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Who's the Boss Game #2991

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #5

Round: 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  

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iamsam4tus


Posted: 06:18PM Aug 16, 2013

And round 5 begins!

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SaraGracetus


Posted: 06:22PM Aug 16, 2013

Ok wow already round 5.

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talanpoeAus


Posted: 06:57PM Aug 16, 2013

Interesting....

IMO, Kyle is triply cleared, Sara is cleared, and I know I'm not Boss. Rat is gone, so that leaves lissiclown (who didn't declare a vote last round but yet is still here) and Fintpops (who declared a vote for Sara along with me and Kyle.

Lissi would seem to be my vote this round.


Unless life also hands you sugar and water, your lemonade is going to suck!
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SaraGracetus


Posted: 07:10PM Aug 16, 2013

I am voting for Lissi, unless Lissi explains why she isn't the boss.

"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 10:58PM Aug 16, 2013

Hello again!

Sorry I sort of skipped out on last round...didn't realize that I actually posted nothing. I guess I'm not really allowed to say anything about voting now?

Anyways, from my perspective, it's down to talanpoe and fintpops. Still deciding who I'm going to go for.
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KyleBrawl*us


Posted: 02:26AM Aug 17, 2013

talanpoe wrote:
Interesting....

IMO, Kyle is triply cleared, Sara is cleared, and I know I'm not Boss. Rat is gone, so that leaves lissiclown (who didn't declare a vote last round but yet is still here) and Fintpops (who declared a vote for Sara along with me and Kyle.

Lissi would seem to be my vote this round.


Wrong! I am clear, but Sara is NOT clear! We did NOT get a majority on her:

Voting list:
sciencesteven: kylebrawl
saragrace: kylebrawl
talanpoe: saragrace
kylebrawl: saragrace
fintpops: saragrace
dawnrisng: kylebrawl
lissiclown:


Only three on each. A majority is at least 4 votes and it DOES count those who did not vote. If Sara is the boss, then lissiclown voted but didn't say for who. But if lissiclown missed the voting, then she must be the boss and made it in time for the memo.

Either way, Sara is most certainly not clear. She only got 3/6 votes (not counting boss of course) which is only 50% and does not count as a majority. I am only clear because the two who voted for e were fired.

I am voting SARA still!!!
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 06:53AM Aug 17, 2013

Actually, I'm pretty sure sara is clear. The rules are conflicting: one portion says "the boss must receive MORE THAN 50% of the vote" and another portion says employees win "when the boss receives AT LEAST 50% of the votes".

So I looked through my old games, and found one where in the final round, there were 6 employees, 1 boss, and 1 rat remaining. The boss received 3 votes and the game ended.

Therefore, if sara was the boss, she would have been fired after receiving 3 votes out of 6 employees.
Additonally, if she were the boss, she would not have voted, leaving us with only 2 votes for kylebrawl. In that case, sciencesteven and dawnrising would not have been lemmings and would not have been fired.

We know sara didn't actually receive 3 votes because either fintpops or talenpoe is lying about voting (kylebrawl is clear because people who voted for him were fired). This makes sense given that only those who voted for kyle were fired - those voting for sara couldnt have been fired since she received 2 votes, less than kyle's 3. Of course, sara remains clear because if she had been the boss, fintpops and talenpoe would not have been lying, she would have received 3/6 votes which counts as a majority, and the game would have ended.
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talanpoeAus


Posted: 08:04AM Aug 17, 2013

If lissi is actually an employee and voted without posting, the. Kyle is correct and Sara isn't cleared. If lissi didn't vote then Sara is clear and the only reason lissi would still be here is if she were Boss.

I was working under the (admittedly unproven) belief that lissi didn't vote. Lissi's argument that Sara is clear actually tends to make me suspect lissi less. The problem is that there are flaws in lissi's argument that i will address when im typing on something other than a cellphone.

meanwhe, I'm content to vote once more on Sara since I do know that Kyle is neither boss nor rat and therefore isn't deliberately trying to unscrew my head unlike *somebody* around here is. Changing my vote back to Sara.


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talanpoeAus


Posted: 08:39AM Aug 17, 2013

lissiclown wrote:
So I looked through my old games, and found one where in the final round, there were 6 employees, 1 boss, and 1 rat remaining. The boss received 3 votes and the game ended. Therefore, if sara was the boss, she would have been fired after receiving 3 votes out of 6 employees.
As I argued in the penultimate post last round, it is my belief that mandis change the voting terrain. Had there been one mandi among the employees, you would have 3 votes out of 5 rather than out of 6, so a majority would have been achieved. (Someday I'm going to get a band of intrepid heroes together to get an answer to that question.)
Additonally, if she were the boss, she would not have voted, leaving us with only 2 votes for kylebrawl. In that case, sciencesteven and dawnrising would not have been lemmings and would not have been fired.
Not quite accurate. If Sara were Boss and had more votes than anybody else (i.e., was "the candidate" under the rules), then she would avoid that status and pass it to the person with the second-most votes (Kyle); so sciencesteven and dawnrising would have still been lemmings and available for firing.


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SaraGracetus


Posted: 12:05PM Aug 17, 2013

Can we see a voting list of what everybody posted? I am sticking with my vote for Lissiclown.

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"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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iamsam4tus


Posted: 12:23PM Aug 17, 2013

Voting list:
talanpoe- saragrace
SaraGrace- lissiclown
lissiclown- talanpoe or fintpops
kylebrawl- saragrace


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SaraGracetus


Posted: 12:45PM Aug 17, 2013

Thanks mod!

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"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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KyleBrawl*us


Posted: 05:45PM Aug 17, 2013

Okay after some thought I am going to join sara in the vote for lissi. Here is my suspect list:

lissi
Talan
Sara
flint

The reason I suspect talan is hard to explain. More of gut feeling. I am thinking not sara as much because she is not trying to conceal herself. So I think that my original point about the boss being more experienced was right. If lissi is not the boss, I say talan next
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talanpoeAus


Posted: 06:18PM Aug 17, 2013

Switching my vote back to lissi then.

Unless life also hands you sugar and water, your lemonade is going to suck!
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 07:36PM Aug 17, 2013

Ah I didn't know about the boss not being able to be the candidate thing. So I guess sara is still on the potential boss list.

If you're suspecting the boss of being experienced, I'm not really the best option; this is only my 3rd game (well since 2010, but either it changed a bit or I forgot everything haha).
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SaraGracetus


Posted: 09:04PM Aug 17, 2013

How come Lissi hasn't been posting on who's the boss, but hasn't been inactive. That's what I want to know.

"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 07:49AM Aug 18, 2013

You also had a round where you didn't post
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talanpoeAus


Posted: 09:10AM Aug 18, 2013

Earlier, I wrote:
As I argued in the penultimate post last round, it is my belief that mandis change the voting terrain. Had there been one mandi among the employees, you would have 3 votes out of 5 rather than out of 6, so a majority would have been achieved. (Someday I'm going to get a band of intrepid heroes together to get an answer to that question.)
The test has been completed and my hypothesis is correct. Those who don't vote are NOT counted when calculating percentages.

In a round with 10 players including Boss & Rat (so 8 possible votes), 3 voted for Boss, 2 voted for somebody else, and 3 didn't vote at all. The question was whether the result would be 3/8 (not a majority) or 3/5 (a majority). The difference depended on how the program dealt with the three who didn't vote.

At round's end, it was indeed a majority and Boss was fired. The mandis did not show up as fired, so that makes it even harder to detect exactly what happened.

(And to answer a question from earlier in the game, the game ended immediately upon Boss's firing; nothing had to be done to start the next round.)


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talanpoeAus


Posted: 09:45AM Aug 18, 2013

So. With that knowledge, back to last round's voting list:
sciencesteven: kylebrawl (fired)
saragrace: kylebrawl
dawnrisng: kylebrawl (fired)

talanpoe: saragrace
kylebrawl: saragrace (cleared)
fintpops: saragrace

lissiclown:
Clearly neither sciencesteven nor dawnrising were Boss. Clearly kylebrawl is cleared. Lissi is still with us, so clearly she either voted or is Boss.

Case 1: Lissi is Boss.
Case 2: Lissi voted for Kyle/Sara is Boss.
Case 3: Lissi voted for Kyle/Fint or talan is Boss.
Case 4: Lissi voted for Sara/Sara is Boss.
Case 5: Lissi voted for Sara/Fint or talan is Boss.
Case 6: Lissi voted elsewhere/Sara is Boss.
Case 7: Lissi voted elsewhere/Fint or talan is Boss

Of the seven cases, only #4 is not possible (Sara would have received 4/6 votes and been fired).

Case 1 seems most likely to me given the postings/discussions in the various rounds; but that will be tested this round.


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SaraGracetus


Posted: 10:09AM Aug 18, 2013

Lissi who did you vote for last round?

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Fintpops*us


Posted: 10:25AM Aug 18, 2013

Sorry guys! I had to go on a trip, so I missed out on most of the round. I'm back now though!

Seems we may have wasted last round since we didn't get a real majority. I'm still somewhat suspicious of Sara but I think I'll do more help by joining the vote on lissiclown.
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talanpoeAus


Posted: 10:34AM Aug 18, 2013

SaraGrace wrote:
Lissi who did you vote for last round?
The rules don't permit lissi to answer that question, or even to confirm that she voted at all. Excerpt from the rules:
Voting

[....]

Players may only discuss who they will vote for during the current round. Once the voting deadline passes, players may not say who they voted for or whether they voted for who they said they would vote for. Any violations of this rule will put those players on the firing list for rule infractions.
(emphasis added)

Current voting list for this round:
fintpops - lissiclown
kylebrawl- lissiclown
SaraGrace- lissiclown
talanpoe- lissiclown


lissiclown- talanpoe or fintpops


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SaraGracetus


Posted: 11:12AM Aug 18, 2013

Oh sorry. Ok.

"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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SaraGracetus


Posted: 11:14AM Aug 18, 2013

Um how many rounds do we have left?

"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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lissiclownAus


Posted: 11:29AM Aug 18, 2013

I think just one more round after this?
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talanpoeAus


Posted: 11:30AM Aug 18, 2013

We're down to 5 and Rat is gone, so Boss can only fire one person at a time. If we don't get Boss and there are no mandis, then there are at most 2 rounds after this one.

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iamsam4tus


Posted: 12:18PM Aug 18, 2013

KyleBrawl wrote:
Okay after some thought I am going to join sara in the vote for lissi. Here is my suspect list:

lissi
Talan
Sara
flint

The reason I suspect talan is hard to explain. More of gut feeling. I am thinking not sara as much because she is not trying to conceal herself. So I think that my original point about the boss being more experienced was right. If lissi is not the boss, I say talan next

It is fintpops, not Flintpops.
Didn't we already go over this?


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SaraGracetus


Posted: 04:53PM Aug 18, 2013

we did that's funny. We need to consider our options.

"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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talanpoeAus


Posted: 05:44PM Aug 18, 2013

SaraGrace wrote:
we did that's funny. We need to consider our options.
34 minutes left this round. If Lissi turns out to be an employee, we'll see who's left in the morning and figure out where we go from there.


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SaraGracetus


Posted: 05:52PM Aug 18, 2013

Ok! Now who ever is the boss please come don't leave the round in about to end!

"I am on a roller coaster that only goes up my friends." -Augustus Water (TFIOS)
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iamsam4tus


Posted: 06:51AM Aug 19, 2013

Final voting list: (made from comments)
Saragrace- lissiclown
talanpoe- lissiclown
lissiclown- talanpoe or fintpops
kylebrawl- lissiclown
fintpops- lissiclown


Edited to delete the sad face that I accidentally made, somehow...


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Fintpops*us


Posted: 10:28AM Aug 19, 2013

iamsam4 wrote:
Didn't we already go over this?
TY sam! I guess people's brains want to make "fint" say something they recognize as a real word, so they jump to "flint." I suppose I'll just have to get used to it.

Edit b/c the color from sam's post didn't work at first.


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