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Who's the Boss Game #2894

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 5 rounds.

Discussion of Round #3

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RhythmicAus


Posted: 05:39PM Dec 3, 2012

ROUND 3!

Psych question with a twist:
Which of the following would you be least sympathetic to: Maya Gallo from the television show "Just Shoot Me" (1997 - 2003), Andrea "Andy" Sachs from the movie "The Devil Wears Prada" (2006), Corky Sherwood from the television show "Murphy Brown" (1988 - 1998 ), or Liz Lemon from the television show "30 Rock" (2006 - Present)?

Here's a hint about next round's question:
It will have to do with The I.T. Crowd, The Office (U.S. and U.K.) and NewsRadio


---This message was edited on 2012-12-03 17:45:08---

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 06:08PM Dec 3, 2012

Short memo/answer. I haven't seen any of them, so, as usual, I'll just ignore the discussion question. But the short memo was different than it has been. Let's do this, guys!

Voting Blackest_red.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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JJPutztus


Posted: 07:43PM Dec 3, 2012

Well, I'm still here *insert sarcastic smile here* Yeah, that's good enough.
Voting BlackestRed as well.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 10:31PM Dec 3, 2012

i will vote kittycat for now. lets see what to others have to say.

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 10:59PM Dec 3, 2012

buu441 just strikes me as not employee this game. I don't know why.

I will vote for buu441 for now.
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Izzie*


Posted: 11:14PM Dec 3, 2012

i'll keep my vote for buu again this round

˙ǝızzı(p) ¿y ahora? the new refrigerator came. If you need me, i will be playing in the box.
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GreenApples27*nz


Posted: 01:00AM Dec 4, 2012

Actually, I could see buu441 as Blackest_Red's rat?

I am changing my vote to Blackest_Red.
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JQPublic


Posted: 03:52AM Dec 4, 2012

I've actually suspected blackest all along, but I suspect him in EVERY SINGLE GAME I play with him, so I tend to suppress that feeling. I'm voting for him to get a majority.

We've got a big clue in the memo. The writer used a comma splice. Perhaps he thought the adverb 'surprisingly' would be a good enough conjunction - which it isn't, of course. Is there anyone here who frequently uses adverbs as conjunctions?

Edit: Haven't noticed there were so many new posts last round.

@Yuffie: That is actually the impersonal or generic you. You may be confusing that with the royal we, as in 'we are not amused'.

I agree that there's nothing wrong with deception in this kind of games. However, there's a fundamental difference between lying about game mechanics (say, 'I'm not a wolf') and about your principles ('I'd NEVER copy. *copies*').

Blackest certainly doesn't sound ESL to me. I'm ESL so I know.

Also jumping on the GreenApples band wagon.


Usually, ESL people do not write this kind of fragments (skipping the subject 'I')


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'An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.' - Charles Dickens
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Oldcustardtau


Posted: 04:02AM Dec 4, 2012

I'll join majority, voting blackest_red.

(And sorry for not exactly being helpful, I'm not that great at strategy for these games )
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buu441Ain


Posted: 04:13AM Dec 4, 2012

okay. since a majoirty is developing, i will change my vote to blackest red as well.

@GA: any spedific reasons why i dont seem like an employee


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 07:32AM Dec 4, 2012

We've got 6 votes so far for Blackest_red. I don't know if that's enough to win...let me check...

We've got 11 left, so yes, that should be enough to win. Too lazy to do all the math and adding in rat vote right now, so I'll just say we should get a couple more just in case.


"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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EliosAus


Posted: 08:14AM Dec 4, 2012

JQPublic wrote:
Blackest certainly doesn't sound ESL to me. I'm ESL so I know.
Also jumping on the GreenApples band wagon.
Usually, ESL people do not write this kind of fragments (skipping the subject 'I')
This is highly dependent on so many factors, though. First, we don't know for sure that Blackest's native tongue isn't English, or perhaps he's perfectly bilingual (we have a lot of those even in America). If he is ESL, we don't know for how long. You get more fluid with time - you yourself are a perfect example. And then finally, maybe he was taught to leave off pronouns etc to sound more fluent. In Japanese class, pretty much the second thing we learned was not to use watashi (I) unless absolutely necessary. (Japanese doesn't like pronouns. )

But anyway that's all moot because what Yuffie was pointing at was a comparison of writing styles: "The Boss and Blackest_Red's writing styles are similar", not "Blackest sounds ESL."

Wow I was rambling... sorry! I'm joining the majority vote on Blackest_Red because I think there's some pretty convincing evidence (not to mention several people's hunches).

Edit to add: Oh! I forgot to talk about the Psych question. I probably feel least sympathetic for Maya Gallo. She's kind of conceited, and she adds just as much to the workplace fiascoes as Dennis, Elliot, her father, or any of the others. (Man did I love Nina! xD What a great show that was.)

Andy was just naive about how seriously some people can take their work - even if it's something she wouldn't agree is worth the trouble.

I'm probably one of the few here old enough to remember "Murphy Brown" (unless it was watched in syndication). I was a little young for it, but I did watch it with my Mom on occasion. I always felt sorry for Corky, and frustrated for her. I remember her as an earnest, somewhat wholesome person who was just a tad slow on the uptake.

I've never watched "30 Rock" so Liz Lemon is on her own.


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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:33AM Dec 4, 2012

JQPublic wrote:


@Yuffie: That is actually the impersonal or generic you. You may be confusing that with the royal we, as in 'we are not amused'.


I knew I was using it wrong, but I couldn't think of the correct terminology & didn't think it mattered all that much. I remembered the royal We & just went with that

Elios wrote:
But anyway that's all moot because what Yuffie was pointing at was a comparison of writing styles: "The Boss and Blackest_Red's writing styles are similar", not "Blackest sounds ESL."


That's exactly right. I wasn't even going to bring up ESL but, to me, it was the best way to get my idea across. The boss & Blackest's writing styles just seem a little odd, compared to other players.

JQPublic wrote:
We've got a big clue in the memo. The writer used a comma splice.


I may be wrong in thinking this, but comma splices are one of the most common mistakes in grammar. I would know, I do it all the time. It could also have been an attempt to change the writing style or a simply typo - the period is right next to the comma.

I'm voting for Blackest_Red b/c it was kinda my idea so

Discussion Question: I don't watch 30 Rock and I was very young when I watched Murphy Brown, so I don't remember Corky too much. Between Maya and Andy, I'd also definitely have to go with Maya, for much the same reason as Elios. She's conceited, very opinionated, self-righteous and she'd get in other people's business without a second thought. I actually felt sorry for Finch b/c as the show progressed, the character was developed a bit more. I remember there was a scene where he admitted that no one took him seriously, even when he was being genuine, so he's just stuck as this womanizing jokester. Then again, I have this thing where I need to find depth in every character, so I tend to defend the "bad guys"
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kitty-cattus


Posted: 03:44PM Dec 4, 2012

La de da...it's been 3 hours and no posts. I am bored.

"I'm through accepting limits cause someone says they're so. Some things I cannot change, but til I try I'll never know." -Wicked
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 03:52PM Dec 4, 2012

Im about 70% on blackest, which is pretty good for me. Not only are the writing styles the same, but everything just adds up. I think JQ, buu, or JJ is rat. Nothing more to say, hope we guessed right!

Happy ever after in the marketplace, Desmond lets the children lend a hand. Molly stays at home and does her pretty face, and in the evening she's the singer with the band!
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 03:59PM Dec 4, 2012

Voting List


buu441 - Blackest
Elios - blackest
GreenApples27 - blackest
JJPutz - blackest
JQPublic - blackest
kitty-cat - blackest
koin_era345 - blackest
Oldcustard - blackest
Yuffie - blackest


Izzie - buu

Blackest_Red


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JJPutztus


Posted: 08:53PM Dec 4, 2012

Nearly 6 hours and no posts! Progressive work guys!
I'm sorry--call me naïve but what is ESL?
Btw do the dots go above ä or ï?


On a scale of 1-10, how old are you?
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JJPutztus


Posted: 08:55PM Dec 4, 2012

BTW, I'm a fan of 30 Rock (being a New Yorker) Liz Lemon gets no sypathy forme.

On a scale of 1-10, how old are you?
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JJPutztus


Posted: 09:55PM Dec 4, 2012

And another hour has passed-6 hours with only me posting

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JJPutztus


Posted: 09:56PM Dec 4, 2012

↑↑↑ I meant 7.

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EliosAus


Posted: 10:45PM Dec 4, 2012

LOL JJ! Sorry you were left all alone. I tend to avoid posting after the round ends because I'm terrible at breaking the "don't talk @ votes" rule.

(ESL = English as a Second Language)

I guess we didn't get the Boss, huh? Or the game would have ended right?


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 11:36PM Dec 4, 2012

I think so. Not exactly sure. JJ is seeming less and less like the boss. Then theres buu and izzie. :/

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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:46PM Dec 4, 2012

JJPutz wrote:
I'm sorry--call me naïve...Btw do the dots go above ä or ï?


The "I"


Sorry, everyone! I guess Blackest wasn't the boss =/ According to a previous post (& his not logging on since yesterday) Blackest should be a mandatory fire - if he's not, he's the rat (unless he voted 2 days ago when the round first started & just didn't tell anyone...)

Blackest was my suspect so I'm going to take a step back & see what everyone else is thinking for next round ^_^
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JQPublic


Posted: 03:29AM Dec 5, 2012

Elios wrote:
JQPublic wrote:
Blackest certainly doesn't sound ESL to me. I'm ESL so I know.
Also jumping on the GreenApples band wagon.
Usually, ESL people do not write this kind of fragments (skipping the subject 'I')
This is highly dependent on so many factors, though. First, we don't know for sure that Blackest's native tongue isn't English, or perhaps he's perfectly bilingual (we have a lot of those even in America). If he is ESL, we don't know for how long. You get more fluid with time - you yourself are a perfect example. And then finally, maybe he was taught to leave off pronouns etc to sound more fluent. In Japanese class, pretty much the second thing we learned was not to use watashi (I) unless absolutely necessary. (Japanese doesn't like pronouns. )


FYI, that would never happen for ESL because we're constantly told to write in complete sentences. Fragments are sinful! I don't know about Japanese, but in Chinese, it's often possible to write a complete sentence without a subject.

But anyway that's all moot because what Yuffie was pointing at was a comparison of writing styles: "The Boss and Blackest_Red's writing styles are similar", not "Blackest sounds ESL."

Yeah, you're right, I guess , but it now seems that Blackest isn't the boss at all, so the idiolects must be somehow different. (He doesn't have to be the rat as the memo has not been issued yet.)

--

Now that Blackest is shown not to be the boss, it's high time we considered other possibilities. What Izzie said about buu was not really valid, as Yuffie has explained, so I'm suspecting Izzie at the moment. What do you think?


'An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.' - Charles Dickens
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