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Who's the Boss Game #2990

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This game is moderated by jarmihi. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 9 rounds.

Discussion of Round #1

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  

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jarmihius


Posted: 05:27PM Jul 28, 2013

Click here to peruse the player reports. I'll update these at the end of every round.
NEW! Click here to see everything Miracles can do!

RULES
Here are the rules for this game:
1. All normal rules apply except when an item is purchased and used.
2. Each round will have a Challenge. See the Challenge Listing below the Bazaar for more information.
3. Every constructive single post = 1 point. Double posts are worth zero unless three hours have passed since your last post. Spam/useless posts will not be tolerated, and will result in a warning and forfeiture of all points the first time and a ModFire the second time.
4. In purchasing an item, you MUST use the purchasing form found in the Bazaar section of this post.
5. You do not have to use an item once you have bought it. When you do use it, make it obvious to the dumb moderator.
6. The Boss has a private bazaar full of items. See that list here. He earns Firing Points (FP) by firing inactive players. FP can only be used at the Boss Bazaar. Similarly, the Boss can't use normal points at the Boss Bazaar. Here's the page explaining how the Boss earns FP.
7. The moderator colors are green, purple, and red. Please do not use them. Green is for comments, purple for official text, and red for important things like urgent announcements and warnings.
8. The use of the word "he" in reference to the Boss does not imply gender and is used simply to have a pronoun.
9. Discussion of log-on times is forbidden.
10. Any player who does not post in a round and fails to provide a legitimate excuse for the absence will be fired.
Good luck, and have fun!

BAZAAR
O hai! Take a look at my wares!..........Link to the Boss Bazaar..........RED means SOLD OUT
One Game Day (GD) is 24 hours of time during rounds. (That is, not the time between them.)
Index | Name | Price | Remaining Stock | Effect

1 | Golden Quill | 4 pts | 1/round | Allows you to write the next psych question.
2 | Employment Insurance | 4 pts | infinite | Allows you to give your points/items to another if you are fired.
3 | Divination Card | 6 pts | infinite | Reveals a hint about the Boss. Collect these and spend up to three at once for easier clues. Cannot be combined with others' cards.
NEW! 4 | Scry | 6 pts | infinite | Gain a hint toward the current Challenge.
5 | Overtime Pay | 6 pts | 1/GD | All posts are worth double points, or negates a Lower Wages.
NEW! 6 | Time Travel | 6 pts | 0 | Restart a failed challenge.
7 | Miracle | 8 pts | infinite | Does...something. Collect up to three and find out! (Cannot be combined with other players' Miracles.) What do these really do?
NEW! 8 | Rat Trap | 12 pts | 1/variety | Select one of the following: double points for 24 game hours, reveal a 2 cuil Boss Clue, or Scry. Then, the Rat has 24 game hours to choose between that or being revealed.
9 | Friend or Foe? | 12 pts | 1/game | Begin the Friend or Foe? minigame. You could win lots of points! (The purchaser will be reimbursed upon winning.)
NEW! 10 | Redistribute Wealth | 33 pts | 1 | Redistribute each player's points (but not items) as you see fit.
Purchasing Form: (either place in a post or PM Jarmihi for a private purchase/use)
Your name:
Item:
Quantity:
Target, if applicable:
Use Immediately? :
If a private purchase, add 10% of the cost rounded to the nearest whole unit.

CHALLENGE LISTING
Riddle\Jumbled Relations
Let's start off with an easy one. The first person to get it right wins 10 points, the second person wins 5 points, and the third person wins 2 points. After that is one point. Send your answers to me in a private message with the header "WTB #2990 Riddle".

If anyone gets it, the first Keyword Challenge will be unlocked! Anyone who correctly solves it before a Scry is used wins 3 bonus points!

The following four words are jumbled. Unscramble them and then explain how each word is related to each other.

FACOTHINTE
ZICGZEWSHUN
ZGGAUZNW
BIZLT

This Challenge lasts until the end of Round 1.
Keyword Challenge #1
If any player posts a valid post with the secret Keyword in it, he or she will win a free item. The word is a potentially everyday word. (So, it's not 'hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia'.) Word lists do not count. The word must be found in a sentence inside a valid post. This has a good history of promoting activity, so let's see some interesting stories! (Update: remember that the post does not have to be about the game. Also, any tense of the word will work as well [*-s, *-ing, *-ed, *-like, etc. will all do.) This Challenge lasts until the end of the game.

POINTS AND INVENTORIES..........Updated 14:51 EDT Monday
aragorn = 2
braingle01 = 2
buu441 = 7
dawnrising = 2
Faith511 = 2
HABS2933 = 4
hermygranger123 = 4
Kaipper = 4
kmrutledge = 5
KRUGERGIRL14 = 6
lissiclown = 11
max318 = 8
sonic102 = 9 | Employment Insurance
srbaxi = 14 | Employment Insurance
tigerlily024 = 4

(A player's points will not be listed until the player has at least two points. See the full reports here.)

THE BOSS = 0 FP (no firings yet)
In this round, the Boss will earn 3 - n, where n is the number of valid posts a fired player made.


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srbaxi


Posted: 05:31PM Jul 28, 2013

Hey guys! Ready for a fun game...

Got two of the terms, not the others D:


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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 05:42PM Jul 28, 2013

yaaaaaay!!! let the games begin

*vampscholar*
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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 05:48PM Jul 28, 2013

I'm going to safety vote for now.I think I know what the answer to the puzzle. Going to send it in right now.

Edit: My vote for kmrultedge has been saved.


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Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open. ~Albus Dumbledore
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srbaxi


Posted: 05:49PM Jul 28, 2013

Think I finally got it, after some hard-core web-surfing and some http://textmechanic.com/Word-Scrambler.html

Hope it's right

In terms of voting for the boss, random vote for countrygirl for the time-being, though I'm willing to change as information surfaces and if a majority pops up.
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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 05:55PM Jul 28, 2013

http://www.wordunscrambler.com/ was my savior lol...

*vampscholar*
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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 05:56PM Jul 28, 2013

KRUGERGIRL14 wrote:
http://www.wordunscrambler.com/ was my savior lol...


Me too!


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srbaxi


Posted: 05:57PM Jul 28, 2013

I literally just sat there for 5 minutes rescrambling the letters until something came up that looked semi-legit, which led me to the other terms as well.

In regards to the memo, am I the only one who thinks not having minutes/seconds would be really unpractical?
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 06:02PM Jul 28, 2013

Still stuck on one of them. Word unscrambler was not my savior haha.

I agree with srbaxi about the time...naming hours could be fun though!
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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 06:02PM Jul 28, 2013

Yeah, the whole minute/second thing would be weird. Sounds like the person travels if he/she would be worried about it being easier to keep up with the time.

*vampscholar*
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jarmihius


Posted: 06:03PM Jul 28, 2013

srbaxi successfully completed the Challenge! +13

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srbaxi


Posted: 06:04PM Jul 28, 2013

KRUGERGIRL14 wrote:
Yeah, the whole minute/second thing would be weird. Sounds like the person travels if he/she would be worried about it being easier to keep up with the time.


True - it could be someone who lives in a different time zone than the majority of people on braingle, presumably a different country/continent? A bit farfetched, but it's all we have to go on now. I'll see what snooping I can do...

@lissiclown: If you're stuck on one of the terms like I was, wikipedia can help?


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max318tus


Posted: 06:06PM Jul 28, 2013

Voting random for habs
Well off to work on the challenge and the keyword. Story time later or now or whenever i feel like it. Insert random words here just to extend this sentence to maybe make it possible to find the keyword here just to be fun.


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srbaxi


Posted: 06:09PM Jul 28, 2013

After a quick perusal of profiles, here are the people who live in places with radically different time zones than the US, which is where I'm assuming most of us are?
100ra, aragorn, buu, kmr, sonic

TBH chances are I'm just grasping for straws but might as well, I guess. Changing my randomish vote to sonic.
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 06:20PM Jul 28, 2013

@srbaxi: thanks, wikipedia did it! Figured it out now!

Timezone thing makes enough sense. I'm still not sure what the best voting strategies are, but I guess I'll vote for one of those people?
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srbaxi


Posted: 06:23PM Jul 28, 2013

This is only my 3rd WTB game, so I'm not intimately familiar with voting strategies either, but I don't think it should hurt to clear someone
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jarmihius


Posted: 06:42PM Jul 28, 2013

lissiclown solved the Challenge! +8
max318 also solved the Challenge! +5


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Kaippertus


Posted: 06:46PM Jul 28, 2013

Wow, this is a super active game, how awesome!

Since lissiclown and srbaxi have both asked about voting strategies - the ways I see most commonly for clearing are one of two. Either we do a Majority of One (MoO), where everyone votes for a different person (so we'd need someone to keep a voting list), or we get as many people as possible to vote for the same person in the hopes that they are the boss. Both of these hinge on the fact that you can't be fired if you voted for the boss. The second way is more risky because if the person is not the boss, it creates lemmings...definitely not something we should attempt in round one.

Do we want to go with Majority of One? I'm going to put in a random vote for buu441.
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srbaxi


Posted: 06:53PM Jul 28, 2013

So if we do MoO, which sounds like a good idea, would everyone be a lemming? Who would be fire-able?
If someone could make a voting list that'd be great; I'm on my phone so typing isn't that easy

EDIT: @jarmihi: idk if you explained this somewhere else, but in regards to the keyword challenge, what's a miracle essence?


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jarmihius


Posted: 07:10PM Jul 28, 2013

What? Oops!

It's something your lazy moderator forgot to remove from the description when he copied and pasted last game's description.


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jarmihius


Posted: 07:39PM Jul 28, 2013

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max318tus


Posted: 08:18PM Jul 28, 2013

So I walk into a swede fest and see a bunch of spoof movies and then a bunch of bad comedians make horrible jokes except that one sharknado joke, Lots of laughs and then it hits me that the after-party will have bad service. So bad that if I broke a glass the restaurant wouldn't care if I did break one. In fact, I had to break 2 glasses before they came. But they didn't come to clean up the glass. They came with the chips we ordered 30 minutes ago. But of course the best part was talking with the director's of the swede. They inspered me to do a swede. The winner was back to the future and the 2nd place winner was my friend. Go see a swede fest and avoid the after party is the moral of this story. I mean the twister movie totally needed a guy "Are you in good hands?" and tennis rackets for guns are Nerf guns. Go check out Swedes.
Now for A real story. There once was a an office manger named bob. He opened a file. The end.
EDIT: Yes I would like to go for a MoO but there is a lot of inactives so I wouldn't be surprised if it failed unless that is how it is supposed to work. And yes I did this just to put the word file and normal in it and tell you about swedes.
REDIT: Unless there aren't alot of inactives just names I don't recognized. They register in about they same level in my head for some reason


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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 08:25PM Jul 28, 2013

Here's my attempt at the Keyword Challenge:
I was walking down the street when I noticed a little rabbit on the side. As I stooped to pick it up, I noticed that my shoelace was untied and bent down to tie it. When I stood up again, the bunny had started scurrying into the forest. I started running after it, but no matter how fast I ran, I couldn't catch up to it. 10 minutes later, the bunny had finally stopped and I caught up to it. However, as I was about to pick it up, the bunny went into a little hole that was way too small for me to fit through.

There's only one option, I thought, I must make the hole bigger. So, I bent down and started to dig. Half an hour later, the hole was finally big enough for me to squeeze through. I bent down and positioned myself to go into the hole. Halfway in, I saw that the rabbit had exited out the other end. I started struggling to get out and miraculously, I started to inch out. When I got out, I had lost the bunny, until I noticed some paw prints on the side of a path and started to follow them. When I caught up to the animal that was making the paw prints, I saw that it had been a skunk, not a rabbit. By the time I noticed that, I had already pounced onto it and, scared, the skunk sprayed me.

At that point, I gave up and started to head home. When I got home, I saw the bunny again and finally caught it and brought it home as a pet. THE END!


Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open. ~Albus Dumbledore
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Kaippertus


Posted: 08:53PM Jul 28, 2013

srbaxi wrote:
So if we do MoO, which sounds like a good idea, would everyone be a lemming? Who would be fire-able?
If someone could make a voting list that'd be great; I'm on my phone so typing isn't that easy


No - if there is a majority on someone who is not the boss, then everyone who voted for that person is a lemming and may be fired. Generally whoever gets fired is the rat (if they fail to hack the network) or someone who forgot to vote. It's pretty safe to do MoO.

I may put together a voting list a little later if nobody else does it...
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 08:54PM Jul 28, 2013

Sent in my answers. I put in a safety for dawnrising on my way in.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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Faith511*lk


Posted: 09:18PM Jul 28, 2013

Dem... idk what the puzzle answer is... at all...

The meaning of life, is living
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 09:39PM Jul 28, 2013

I'm good with the MoO plan! I put in a vote for 100ra.
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srbaxi


Posted: 09:52PM Jul 28, 2013

I, too, have a story to tell. Hopefully I can articulate correctly because I'm pretty tired after a long day of shopping for school supplies...pencils, pens, highlighters, everything you could possibly need. I always try to be super organized before school starts, with binders, notebooks, index cards, even those cute little post-it notes but eventually I end up losing most of my stuff and just writing in one folder with looseleaf paper but oh well.

On to the story: Once upon a time when I was younger I was playing outside with my neighbors. We were outside their house on the driveway with all their bikes, balls, bats, other sports equipment, etc. They also had two dogs! I have no pets though I wish I had a rabbit. But anyways we're playing basketball and out of nowhere I pull out of my jacket pocket...or maybe my jeans pocket idk...a cigarette! Actually just kidding not a smoker especially when I was a kid.

Instead, the girl suggests we play baseball. Except instead of baseball we both take bats and try to hit softballs as far as we can. So I hit first and it goes really far, sailing into the grass beside the mailbox, off of the sidewalk. Then it's her turn: I take a step away and throw the tennis ball up in the air - she hits in with her metal baseball bat and BAM hits me right in the forehead. I (obviously) start crying immediately, I could tell I was bleeding. I run home to my mom, dad, brother and sister (and also my grandma+grandpa+uncle+aunt+cousin who were staying with us - visiting) and they get in their car/truck and drive me to the hospital on the highway. I was seeing stars! But luckily because it was nighttime and not in the bad way. When we get to the hospital, we pull up at the door and I walk inside. My parents fill out some paperwork and I talk to some nice nurses. Apparenly, when my mom showed me my face on her little handheld mirror, You could see straight through the wound to my skull :O

I get to ride a gurney to a room, where a funny doctor gives me stitches and shots (with no pain medication). At that point, though, I'm feeling pretty good. We drive back home and I get into my bed. I look at the clock and it's pretty late, but I decide to stay up and watch TV because I ABSOLUTELY ADORE watching TV. Seriously. It's a little weird. Monk, House, Psych, Modern Family, How I Met Your Mother, Community, Whodunnit, Once Upon a Time, and anything on Food Network are just a few of my favorite shows. I end up falling asleep, though - silly me! The next day, my neighbors walk over and bring me gifts in a gift bag! A lollipop, chocolate, candy, games, arts and crafts stuff, markers, etc. So all in all, no harm done!

PS: Sorry for the atrocious grammar and sentence structure! Just trying to fit in as many words as possible
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sonic102cin


Posted: 10:16PM Jul 28, 2013

Grrr, this round started when I was sleeping! . Jar, can you remove the "first gets 5, second gets 3" thing, because of timezone diffrences.

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jarmihius


Posted: 10:36PM Jul 28, 2013

The point bonuses for the Challenges provide a reason to actually do the challenges. If I were to make it so that everyone gets the same number of points, then one person might solve it and then tell everyone the answer, and then everyone would get the same score, and that's not acceptable.

The rounds typically start at various times, and there will be several more challenges, so there will be plenty of opportunities for you to place in the top three. For now, however, you can still earn 4 points for solving the Challenge by the end of the round, provided no one uses Scry, in which case it would be 1 point.

Which time zone are you in?


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sonic102cin


Posted: 10:45PM Jul 28, 2013

New Zealand Standard Time.

I don't think anyone used Scry since nobody has enough points. If they did, they would have don the challenge, ha ha.


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srbaxi


Posted: 10:58PM Jul 28, 2013

Though I got lucky this time, I'm also worried about the time zone. @Jarmihi - do you think you'd be able to give us a heads-up on what time you'll start the round, like you did this time?

Yes, in fact, that's something that I like to try to remember to do.


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sonic102cin


Posted: 11:03PM Jul 28, 2013

SR, I think you should immediatly buy three (or two if that's all you have) divination cards. I don't think you're going to survive this round if the boss is a good one, unless you have insurance.

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srbaxi


Posted: 11:05PM Jul 28, 2013

Why wouldn't I survive if we're doing the MoO thing? (Sorry I'm still new at this )
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sonic102cin


Posted: 11:10PM Jul 28, 2013

Because if you were voting on the Candidqte (person who gets most votes), you become a Lemming. The boss can fire Lemmings, and I think you might be gone since you have lots of points. (The boss gets about 11 firing points if he fires you)

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srbaxi


Posted: 11:15PM Jul 28, 2013

Since the boss earns 3-n points (n being the number of posts) I don't think he CAN earn 11 FP

And regarding being a lemming, I don't fully understand how the MoO thing works but I don't think I'll be a lemming? Regardless, you do have a point, so:

Your name: srbaxi
Item: Employment Insurance
Quantity: 1
Target, if applicable: Me?
Use Immediately? : hopefully not
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sonic102cin


Posted: 11:30PM Jul 28, 2013

SR, I think the target means the person who you want to send the points to when you're fired. So if you make yourself the target, you will send yourself the points when you're fired.

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jarmihius


Posted: 11:40PM Jul 28, 2013

srbaxi, you are correct in targeting yourself. If you are fired, I will then send you a message asking how you would like to split up your assets. If you were to target someone else, the actual Employment Insurance item would be given to that person. (Edit: of course, given the understandable confusion, I would confirm it with you first.)

The "target" is the person the effect applies to. The effect of Employment Insurance is that you are insured. If someone else is the target, they'd be insured, then.

I'll tally the points now, and then I'm off to sleep.


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sonic102cin


Posted: 11:45PM Jul 28, 2013

Oh, ok Jar. Sorry sr!

Keyword challenge:

I was walking down the street when I saw a man and a woman with a dog and cat. There was also two children, a boy and a girl,with them. The dog was on a leash, while the man had a folder in his hands. The woman was holding some groceries, the boy was holding a notebook and thr girl was holding a picture book. The kids then looked at me, and I moved away.


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Kaippertus


Posted: 12:18AM Jul 29, 2013

This is the current voting list. I hope I haven't missed any votes, there have been a ton of posts this round.

hermygranger123 - kmrultedge
Kaipper - buu441
kmrutledge - dawnrising
lissiclown - 100ra
max318 - HABS2933
srbaxi - sonic102

The following people have not stated a vote:

100ra
aragorn
braingle01
buu441
C0untryGirl
dawnrising
Faith511
Genesect1356247
HABS2933
KRUGERGIRL14
minakodeb
nitrobasel
sonic102
tigerlily024

I'll add to this post with the new information when I get up in the morning, or I might just repost it since this game moves so quickly.
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sonic102cin


Posted: 12:31AM Jul 29, 2013

I think the boss is right, we don't need a time system. Just sleep if it is dark, and wake up if it is light.

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braingle01*


Posted: 12:34AM Jul 29, 2013

safety for faith.

about the time zone, how does one time zone help? if it's 10 am everywhere in the world, those with no sun will still sleep won't they? or will they wake up when night is dark and sleep when it's light?
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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 12:37AM Jul 29, 2013

I am not so sure i will get the answer right for the challenge, but i am going ot keep trying. I will post a keyword challenge later.

The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
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sonic102cin


Posted: 12:42AM Jul 29, 2013

Your name: Sonic102
Item: Insurance
Quantity: 1
Target, if applicable: Me
Use Immediately? : Hopefully not

Voting aragorn.


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srbaxi


Posted: 12:43AM Jul 29, 2013

I was thinking about spending my points in the next round or so on 3 div cards or a friend/foe, but I'm definitely open to suggestions. Any strategies?
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sonic102cin


Posted: 12:49AM Jul 29, 2013

I would say take 3 div cards, since finding the boss comes first and foremost.

It might also help to 'donate' to the 'poor'.


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srbaxi


Posted: 12:56AM Jul 29, 2013

@jarmihi: what exactly does a friend/foe do, anyways?
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sonic102cin


Posted: 01:07AM Jul 29, 2013

Answer for challenge: *SPOILER!*


Fianchetto
zwischenzug
zugzwang
blitz

They are chess terms.


Highlight to see!


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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:40AM Jul 29, 2013

anyway, am playing with many new people this time, so its hard to get a read on the memo. but it sounds like an interesting concept all right. i get a feeling that the boss is a girl as i'd say most guys are fine with numbers for hours and wouldn't go around giving them names. and maybe the boss lives in a country where there is more than one time zone (which i think may have been pointed out by others before).

and i won't be writing long stories like the rest of you for the keyword challenge. if i get lucky in my posts, good for me. but not making more of an effort than necessary.

hope someone is active right now and i can roll off a few posts with them to earn more points.


Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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sonic102cin


Posted: 01:43AM Jul 29, 2013

Hi, I'm active!

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srbaxi


Posted: 01:45AM Jul 29, 2013

Haha buu is straight and to the point...and regarding your comment about the boss being a girl, it makes somewhat sense to me though I doubt it would really be possible to develop an accurate profile based on this memo
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tigerlily024*us


Posted: 01:48AM Jul 29, 2013

Ok, thanks sonic, I don't think it would count to submit an answer to the challenge now ...:/ because the mod has no way of knowing if we actually figured it out or copied what you said. I'm going to anyways, but....


On a entirely different subject, I just voted Max.

Edited because for some reason half my post didn't show up.


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sonic102cin


Posted: 01:52AM Jul 29, 2013

So as per the plan, let's make a MoO on krumtledge because she fits the bill per buu's theory. Plus, it's useful to clear some people.

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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:54AM Jul 29, 2013

but we need to start building up profiles based on the memo and narrow down the suspect list. that i generally the point of the memo.

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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sonic102cin


Posted: 01:55AM Jul 29, 2013

We can't really say much from this memo, though.

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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:58AM Jul 29, 2013

you don't make a MoO on kmr. get the terms right.
MoO- majority of one. which means everyone in the games votes for a different person, and there is no majority. that way from the firings, we can potentially clear the ones who they voted for.

what you are suggesting is building up a majority on kmr. more than 50% votes on kmr, and she'll most probably be cleared.

in this game, considering the fact that there will be mandatories in round 1, we should aim for a majority. we won't learn anything from MoO votes.


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sonic102cin


Posted: 02:02AM Jul 29, 2013

Oops I meant majority. Yes, we should start a majority on her.

Other than that, we should wait for srbaxi to get the three divination cards.


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tigerlily024*us


Posted: 02:05AM Jul 29, 2013

I don't know, it seems like there are a lot of active players, and that means less mandatory fires, and more people the boss can choose to fire.

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buu441Ain


Posted: 02:05AM Jul 29, 2013

@jar: i'd like to know how the friend or foe minigame works. please explain the workings??

no problem with a majority on kmr i guess. i had voted hermy on my way in. will change votes the kmr.


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sonic102cin


Posted: 02:08AM Jul 29, 2013

Still, bosses do like mandatories, since 1. it removes inactives and 2. lesser players.

Depending on the firings, we can predict if the boss is a "power gamer" or a "fun gamer".


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buu441Ain


Posted: 02:12AM Jul 29, 2013

lets see how many people turn up. there are more than 15 hours of voting left, so enough time for everyone to get on. but from experience, most 20 player open games have a lot of mandatory firings in the first few rounds.

and bosses really don't like mandatory firings. it reduces the number of active players they can fire. they'd rather fire some active threat instead of someone inactive.


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sonic102cin


Posted: 02:16AM Jul 29, 2013

Also, I would really like the Friend or Foe minigame workings to be a secret until used.

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buu441Ain


Posted: 02:25AM Jul 29, 2013

@jarmihi: got a question regarding overtime pay. does it apply to all the posts made in the round, including those prior to its purchase and use, or only to the posts made after it has been purchased and used? because it says 1/round, so i'd expect it to apply to the entire round.

p.s.: don't mind the bold and color. was used just to grab your attention in case you were just scrolling down fast.


Blue is an okay color, and I actually appreciate the fact that you did that. It did catch my eye!

I'm answering everyone's questions below.


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tigerlily024*us


Posted: 02:25AM Jul 29, 2013

Sonic, why would you want it to be secret?

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buu441Ain


Posted: 04:24AM Jul 29, 2013

seriously. you'd like to have some idea about where you are spending your points on. i make sure about how the benefits will accrue when i spend my points like with the overtime pay. it won't do us any good having it for only 12 hours or so when we could have it for an entire 24 hour turn.

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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:42AM Jul 29, 2013

buu441 wrote:
i get a feeling that the boss is a girl as i'd say most guys are fine with numbers for hours and wouldn't go around giving them names.

I'd have to disagree here, I think getting rid of minutes and seconds would make cordintaitng anyhing with someone next to impossible. Sure we will meet at "Rosebud" hour - but at what point during that hour? I am female and am one of the most anal people I know when it comes to being on time - smething this would make next to impossible.


and maybe the boss lives in a country where there is more than one time zone

Quite possibly, but don't think that really helps as most countries have mulitple time zones, and since the majority of players in this game are from North America (were there are a total of 8 Time Zones (Pacific, Mountain, Central, Eastern, Atlantic, NFLD, Hawaii, and Alaska).
Not sure about other countries though.


and i won't be writing long stories like the rest of you for the keyword challenge. if i get lucky in my posts, good for me. but not making more of an effort than necessary.

Nor will I, as I find it detracts from the game, and the posts attempting to hit keyword,, are just random, and give us a lot to muddle through but do little to help the game.
BUT again, the mod can do whatever he wants in his games.



in this game, considering the fact that there will be mandatories in round 1, we should aim for a majority. we won't learn anything from MoO votes. .


Sure we do, we learn as much as we do from a true majority. In fact, we can actually learn more, if we have 15 MoOs and in the first round 3 people get fired (not mandatoreis) then we have (potentially) cleared 3 people as you cannot get fired if you vote for he boss. In a 50%+ situation, we only clear the player who was not fired for being boss.

ANYHOO - voting Buu just because I can. And a mild suspicion


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:18AM Jul 29, 2013

ADDENDUM

Just to keep my thoughts separate, and the fact the above was getting stupid long:

My thoughts on the memo are that the idea of a single time zone and no hour divisions is impractial and would suggest to me a younger person.

I tend to think the opposite of Buu about who would want to do away with timezones, I wouldsay someone who does not live where they exist as anyone who lives in a place large enough to have multiple time zones can see.

FOr example with the current structure, when it is 8pm (still very bright daylight t in the summer) on the West Coast - it is 11pm in New York (quite dark) and 12:30 AM (the next day) in Newfoundland - how can they all be on the same time when it is light enough to play ball without outside lights in one local and pitch black in another?
I've already discussed my thoughts on the minutes and seconds. Good luck being on time for anything if that was how it would work.

FOR REFERENCE: (not this is based on the flag on the profiles and if no flag on what is stated)


Genesect1356247 AUSTRALIA

HABS2933 CANADA
hermygranger123 CANADA

nitrobasel EGYPT


aragorn INDIA
buu441 INDIA
sonic102 INDIA

100ra IRAN

dawnrising MALI

Faith511 SRI LANKA

kmrutledge THAILAND


C0untryGirl USA
Kaipper USA
KRUGERGIRL14 USA
max318 USA
minakodeb USA
tigerlily024 USA USA

braingle01 (NOT STATED)
lissiclown (NOT STATED)
srbaxi (NOT STATED)


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kmrutledgetth


Posted: 07:20AM Jul 29, 2013

Well, thanks for voting for me guys, it will clear me hopefully. Sent in my answers and i think they are correct based off the spoiler.

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KRUGERGIRL14Aus


Posted: 08:58AM Jul 29, 2013

Crossing my fingers for a good game. I feel stupid because when I was unscrambling the words, I thought half of them were made up =P And yeah, I don't see myself writing any long stories either, too much thinking lol.

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dawnrising*be


Posted: 10:04AM Jul 29, 2013

Voting nitro based on memo. No real evidence for nitro just a kind of hunch.

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aragornAin


Posted: 10:38AM Jul 29, 2013

I logged in just now since the round started. Seems like, a lot of conversation has happened since then.

It's difficult to pick someone at this stage. So random vote on kaipper.
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srbaxi


Posted: 10:53AM Jul 29, 2013

Wow, a lot happens when I'm asleep! For the time being, I'll keep up my vote on sonic since I think we should do MoO
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jarmihius


Posted: 11:14AM Jul 29, 2013

You guys are keeping me busy!

Okay, answers:


"Friend or Foe?" works by splitting the field of players into pairs. (If there is an odd number of players, the person who bought the item will be reimbursed for the item, but will not play.) Each person in the group then decides whether to vote "Friend" or vote "Foe." Thus, there are three possible outcomes:

Friend | Friend
Friend | Foe (or vice versa)
Foe | Foe

There will be a set number of points available based on the number of players remaining in the game. If both players in a pair vote "Friend," they split the winnings 50/50. If one player votes "Friend" and the other votes "Foe," the foe wins everything and the friend gets nothing. If both players vote "Foe," then no one wins anything.

There is no "hard" time limit, and it continues until both players in a pair have submitted their response to me via PM. If your partner in the game is fired, you will automatically receive 50% of the winnings.

It's a point grab. The person who bought the item is guaranteed to win no less than half the price of the item, even if xe loses. Also, I think I've decided that there will be only one of them per game.

Regarding the Riddle, you may still submit your answers for one point. The game is designed to have a response to someone spilling the answer, and it is working properly. (That is, you're not all earning 10 points right now.)

On the Overtime Pay: I'm working on phasing out the term "1 per Round" and phasing in the term "1 per 24 Game Hours" (or maybe "1 per Game Day"). Essentially, a Game Hour is 60 minutes of time that the game is active (so it doesn't include the time between rounds). Thus, if someone were to use a 1/24GH item with three hours left to go in this round, it would begin right then and end 21 hours after the start of next round. This is because posts don't count for points (or anything, really) between rounds.

BUT again, the mod can do whatever he wants in his games.
You make me feel bad! The Keyword Challenge came to be a very long time ago when I had six to ten inactives PER GAME, and I needed to give people a reason to post in the game forum, so I thought of a fun little thing to help with that. It might lead to some verbosity in a game with players this active (thank you!), but I see it as a success. There will be a link to a feedback survey at the end of this game: please feel free to elaborate more on your thoughts regarding the Keyword Challenge there.


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srbaxi


Posted: 11:21AM Jul 29, 2013

Friend/foe actually sounds really cool! I think we should try that...what do you guys think? It would be a good way to earn a lot of points
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Posted: 11:22AM Jul 29, 2013

kmrutledge correctly solved the Challenge! +1
KRUGERGIRL14 correctly solved the Challenge! +1


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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:56AM Jul 29, 2013

yup. i think someone should go for purchasing the game. it'd be fun as well.

i just noticed that my vote was still on hermy. hadn't confirmed the change to kmr. so change now confirmed.


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srbaxi


Posted: 12:15PM Jul 29, 2013

It seems like a fun thing and I think a point grab would be beneficial for all of us so:

Your name: srbaxi
Item: Friend or Foe
Quantity: 1
Target, if applicable: Me
Use Immediately? : Yes


I think it would be best for us all to vote "Friend", because it doesn't really matter who has the points - since we can buy items for each other, as long as someone has the points we'll be fine.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 12:39PM Jul 29, 2013

jarmihi wrote:
You make me feel bad! The Keyword Challenge came to be a very long time ago when I had six to ten inactives PER GAME, and I needed to give people a reason to post in the game forum, so I thought of a fun little thing to help with that. It might lead to some verbosity in a game with players this active (thank you!), but I see it as a success. There will be a link to a feedback survey at the end of this game: please feel free to elaborate more on your thoughts regarding the Keyword Challenge there.
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I'm sorry, that was not my intent. I know why you did it, I play mini games too to encourage activity. I was jus saying with the rambling posts of people hoping to hit on the keyword, it is a bit much to read.

There used to be a TV game show called Friend or Foe that was very similar to what yours.

While voting friend ensures a split pot, it would be easier to accumulate points if one person got them all.
I


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srbaxi


Posted: 12:45PM Jul 29, 2013

HABS2933 wrote:

While voting friend ensures a split pot, it would be easier to accumulate points if one person got them all.

While this is true, I think voting friend-friend OR each pairing deciding to vote friend-foe would be better than any possibility of foe-foe. For example, if 3 different people each have 6 points, 2 people can buy div cards and give them to the 3rd person, who can then buy a 3rd div card and use them all at once for an easier clue. The point I was trying to make is that we shouldn't have any possibility of lost points by voting foe-foe (which is somewhat obvious but heh...)

I agree, though, if each pairing wants to do friend-foe instead that would work well also.
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jarmihius


Posted: 01:13PM Jul 29, 2013

Please keep in mind that you can't transfer items between players. (Employment Insurance is an item that allows you to do so, but only if you are fired.) (It's implicit for all of the items; I specified Divination Cards because I figured people would ask.)

Thus, if someone had two cards and another had one card, and they both used them at the same time, you'd end up with 1 2-cuil clue and 1 3-cuil clue (where a cuil is one level of abstraction from the reality of the situation).


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srbaxi


Posted: 01:21PM Jul 29, 2013

Oh oops hmm misunderstood you. I thought if you put someone else as the target you'd give it to them...

Regardless, I still want the friend/foe, and I think we should decide one person in each pairing to get the points
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buu441Ain


Posted: 01:22PM Jul 29, 2013

I'll play this game for the fun of it and to accumulate maximum points for myself don't worry. the points will be used to help the employees in general.

@HABS: in my defence, I'd say i am a person who favours the notion of specific time as well. i play real time based browser strategy games where perfect timing is critical. I've seen strategies which involve sending four attacks within one second. and even more amazing was the fact that you set you defensive troops to return just after the first attack hits you but before the next three lands and the attack wave generally consists of a heavy army (called a nuke) followed by three lighter armies. this was called sniping or backsniping. all of there required precision to the millisecond. so there's no way I'd do away with seconds and hours.

p.s. this was my attempt at the keyword challenge as i had nothing better to do atm :p


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sonic102cin


Posted: 01:47PM Jul 29, 2013

Hey, that Friend/Foe thing is the Prisoner's Dilemma. I can do this!

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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 01:49PM Jul 29, 2013

buu441 wrote:
I'd say i am a person who favours the notion of specific time

I don't see how we could function without it. I if I tell you I'll be somewhere by 4:15, I'm there before 4! ! can't stand when someone is late even by a few minutes. Drives me insane.I like to joke that I was "2 months early for my own birth, and I've never been late since".


p.s. this was my attempt at the keyword challenge as i had nothing better to do atm :p

A long GAME RELATED post I get, you may luck upon the proper word but the posts that have nothing to do with the actual game are to me pointless and honestly I have not read any of them, as there is already so much actual game material to wade through.

The whole concept of the psych seems so far fetched, I can't imagine anyone really thinking it was a good idea. I hope the boss is aware that while you can hide behind the memo, the Psych has to be answered 100% truthfully.


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jarmihius


Posted: 01:51PM Jul 29, 2013

Here are the pairings. I explained the game in an earlier post, so please look there for information. Please send your vote of "Friend" or "Foe" to me in a PM with the subject, "WTB 2990 FF." There is no time limit, but if you are fired, your partner will be awarded 50% of the prize, which leads me to:

THE PRIZE! Because there are so many players, it will be 6 points.

100ra / C0untryGirl
Genesect1356247 / minakodeb
nitrobasel / aragorn
braingle01 / buu441
dawnrising / Faith511
HABS2933 / hermygranger123
Kaipper / kmrutledge
KRUGERGIRL14 / lissiclown
max318 / sonic102
srbaxi / tigerlily024

Friend/Friend: both players win 3 points.
Friend/Foe: foe wins 6 points.
Foe/Foe: no one wins.


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max318tus


Posted: 02:17PM Jul 29, 2013

Maybe the boss isn't so far fetched after all. Of course this is taking from a person who constantly travels instead of me.
The number of time you switch time zones is a lot if you travel a lot. So you see an ad for your favorite TV-show then you switch. If your a kid then maybe you forget to apply the time zone change and you miss your favorite TV-show. Silly reasons but maybe that is what the boss was thinking. Also I think the boss likes reading more than math because a kid who likes math likes making things with numbers and removing seconds and minutes would remove half the questions on math counts work sheets.


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srbaxi


Posted: 02:29PM Jul 29, 2013

The time zone thing makes somewhat sense to me but I don't understand why getting rid of minutes and seconds would be of value...

@Tigerlily - hey! IDK if you'll see this before the round ends but for the friend/foe game, I think our best option would be one of us does friend, the other chooses foe because 1 person with 6 points is stronger than 2 people with 3 points each. In my opinion, I should get the 6 points because with more points to start with, I'd be able to buy more div cards/miracles, etc. to benefit the group - but if you have a problem with this I'm open to suggestions.
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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 02:49PM Jul 29, 2013

sonic102 wrote:
Hey, that Friend/Foe thing is the Prisoner's Dilemma. I can do this!

That's what I thought!


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srbaxi


Posted: 02:52PM Jul 29, 2013

Yeah, I read about the Prisoner's Dilemma in a book!

For the record, guys, by my rough count we have 89 posts so far :O keep up the super-active-ness!
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srbaxi


Posted: 02:57PM Jul 29, 2013

@jarmihi Do I still get half the cost of the friend/foe back guaranteed since I bought it? Or am I interpreting that wrong?

Yes, once your pair has submitted responses.


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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 02:58PM Jul 29, 2013

srbaxi wrote:
Yeah, I read about the Prisoner's Dilemma in a book!


Me too!


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Posted: 03:08PM Jul 29, 2013

hermygranger123 has successfully answered the Challenge! +1

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nitrobaselteg


Posted: 03:30PM Jul 29, 2013

Random vote on HABS, as a random vote on someone in an area of many time zones.
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C0untryGirlAus


Posted: 04:30PM Jul 29, 2013

I'm going to randomly vote for srbaxi since I don't have any idea who the boss is.

It bothers me when I see tax money wasted on signs telling deer where to cross the road.
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Posted: 04:37PM Jul 29, 2013

(p oʇ ǝɯ ʇuɐʍ noʎ ʇɐɥʍ ʍouʞ ǝɯ ʇǝl ˙sʇuıod ǝɥʇ ǝʌɐɥ noʎ ƃuıʇʇǝl puıɯ ʇ,uop ı 'ıxɐqɹs 'oslɐ ¿ɐɯɯǝlıp sɹǝuosıɹd ǝɥʇ sı ʇɐɥM

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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 04:49PM Jul 29, 2013

srbaxi wrote:
The time zone thing makes somewhat sense to me but I don't understand why getting rid of minutes and seconds would be of value...


Okay, so if I live in Newfoundland and you live in BC (which are currently 4.5 hrs apart) how would that work? Whose original time zone would be the new one? Or perhaps we can all switch to Eastern time (3 hrs ahead of Pacific and 1.5 hrs behind NFLD). IT make no sense. And how can it be the same time in New York City as it is in Japan (which is currently 13 hrs ahead)?

I travel all the time (all over the world) and have never had a problem either dusting or readjusting to the differences.
As to your point about TV, chance are if you are travelling you won't have time for TV anyway and who says the show will be on where you are? When I was in Korea, there was only 1 English language channel available to me, and it never showed anything good. Not that I'd waste my time in a foreign country watching television anyway (I don't waste my time watching it at home either).


nitrobasel wrote:
Random vote on HABS, as a random vote on someone in an area of many time zones.


Go ahead and vote for me, though you are wasting your time. The boss MUST be HONEST in the psych, and I am always honest in the game (ask anyone who plays with me on a regular basis - even when I am the boss or rat I say nothing that is untrue (aside from denying my role). I think the time zone idea is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous to me (a person who when I set out on at rip has EVERY second accounted for (We are leaving at 12:45, we will drive until 3:30 when we will stop for dinner. We will leave the restaurant at 4:45 and drive until 9:15 when we will check into a hotel. We will be up and check-out of the hotel no later than 0500 and drive until we get to our destination at 1200.

I never say "I'll be there "around" 5. I say I will be there "AT" 5.

But vote for me if you wish, I am just saying it will accomplish nothing.


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srbaxi


Posted: 04:52PM Jul 29, 2013

:O tigerlily MIND BLOWN omfg upside down

The Prisoner's Dilemma is basically the exact same as the Friend/Foe game, but instead of playing for points, two prisoners are bargaining for prison sentences - http://www.investopedia.com /terms/p/prisoners-dilemma.asp (delete space)

Thanks for being understanding! I definitely think it would be best if I sent in a vote for Foe and you chose Friend - suggest what you want me to do with the points: Div. Cards or Miracles?

So I'm sending in my vote now...


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srbaxi


Posted: 04:55PM Jul 29, 2013

@HABS I agree with you on the time zone thing, and I don't really think you're the boss (I have no idea at the moment), but seeing that this is the first round, we're not forming a majority, and nitrobasel voted randomly, am I the only one who thinks it's a little suspicious for you to be denying so strongly?

(Also isn't 3:30 a little early for dinner?)


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Posted: 05:07PM Jul 29, 2013



/:ʎlƃuoɹʇs os ssoq ǝɥʇ ƃuıǝq ƃuıʎuǝp ǝɹɐ noʎ ʇɐɥʇ snoıɔıdsns ɟo puıʞ sı ʇı 'sqɐɥ 'oslɐ

˙llǝʍ sɐ ǝʇoʌ ʎɯ uı puǝs llıʍ ı puɐ ˙ƃuıɯɯɐɹƃoɹd ǝsıdsǝp I ɥsoפ ˙ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎɯ uo ƃuıpoɔ ǝɥʇ dn pǝssǝɯ ı ʞuıɥʇ ı 'uʍop ǝpısdn sʇı ʎɥʍ ʍouʞ ʇ,uop I


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srbaxi


Posted: 05:11PM Jul 29, 2013

HAHA oh no! (hilarious as it is) hope your computer gets fixed soon tigerlily!

Also, do you guys think it's a possibility that the boss just wants us to overanalyze the memo? Given the obscurity of his answer, chances are he just couldn't think of anything and maybe put down the first thing that came to mind...
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Posted: 05:18PM Jul 29, 2013

oʞ' ʇɥıs ısu,ʇ ɹǝɐllʎ dɹopnɔʇıʌǝ ʇo ʇɥǝ ƃɐɯǝ' qnʇ ı ɔɐu,ʇ ƃǝʇ ıʇ ɹıƃɥʇ ɯʎsǝlɟ' qnʇ ıs ʇɥıs ndsıpǝ poʍu ǝɐsıǝɹ ʇo ɹǝɐp¿ I ʍıll qɹıuƃ ɯʎ ɔoɯd ʇo ɔlɐss ʇouıƃɥʇ' ɐup sǝǝ ıɟ ɯʎ dɹoɟǝssoɹ ɔɐu ɟıx ıʇ˙

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hermygranger123tca


Posted: 05:22PM Jul 29, 2013

tigerlily024 wrote:
(p oʇ ǝɯ ʇuɐʍ noʎ ʇɐɥʍ ʍouʞ ǝɯ ʇǝl ˙sʇuıod ǝɥʇ ǝʌɐɥ noʎ ƃuıʇʇǝl puıɯ ʇ,uop ı 'ıxɐqɹs 'oslɐ ¿ɐɯɯǝlıp sɹǝuosıɹd ǝɥʇ sı ʇɐɥM


It goes like this:

Two members of a criminal gang are arrested and imprisoned. Each prisoner is in solitary confinement with no means of speaking to or exchanging messages with the other. The police admit they don't have enough evidence to convict the pair on the principal charge. They plan to sentence both to a year in prison on a lesser charge. Simultaneously, the police offer each prisoner a Faustian bargain. If he testifies against his partner, he will go free while the partner will get three years in prison on the main charge. Oh, yes, there is a catch ... If both prisoners testify against each other, both will be sentenced to two years in jail.


Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open. ~Albus Dumbledore
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srbaxi


Posted: 05:24PM Jul 29, 2013

Personally I found the earlier iteration easier to read, because that was just upside down but the second one is mirror image or something...
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srbaxi


Posted: 05:25PM Jul 29, 2013

Basically the interesting thing about the Prisoner's Dilemma is that when each individual person looks at their options, it would be better to testify than to keep silent - but both people testifying still produces a worse outcome than both keeping silent.
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Kaippertus


Posted: 06:03PM Jul 29, 2013

I find that Prisoner's Dilemma thing very interesting. The minigame sounds fun.

I'm sad I missed the end of the round though. Was going to update the voting list but we had a power outage
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jarmihius


Posted: 06:32PM Jul 29, 2013

I should mention that posts do not count for points after a round ends, and purchases will be postponed until the very moment the next round begins. Also, no one can get the Keyword in between rounds. The only thing that is active right now is the "Friend or Foe?" game.

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max318tus


Posted: 06:40PM Jul 29, 2013

The friend foe game is more like the hawk dove game. As the hawk dove game if both choose hawk they fight and lose something if they both choose dove they split and if one chooses dove and one chooses hawk the hawk wins. The correlation isn't there for friend for like that.
There is no game that i can find the represents friend for as in hawk dove and the prisoner dilemma if both rat/choose hawk they a better prize at a reduced cost where the better choice is to rat. The choice in friend or foe is similar but they logic is not always better to choose as there is consequence to not choosing to rat in prisoners when here it could mean losing everything. In this game there is no strictly dominated strategy it is a mixed. I will go look up the statically right choice soon.
In the prison you only benefit if both choose to walk while if you choose rat you benefit not matter what. Same with hawk-dove but not in this game
EDIT: I guess it would be wiser to choose foe but that would mean this is a game where points matter and not a team effort but this is so sonic you should have figured out what i chose by now if not well choose the nicest one because it will go a little further splitting points between us.
Redit: Foe weakly dominates friend for both sides meaning it would be wiser to chose foe as 6 is greater than 3 and 0 is equal to 0 therefor you should always chose foe because it weakly dominates friend. Unlike in the prisoners dilemma or hawk-dove in both cases they strictly dominate and not weakly dominate.
Rereedit: a while ago big brother did something exactly like friend foe so there


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:54PM Jul 29, 2013

srbaxi wrote:
@HABS I agree with you on the time zone thing, and I don't really think you're the boss (I have no idea at the moment), but seeing that this is the first round, we're not forming a majority, and nitrobasel voted randomly, am I the only one who thinks it's a little suspicious for you to be denying so strongly?


I didn't think I was denying it "strongly" just letting you into the insight that is me (since we have never played together to my knowledge).

Also isn't 3:30 a little early for dinner?)

It was just an example, in reality due to my husband's schedule, we rarely eat before 7pm . BUT that being said, if I were in California on vacay for the first few days, 330 would be like 630 to me. So until i adjusted, it would be fine.
My point was just I have everything planned down to the exact minute. Even with 3 kids under the age of 3 I was never late.

In any event, the round is over, so we cannot discuss our votes.


O Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done The ship has weather'd ever rack, The prize we sought is won.
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tigerlily024*us


Posted: 12:45AM Jul 30, 2013

it's better now

"Being in Harry Potter is like being in the Mafia. Once you are in, you are never really out." ― Daniel Radcliffe
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jarmihius


Posted: 11:38AM Jul 30, 2013

It looks like I'm going to try to start around 17:00-ish EDT this round. The Attendance Challenge isn't a "finish first, score highest" type of Challenge, it will be fair for everyone's schedules by default.

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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 12:13PM Jul 30, 2013

jarmihi wrote:
I 17:00-ish EDT


LOL - now THIS is what I would change. Daylight Savings Time! It is very confusing when certain areas observe it, and others don't. This means the difference between 2 time zones is not constant.
Also with the change of dates in North America a few years ago, we go into DST earlier than the rest of the world and come out of it later.

On average N. America spends from mid March to Early November in DST which means 7.5 months are spent in DST while only 4.5 months are in "Standard Time" - which makes little sense to me. Shouldn't the longer period be what is known as "Standard" and the lesser period be givne a differnt name? Perhaps Standard Time and "Winter Time"


O Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done The ship has weather'd ever rack, The prize we sought is won.
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jarmihius


Posted: 03:57PM Jul 30, 2013

The player reports have been updated. Follow the link in the Intro module or the Score module above to view them.

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