was the one and only post by kmrutledge for the entire round.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 02:46PM Dec 4, 2013

Smithy wrote:
How many times does this need to be said - nights are not left to time out to "frame" inactive players, they are left to time out to avoid clearing inactive players.

While this may in fact be true, since the rule of the game prohibit us from discussing (or even looking at) log it times - what does it accomplish?


Why should the wolves be expected to hamper their chances by giving us a quick night when some humans can't even bother to sign in a couple of times a day?

Spoken like a wolf .... but I'll give the same answer here as I give to the kids when they ask me "Why" and I have no good answer - "because I said so ...that's why".

Since all the players in this game are active and participating a short night would not clear anyone.


And, perhaps, this wouldn't be such a prominent problem if people didn't so obsessively follow the timing of the round and tell us to the exact minute that it timed out.


I don't normally pay attention to when a round is supposed to end, but it happened that when I logged on there were mere minutes remaining in the round so I did notice.

Edited to fix formatting and because the game doesn't like it when spell colour correctly.

edit #2 - Forgot to state a SPV for Smithy - his defence of the wolves doesn't sit well.


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Smithy*en


Posted: 03:03PM Dec 4, 2013

Given that people have commented that everyone has signed in, it's clear that people are looking, and regardless of whether or not they can "use" it (i.e. comment in the game) I can guarantee if somebody notices someone is 100% clear they will not be voting for them later in the game just because the rules say they cannot act on it.

I will defend the wolves to the hilt over this and I don't care if your childish response is to vote for me. I don't know what point you were trying to make but to admit you have "no good answer" to my response isn't the most convincing argument.


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BoredUltimatumAus


Posted: 03:44PM Dec 4, 2013

I've been debating saying this because it will sound so wolfish but I'm going to anyways. I leave this site open on a tab and periodically check throughout the day when I can whether or not I have time to actually contribute just to see where the game is. Just like any observant player I notice the "online now" section at the bottom of pages and about every time I see at least one or two faces (er, names) from here. I'm not saying I'm a wolf but if I were I know I wouldn't want to end a night round with my name down there. The other people know they're human and will now have noticed, through no will of their own and without checking login times, information that is damning against the wolf and others that were on. "What has been seen cannot be unseen." That being said, I have noticed many people from here grouped in the chat room. Now, that could mean they aren't wolfs and are trying to covertly discuss human matters (they haven't been invited to the seer box), they are wolfs trying to look human (because they already have a wolf box), or they are unknown and just chatting about benign things (the regulars do seem like good friends). The jury's still out on that.


I'll SPV for slammngirl92.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 03:44PM Dec 4, 2013

BoredUltimatum wrote:
I'm not saying I'm a wolf but if I were I know I wouldn't want to end a night round with my name down there.


A vaild concern BoredUltimatum, but it actually addresses this in the game rules:
Because of the "online now" list at the bottom of the website, the end of the night round will be delayed by several hours to prevent players from figuring out who the Werewolves are based on who is online when the round ends.


SMITHY: I understand what you are saying about the wolves not wanting active players to be cleared by short nights, which makes sense when there are players who are not active, but given that everyone has posted in the game, we can (without looking at the log ins) determine that there are no inactive players. Therefore the long nights are unnecessary.
You are right the wolves should not be required to give the humans an unfair advantage, but since the game itself favours the wolves, and the wolves have statistically won 66% of the games played, I don't think it is too much of a detriment to them. This is my opinion on the subject, I know you disagree but it is how I see things.


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BoredUltimatumAus


Posted: 04:09PM Dec 4, 2013

Oh, I read that before so how did I forget it...? In that case maybe Smithy's thought is right.
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 05:51PM Dec 4, 2013

Ok, lets all calm down about the night timing out. We can't use login times and we can't control when the wolves vote. It would be nice to get the game goong, but again, nothing we can do other than beg.

The whole timing out thing is pointless and distracting us from the actual game. with that being said, Im going to SPV.


Fearless.
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debc1A


Posted: 06:02PM Dec 4, 2013

hey
checking in
will vote apples again, he is acting weird to me
is subject to change due to the clue
and if i am back in time


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JayoAie


Posted: 06:12PM Dec 4, 2013

Clearing clue posted




Posted in the Wolf Talkbox in round one:

Jayo wrote:
Hey Galonians/wolves

I would appreciate if you didn't let night time out, it is against the rules to use log-in times so there should be no reason for overly long nights


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Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:48PM Dec 4, 2013

Going to try to work on the clearing clue

VOTING LIST (35.5 hours left)

edUltimatum voted for slammngirl92
bradon182001 voted for kmrutledge
debc1 voted for GreenApples27
dfamina voted for Rhythmic
HABS2933 voted for Smithy
Rhythmic voted for bradon182001
slammngirl92 voted for HarryPutter
Smithy voted for Skybet

AT this point everyone is just voting randomly and there is no consensus on a viable suspect. We need to work together to find the remaining wolves and win this for the humans.


Q: What is the primary goal? A: To WIN the game.
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oni5150*us


Posted: 06:52PM Dec 4, 2013

Sorry, posted and then deleted. Working on clue.
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 07:06PM Dec 4, 2013

I'll SVP at the moment but I have an idea of who it'd be easy to clear at this point. Eating Chang was a worse move than dfam's noob eating of lh last game

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 07:19PM Dec 4, 2013



SPV


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 07:39PM Dec 4, 2013

Everyone makes mistakes

"The reason I talk to myself is because I'm the only one whose answers I accept." - George Carlin
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 07:40PM Dec 4, 2013

Everyone has those days

Fearless.
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nicatsAus


Posted: 09:07PM Dec 4, 2013

Ok...wow lots to read...let me catch up...

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HarryPutter*ca


Posted: 09:18PM Dec 4, 2013

I'm starting to think kmr is our inactive wolf...she has barely posted a sentence this entire game. Putting the majority on her

BoredUltimatum voted for slammngirl92
bradon182001 voted for kmrutledge
debc1 voted for GreenApples27
dfamina voted for Rhythmic
HABS2933 voted for Smithy
HarryPutter voted for kmrutledge
oni5150 voted for oni5150
Rhythmic voted for bradon182001
Skybet voted for nicats
slammngirl92 voted for HarryPutter
Smithy voted for Skybet


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Skybet*gb


Posted: 09:18PM Dec 4, 2013

I haven't had the time to rake through this game, and now we are in round 4, I will readily admit I'm coming up short with theories.

In my opinion, the eatings have been fairly straight forward. Some may think that eating chang was a poor choice, but the jury is still out for me. I've been in a few games with a seer box, and there was a memorable occasion where a player claimed to be in the seer box and was left by the wolves while they hunted the seer, but it turned out that player was the seer. It was an annoying game because I was one of the wolves. Nothing is black and white in this game.

As I said, I haven't had time to analyse fully, so I'm going on a hunch. Voting HABS this round.


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debc1A


Posted: 10:39PM Dec 4, 2013

checking back in

think i will stick with apples
don't know about the clue


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nicatsAus


Posted: 11:43PM Dec 4, 2013

Voting for kmr right now kinda subject to change per more discussion seems logical at this point.

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Smithy*en


Posted: 01:23AM Dec 5, 2013

Switching to kmr also, given the activity level it's not like we're taking out someone useful anyway if we're wrong.

"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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BoredUltimatumAus


Posted: 03:52AM Dec 5, 2013

I suppose I'll join the lynch mob and go with kmr as well.

EDIT- Also, have no idea about the clue...


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RhythmicAus


Posted: 04:38AM Dec 5, 2013

Ok. I've switched to kmr also. I am still suspicious of bradon. I also have a feeling one of the wolves is either skybet or smithy (not both). In an effort of full disclosure, I generally am not known for my uber hunting skills though.

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 05:32AM Dec 5, 2013

I guess I will join the vote.. nothing better at this point

Fearless.
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dfamina


Posted: 06:21AM Dec 5, 2013

How did I end up as the last vote again? Oh well. I'll take the liberty of cutting this round short.
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JayoAie


Posted: 06:34AM Dec 5, 2013

KR was ejected from the summit. Anxious to make up for a poor decision last round, the Council struck with virtual unanimity...but they struck poorly as an ordinary Council member was the one to figuratively bite the bullet.

The 2 remaining Galonians have set a trap for someone in the current recess, time will tell which member has sprung it


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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