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Who's the Boss Game #2945

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 6 rounds.

Discussion of Round #4

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  

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mocha613Aus


Posted: 05:48PM Apr 23, 2013

Thanks mocha.

I am sorry but for a few reasons, there will not be a story this gam. I did not mean to let those of you down, who wanted one. But due to a few RL things getting in the way and a lack of time to make anything that I am statisfied with with the free time I have. I just feel like it's a bit too late to start the story.

I will have one next time. But I won't have a story after all. Apologies.

I will not be on until much later today. So expect a delay before the staert of the next round.

Sorry to let you down. Stewie.


---This message was edited on 2013-04-24 09:07:41---

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 05:53PM Apr 23, 2013

So, as far as I can tell, the following people are cleared:
buu
Kal
Mocha
Roman

This leaves:
dcf
Faith
jayo

I'm ok with those odds. Problem is our cleared people are going to have to start voting in the majority. I am willing to do so. Later this evening I want to look through the responses people have made about the memo. I am not familar with anyone in here, so will have to go by what is posted in this game. Perhaps other people will have a better feel?


"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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FaithDushkuAus


Posted: 07:25PM Apr 23, 2013

Ok, I haven't played for a while... I get that Roman had a majority, and no one was fired, so he's cleared? And the same goes for Buu... Mocha and Kal, ya'll voted for HABS and nicats in round 1, and they both got fired, so that clears ya'll because...? Not arguing the Clear, just making sure I understand the logic of it (it's literally been about 4 years since I've played this and WW (although I'm on my 2nd WW game since coming back to Braingle, but still, it's been a while)...

We're running out of people... and choices, which I guess is a good thing... If ya'll want to clear me this round, you can... I'll probably continue my vote for Jayo this round, unless something else comes up..
.


Five-by-Five...
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dcf525*


Posted: 07:45PM Apr 23, 2013

I believe this means Roman is clear, I'm just not 100% sure @ whether majority means most votes or most players voting for the same person.

I'll vote for Jayo this round, for the reasons listed last round, plus he volunteered himself. I feel like this is a (very risky) ploy.

EDIT: If Faith and I vote to clear Jayo, we only need one (or two?) cleared player to vote for him too. This way, some are still protected.


---This message was edited on 2013-04-23 19:48:32---

Sorry, nothing to see here folks, keep moving.
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RomanG417Aus


Posted: 08:31PM Apr 23, 2013

In terms of clearing players, majority just means that the highest number of players votes for that person. Then the players in the majority can be fired. In the first round, we had a majorities of one. However, for the employees to win the game, the boss must receive at least 50% of the votes, not just the highest number.

Under the rules, no one who votes for the boss can be fired. In round 1, HABS voted for 21K, and nicats voted for mocha. When HABS and nicats were fired, this meant that 21K and mocha were not the boss. In round 2, J-Boy voted for buu and was fired, so buu was cleared. Same thing with Tan voting for me last round.

As for lilly being fired. If she was the rat, she could only be put on the firing list if the boss got 25% or more of the vote, or if she didn't hack the network. According to the voting list last round, Jayo received 2/8 stated votes (2/7 if you consider that the boss didn't actually vote), so I'm feeling pretty good about getting a majority on Jayo this round. Since I'm a cleared player though, I'm not sure if I want to be in the majority, so I'm going to wait to vote until later in the round, just to see where everybody is on this.
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 08:48PM Apr 23, 2013

Faith, from the rules:
The Boss is only allowed to fire people who are on the Firing List. The Firing List contains the following people: 1. Lemmings 2. The Rat (If the rat forgets to hack the network, or if the Boss has received 25% or more of the votes) 3. Anyone that the moderator adds to the list for rule infraction or disorderly conduct.

If you voted for The Boss, you cannot be put on the Firing List.
Because Nicats voted for me and HABS voted for Kal, we know mocha and Kal can't be the boss because if they were, Nicats and HABS couldn't have been fired. The only exception is if nicats or HABS didn't actually vote for mocha and Kal. /talking in third person.

Does that make sense?

On a different note, I'm willing to enter into a majority for the good of the game. I'm voting for Jayo.

If the rat has been fired (and I believe they have), then we only need three people to vote for one person to guarantee that we have a majority. If the rat is still here, we need 4 to have a majority. Do we risk improperly clearing someone to not lose a second cleared player?


"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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buu441Ain


Posted: 10:40PM Apr 23, 2013

nope. when i do stuff, i see it through so i will pile on the majority on jayo. doesn't matter if i get fired. you'll have one more cleared player, so greater chance of winning the game.
guys. go get a clear or a win!!


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 10:49PM Apr 23, 2013

Ok since we got 4 out of 7 stated votes for jayo we have enough to clear him so I will vote for faith.

I'm back
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 11:22PM Apr 23, 2013

Voting for Jayo (enough to clear)
buu441 --> Jayo
dcf525 --> Jayo
FaithDushku --> Jayo
mocha613 --> Jayo

Not voting in majority:
21kaldridge21 --> Faith
Jayo --> Kal
Not announced vote yet:
RomanG417


We do need to make sure that there are no other majorities than the one for jayo, so Roman and Jayo, make sure to vote for someone not voted for.


---This message was edited on 2013-04-24 12:32:29---

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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buu441Ain


Posted: 12:45AM Apr 24, 2013

i dont think 4/7 is clear if both rat and boss are there.
say both rat and boss say jayo vote. then we get 2/5 votes on jayo, which is not 50%. among the 4 votes, 2 of us are known clears. but the other 2 aren't cleared as yet. so 1 more stated vote on jayo should seal it for us.


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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JayoAie


Posted: 03:15AM Apr 24, 2013

buu441 wrote:
i dont think 4/7 is clear if both rat and boss are there.
say both rat and boss say jayo vote. then we get 2/5 votes on jayo, which is not 50%. among the 4 votes, 2 of us are known clears. but the other 2 aren't cleared as yet. so 1 more stated vote on jayo should seal it for us.


If the Boss votes for Jayo then Jayo isn't the Boss

Safety on Kal


Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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buu441Ain


Posted: 04:43AM Apr 24, 2013

assuming you aren't the boss. okay...i guess this is a bit complicated. if you are boss, then there will be 3/5, so a win. if you aren't boss/rat, then the other two are boss/rat. that'll clear you as not boss.

okay...we are good with 4 votes.


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 07:51AM Apr 24, 2013

4 ensures that there are really at least 2 votes (if the other two are boss/rat), which means those two are lemming voting together and would thus be on the firing list. If one of the people voting for jayo gets fired, we know he is not the boss. It is not enough to fire him (likely), but is enough to guarantee we learn something.

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 08:24AM Apr 24, 2013

I think this is one of the things the really need to update. I have been in several games where it comes down to having the right amount of votes and everyone has a different understanding of them.

I'm back
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 11:00AM Apr 24, 2013

Stewie, not a problem. Most important is that you have been around to do the essential functions of psych questions, so all is good!

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 12:33PM Apr 24, 2013

Roman, hope you make it back to let us know who you vote for!

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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dcf525*


Posted: 01:40PM Apr 24, 2013

Sorry I could not make it back before the end, busy day. I understand the necessary votes math, but why do we think the rat has been fired? Clearing the rat does not mean they leave the game. I think the rat is a cleared player still creeping around here, and I suspect Buu & 21kal.

Hopefully we got the Boss though, so all of this will be meaningless.


---This message was edited on 2013-04-24 14:21:05---

Sorry, nothing to see here folks, keep moving.
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RomanG417Aus


Posted: 03:00PM Apr 24, 2013

dcf525 wrote:
Sorry I could not make it back before the end, busy day. I understand the necessary votes math, but why do we think the rat has been fired? Clearing the rat does not mean they leave the game. I think the rat is a cleared player still creeping around here, and I suspect Buu & 21kal.

Hopefully we got the Boss though, so all of this will be meaningless.


I'm pretty sure we got our rat. We were confident that lilly was the rat from round 2 when she wasn't fired even though she never stated a vote. But I guess it is important to leave all possibilities open.

And I'm sorry I didn't say who I voted for this round. I've been searching the rules. I know I can't say who I voted for. Hmmm...

I'll just say that I voted, so if I am fired, I wasn't a mandatory. That should be nice and not against the rules, right?

EDIT: because I clicked on the wrong emoticon


---This message was edited on 2013-04-24 15:02:08---
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mocha613Aus


Posted: 07:42PM Apr 24, 2013

with that logic, roman, you could be the rat as well. Just because someone doesn't state a vote and not get fired doesn't mean they are the rat. You just proved that one might have voted without posting.

"Wir müssen wissen, und wir werden wissen." -David Hilbert
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