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Who's the Boss Game #2903

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This game is moderated by Rhythmic. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 5 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  

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RhythmicAus


Posted: 09:43AM Dec 10, 2012

ROUND 2!

Sorry the Boss memo may look odd as far as formatting goes. I forgot to save a psych question so I PM'ed the Boss and he/she posted it in his/her memo.

Psych question with a twist:
When is the last time you lost your temper?


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"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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nicatsAus


Posted: 10:23AM Dec 10, 2012

well guess i should vote. any ways dont lose my temper so often...been so long dont even remember.

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Gizzer


Posted: 10:35AM Dec 10, 2012

Voting List

Elios voting for Skybet (changed from MrsBlondie)
Gizzer voting for Skybet
Izzie voting for Skybet
MrsBlondie voting for Skybet
nicats voting for Skybet
PYTHON voting for MrsBlondie
Skybet voting for Gizzer
Yuffie voting for Skybet

Voting in plurality/majority
Voting in secondary majority
Voting in minority
Posted, but no vote stated
No post, no vote


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Gizzer


Posted: 10:47AM Dec 10, 2012

I've placed a safety for Skybet for now, pending discussion, because I get nothing new from the memo/psych.
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:51AM Dec 10, 2012

Boss said:
Thought that one would catch you out.


I've never heard that terminology before, so I googled "Catch you Out" and that means to catch someone in a lie/deception/trick.

I suppose that's to mean that the "Beans On Toast" was to throw us off? But the Boss isn't supposed to lie... Perhaps this person DID learn how to make BonT but they are not English?

Interestingly enough, the only sites (beside the dictionary) that use this phrasing are from the UK.

I am once again voting on Skybet He was not cleared the previous round & as far as I know, he's the only one living in England.

That's all I got, but that's all anyone really has to go on, so I think it's a good start


The Last Time I lost my temper was this morning, driving in Atlanta traffic
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RhythmicAus


Posted: 12:16PM Dec 10, 2012

Yuffie wrote:
But the Boss isn't supposed to lie...


To clarify - I interpret the rules to say that the boss cannot lie in response to the psych question. The boss (and anyone else) can lie as much as they desire anywhere else.


"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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EliosAus


Posted: 01:13PM Dec 10, 2012

Being that this is just a 10 player game, I gather that the Boss only had 1 optional firing (+ the mandatory). Is that right?

Buu said he was going to vote for Skybet, too, and he was fired. Just on face value, that would seem to clear Skybet. There's always the chance that buu didn't change his vote (or it didn't save, as happens more frequently than it should).

I have a safety on MrsBlondie right now but I'm up for another round on Skybet. This Psych doesn't offer anything; the Boss was smart to hide behind a game reference.

The last time I lost my temper was probably work-related and maybe a week or so ago. But I didn't actually yell at anyone (yell about, sure, but not at). I don't really remember the last time I actually had a fight/argument with someone in which we exchanged heated words, or a time when I started throwing things and stamping my feet.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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YuffieAus


Posted: 02:01PM Dec 10, 2012

Rhythmic wrote:


I interpret the rules to say that the boss cannot lie in response to the psych question. The boss (and anyone else) can lie as much as they desire anywhere else.


Valid point, that makes a lot of sense. The psych answer was "Beans On Toast" was the first thing the boss learned to cook, so that means that is the honest answer. So that implies that the boss saying s/he tricked us isn't true (Since I don't see how else the answer could've tricked us...).

I'm still confident that the Boss is from Europe; based on that, those listed below are potentially cleared:

Elios
Gizzer - Do Canadians eat Beans On Toast?
MrsBlondie
Nicats
Yuffie

Unlisted Locations:
Izzie - It's my opinion that she's American, am I wrong?
Python

So... I guess by a process of elimination, my two biggest suspects are Python and Skybet. If the Boss IS American (or Gizzer LOL) I would LOVE to hear how you came about learning to cook Beans On Toast before anything else


Elios wrote:


Buu said he was going to vote for Skybet, too, and he was fired. Just on face value, that would seem to clear Skybet. There's always the chance that buu didn't change his vote (or it didn't save, as happens more frequently than it should).


Ugh, I know that feeling! There's really no way of knowing if Buu voted for Skybet/if it saved without asking him after the game ends - I'd still like to gain majority on Skybet, but I'm willing to try someone else first, if we have any other leads.

Keeping my vote on Skybet for now
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EliosAus


Posted: 03:50PM Dec 10, 2012

Yuffie wrote:
Valid point, that makes a lot of sense. The psych answer was "Beans On Toast" was the first thing the boss learned to cook, so that means that is the honest answer. So that implies that the boss saying s/he tricked us isn't true (Since I don't see how else the answer could've tricked us...).
If both last round's Psych answer and this round's memo taunt are true, then it means the Boss isn't British (or from a place where Beans on Toast is common) and we were tricked into thinking it. Maybe the Boss has a relative or family friend who lived in/visited/was from England and started the meal tradition in his/her family. A lot of American "mutts" have more than one cultural background to draw from. If that's the case, though, I wonder why the Boss would even mention it in this Memo. Why take away an advantage just to brag about tricking us?

Edit to add: Something just occurred to me: why would the Boss fire buu and not Yuffie? Yuffie cleared herself last round with video evidence of her first time cooking Beans on Toast, but buu was still a viable suspect. And maybe this memo is actually the misleading piece of information. I'm probably way overthinking all of this. Officially changing my vote to Skybet (unless someone else has another idea?)


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"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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YuffieAus


Posted: 04:33PM Dec 10, 2012

Not going to quote Elios, but you do have great points!

I was originally thinking that it could be just a family tradition & the Boss is American (or anything else) but I was hoping to narrow down the possibilities Plus, I know I'm not the best with popular phrases, but I've never heard of "Catch you Out" before. Just like "Take the Mickey", I think it's a UK phrase. Again, I don't have any solid evidence this phrase ISN'T used in America, but based on the definition:

catch out
vb
(tr, adverb) Informal chiefly Brit
to trap (a person), esp in an error or doing something reprehensible


It's British Slang (the term "Mad" as in "crazy" also has "chiefly Brit" listed in its definition, as a comparison). Again, The Boss' parents could be English while s/he was born in America, but I think it's best to go with the obvious first & work our way from that.


Elios' point about Buu441 being fired instead of me only confirms my suspicion. Either he accidentally kept his previous vote/his vote never saved or the Boss just loves me

No one's really coming on, but I would really love to get a majority on Skybet so we can either win or move on to other suspects!
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nicatsAus


Posted: 05:45PM Dec 10, 2012

well skybet seems to be the best bet. if everyone is active and double checks their votes we could be positive on the clear.

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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:08PM Dec 10, 2012

Nicats, does that mean you are voting for Skybet?

Gizzer wrote:
Voting List

Elios voting for Skybet (changed from MrsBlondie)
Gizzer voting for Skybet
Izzie
MrsBlondie
nicats
PYTHON
Skybet
Yuffie voting for Skybet

Voting in plurality/majority
Voting in secondary majority
Voting in minority
Posted, but no vote stated
No post, no vote


3 votes for Skybet out of 8 Players so if Nicats is voting with us, we just need 1 more confirmed vote on Skybet.

I know being a lemming is scary, but it's the only way to win the game!
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 02:50AM Dec 11, 2012

Hey, sorry I'm late I was putting my Christmas tree up last night.

The Boss is certainly playing a shrewd game. I don't know if I'm being framed intentionally or you're all just thinking along the wrong lines. And again, I had no idea the term "catch you out" was exclusive to the UK.

I'm going to vote Gizzer. Not entirely sure why. While you're all chasing me as a lead, I don't really know where to turn.

The last time I lost my temper was a few weeks ago when I had an argument with my flatmate over who does more housework.... We soon realised it was the most pointless argument.


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MrsBlondieAus


Posted: 03:04AM Dec 11, 2012

Locking my vote in for SKYBET

Edit: vote confirmed!

Edit: thought I would check on the posts before I started my classes - everything seems quite here. Will try to check back after class


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nicatsAus


Posted: 07:39AM Dec 11, 2012

yes thats where my vote is going

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PYTHON*


Posted: 08:03AM Dec 11, 2012

This all seems too obvious. SPV again for Blondie. Oh, and I don't really remember when I last lost my temper.

How many accounts do you have on Braingle?
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EliosAus


Posted: 08:09AM Dec 11, 2012

This game seems rather quiet. I was hoping to have some discussion about who the Boss could be if it's not Skybet. ... I have no other suspects, really, so I'm no help.

I do not suspect Yuffie or Gizzer right now, though either could be the Rat.

Again, the Employees don't seem to be working together. If you're not joining the majority, at least share who your suspects are and why. Otherwise you're not really playing the game, you're more just along for the ride.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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PYTHON*


Posted: 08:19AM Dec 11, 2012

In my case Elios, I think both the boss and the rat are very active and are trying to get everyone else to think wrongly about things. I just haven't figured who they might be. Most of you guys have played a lot of WTB games and would know what you're doing.

How many accounts do you have on Braingle?
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Gizzer


Posted: 08:27AM Dec 11, 2012

I would like to ask people to be definite about their votes. When one is vague, players end up questioning if a player is cleared. Bold the name so I can see it for the list. State outright that you have voted, or locked in the vote. MrsBlondie's example is great because she put the name in allcaps, then edited to confirm the vote was locked in. Thanks!

As for my other suspects: PYTHON, as the only other male, is at the top of my list. His country is not given. For some reason I keep thinking of Monty Python.

Edit, after seeing PYTHON's post above. The phrase "think wrongly" also sounds very British to me.


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Izzie*


Posted: 08:56AM Dec 11, 2012

i'll vote for skybet

˙ǝızzı(p) ¿y ahora? the new refrigerator came. If you need me, i will be playing in the box.
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EliosAus


Posted: 09:34AM Dec 11, 2012

Gizzer wrote:
I would like to ask people to be definite about their votes. ... State outright that you have voted, or locked in the vote.
I've been checking and double-checking, and my vote is, indeed, locked & saved for Skybet.

I think the same thing about PYTHON (of the Monty variety). He might be a good way to go next round.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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RhythmicAus


Posted: 09:46AM Dec 11, 2012

I'm putting a placeholder in for when the round ended.

"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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Gizzer


Posted: 09:48AM Dec 11, 2012

We had a Rat-proof majority, so Skybet is cleared.
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PYTHON*


Posted: 09:51AM Dec 11, 2012

I can confirm that my vote 'safety' vote, (not SPV!), is for MRSBLONDIE. And it is confirmed. Guys you can think whatever you like about Monty Python, but it really is not where I get my name from. I will happily confirm that outside of the game too. But at least now I have a couple of possible boss and rat suspects.

How many accounts do you have on Braingle?
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RhythmicAus


Posted: 10:03AM Dec 11, 2012

Just a reminder...

From the rules
Players may only discuss who they will vote for during the current round. Once the voting deadline passes, players may not say who they voted for or whether they voted for who they said they would vote for. Any violations of this rule will put those players on the firing list for rule infractions.


I don't think I mind restating what's already been said in the round (like a summary of voting for example) but please don't reveal any new information. I'm still new at modding this game, so I'm still adjusting somewhat.


"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
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YuffieAus


Posted: 11:37AM Dec 11, 2012

PYTHON wrote:
But at least now I have a couple of possible boss and rat suspects.


Now that Round 2 has ended, I can see holding off until Round 3, but please share your suspects with us.

PYTHON wrote:
In my case Elios, I think both the boss and the rat are very active and are trying to get everyone else to think wrongly about things. I just haven't figured who they might be


The only really active players are Gizzer, Elios and myself. The first time I cooked Beans On Toast was almost 3 years ago (2010) I had already been living alone for a full year: I guarantee that's not the first thing I learned how to cook. Elios is my OLDER sister & so I am confident she is cleared as well, for the same reason. (it's not taped, but she tried it the same day I did).

It's possible one of us is the rat, but we won't really know until we start naming suspects. (I can tell you I'm not the rat, but it's unnecessary since everyone says that).

I'd already been suspecting PYTHON mostly for his tactics in the game. It is possible Gizzer is the Boss & Elios (or anyone else) is the Rat, but usually the Boss hovers under the radar and Gizzer has been uber-active since the beginning of this game. Could be an awesome strategy (I've done that in a werewolf game as a wolf) but I'm not really seeing it.

Just thought I'd post my 2 cents, in case I'm the lemming that gets fired LOL


Edit for pink, yay!


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