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Who's the Boss Game #2867

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #5

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Posted: 02:31PM Oct 21, 2012

Welcome to Round 5!

Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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Posted: 05:12PM Oct 21, 2012

I was afraid of that, two cleared players fired. Habs - be careful, unless you are the rat, which I don't think you are based on your play. I don't mind being cleared, but I really would have liked to have 4 cleared players this round instead of just two. Edit - make that 2 1/2 cleared. I usually don't take much from a single vote elimination, but babyjuice did talk from the grave and said she was fired as optional; so Python may be cleared... and at this point, I think we need to sort of give BJ the benefit of the doubt that she did indeed lock in her vote.

No safety vote yet... that's what got Nicats fired - voting a safety and getting a majority jump on her safety vote. It happens too often, players aren't really playing the game, but going through the motions and just jumping on the first majority vote they see...

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A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new. -Albert Einstein-
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Posted: 06:59PM Oct 21, 2012

I have to agree with you Randy, we need to be careful that we are not fired next. I still feel that Jayo may be the boss or rat.

Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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Posted: 09:42PM Oct 21, 2012

I might not have a chance to get on tomorrow. Safety for Elios.
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Posted: 09:58PM Oct 21, 2012

This makes it hard when everyone takes the week-end off.

I agree Jayo is probably the rat... I only say that because in the round that two were fired and the third was not, it was Jayo as the third person.

I sort of think masoni is an employee... the round he voted for himself he did it to stay out of being a lemming. He was a lemming in the first two rounds and I suspect saw that it was not successful for him.

Roman is questionable, but I haven't got a read on him to say one way or the other.

My hunch is that Bobbi or Elios is our boss. Beings Roman just voted for Elios, it seems like a good choice to go after, but Roman stated it as a safety vote and I hate to put him in the same spot as Nicats. However, its easy for me to say that, as I will stay out of the majority vote this round. Just please make sure you state who you vote for and confirm it...

I am going to do a safety vote on Habs. Safety only, she is obviously cleared, and if I forget to sign in, in the morning I would hate to be fired as forgetting to vote. Edit - confirmed vote.

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A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new. -Albert Einstein-
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Posted: 10:24PM Oct 21, 2012

I'm also going to again vote Elios, still following my hunch. Randy if you are in fact cleared, and if you do in fact believe it to be me or Elios, then it has to be Elios, 'cause it isn't me. According to Wikipedia Scooby Doo began in 1969, and in 1969 I had been married 4 years. Trust me, I was not a kid and I certainly didn't watch Scooby Doo cartoons for hours. The Murderer has to be someone young enough to have been a kid since they must tell the truth in answering the prompt.

Edit: vote confirmed.

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Posted: 02:00AM Oct 22, 2012

Putting in a safety for whoever is 2 up from the bottom for now. Will be back tomorrow to discuss forming a majority.
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Posted: 02:09AM Oct 22, 2012

Bobbi, I stopped watching cartoons on my own probably sometime while in junior high (late 60's), with maybe the exception of the Flintstones and the Jetsons as they were on later in the afternoon or early evening. I think the Flintstones came on in prime time - 8PM back then... but it was so long ago I could be wrong. I will be the first to admit that I have no idea when I "stopped" watching these two shows, but growing up watching them, they were a part of my memory.

I know I watch a lot of sponge bob square pants with my grandkids. They know every episode by heart, with my youngest 4 year old grandchild actually reciting the words before the characters speak them. I know I could answer a question on sponge bob... but I surely do not "watch" it anymore... it's all about being a parent or a grandparent.

But... you are right... if the show came out in the late 60's... you were no longer a "kid" (unless in heart only- which could be disputed as an infraction of the nature of the rules of the game - and we know Snowy would not allow that, beings she doesn't allow any discussions of votes after the round ends) and therefore, the answer to the scooby doo prompt would clear you as boss. If the answer to the prompt was more like, "I used to watch it a lot, and....) then you would not be cleared in my eyes... but the added word "kid" does signal someone under 18. And beings this show did not come out before you turned 18... you were a lady by then and your kid days were over.

****Phew....**** I said all this to just say I believe you. And as for your comments if I am cleared, I do understand the doubt - but there were two people fired who stated a vote for me, both of them were cleared. I surely hope their firings in this round amounts to something... as I know I am only an employee in this game.

A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new. -Albert Einstein-
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Posted: 05:59AM Oct 22, 2012

As it wa pointed out a few games ago, when the Power Rangers played a part in an answer, and I disputed the fact I couldn't be the boss becuase i was in my 20s (and working toward a degree in Classical Literature), Anyone can have a "guilty pleasure" and secretly watch these cartoons. When I was in High School, they had CCTVs throughout the school that broadcast a ticker of "important" school announcements for the students. At lunchtime, the TV in the main lobby was always switched over to the local station (the only channel you could get without cable because the Flintstones was on from 1200-1230. I suppose we were too old to be watching the show (at least according to the teachers who would walk by laughing).

And in any case, Bobbi, if you got ,married in 1969 you got married the same year as my parents did, and I grew up watching Scooby-Doo. so you could have watched it with your children. Of course the memo does make it sound like the boss was a child when the show was on (not that that helps us much as Scooby-Doo is still on in reruns so the boss is just anyone born after 1969 (which i think covers most of the players).
To me a "kid" is anyone under the age of about 28. My eldest nephew is 26 and I still think of him a kid.
Still not sure who I'm voting for, will have to think a bit more. I don't really want to be a lemming and get fired.
Could someone put up a voting list?

EDIT: Vote locked in for RANDY. I know he is cleared, so I feel he is a safe choice for me to avoid the majority.

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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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Posted: 08:42AM Oct 22, 2012

Wow... maybe I am the Boss. I definitely used to watch Scooby-Doo as a kid. But there are probably very few children born after '69 who didn't. In fact, they're still making Scooby-Doo movies and such, so there most likely will never be many children who didn't grow up with him (definitely in the States, but he certainly has some worldwide appeal).

I also still watch cartoons regularly (not Scooby-Doo so much, though). If it's animated, I've probably watched it at least once. It's partly because I've always wanted to be a voice-over actress and I love & admire those who get to do that for a living. The other part is just that I really like cartoons! LOL

The memo most definitely says "when I was a kid", and not something generic like "when I was younger." I need to take some time to read through the long posts made this round and look at the players still in the game before I make a decision.

My safety vote is still on Jayo.

"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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Posted: 09:16AM Oct 22, 2012

You're right Habs that we watch shows as parents and grandparents that normally only children watch. I think the term "kid" would be the deciding factor. Like Elios even pointed out, if the answer said when I was younger, or even if it said, when I was young... there would be a super good argument that the boss could be any age to have seen it. If the answer had said child or teenager, then the fact that it did not start until 69' becomes an important factor to clear some people. I put kid in that latter description. In 69', I was 14... I was a kid. When I turned 18, I left for the military... I may not have been of legal age to drink, but I was an adult.

I don't think the boss played with the words, I think the boss did not think through the ramifications of the statement. Even a child of 5 today could watch Scooby Doo and in latter years say they watched it as a child... and someone might think the person was born in 69 or so when in fact they born in 2007. But I will concur that I could be wrong about thinking this way, but in my books Bobbi is cleared, or at least way down my list.

A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new. -Albert Einstein-
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Posted: 10:21AM Oct 22, 2012

OH I agree Randy, both you and Bobbi would be cleared based on that answer and your relative ages. I know what you mean about watching shows with kids too, I most likely saw EVERY episode of Thomas the Tank Engine made between 1995-2002 or so. At one point I could have named every engine on the show as well as tell your their number, colour and the shape of the face. Now the "kid" who used to make me watch the show is 18 and thankfully likes the same shows as I do (anything on Discovery, History, or the Military Channel).

If you were in the Military when you were 18, you and I were travelling the world with the military at the same time!


bradon182001 CLEARED (due to age)
HABS2933 CLEARED (due to age)
RGW4 CLEARED (due to age)

Elios likely rat or boss
Jayo likely rat or boss

masoni88 not cleared but not on my list of suspects
PYTHON not cleared but not on my list of suspects
RomanG417 not cleared but not on my list of suspects

IF I am wrong about the clear status of any player please let me know.

EDITED to fix formatting

---This message was edited on 2012-10-22 18:55:36---

Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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Posted: 10:34AM Oct 22, 2012

Finally the memo has cleared someone! (or three someones) Anyways, at the moment I don't think there's a majority, and we don't have much time left. I'm voting Elios, so anyone who wants to hop on the bandwagon, that would be great.
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Posted: 10:37AM Oct 22, 2012

HABS, you beat me to that list of suspects & clears by about 10 minutes. *deletes Notepad work* I agree with all of it (except for the part about me being Boss or Rat).

Python: I'm not so worried about him because, as RGW pointed out, BabyJuice was fired.

Masoni: Quick little posts always make me suspicious because that's what I do when I'm Boss/Wolf. You do just enough to appear active, but not so much that you accidentally attract attention or say something that gives you away. Looking back over the rounds, that's pretty much what Masoni has posted.

Roman: Good activity early on but lately has been kind of quiet.

(Granted, Masoni and Roman could just be really busy or honestly not have much to say.)

My top suspects right now are Jayo and Masoni. I'm Ok leaving my vote on Jayo to try to get a majority.

Edit to add: Whoops! There's Masoni. He's still on my suspect list though. I'm obviously not going to vote for myself. You can clear me if you want to, though.

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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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Posted: 12:12PM Oct 22, 2012

Clearing people based on age, hmmm not the way to go peoples

No I don't have a problem being cleared but it is a wasted vote as I'm not the boss!!

I'll put a safety on Roman G for now, I don't think anything will be sorted out this round

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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Posted: 01:18PM Oct 22, 2012

Jayo wrote:
Clearing people based on age, hmmm not the way to go peoples:

I personally think this is a perfectly valid reason to clear someone in this instance The same as I said it was a few games ago . . . the boss CANNOT LIE so for him to have watched Scooby-Doo as a KID - they have to be born after the show began to air - or at least have been a child in 1969. BOTH Randy and Bobbi were adults by the time the show aired so unless the boss broke the rules, then they are clear. Not sure but I think that after Bobbi and Randy I am the oldest one on here, and I'm already cleared so it has to be one of our younger players.
Really the only person this clue clears is Bobbi, since Randy was cleared already by votes.
I think that Jayo not wanting us to use this clue as an elimination mechanism is interesting to say the least . . . Is Scooby-Doo on in Ireland?

Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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Posted: 01:50PM Oct 22, 2012

Yep, and I watched it as a kid and I am 31, so ridiculous to exclude anybody from that.
I just so happen to not be the boss but I'm happy enough with my vote on someone that would be 'cleared' by age logic.

It is very safe to say that everyone here, at some stage, watched Scooby, Scrappy and co in action as a child.

Habs, if you think about it there is nothing at all wrong with my logic, unless of course you don't have a vote

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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Posted: 01:51PM Oct 22, 2012

I will vote for Masoni this round.

How many accounts do you have on Braingle?
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Posted: 02:06PM Oct 22, 2012

Jayo wrote:
It is very safe to say that everyone here, at some stage, watched Scooby, Scrappy and co in action as a child.
Ugh. *shudder* I hated Scrappy even way back before it was cool to do so. (Remember that spin-off where Shaggy, Daphne, Scooby, & Scrappy were a team? Yeah, like that makes sense.) I actually liked Scooby-Dum though. xD

I'm on exactly the same page as HABS. Some of Jayo's comments make it sound like either he may be the Boss, or perhaps he's the Rat trying to sound suspiciously not suspicious.

I hope the firings at least give us some clarity.

"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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Posted: 02:49PM Oct 22, 2012

Jayo wrote:
It is very safe to say that everyone here, at some stage, watched Scooby, Scrappy and co in action as a child.

Yes Jayo, as I have pointed out - EXCEPT Randy and Bobbi who were both well beyond childhood when the show first aired. Bobbi pointed out that she was already married for 4 years in 1969, the year the show premiered, and Randy was 18. Therefore neither was a "KID" as stated in the memo. Ergo, neither of them can be the boss based on the fact that they are too old (sorry guys) to have watched it

I don't really remember watching it at all a a kid, of course when I was a child cartoons were on for half an hour at lunchtime (the Flintstones) and maybe 2 hr on SATURDAY MORNINGS other than that there were no cartoons. We were expected to read or go outside and play. Even had I wanted to spend "hours" watching a show, I would not have been allowed to, never mind the fact that in a family of 3 kids and only 1 TV the "poor neglected middle child" (aka ME) didn't often get choice of show - either the oldest one does or the baby whines until she gets her way. But as I said, I didn't care for TV back then nor do I now, I'd much rather read a book (it is sort of like TV but without the pictures or sound).

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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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Posted: 08:10PM Oct 22, 2012

Habs, what I said was: " In 69', I was 14... I was a kid. When I turned 18, I left for the military... I may not have been of legal age to drink, but I was an adult."

I was a kid when Scobby Doo came out. I may have seen it, but frankly I did not watch many cartoons after I started working. I am not cleared by the answer... only cleared by the majority vote against me. My comment about turning 18 was that I felt I became an adult at 18, beings I did enter the service within a month of turning 18... no longer a kid.

I do recall watching a lot of Scobby Doo when my daughter was 2-6 or so... she loved them, so its not like I never saw the show, but it was not something that I turned on the TV to view. I guess I should add that I did watch a lot of the Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Hour on Saturday mornings... even as an adult... classic cartoons - thought about that while writing this. It also took me a long time before I started to watch the Simpsons... then wondered why, it was funny.

I "sort of" know how old Bobbi is, and I truly believe she was no longer a "kid" in 69.

A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new. -Albert Einstein-
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Posted: 08:53PM Oct 22, 2012

Older than dirt, Randy. Let me add this, I was 21 when I got married in 1965. You all can do the math. lol So, in 1969 when Scooby premiered, I was not a kid. And, for the record, I did not then nor do I now, even like Scooby Doo. My kids cut their first teeth on Sesame Street, which by the way, also premiered in 1969 when my oldest son was 3 years old, and he didn't control the TV, I did.
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