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Who's the Boss Game #2934

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This game is moderated by jarmihi. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #4

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  

AuthorMessage
jarmihius


Posted: 11:45PM Mar 12, 2013

Note: you are the target of your own Employee Insurance, unless you want someone else to own the physical item. If you are fired, you then have the opportunity to PM me with your list of beneficiaries.

Please click here to peruse the player reports. I'll update these at the end of every round.

RULES
Here are the rules for this game:
Full Rules
Valid posts = 1; invalid posts = 0; spam = penalty/ModKill
Boss Bazaar & FP Algorithm
Good luck, and have fun!

BAZAAR
O hai! Take a look at my wares!..........Link to the Boss Bazaar..........Red means SOLD OUT.
Index | Name | Price | Remaining Stock | Effect

1 | Golden Quill | 4 | 1 per round | Allows you to write the next psych question.
2 | Employment Insurance | 4 | infinite | Allows target to give one's points/items to another player if target is fired.
3 | Divination Card | 5 | infinite | Reveals a hint about the boss. Collect these and spend multiple at once for easier clues. Cannot be combined with others' cards.
4 | Miracle | 5 | infinite | Does...something. Collect a bunch and find out! (Collect them and choose when you want to spend them, and then something will happen.) (Cannot be combined with others' Miracles.)
5 | Rat Trap | 10 | 1 per 24 hrs | Send the rat a challenge (you create it) to solve in 24 hrs. If the rat fails, xe is fired.
6 | Overtime Pay | 10 | 1 per round | All posts are worth double points, or negates a Lower Wages.
7 | Lens of Truth | 25 | 1 | Reveal identity of target. Works once per round.
Purchasing Form: (either place in a post or PM Jarmihi for a private purchase/use)
Your name:
Item:
Quantity:
Target, if applicable:
Use Immediately? :
If a private purchase, add 10% of the cost rounded to the nearest whole unit.

CHALLENGE LISTING
Riddle\Encryption Decryption
Decrypt the following and explain what the decrypted text is. Send your answer to me in a PM with "WTB" somewhere in the subject. First place wins 10 points, second place wins 5 points, third place wins 2 points. After that is one point.

7 19 22 13 26 6 15 22 7 12 12 16 6 11 26 20 9 22 26 7 19 26 14 14 22 9 7 12 8 14 18 7 22 7 19 22 23 4 26 9 5 22 8 26 13 23 19 22 4 22 11 7

This Challenge lasts until the end of Round 4.

Keyword Challenge #1
If any player posts a valid post with the secret Keyword in it, he or she will win a free item! The word is a potentially everyday word. (So, it's not 'hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia'.) Word lists do not count. The word must be found in a sentence inside a valid post. This has a good history of promoting activity, so let's see some interesting stories! (Update: remember that the post does not have to be about the game. Also, any tense of the word will work as well [*-s, *-ing, *-ed, *-like, etc. will all do.) This Challenge lasts until the end of the game.

POINTS AND INVENTORIES..........Current as of 01:05 EST Wednesday.
bababawhomp = 2 (FIRED)
braingle01 = 2
buu441 = 10
caberet = 6
dcf525 = 4
hermygranger123 = 10 (FIRED)
kmrutledge = 5 | Employment Insurance
koin_era345 = 3
poofi = 10
princess2007 = 1
shrutibax = 30 | Employment Insurance
Thekid4 = 11 (FIRED) Oops!

(See the full reports here.)

THE BOSS = 0 FP (*Miracle* = -25, bababawhomp = 0, hermygranger123 = 0, Thekid4 = 0, 4wheels = 5, fireball14 = 5, Jayo = 3, heymannow = 3, nayru = 2, priceas14 = 3, Raksha = 2, xylo = 3)


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jarmihius


Posted: 11:46PM Mar 12, 2013

koin_era345 used a Divination Card!

Clue #1: "It was the dawn of the Third Age of mankind, ten years after the Earth-Minbari war."
Clue #2: Hearts of Space
Clue #3: "Whatever begins, also ends."


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shrutibax


Posted: 12:00AM Mar 13, 2013

Sent in my answer!

Apparently, clue 3 is a quote from Roman philosopher Lucius Annaeus Senaca...mean anything to anyone?
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jarmihius


Posted: 12:07AM Mar 13, 2013

shrutibax correctly answered the Riddle! +10

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shrutibax


Posted: 12:43AM Mar 13, 2013

Ooh, yay!

In this round, I say we should vote for or try to clear DCF, because I've found a (tenuous) tie to the first clue.

As we've discovered, the quote in clue 1 was from season 1 of Babylon 5, and when I looked up the writers, one of them was D. C. Fontana, or DCF...

I'm not entirely convinced, of course, that dcf is boss, but I think it'd be beneficial for us to try and go for a clear, at least?
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shrutibax


Posted: 12:47AM Mar 13, 2013

By the way, Jarmihi, don't you need to write "Fired" by TheKid's name too? (Or am I missing something...)

I use fatigue as my excuse.


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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 12:50AM Mar 13, 2013

I agree with you on the dcf525 thing, and I am awful at decryption.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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shrutibax


Posted: 12:59AM Mar 13, 2013

I know we only have two votes, but I decided I might as well!

Majorities
shrutibax - dcf525
kmruttledge - dcf525



Not yet voted/stated
braingle01
buu441
caberet
koin_era345
poofi
princess2007
dcf525


Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345


I'm not sure how much the modfire braingle01 thing really applies anymore, but I kept it on
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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:19AM Mar 13, 2013

i agree with the dcf vote. and princess is pretty much clear after the firings, unless both of them forgot to vote or lied about their vote, which is very much unlikely.
so i'd like to wait for her to get on and hear what she's got to say.

voting dcf525


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shrutibax


Posted: 01:33AM Mar 13, 2013

Update

Majorities
shrutibax - dcf525
kmrutledge - dcf525
buu441 - dcf525



Not yet voted/stated
braingle01
caberet
koin_era345
poofi
princess2007
dcf525


Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345


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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:38AM Mar 13, 2013

and yeah. i vote to modfire braingle01. she hasn't posted once, which means that the boss will get a lot of firing points from firing her. am pretty sure no one here wants that happening. guys, please get the mod fire done. she is not helping in the discussion at all, and she'll end up giving the boss more points to use the pink slip and all.

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shrutibax


Posted: 01:46AM Mar 13, 2013

Oh my gosh, I totally never realized that - then again, since braingle01 hasn't been fired yet, is she at risk?

This does bring up the point, however, that braingle01 most likely does not vote with the majority...

Update

Majorities
shrutibax - dcf525
kmrutledge - dcf525
buu441 - dcf525



Not yet voted/stated
braingle01
caberet
koin_era345
poofi
princess2007
dcf525


Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345
buu441
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 01:54AM Mar 13, 2013

I still think that we should keep braingle01 on a little longer. I am completely opposed to modfiring her. Now, I don't care what everyone else thinks, but she is still a good player. You can see that from wwg games that she is in. I have been talking to her by way of pm, and she says that she read the last round, and now she is trying to get somewhere with the rules of this game. She said, that she is not good at logic, and she is trying to get somewhere with our conversation.

Voting table

Majorities
shrutibax - dcf525
kmrutledge - dcf525
buu441 - dcf525


Not yet voted/stated
braingle01
caberet
koin_era345
poofi
princess2007
dcf525

Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345
buu441

Against modfiring braingle01
kmrutledge


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braingle01*


Posted: 02:28AM Mar 13, 2013

It's confusing and also I don't understand how to do the challenges so if you think it's about dcf I'll have to take your word and follow along because I don't have another opinion.
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shrutibax


Posted: 02:31AM Mar 13, 2013

Hello! Welcome!

To be honest, we're still struggling with these challenges - you're not the only one but basically we're just trying to establish a link between the clues and one of the players (us) - I think I may have found a possibility, but we should keep looking.
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shrutibax


Posted: 02:32AM Mar 13, 2013

Yup, kmrutledge has me convinced

Voting table

Majorities
shrutibax - dcf525
kmrutledge - dcf525
buu441 - dcf525
braingle01 - dcf525

Not yet voted/stated
caberet
koin_era345
poofi
princess2007
dcf525

Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345
buu441

Against modfiring braingle01
kmrutledge
shrutibax
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princess2007A


Posted: 04:35AM Mar 13, 2013

Well, since braingle01 has posted (Yay! And Welcome!), I join the majority against modfiring braingle01. Voting dcf because shruti's solution is probably the closest we've gotten yet.

Working on that challenge. And the new clue.

Plus, I'm cleared? Yay! But I guess I better make my purchases or buy employment insurance this round. Since I'm voting with the majority, I'll probably be fired as a lemming if we're wrong about dcf.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 04:42AM Mar 13, 2013

hey braingle glad to see that you finally posted in a game. keep this up in your future games. hope to hear more from you.

so far, of the 5 stated votes, all are on dcf. so this is definitely a majority for now.
if we get enough votes, i don't mind if princess shifts to another player to save herself. i'd want all cleared players safe for the next few rounds.

@shrutibax: it'd be cool if you could get upto 33 points in this round itself and get a lens of truth. i won't mind the identity of kmr. but it shouldn't be only me deciding that. so i guess everyone can say whom they'd want identified, including you, and based on that, you use the lens of truth.


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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 04:44AM Mar 13, 2013

Glad you decided to join us braingle01!


Voting table

Majorities
shrutibax - dcf525
kmrutledge - dcf525
buu441 - dcf525
braingle01 - dcf525
princess2007- dcf525

Not yet voted/stated
caberet
koin_era345
poofi
dcf525

Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345
buu441

Against modfiring braingle01
kmrutledge
shrutibax
princess2007


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buu441Ain


Posted: 05:04AM Mar 13, 2013

hope cab, koin, poofi and dcf join us soon. 6/6 on dcf so far. assuming both rat and boss are among those 6, 4/4 on dcf, which is still a majority. this round is going cool.

@mod: is it against the rule to discuss whom we voted for in the previous rounds? if not, then i would like to ask braingle to list heo votes for the first 3 rounds.


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princess2007A


Posted: 05:20AM Mar 13, 2013

@buu441- Yeah. It's against the rules. Somewhere in a previous round this game, I made a voting list after the round ended. The mod pointed out it's against the rules.

Also, I haven't played a whole lot with cabaret, but I thought she was a very active player. I'm not completely sure ofcourse, but is she trying to keep a low profile as rat/boss?

I don't about the Lens of Truth thing. It's sort of dicey... I would rather the people with the most points all buy employment insurance or stay out of a majority so we can use the points to buy a Lens later in the game. Right now, we have like a 2/7 chance of hitting either a rat or a boss (I'm considering me and braingle01 cleared). Hitting a rat isn't particularly useful, so more like 1/7 chance of getting a boss.

Someone might want to consider the Overtime Pay next round. If we're all active that could a whole lot of points!

I can't find anything to connect dcf to the third clue. Oh well.

Edit: Wrong button again!


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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 05:25AM Mar 13, 2013

Your name: kmrutledge
Item: Employment Insurance
Quantity: 1
Target, if applicable: braingle01
Use Immediately? :If I get fired

I haven't gone in and tallied everything yet; I'm just checking on the game for a moment. I know what you mean, and I'm going to change the description of the item, but for future notice (to you and everyone), you are the target of your own insurance policy. Then if you are fired I will ask you for your beneficiaries. (Unless you want to give an Insurance item to braingle01?)

For clarification, you mean that you want to be insured, and if you are fired, that your stuff and points all go to braingle01?


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princess2007A


Posted: 05:30AM Mar 13, 2013

I sent in my answer to the riddle. This was actually easier than I'd expected.

More work on the clues I guess.


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braingle01*


Posted: 06:34AM Mar 13, 2013

Buu, on your latest post you said we have 6/6 on dcf but I can only see 5 on the list?

Maybe we can identify the most suspicious person beside dcf. If we weren't voting her, who would we vote? It's like an extra round. Instead of voting and either we get boss or clear somebody, just choose somebody and it's the same thing. I don't understand why princess is saying only getting boss useful? But honestly I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense.
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buu441Ain


Posted: 07:17AM Mar 13, 2013

i guess i made a counting error. but it did look like 6 to me :/ still, its the same. its still 100% on dcf unless someone has voted without posting.

i know it is against the rules to discuss the voting after voting for that round is over. but in the next round, dont we always clear someone based on who they voted for in the previous rounds?? like this round, i said princess was cleared coz people who voted her last round were fired. this sure is confusing.


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jarmihius


Posted: 08:35AM Mar 13, 2013

buu441 correctly answered the Riddle! +5
princess2007 correctly answered the Riddle! +2


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princess2007A


Posted: 08:52AM Mar 13, 2013

braingle01 wrote:
Buu, on your latest post you said we have 6/6 on dcf but I can only see 5 on the list?

Maybe we can identify the most suspicious person beside dcf. If we weren't voting her, who would we vote? It's like an extra round. Instead of voting and either we get boss or clear somebody, just choose somebody and it's the same thing. I don't understand why princess is saying only getting boss useful? But honestly I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense.


I don't fully get what you're saying. You're referring to the Lens of Truth, right? In that case, what I'm saying is that right now we don't have a whole lot to go off of and I very much doubt many of us would agree on who to use the Lens on. You're right when you say "it's like an extra round." However, 33 points is a lot to spend if we don't have a decent chance of finding the boss.

Secondly, about what I said about finding the boss. Let's suppose we use the Lens and "divine" a rat. What now? A good rat would throw suspicion on themselves and on quite a few people, not necessarily including or excluding the boss. That's why, in my opinion atleast, divining a rat is completely useless. I'm suggesting that we wait a round or two, have the people with the most points hang on to their points and buy/use a lens later in the game.

Just my opinion, though. And you don't sound illogical, at all! You should really post in games from now on.

@buu- I think the rules mean that a person can't state who they voted for or whether they voted for who they said they'd vote for. I believe we're allowed to draw conclusions from previous votes. Anyways, this is really the Mod's call. Jarmihi, could you answer buu's question? Are we allowed to ask braingle who she voted for?


Edit: I really want to buy a couple of miracles now. But I'll wait until Jarmihi's tallied the points.


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princess2007A


Posted: 09:07AM Mar 13, 2013

Ok. So I'd love to wait but I understand the Mod has a lot to tally and I have to get off now.

My Purchase:

Your name: princess2007
Item: Miracles
Quantity: 2
Target, if applicable: ----
Use Immediately? : YES

Good luck with whatever we get from the miracles.

(Mod, I have 7 points now+ 4 from posting+ 2 from answering the riddle= 13, right? If I'm wrong and have less than 12 points, just ignore the purchase)


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jarmihius


Posted: 09:30AM Mar 13, 2013

Scoring Bookmark

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:39AM Mar 13, 2013

Jarmihi, when are you starting the rounds?

I think the dcf thing is a very good catch, nice job! I'll vote dcf now but I can say more later when I get out of school.


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caberetAus


Posted: 10:37AM Mar 13, 2013

I vote for kmrutledge as boss/rat. Why else would we want to keep a non-posting player like Braingle01 in the game?

As stated last round, I vote to modfire Braingle01.

Edit to correct spelling of my vote.


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jarmihius


Posted: 10:50AM Mar 13, 2013

I'm hard-pressed to fire braingle01 now that she is posting, especially with the mixed response on whether to hold her accountable for the last three rounds. That rule came to be a way to get rid of nonparticipating players early. However, it has been proven that braingle01 is a participating player.

I am starting the rounds around 1-2 AM EST. Why? Because now I'm no longer on my break and have to juggle this with my classes...although I should be paying attention right now. "I'm sorry, what was that professor? The relevant costs? Uh, uh... "


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dcf525*


Posted: 11:20AM Mar 13, 2013

Welcome Braingle! I do not blame you for being confused- the Boss and rat are doing a very good job of keeping the employees fooled.

I will not be voting for myself since I am not the Boss, but mostly, I do not want to be a Lemming and at risk for being fired.

I think we are too far along to continue clearing random players- the majority on me seems pretty clear, and I won't argue against it- but maybe we should form logical arguments for voting for someone in the next round.

Mod, I see that we cannot combine Divination cards with those of other players, but can we combine Miracles? If so, and if Princess doesn't mind, I would like to purchase one and combine it with hers.


Er, no. This hasn't come up before, but items are not shareable. ~Jarmihi

Your name: dcf525
Item: Miracle
Quantity: 1
Target, if applicable: ?
Use Immediately? : Yes

My vote is for buu.


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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:36AM Mar 13, 2013

Your name:buu441
Item:miracle
Quantity:4
Target, if applicable:?
Use Immediately? :YES!


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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:38AM Mar 13, 2013

caberet votes kmr, dcf votes me, koin votes dcf for now.
so that'd make 6/8 stated votes on dcf. still enough for a majority for now. still waiting for poofi to come online. a mandatory at this point really won't help much.

p.s: i just separated my purchase and my post. hope that doesn't count as double posting rule break.


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shrutibax


Posted: 11:51AM Mar 13, 2013

I'd contribute to miracles, but I think it'd be in all of our best interests if I saved my points...



Your name: shrutibax
Item: employment insurance
Quantity: 1
Target, if applicable: princess, since she's clear, or if we both get fired kmrutledge
Use Immediately? : I guess?

You are the target of your own Insurance policy, unless you are gifting the item itself to someone else.


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princess2007A


Posted: 01:35PM Mar 13, 2013

Ok! Lots of purchases! I like the mystery of miracles.

Since we have lots of votes on dcf and I'm cleared, I'd like to switch my vote to cabaret. This isn't going to hurt the majority on dcf. I think the memos could possibly be her. Also, braingle01's posted. Why would we want to modfire her now, cabaret? Or did you miss that?

I'm hoping the miracles somehow give us easier clues. I can't figure any of the other 2 (even assuming shruti's right about the 1st one).


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poofitus


Posted: 02:28PM Mar 13, 2013

Alright. i Guess i will join the majority on dcf.

Good men eat to live. Bad men live to eat. -Socrates
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jarmihius


Posted: 02:47PM Mar 13, 2013

Scoring Bookmark.

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dcf525*


Posted: 03:26PM Mar 13, 2013

Mod, will we know when the miracles have happened?

Edit: I see one Miracle, in that the Boss has lost all of his points.


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koin_era345tus


Posted: 07:00PM Mar 13, 2013

Hoping dcf is the boss - I'm not sure how the other 2 clues point to him but the one seems pretty solid.

However, if its wrong I think we should look at the psych answers, those could give us some good info.


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jarmihius


Posted: 10:49PM Mar 13, 2013

All three of the miracles have already occurred. They are all instant turnovers, that is, there is no waiting: the effect just happens. To retain the mysticism of the miracles, their effects are not made obvious.

For clarification, the more Miracle items you spend, the stronger the effect of the Miracle.


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dcf525*


Posted: 10:54PM Mar 13, 2013

Sorry to disappoint (?), but I am not it. I think more of you should have bought Employment Insurance, lol.

Sorry, nothing to see here folks, keep moving.
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 11:23PM Mar 13, 2013

Voting table

Majorities
shrutibax - dcf525
kmrutledge - dcf525
buu441 - dcf525
braingle01 - dcf525
princess2007- dcf525
poofi - dcf525
koin_era345 - dcf525

Minorities
caberet - kmrutledge
dcf525 - buu441

Modfire braingle01 majority
koin_era345
buu441
caberet

Against modfiring braingle01
kmrutledge
shrutibax
princess2007


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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:59PM Mar 13, 2013

i somehow ended up with 10 points instead of 1 after my purchases. must be another miracle this is cool.

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jarmihius


Posted: 12:19AM Mar 14, 2013

Whoops! I undercharged you! My fault. Should have been 20, not 15. Still, that would have left you with 5.

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dcf525*


Posted: 07:16AM Mar 14, 2013

Kmr, please add to me to the majority against firing Braingle01. Thanks!

Sorry, nothing to see here folks, keep moving.
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princess2007A


Posted: 07:19AM Mar 14, 2013

The Mod did say that he was "hard-pressed" to fire braingle01 now so maybe we should just get rid of that whole part.

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koin_era345tus


Posted: 09:12AM Mar 14, 2013

I change from modfire braingle01 to no vote.

If not dcf, I wonder who the clue points to. I guess now we just wait and hope we don't get fired.


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jarmihius


Posted: 09:56AM Mar 14, 2013

princess2007, yes, actually. You aren't supposed to be able to say that. It's in Da Rulez. I've really been lenient with this. Of all the rules I should be enforcing, original rules should be at the top of the list.
Players may only discuss who they will vote for during the current round. Once the voting deadline passes, players may not say who they voted for or whether they voted for who they said they would vote for. Any violations of this rule will put those players on the firing list for rule infractions.


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