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Who's the Boss Game #635

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Voting / Memo Discussion
This game finished in 3 rounds.

Discussion of Round #2

Round: 0  1  2  3  

AuthorMessage
TRILLIONAIRE*us


Posted: 08:58PM Apr 15, 2008

Alliances: Round 2

Purple Team

Jervis
Ltblupngn
Smithy


Blue Team
J279
Sazza_7
Guamgirl


Red Team
Writer_fighter
Harmony_Girl
Gizzer


Green Team
Scubee
Sweetmama
ppjones


* Players are reminded to please post using your team color throughout this round.
Thanks!

Just a reminder that I randomly picked the alliances.


Question for Round 2:

Solve the following equation (from left to right, ignoring the order of operations):

(Amount of "air" in the modern a current Top-40 song by a previous American Idol winner) - (Number of letters in the name of Africa's most populated country) x (Number of Pilars of Islam) - (Number of sons Jacob [aka Israel] had)

Find the absolute value of that number and add 2.


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Gizzer


Posted: 09:13PM Apr 15, 2008

Hmmpfh! I was off-line!

0-7x5-12 = -47
47+2 =49
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Gizzer


Posted: 09:14PM Apr 15, 2008

Oh, sure, delete your taunt!

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TRILLIONAIRE*us


Posted: 09:15PM Apr 15, 2008

Congrats again!


For those who weren't online, and didn't see my post I accidentally deleted:
Wow, it's been 5 minutes and Gizzer hasn't posted the answer yet.


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TRILLIONAIRE*us


Posted: 09:15PM Apr 15, 2008

Simulposts!

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Gizzer


Posted: 09:21PM Apr 15, 2008

TRILLIONAIRE wrote:
Congrats again!



Not to assume anything, but I would sure like to see an official statement about immunity....
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guamgirl


Posted: 09:25PM Apr 15, 2008

Not sure who to vote for. Hmm.. I need to think about this one.
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Gizzer


Posted: 09:32PM Apr 15, 2008

I was not surprised to see that SpanshDST was fired, as she has not been on-line in 2 days. I knew she wasn't the Boss because of that, as well. Ditto on SAZZA.

Liger was a bit of a surprise, because she had posted early in the round. Perhaps she forgot to vote, or maybe she silently voted for Scubee as well.

Orcasman was apparently selected from the Scubee majority. It's possible he didn't vote either, but I think it's safe to say that Scubee, with 10 stated votes, is cleared. It would take several people lying about their votes for Scubee to have survived if he is the Boss, and I prefer to believe that most people will be honest, and understand the importance of that in order to catch the Boss.

The biggest surprise for me was that Writer_fighter wasn't fired. With no post at all in the Round, and not having logged in today before the round ended, I was prepared for him to be a mandatory firing. He goes to the top of my radar.
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SAZZA_7*au


Posted: 10:27PM Apr 15, 2008

WELL GOOD POINT ME TOO!

P.S BLUE AGAIN...


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j279Aus


Posted: 11:06PM Apr 15, 2008

Gizzer wrote:
The biggest surprise for me was that Writer_fighter wasn't fired. With no post at all in the Round, and not having logged in today before the round ended, I was prepared for him to be a mandatory firing. He goes to the top of my radar.

I agree Gizzer. I'm going to hold off on voting for now. It's late here and I'm off to bed. I hope to be on in the morning. I'll definately be on again before the round ends, though. Good night, all!


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jervisAau


Posted: 05:34AM Apr 16, 2008

well it is probable that writer was not the boss but maybe the rat.
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jervisAau


Posted: 05:36AM Apr 16, 2008

I am going to go with gizzer this round, again I feel she should be given the chance to be cleared!
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ScubeeAus


Posted: 07:16AM Apr 16, 2008

The reference to history immediately made me think of Gizzer but probably because of the recent Carmen game.

Trying to shake that thought, I looked over the names again and Smithy caught my attention. I think we've played a few games (WW or WTB) together. I can't put my finger on the "why" though. I looked back and couldn't find anything in the games, but I did find in the forums where he had been reading Hawking's "A Brief History of Time.


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What would Scooby Doo?
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Harmony_GirlAus


Posted: 07:26AM Apr 16, 2008

This round I'll fish for guamgirl. No offence, you rock and all, but I just thought it would work.
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Writer_fighterAus


Posted: 07:29AM Apr 16, 2008

sorry people that I did not get the chance to say anything last round, I have been really sick and been in the hospital for pretty much every hour. I was able to hop on for a few minutes to get to vote, but alas, I couldnt muster up the strength to say anything. (perhaps Im a little too shy for this game... If you look at pretty much every game the I have played in I dont think I have ever said a word...) Hopefully I will get better soon and have a little more time to chat with ya'll.

As for my vote... I will be on later to see what the voting looks like to make a better judgement my vote.

EDIT: changed color to red


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ScubeeAus


Posted: 08:08AM Apr 16, 2008

writer_fighter, I'm not doubting your sickness and certainly don't mean to sound insincere, but what exactly does "been in the hospital for pretty much every hour"mean? The last game we played together (several weeks ago), you said you couldn't post because you had been sick. I'm just trying to make sure the boss isn't calling in sick.

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What would Scooby Doo?
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Writer_fighterAus


Posted: 08:15AM Apr 16, 2008

I have been sick for a long while and the doctors cannot quite figure out what the problem is. So almost every waking minute I am in a different hospital trying to find out whats been wrong. But fnow im in line for like 3 surgeries. So please forgive me in my times of not posting, as most times I have been not able to get on a computer.
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ScubeeAus


Posted: 08:17AM Apr 16, 2008

I'm very sorry to hear that writer. I do hope they find out something soon. Again, please don't think me insincere for asking.

What would Scooby Doo?
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jervisAau


Posted: 08:30AM Apr 16, 2008

Well i will change my vote to writer_fighter. I think that he is either the rat or the boss and willing to find out.
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ppjonesAus


Posted: 08:53AM Apr 16, 2008

Well here is a suggestion on a strategy we could use:

The red team has immunity. They should all vote for one person forming a majority. The rest of us will vote for players not on the red team and will not form majorities. This will create three scenarios:

(1) The red team guesses correctly and all vote for the boss. That will put us on the firing list and 2 or 3 people will be fired.
(2) If the red team is wrong, the will be lemmings and show up on the fire list. But they have immunity, so the boss can not fire them and everyone will be safe that round.
(3) The only monkey wrench in this theory is if Gizzer Group (only because she keeps winning immunity) had the rat and the boss in it. Then we would have a moo vote (majority of one vote) were everyone will show up on the firing list.

Even if (1) or (3) happen, we could easily narrow the suspects down to the immunity group and the person they voted for. Take a look and let me know, there is still 12 hours left, so I think we have some time if everyone buys in on this plan.


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The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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Smithy*en


Posted: 09:19AM Apr 16, 2008

Scubee wrote:
Trying to shake that thought, I looked over the names again and Smithy caught my attention. I think we've played a few games (WW or WTB) together. I can't put my finger on the "why" though. I looked back and couldn't find anything in the games, but I did find in the forums where he had been reading Hawking's "A Brief History of Time.


Wow you've certainly done some research! It's true I did recently read Hawking, but it's a physics book as opposed to history. I am definitely more of a science & math geek than a history buff Also, you must be thinking of somebody else asI have only played 1 previous game each of WW and WTB and you were not in either...of course I am not opposed to having my name cleared so early on!

Trill, I actually remembered to post in my colour this time


"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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ScubeeAus


Posted: 10:00AM Apr 16, 2008

Following ppjones' line of thinking, I wanted to be sure of #1. If all three on the immune team vote correctly for the boss and the rest of us vote in pairs, the boss wouldn't get 50% so he couldn't be fired and the ones voting in pairs would all be considered lemmings? Is that correct?

What would Scooby Doo?
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jervisAau


Posted: 11:18AM Apr 16, 2008

i do like the strategy ppjones, but I am concerned as 2 of my top 3 suspects are in the red grouping! And we have to be careful about the rat and the boss mucking up the votes (as well as consider inactive votes... or active non-votes)
I am willing to try it though... but it will need commitment from most people. And more than likely it will definitely work to our advantage as if the immunity group doesn't get the boss right, they are the lemmings and cant get fired. So we could do this each round!!

Can I suggest to the red group to perhaps vote for ppjones this round? That should both clear his name and keep everyone here.
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ppjonesAus


Posted: 11:23AM Apr 16, 2008

Regardless of voting in pairs or singles, if the three in the immunity group vote for the boss, then we will all show up on the firing list. The only way to limit the firing list is if two people in the non-immunity group created another but smaller majority.

EDIT: I am fine with the red group voting for me, that will definitely clear my name and we would keep everyone safe this round. It will be a good test, but the immunity group needs to be on board with this.


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The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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ppjonesAus


Posted: 11:38AM Apr 16, 2008

Sorry for the double post. Not a lot of people have voted yet, so here is the plan. Don't take this as me being bossy, just a strategy I thought might work.

Green Team votes for someone in the Purple Team,
Purple Team votes for someone in the Blue Team,
Blue Team votes for someone in the Red Team,
Red Team votes for ME.

Unless Trill doesn't agree with how we are circumventing the rules..we will see.


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The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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j279Aus


Posted: 11:50AM Apr 16, 2008

I'm willing to go with what's been said, as long as other people will do the same.
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Gizzer


Posted: 12:22PM Apr 16, 2008

Uh-uh. I see no reason at this point to clear ppjones. If I am to vote so as to clear someone, it should be someone I consider a prime suspect, not some random person picked by someone who has twice said I deserved to be cleared, but then won't follow through with that plan.

There are only 2 ways to clear someone:

1) a massive majority vote for someone will clear that player if the game continues;
2) having people fired for voting for someone will clear that player

I don't see how this plan achieves either objective. If the Red Team forms the only majority (of 3 - if the Boss and Rat aren't on the team), then no one can be fired (assuming the Red Team has immunity, which has yet to be officially confirmed!) unless we happen to vote for the Boss (All the more reason to vote for an actual suspect, instead of a random pick.) Even then, the Boss could simply not fire anyone, and we learn nothing! Therefore, no one can be cleared and the round is wasted.

However, if the entire Green Team votes for the same person on the Purple Team, and so on, then I will go along with the plan.
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ppjonesAus


Posted: 01:01PM Apr 16, 2008

Sorry, I don't agree with you Giz.

If the entire red team, which has immunity, voted for someone who is not the boss, they would show up on the bosses firing list. They can not be fired and everyone would survive the round.

This would clear the person they voted for. Not sure why you won't go along?


The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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Gizzer


Posted: 01:09PM Apr 16, 2008

There is no way to tell the difference between the Boss not being allowed to fire the Red Team if they are the only ones on the firing list, or choosing not to fire someone else, if the Red Team happens to vote for the Boss and other people are on the firing list instead. If no one is fired, no one is cleared unless the majority is more than 50%. The Red Team does not have the numbers to clear anyone.
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TRILLIONAIRE*us


Posted: 01:34PM Apr 16, 2008

Sorry I forgot to post this earlier...

Red Team holds immunity for this round. The boss is not permitted to fire (unless they are on the mandatory list for not voting):
Writer_fighter
Harmony_Girl
Gizzer


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ppjonesAus


Posted: 01:51PM Apr 16, 2008

I understand that gizzer, but the boss may not have. The only way to foil this strategy is for the boss to not fire anyone, but I didn't want to provide them that information. But now that its public, I guess the strategy is out the window.

The fact that you mentioned this is either an "oops", your the boss, or you are helping the boss.

I am voting for Gizzer.


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The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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TRILLIONAIRE*us


Posted: 02:03PM Apr 16, 2008

ppjones wrote:
Unless Trill doesn't agree with how we are circumventing the rules..we will see.
You know the saying; All's fair in WTB and TWG.


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Gizzer


Posted: 02:06PM Apr 16, 2008

I do not buy your story, ppjones. That subterfuge would only work if the Red Team voted for the Boss. If you are not the Boss, then no one could be fired, so the Boss would not have the option to trip himself up by firing someone else.

And certainly, you would know that I would not let you get away with saying you are cleared by a mere 3 votes if no one is fired.
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Gizzer


Posted: 02:26PM Apr 16, 2008

Voting List moved

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ScubeeAus


Posted: 03:07PM Apr 16, 2008

Well, I'm a bit torn but I'm going to go with my green partner here and vote Gizzer.

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ppjonesAus


Posted: 03:12PM Apr 16, 2008

I know you don't mean it the way it sounds, but to think I would set up some elaborate scheme to clear myself as boss? I prefer to play an in your face game as boss, not to hide with trickery and lies.

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The reason Gumby isn't smiling is because Deb is keeping him captive against his will.
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sweetmamaAus


Posted: 04:34PM Apr 16, 2008

D'oh, I need to adjust my Braingle schedule so I can get a shot at a trivia question.

Scubee wrote:
Trying to shake that thought, I looked over the names again and Smithy caught my attention. I think we've played a few games (WW or WTB) together. I can't put my finger on the "why" though. I looked back and couldn't find anything in the games, but I did find in the forums where he had been reading Hawking's "A Brief History of Time.


That is a pretty good find Scubee, great detective work! I'm going to go with my team too and vote Giz as well.


(_.·´¯ ۞ ‾\(º_o)/‾ ۞ ¯`·._)
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j279Aus


Posted: 05:15PM Apr 16, 2008

I'm voting for Gizzer.
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guamgirl


Posted: 05:23PM Apr 16, 2008

Voting for Gizzer.
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ltblupngn*


Posted: 06:09PM Apr 16, 2008

trill-- if we get a majority vote for someone who happens to be the boss, how would it work if they had the immunity?

for now, i will put in a random vote for myself, ltblupngn. i honestly do not think Gizzer is the boss because i have played (and modded) games with her before. she is not acting differently at all which gives me no reason to suspect her.

edit: color and bold vote


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"Fall down again Bella?" "No Emmet, I punched a werewolf in the face."
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ScubeeAus


Posted: 07:22PM Apr 16, 2008

ltblupngn sounded rattish in that last post. Voting for yourself does nothing to help us clear anyone.

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Gizzer


Posted: 07:28PM Apr 16, 2008

Scubee wrote:
ltblupngn sounded rattish in that last post. Voting for yourself does nothing to help us clear anyone.


Please, you just think she is the Rat because she has defended me. Correctly, I might add.

In a situation where there is no majority, and the Boss can fire someone who votes for themselves without revealing information to the remaining players, that statement would be correct, Scubee.

However, that is not the current situation. There are 5 votes for me, so it hardly matters how penguin votes, the majority is clear.

It is enough to know that penguin has voted, and for whom. Thanks for that penguin, and for the support, although it is not likely to sway anyone.
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ScubeeAus


Posted: 07:36PM Apr 16, 2008

It's all in fun. This game has seemed to get a bit snippish.

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Gizzer


Posted: 07:40PM Apr 16, 2008

Meaning you think I have gotten snippish...
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Smithy*en


Posted: 08:53PM Apr 16, 2008

I'm sorry, you guys have got me completely lost on the strategy of this game! As there is only 5 minutes left and I need to make a quick decision, I will eschew all stragery and vote for sweetmama because it might well be her.

I'm sorry, that isn't very helpful, but my head hurts after reading that whole conversation and I can't make sense of much of it!


"They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with cheese?" "No man, they got the metric system. The wouldn't know what a Quarter Pounder is."
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Gizzer


Posted: 08:58PM Apr 16, 2008

Voting List: at end of voting for round 2


Jervis ---------------Writer_fighter
Ltblupngn -----------ltblupngn
Smithy---------------sweetmama



J279 -----------------Gizzer
Sazza_7
Guamgirl-------------Gizzer



Writer_fighter
Harmony_Girl -------guamgirl
Gizzer ----------------jervis



Scubee ---------------Gizzer
Sweetmama ---------Gizzer
ppjones --------------Gizzer


Thank you to everyone who declared their vote.
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TRILLIONAIRE*us


Posted: 09:43PM Apr 16, 2008

ltblupngn wrote:
trill-- if we get a majority vote for someone who happens to be the boss, how would it work if they had the immunity?
If the boss has immunity, and they get the majority vote, they will be fired. There's no way to bypass the system's reaction to automatically fire the boss once they get the majority.


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sweetmamaAus


Posted: 10:00PM Apr 16, 2008

I think I want to change my vote! I feel uncomfortable being in the majority. Especially when we don't have any solid reason to be voting for Giz. Sorry team, I'm fishing for Sazza_7.

(_.·´¯ ۞ ‾\(º_o)/‾ ۞ ¯`·._)
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TRILLIONAIRE*us


Posted: 10:27PM Apr 16, 2008

Voting has ended.

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jervisAau


Posted: 08:42AM Apr 17, 2008

oh dear, I was away practically the whole round after I voted. Interesting to see the interaction. I would be surprised if gizzer wasn't the boss after that. (gizzer, you and writer are up there on my list! LOL)
Well I hope for my sake that gizzer wasn't the boss else I am a MOO!!! and I dont want to be fired! Maybe we have 2 inactives this round....???? who knows!
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ltblupngn*


Posted: 02:43PM Apr 17, 2008

TRILLIONAIRE wrote:
ltblupngn wrote:
trill-- if we get a majority vote for someone who happens to be the boss, how would it work if they had the immunity?
If the boss has immunity, and they get the majority vote, they will be fired. There's no way to bypass the system's reaction to automatically fire the boss once they get the majority.


thats what i thought but i wasnt sure... thanks!


"Fall down again Bella?" "No Emmet, I punched a werewolf in the face."
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ltblupngn*


Posted: 08:25PM Apr 17, 2008

i just wanted to let everyone know i might not have internet access from friday to monday afternoon. sorry if i am fired!!

"Fall down again Bella?" "No Emmet, I punched a werewolf in the face."
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