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Who's the Boss Game #2934

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This game is moderated by jarmihi. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #3

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  

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jarmihius


Posted: 01:01AM Mar 11, 2013

The player reports have been updated. Click the link below to view them.

One of the players asked me to pardon braingle01. What do you think? That person's fate rests in your hands. Removing braingle01 because of the rule infraction will not earn the Boss any Firing Points.


NEW! Click here to peruse the player reports. I'll update these at the end of every round.

RULES
Here are the rules for this game:
Full Rules
Valid posts = 1; invalid posts = 0; spam = penalty/ModKill
Boss Bazaar & FP Algorithm
Good luck, and have fun!

BAZAAR
O hai! Take a look at my wares!..........Link to the Boss Bazaar..........Red means SOLD OUT.
Index | Name | Price | Remaining Stock | Effect

1 | Golden Quill | 4 | 1 per round | Allows you to write the next psych question.
2 | Employment Insurance | 4 | infinite | Allows you to give your points/items to another player if you are fired.
3 | Divination Card | 6 | infinite | Reveals a hint about the boss. Collect these and spend multiple at once for easier clues. Cannot be combined with others' cards.
4 | Miracle | 6 | infinite | Does...something. Collect a bunch and find out! (Collect them and choose when you want to spend them, and then something will happen.)
5 | Rat Trap | 13 | 1 per 24 hrs | Send the rat a challenge (you create it) to solve in 24 hrs. If the rat fails, xe is fired.
6 | Overtime Pay | 13 | 1 per round | All posts are worth double points, or negates a Lower Wages.
7 | Lens of Truth | 33 | 1 | Reveal identity of target. Works once per round.
Purchasing Form: (either place in a post or PM Jarmihi for a private purchase/use)
Your name:
Item:
Quantity:
Target, if applicable:
Use Immediately? :
If a private purchase, add 10% of the cost rounded to the nearest whole unit.

CHALLENGE LISTING
Riddle\Phenomenon
Name the object described by the following three words. There may be more than one correct answer, but not all possible answers may be considered correct. If you submit an answer that is incorrect (even if it meets the definition), please consider that an opportunity to name another thing that fits the criteria. Submit your answers to me via PM with the heading: "WTB #2934 Riddle."

The first player to correctly answer the Riddle will receive the Clawshot item which allows one to steal any item from any player's inventory once per round. The second player will earn 5 points, the third player will earn 2 points, and all subsequent players will earn 1 point.

individual, colorful, necessary

This Challenge lasts until the end of Round 3.

Keyword Challenge #1
If any player posts a valid post with the secret Keyword in it, he or she will win a free item! The word is a potentially everyday word. (So, it's not 'hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia'.) Word lists do not count. The word must be found in a sentence inside a valid post. This has a good history of promoting activity, so let's see some interesting stories! (Update: remember that the post does not have to be about the game. Also, any tense of the word will work as well [*-s, *-ing, *-ed, *-like, etc. will all do.) This Challenge lasts until the end of the game.

POINTS AND INVENTORIES..........Current as of 02:26 EST Tuesday.
bababawhomp = 2
buu441 = 14
caberet = 5
dcf525 = 8
hermygranger123 = 10
Jayo = 2 (FIRED)
kmrutledge = 8
koin_era345 = 8
poofi = 9
princess2007 = 7
shrutibax = 17
Thekid4 = 11

(See the full reports here.)

THE BOSS = 25 FP (4wheels = 5, fireball14 = 5, Jayo = 3, heymannow = 3, nayru = 2, priceas14 = 3, Raksha = 2, xylo = 3)


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jarmihius


Posted: 01:05AM Mar 11, 2013

kmrutledge used an (item)!

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caberetAus


Posted: 01:14AM Mar 11, 2013

The firings were all mandis since all 3 haven't logged onto Braingle for 2 or 3 days. So nothing was learned there. Not sure if there was a majority (over 50%) last round.

For now, I'm placing a safety vote for shrutibax.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 02:11AM Mar 11, 2013

so the item kmr bought must have been the golden quill? coz its sold out for this round.
i have never heard of the toothpaste brand Crest. we don't have it out here. maybe it will provide some regional clue, but can't say much about it.

i voted poofi on my way in as a safety vote. even i am not sure about the majority on hermy. i guess she ain't as clear as i'd like her to be.


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princess2007A


Posted: 05:03AM Mar 11, 2013

Right now I'm thinking TheKid as boss. Poofi as rat, maybe? I don't know. My suspects are TheKid, hermy, cabaret, and shruti for boss. In that order. Yes, that's a lot of suspects.

The hermygranger majority was so close-just one vote off. We had 8 stated votes and we needed 9. I can't believe we missed the free clear last round. You don't necessarily have to be suspicious to vote someone. This is WTB- you do it for the team!

@kmr- SORRY about the gender thing. I do this way more often than I should.
Kmrutledge wrote:
I only did a personal purchase, because I wanted to be notified if I needed to do anything about it. Oh and by the way, I am a SHE.

That's an explanation. kmr isn't on my suspect list right now. Just wanted to ask though. Kmr, did you write this round's psych question or will you be writing the next one?

Also, we have a clue left! I'll give it a proper try now!

Edit: Grammar and workin on clue.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 06:59AM Mar 11, 2013

oh. yeah. we got a clue last round. but i haven't been able to work too much on it. ain't getting that much online time at a stretch to study it a bit :/ hopefully someone cracks it soon.

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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 08:35AM Mar 11, 2013

I will be writing the next round's psych question.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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dcf525*


Posted: 09:24AM Mar 11, 2013

My original list of Boss suspects is mostly unchanged, but I will vote buu this round. The memo and psych answer are not the Boss's natural speaking style, and it seems buu is purposely trying to distance himself from that style in his posts. I will take another look at the clue and see if I can help.

Sorry, nothing to see here folks, keep moving.
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shrutibax


Posted: 10:44AM Mar 11, 2013

For now my safety vote is on Princess for the clear

Submitted a horribly misled guess for the challenge!
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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:38AM Mar 11, 2013

@dcf: please. i won't lie about the toothpaste i use. specially with the name of a brand which i have never heard of before. i use colgate, coz that's the most popular one out here in our country.

edit: i just googled the entire hint. its a line spoken by the character jeffrey sinclair in babylon 5. can't relate it to the game at the moment.


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princess2007A


Posted: 12:56PM Mar 11, 2013

I have absolutely no idea about the riddle... The ones I can think of are honestly making me laugh to myself.
Gettting nowhere with the clue.

Voting TheKid.

If we go by the idea that the boss and rat are trying to get as many points as possible, atleast one of bababawhomp, shrutibax, and thekid is probably a non-employee.


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dcf525*


Posted: 12:59PM Mar 11, 2013

No luck with the clue.
Mod, did the requestor to keep Braingle01 in the game give a reason? All, is it possible Braingle is the Boss and the rat submitted the request to keep the game going? I cannot hink of any other reason to keep him around.


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princess2007A


Posted: 01:16PM Mar 11, 2013

^^ Well firstly, Braingle01 is a she. Secondly, some people know her in real life and, like I said, they claim that she doesn't post out of lack of self-confidence or something.

I really don't have an opinion about keeping her in the game or not. I think that's the mod's call. I do think you should post before voting but she's obviously a cleared employee. An extra employee won't hurt.

I also have most of your wiki information memorized by now. I thought 3 divination cards would make for an easy clue. Apparently, not as easy as I thought.

Edit: Whoops. Didn't mean to click the edit button.


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poofitus


Posted: 02:31PM Mar 11, 2013

OKay. still no leads with the clue or the different words in the memo, but im working on it. still voting buu.

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 02:42PM Mar 11, 2013

Aww man, this round started at the worst time for me.

I could go buu, but I dont think we'll get a majority so im voting my prime suspect princess. I agree with princess's list, with her substituted in for shru.

Voting princess.


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shrutibax


Posted: 03:29PM Mar 11, 2013

My list so far is basically princess and thekid, and I think at least one of them is a non employee - are you guys willing to try to go for a clear for one of them?
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bababawhompAus


Posted: 04:12PM Mar 11, 2013

I'm going to vote for princess2007, hopefully, we can get a majority this time. Also, like she said, I don't see anything wrong with keeping braingle01.
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shrutibax


Posted: 04:29PM Mar 11, 2013

I agree about keeping braingle, there's really no harm so I have no problem
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poofitus


Posted: 05:08PM Mar 11, 2013

Changing my vote to kmrutledge, because her avatar is chocolate, and eating chocolate could make you teeth yellow, thus you need crest white strips to whiten them. *sigh. I'm pretty sure what i just said will help us at all. But anyway, i think that if braingle01 still doesn't make a post soon, we should form a majority on her.

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shrutibax


Posted: 05:22PM Mar 11, 2013

I dont have a problem with forming a majority on braingle, but why, if there's really no harm?
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:45PM Mar 11, 2013

I vote to modfire braingle01.

I honestly dont think the memo sounds like braingle1, but since there's realt nothing to go on, I am up for the majority.


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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 08:14PM Mar 11, 2013

I'm going to go with princess2007 too and hopefully we'll get a majority on her. I vote to modfire braingle01. She's currently just dead weight.

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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 08:54PM Mar 11, 2013

Voting Table

Majorities
shrutibax-princess2007
bababawhomp-princess2007
koin-era345-princess2007
kmrutledge-princess2007
hermygranger123-princess207



Minorities
princess2007-Thekid4
caberet-shrutibax
poofi-kmrutledge
dcf525-buu441


Not yet voted/stated
braingle01
buu441
Thekid4



Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345
hermygranger123


If buu441 and Thekid4 will post their votes, all but one person will have voted.


The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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bababawhompAus


Posted: 09:01PM Mar 11, 2013

So, I would call someone who isn't voting "dead weight" but if you look at the current werewolf game, "active only" braingle01 has voted in every single round. It's harder to tell with who's the boss... but I don't think we should modfire her.
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shrutibax


Posted: 09:05PM Mar 11, 2013

That's a great point, bababawhomp - if braingle01 is active (maybe not here) and she isn't hurting the game, there really isn't a need at the moment to modfire her, though I would be open to it if it were necessary.
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 10:03PM Mar 11, 2013

Just voting isn't real participation. Do we really want her making important decisions later in the game?

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shrutibax


Posted: 10:11PM Mar 11, 2013

Well just because she isn't posting do we really know if she's following along or not?
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bababawhompAus


Posted: 10:17PM Mar 11, 2013

Koin era345,
Why not? It's not like she votes completely randomly. Just because it's a name without a voice doesn't mean there isn't a logical side to someone.... If that isn't enough, why should I trust anything you say? As far as I'm concerned, you could be the boss or rat just trying to get rid of another VOTING employee to make your chances of winning go up. If you dislike the idea of letting a perfectly logical and voting person stay in the game, at least agree that keeping her would increase the chance for the employees to win. If you can't agree with that, then I suppose you are the boss or the rat. Also, to compromise, in the off chance that braingle01 is the boss, why don't we form a majority against her in the next round?


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 10:28PM Mar 11, 2013

how does wanting to get rid of an inactive make me the boss or rat? Modfiring a non-participater will only help the employees, as she almost never joins majorities, and therefore is deadweight as far as catching the boss. Its a selfish way to play, and it should be punished, not rewarded.

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shrutibax


Posted: 10:39PM Mar 11, 2013

http://www.miataturbo.net/ attachments/ insert-bs-here-4/66987-vader-rods-2307890- anchorman-well-escalated- quickly_super-jpg?dateline=1360340695

(delete the spaces)

But seriously, not to sound like a pansy but I think both of you have legitimate points, but personally I feel like we can wait another round and see what the outcome is before deciding to modfire braingle01, since she is at the moment voting...
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bababawhompAus


Posted: 10:57PM Mar 11, 2013

Koin era,
We just went over the fact that she isn't actually inactive... She votes... sure.. I can't prove or disprove that she votes with a majority or not when it comes to who's the boss... but I would think I'd have heard more complaining about her if someone so selfish has been playing wtb and wwg for over 8 years... Also, I don't mind going with shrutibax's suggestion for the moment.
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buu441Ain


Posted: 10:58PM Mar 11, 2013

kmr-please read my posts properly before making the list. i had stated in my first post itself that i had voted for poofi. anyway, am changing now to princess to help with the majority.

edit: i vote to modfire braingle01 as well.


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shrutibax


Posted: 11:20PM Mar 11, 2013

So by my counts we so far have 6 votes for Princess - is that enough for a proper majority?
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bababawhompAus


Posted: 11:20PM Mar 11, 2013

Your name: bababawhomp
Item: divination card
Quantity: 2
Target, if applicable:
Use Immediately? : yes
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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 11:22PM Mar 11, 2013

shrutibax wrote:
So by my counts we so far have 6 votes for Princess - is that enough for a proper majority?

It might be, but if the rat or the boss is in that mix, we don't have a majority, so everybody who didn't vote fr princess 2007, please do so now, so we can have a proper majority.


Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open. ~Albus Dumbledore
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shrutibax


Posted: 12:01AM Mar 12, 2013

Yay, another clue! But these divination card clues are hard...
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 12:24AM Mar 12, 2013

Voting Table

Majorities
shrutibax-princess2007
bababawhomp-princess2007
koin-era345-princess2007
kmrutledge-princess2007
hermygranger123-princess2007
buu441-princess2007



Minorities
princess2007-Thekid4
caberet-shrutibax
poofi-kmrutledge
dcf525-buu441


Not yet voted/stated
braingle01
Thekid4



Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345
hermygranger123


If Thekid4 will post their votes, all but one person will have voted. Sorry about not noticing your vote buu.




EDIT: Fix some spelling errors


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shrutibax


Posted: 12:35AM Mar 12, 2013

Let's hope we get the majority this time!
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jarmihius


Posted: 01:02AM Mar 12, 2013

Clue #1: "It was the dawn of the Third Age of mankind, ten years after the Earth-Minbari war."
Clue #2: Hearts of Space

Answers to the riddle included any sort of identification card. However, buu441; shrutibax; and kmrutledge all submitted very good "borderline" answers, for which I will award each of them 1 point.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:30AM Mar 12, 2013

thanks but i dont think the points inventory has been updated yet, has it? i'd like to know my current points to decide my purchases.

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jarmihius


Posted: 01:32AM Mar 12, 2013

I was just getting to that. It should be updated now.

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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 01:42AM Mar 12, 2013

Can we make a purchase after the round is over?

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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jarmihius


Posted: 01:43AM Mar 12, 2013

You may declare your intent to make a purchase, yes. The transaction won't go through until the start of the next round.

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princess2007A


Posted: 03:20AM Mar 12, 2013

Ok. I honestly don't think the majority on me made much sense but whatever. I'll be glad if we've managed a clear.

Like I said before, I choose not to vote either way on the braingle01 thing. HOWEVER, I would like to point out that forming a majority on her is a complete waste of a round. The mod says in the very first post this round.
One of the players asked me to pardon braingle01. What do you think? That person's fate rests in your hands. Removing braingle01 because of the rule infraction will not earn the Boss any Firing Points.


If you notice, the last sentence refers to braingle01 and the Boss as separate people. While it is the mod's responsibility to be as fair as possible to both sides, it's a more than fair assumption that braingle01 isn't boss. Rat? Possibly.

Hearts of space, huh? I'll check that out now.

Edit: Wow. I'm no good at all with these clues. Since I can't find any links between a clue and the people here, I tried finding links between the clues to see what the general direction might be. So far I have
1. Both have something to do with outer space. Hearts of space is referred to as "space music" and Babylon 5 is ofcourse set in outer space.
2. Both start with voice-overs.
Probably not useful at all but I'm just thinking aloud.

Edit 2: Dcf?? Because his avi has "office space" on it? Clutching at straw, I know.


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dcf525*


Posted: 09:34AM Mar 12, 2013

I do not think it refers to me, because, well, I am not the boss.

I did look up the voice over information though, and the Babylon 5 intro was voiced by Michael O'Hare, who also played Commander Sinclair in the series. I have no idea if this is useful, or what it's connection is to Hearts of Space- just putting it out there, in case someone else knows something.


Edit: Okay, a little more info: I looked up 'shrutibax', and found that it (Shruti box, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sruti_box) is a musical instrument that has influenced world and new age music, like Hearts of Space music. It may be a leap, but it is something...


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shrutibax


Posted: 11:22AM Mar 12, 2013

Well that's actually a cool connection, but...I'm not the boss...

And anyways, shruti and sruti are pronounced completely differently
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Thekid4t


Posted: 11:39AM Mar 12, 2013

Aw man, like koin, this round started at the absolute worst time for me. I didn't vote this round, but if I had, I would have gone with princess. So long, guys. When I am fired, it will be because I am a mandi, not because of who I voted for. Goodbye, fellow employees. (I'll miss you least of all, boss ). I hate mandis, but at least I was partly active, so I'm not as bad as some others, right?

I'll still follow this game even after I'm gone.


EDIT: I do not think we should remove braingle01 from this game. She's not causing any problems, is she?


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jarmihius


Posted: 01:25PM Mar 12, 2013

I've received some questions (well, many of the same question) about the Divination Cards. The more you spend on a clue, the fewer Cuils (units of abstraction from reality) it has. The limit is three. If you spend more than three, you get more clues:

1 Divination Card: Clue with 3 Cuils (three levels of abstraction from reality requiring you to make a connection between three concepts)
2 DCs: Clue with 2 Cuils
3 DCs: Clue with 1 Cuil
4 DCs: Clue with 1 Cuil, Clue with 3 Cuils
5 DCs: Clue with 1 Cuil, Clue with 2 Cuils
6 DCs: Two clues with 1 Cuil each
7 DCs: Two clues with 1 Cuil each, Clue with 3 Cuils

...continue ad nauseam.

Clues are meant to narrow down the choice; however, after so many they simply point out the Boss because of (calculus). That is, as the number of clues increases, the closer the clues point to the Boss. This balances: you can have many difficult clues or a few easier ones.


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caberetAus


Posted: 06:10PM Mar 12, 2013

I'm all for removing Braingle01. She never posts in any game.

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:56PM Mar 12, 2013

Braingle01 is like the kid in school who does no work on group projects but doesn't get kicked out because she is friends with others in the group. Would you trust that kid to present the project, where it really counts? I know I wouldn't.

I hope we got the majority on princess this time around, but I'll have to check.

11 stated votes (including braingle1, who presumably voted for someone out of the majority.
Minus 2 for the boss and rat, we have 9 votes.
There are 5 needed for a majority.
There are 6 stated votes for princess2007
If the boss and rat are part of it, thats 4.
4 is not >= 5

End result: (redacted) Please refrain from swearing on Braingle.com. Thank you! ~Jarmihi


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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 08:16PM Mar 12, 2013

Let's not get rid of braingle01 just yet. I have been trying to encourage her to post a little bit. If you guys post bad about her, she may never post, but I think I have finally got to her.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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dcf525*


Posted: 09:22PM Mar 12, 2013

It is interesting that only Koin and buu are interested in voting out Braingle01, and they are almost adamant about it. No, wanting to vote her out does not automatically make you the rat or boss, but firing a probable employee only increases the odds for them. And, since she doesn't post, we cannot prove that she does not vote with the majority, so she is probably helping (the employees) more than hindering them. I think it is a waste of time to get a majority vote on her too- that is just one more round wasted not voting for the rat or boss.

That said, I am a little uncomfortable talking about someone in front of him/her. I get that some of you talk to her outside of the game, but I am pretty sure we are not supposed to bring in outside info or knowledge about a player. If she wants to post and explain her absence, great. If not, let's just move on.

Has anyone had any luck with the clues?


Sorry, nothing to see here folks, keep moving.
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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:41PM Mar 12, 2013

She notoriously doesn't help with majorities. That's why I'm worried about her endgame. And it's more than just me and buu.

Kmr, please get her to post, it would be a lot of help.

Im horrible at clues, but I'm doing my best.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:42PM Mar 12, 2013

Your name: koin_era345
Item: Divination Card
Quantity: 1
Target, if applicable:
Use Immediately? : Yes


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jarmihius


Posted: 11:27PM Mar 12, 2013

Loading the next round...

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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:38PM Mar 12, 2013

hey. anyone feel like doing any miracles?

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