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Who's the Boss Game #3080

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 8 rounds.

Discussion of Round #4

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snowmonsterAus


Posted: 07:34PM May 25, 2014

Welcome to Round 4!!!

Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love. In loving memory of my dear friend Guy - take care Goobs . .
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scrub88it


Posted: 07:57PM May 25, 2014

So HABS is clear as the boss. I don't understand what LR was trying to say. So now we don't want her in majorities, right?

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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:35PM May 25, 2014

You only win if you vote for the boss. As I play to win, if a majority is forming on a player I feel is likely the boss, I will join it, otherwise, I will refrain.
Game is on, will check back during the next intermission.


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:09AM May 26, 2014

Wow, where is everyone? I posted the previous comment at 930(ish) last night - is now about 6am, and there have been no comments or discussion. That is 8.5 hrs with no one playing... the boss will never be found like that!

Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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scrub88it


Posted: 07:02AM May 26, 2014

good morning HABS. I guess everyone else is waiting. LR has logged on today, and the ladies not yet.
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Days


Posted: 07:08AM May 26, 2014

Sorry habs it's memorial day weekend in the USA. I'm going to put a vote on froggy, seeing as I'm not sure when I'll be on later.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 08:56AM May 26, 2014

scrub88 wrote:
good morning HABS. I guess everyone else is waiting....


Waiting for what? A personal invitation to contribute? We need input from everyone to

Days, Froggy, and LR you are cordially invited to participate in this round of the game and assist in firing the boss.
RSVP: regrets only.

Is that better??


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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froggyggAus


Posted: 09:33AM May 26, 2014

I wasn't waiting, but I've been busy. That said, here I am.

As for Habs being cleared, Stewie could have been her Rat since she received most of the votes - but not enough to fire since the Rat stated a vote for her - if Stewie was the Rat. Still, Habs is like me - I try not to lie in games - well, I will stretch the truth if I can in order to protect myself.

No stretch and no lie - I really am NOT the Boss or the Rat in this game.

Now, I have no idea who our Boss is so I'm going to try to do a bit of searching on site. Will vote before round ends.


SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
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LogicalRogerAus


Posted: 11:15AM May 26, 2014

I was gone for most of yesterday. So yeah, busy. I did check back in and voted but didn't have time to contribute in the discussion. But when I last checked there were only two or three posts with little reason to jump in anyways. But with only 8 hours left, I'm here.

Okay, so Froggy has a vote on her. I wish I had a better feel for the boss (or the rat for that matter) but if we wanted to we could try and get a majority on her? I'll change my vote to Froggy unless there is a better candidate to choose from [pun intended].

As for Habs being cleared, Stewie could have been her Rat since she received most of the votes - but not enough to fire since the Rat stated a vote for her - if Stewie was the Rat. Still, Habs is like me - I try not to lie in games - well, I will stretch the truth if I can in order to protect myself.
I've already explained that (though, admittedly, possibly not in the best way). As far as I know, even if Stewie had been rat, we should still have had the majority of employees (three) vote for HABS. If HABS was boss she should have been fired. The only other option is if an employee or two lied, but if we go down that route, where can we stop?

Also, I don't know what the deal is with people saying they don't lie in these games. The whole idea of the game is to lie! Or at the very least, to almost lie by avoiding suspicion, by avoiding confrontation and accusing others. A boss who doesn't lie when asked if they were the boss would be fired in an instant. (Unless you lot want to go around asking who is boss and see which one of us says "I am" ). Since I don't expect the boss to do anything but lie, cheat and steal to win (besides being truthful in the psych question), I take no clout from someone saying they don't lie in the day rounds.

Besides being opposed to the two companies stated in the psych [who isn't?] that gives us little.

Anyways, if any of you guys get a good hunch, please inform us. We're on the last of our fuel right now and I want another clear if possible.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 11:31AM May 26, 2014

LogicalRoger wrote:
The whole idea of the game is to lie! Or at the very least, to almost lie

I respectfully disagree. The point is to avoid suspicion, which can be done by being completely honest in your statements and claims. I find it more of a challenge to make a statement that is true in its core but can be misconstrued and misinterpreted by the other players. That is me, I have no problem with those who tell full blown falsehoods. We all have our own style of play.


A boss who doesn't lie when asked if they were the boss would be fired in an instant

Which is why I said this is the only time I will lie, in response to that question.

Anyways, if any of you guys get a good hunch, please inform us. .

My hunch is you actually, has been for a couple rounds.

We're on the last of our fuel right now and I want another clear if possible

I say you should be that clear then! Voting LR to hopefully clear him.


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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froggyggAus


Posted: 12:01PM May 26, 2014

Actually, I have also had my suspicions of LR as well but didn't voice it since it was just a feeling. I spent quite a while earlier going through forum posts and comments to get a feel for the writing style of each of those players remaining since our Boss appears to be very articulate and well written, but didn't come up with much.

Since we are down to the wire and I have nothing more to go on, I'm going to join Habs in a vote for LR.

Have a great Memorial Day everyone!


SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 12:39PM May 26, 2014

Just under 7 hours left (6hrs 53minutes):

froggygg LR
HABS2933 LR

Days
LogicalRoger
scrub88


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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LogicalRogerAus


Posted: 01:26PM May 26, 2014

I always hate having a majority on me because it seems a waste. Sure clearing me will help you lot out, but it gives me nothing new. Whatever. Waste a round if you like. If you guys knew me better you'd probably know that the first three psych questions aren't even close to me, but do as you please.

If you lot plan on getting a vote for me, I might as well change my vote to Days, so as to not be in a majority. The only good thing of being an employee being cleared is that there shouldn't be a way to be fired. [Assuming there's an actual majority, of course.]

froggygg - LR
HABS2933 - LR


Days - Froggy
LogicalRoger - Days
scrub88 - Days


Actually, if there is a way that both me and HABS could stay out of the majority, that would be great. Seeing as how it's almost impossible for HABS to be boss, I really wouldn't want her getting fired over a simple clear. HABS you said you'd join a majority if you thought it meant getting the boss. Well, this time I'd like you to avoid it, if possible, so that we don't gain a clear and lose a clear.

Damn. I'm not sure if we can have a boss-proof, rat-proof clear without her, though. Now I really don't like this clear. I'd prefer people vote to clear someone else.


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 02:14PM May 26, 2014

LogicalRoger wrote:
I always hate having a majority on me because it seems a waste....Waste a round if you like. ...

This screams "Boss" to me By this logic getting a majority on anybody but the boss is a waste of a round. The majority on me told me nothing new, but I welcomed the votes to clear myself and help find the boss.


f you guys knew me better you'd probably know that the first three psych questions aren't even close to me

It's hard to get to know someone who admits to being "less than honest" in what they say in the game (not talking about psych answers here). It calls into question anything that has ever been said. What part of what you've divulged in a game is true and how much is fabricated?


Actually, if there is a way that both me and HABS could stay out of the majority, that would be great.

Yeah .... that'd be handy for you wouldn't it? Without my vote, there is no clear cut majority, and therefore you survive another round. Besides, given that, a smart boss would not fire me to make it look like you are in fact the boss and just didn't get enough votes.

HABS you said you'd join a majority if you thought it meant getting the boss.

And I do think this majority is sound (let us not forget, I placed the first vote in said majority).

Well, this time I'd like you to avoid it, if possible, so that we don't gain a clear and lose a clear.

OR ..... your concern is not with me being fired, but with the pink slip being handed to you.

Now I really don't like this clear. I'd prefer people vote to clear someone else.


Why not? What difference does it make who we clear? The ONLY player who would not want to be cleared would be the boss.

And..... like I said I play to win. I can't win unless I vote for the boss (you).

Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.
If winning doesn't matter, why keep score?
2nd place is nothing more than the first loser
Whoever said "winning isn't important, obviously lost.
There may be no "I" in team, but there is one in WIN!
Winning may not be everything, but it sure beats the hell out of losing .
It does not matter how many you've played, what matters is how many you have won


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Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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LogicalRogerAus


Posted: 03:59PM May 26, 2014

Why not? What difference does it make who we clear? The ONLY player who would not want to be cleared would be the boss.
Or an employee who knows he's an employee and doesn't want to waste a cleared player on an obvious (to himself) cleared player. Sure, what you've said might be true, HABS, but is what I'm saying incorrect? I don't see how I am any more like a boss than Days or Froggy. You may think I'm more suspicious, but in this game the most suspicious player does NOT have to be boss. Heck, if the boss was suspicious, they'd be a bad player. It's possible, but this isn't my style. I lie low. I'm more inactive than usual. I know what I'm saying will be interpreted as being bossy, but what else am I supposed to do? At least I can try and change your mind.

And the whole "lying" thing: cheap shot. I don't lie when I'm an employee. I face the reality that many bosses lie in the day rounds. Doesn't mean everything I'm saying is a lie. As an employee I don't lie. There's no point.

Anyways. All I see is the boss is quietly slinking away and letting two employees argue with themselves. If you get yourselves fired HABS, don't say I didn't warn you. Just don't waste two rounds on me. If you're clearing me, clear me now and vote for the real boss next round. Actually, if Scrub is a mandie does that mean no one gets fired even if we get a majority? Geez. This game can be really frustrating.
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scrub88it


Posted: 04:07PM May 26, 2014

I am really struggling here. I am truly confused by LR's analysis. We don't win this game without some assumptions. I am playing with HABS being clear. I think we have to really look at Days or Frogygg as a candidate for the boss. Since Days is voting Frogygg and Frogygg is voting LR, I think I have found the boss. I am voting Days too.

I just posted without reading LR's last post. I may change to LR yet. I have one more read left before I go to a party tonight. I hope you guys are both here in the next thirty minutes.


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LogicalRogerAus


Posted: 04:11PM May 26, 2014

Well I'm not sure why you think Days is the boss, Scrub, but if we could get Days fired/cleared I think it would help us a lot more than clearing me, personally. I have nothing besides hunches to direct me to changing my vote right now.

Ugh. Do what you like. You only have yourself to blame.


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Days


Posted: 04:45PM May 26, 2014

Sorry guys holidays mean I'm busy. And for once I'm not lieing about being boss this time either. I truly never heard of BareNaked Ladies until the boss posted the memo last round. Clearing me is fine and I'm staying with my froggy vote. But if I'm cleared and not fired, that can give us a good cause to look at who I vote for.

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scrub88it


Posted: 04:50PM May 26, 2014

I am staying with Days. Call my logic simple, out of her and Frogygg she voted frogygg while Frogygg voted LR. It only makes sense that she is the boss voting for the rat. She is staying out of the voting.
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scrub88it


Posted: 04:54PM May 26, 2014

another simultaneous post. gotta go. i am changing to lr and am locked in.
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scrub88it


Posted: 06:22PM May 26, 2014

I am changing my vote for the last time. Going with my gut and voting Days.
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LogicalRogerAus


Posted: 07:09PM May 26, 2014

The way things are going there won't be anything conclusive. Even changing my vote won't do anything so I guess I'll just have to wait and see. Even if one of the players in either majority is fired, the possible candidate could still be a boss firing a rat. Well, in case no one is fired, we would at least have an entire round to try and choose a single person to get a majority on.

I do wish that we could know if the rat was still with us. It would at least help a bit.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:13PM May 26, 2014

LogicalRoger wrote:
I do wish that we could know if the rat was still with us. It would at least help a bit.


This has been put to numerous polls and the majority of players don't want to know.


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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LogicalRogerAus


Posted: 07:23PM May 26, 2014

That seems strange to me, but whatever. I definitely prefer the games where I know when the rat has been eliminated.

It's a bit pointless with only three votes, but care to help try and clear Days, HABS? It'd be closer to a clear at least. [Obviously it makes no sense for me to vote for myself]. Or at the least, you might want to get out a majority while you still can. If it won't help us, there's no reason to lose a cleared player.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:36PM May 26, 2014

If I am the only one voting for X (can't say who I voted for after voting closes) and everyone else is voting for Y then it does not matter who X is - boss or not. I can't be fired for being the only one to vote for any player.

As to the rat thing, unless you are also told who the rat was - it really makes no difference. And being told who the rat was - sort of gives the players an unfair advantage. Statistically, the boss has only won 28% of the game ever played. The employees don't need any more favours.


Vas-y les Habs! J'y crois!
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scrub88it


Posted: 07:01AM May 27, 2014

Since we are in a pause momentarily, days and I both died overnight in werewolf.
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