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| Posted by Mysterious | 03/13/05 |
| The clues for this teaser were in the car inventory. The majority of people know that anyone carrying a prescription Epi Pen is deathly allergic to one or many things. An allergy to nuts is one of most frequent causes of severe allergic reactions. Further clues were the Benadryl and the notes from the allergy seminar she had just attended. Also, Elidel is used to treat Eczema and the majority of patients with that disorder also have allergies. Also, nuts are in cookies the majority of the time. Lastly, Fran obviosly hated her from the phone message; and Fran would have known about the allergy since she knew Rachel for so long. :) :) |
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| Posted by super_duper08 | 03/14/05 |
| i agree there is nothing about nuts and i don't eat cookies or brownies or fudge with nuts cus i don't like it and how did she not SEE the nuts?? hmm?? |
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| Posted by sexyxxl05 | 03/14/05 |
| Good one! Kinda long, but still a good one! :D :D :D :D |
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| Posted by ROCKhead | 03/15/05 |
| what the? it never said anything about nuts! epi pens are also used for bee stings... so how could you have known? and what about the OTHER docter... he had a motive to. :-? |
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| Posted by Mysterious | 03/15/05 |
| This teaser is a mystery. In a good mystery, you are never just given the answer. You must think and figure it out for yourself.
The presence of nuts is a given in a gourmet bakery. It would have been redundant to tell you about the possibility of nuts or nut residue in the cookies. Check a package of plain M&Ms and you will find that their is a warning that the candy may contain peanuts!!
People carry Epi Pens for lots of reasons including such allergies as those to latex, sulfur, and tons of others. Some people are so allergic that they can simply be in the same room with an allergin and they go into respiratory difficulty.
The only suspect that had something tangible and potentially deadly in the car inventory was Fran. The good Dr. Greer had motive but a phone message never killed anyone. :D |
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| Posted by xx_werecat_xx | 03/16/05 |
| Hoes any one know wat a anyphysithingy is? I know I sure didnt! I mean come on, I figured poisened cookies but nots? COME ON! :o |
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| Posted by xx_werecat_xx | 03/16/05 |
| *sorry* im not in typing mood today, you can figure out wat that was supposed to say....right? |
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| Posted by aardvark | 03/17/05 |
| How could the cause of death be head hitting the dash if she died of anaphylatic shock? Anaphylactic shock would cause a swelling of the lips, tongue and eyes noticeable to the coroner, also there would be no severe edema at the forehead from impact if there was no blood flow during the crash as she was already dead, ergo, no heartbeat to pump blood. |
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| Posted by swithie | 03/17/05 |
| Either you don;t like this person or are just sour that it took you AGES to work out. I thought it was an excellent teaser :D |
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| Posted by dbeattie | 03/18/05 |
| That was a great teaser. I thought it had to do with the Epi Pen, however, I didn't know what an Epi Pen was. Do now! |
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| Posted by r3lish | 03/19/05 |
| boo for me :cry: i didnt know what epi pen was.. oh well |
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| Posted by runscapekiller | 03/19/05 |
| i have 2 read all that!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: |
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| Posted by freezequeen | 03/20/05 |
| Way long!!!!!!!!!! :o Quite good
though. :lol: :P :wink: :D |
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| Posted by Iamthedude54321 | 03/22/05 |
| Yay. I got it right! It was hard though. |
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| Posted by sassygirl101 | 03/23/05 |
| stupid :lol: :D |
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| Posted by whaleycm | 03/28/05 |
| Kimmy 3771 hit it on the head. If she had some major allergic reaction, why were there no signs and wouldnt that have killed her instead of the steering wheel. The lack of information about the nuts was a major piece of information left out. If you would have just said something like, "Chocolate Chunk Cookies with Nuts, i would have considered this a great riddle. |
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| Posted by Mysterious | 03/28/05 |
| Hi. To answer your comments, I am offering a response and further explanation. Anytime something is mentioned more than once in a mystery, one must consider it very important and pay attention to it. The Epi Pen was mentioned twice meaning it was very important. If you didn't know what it was, you could have done an internet search to find out. Combined with that information and the information about Fran, enough clues were provided to solve this mystery. Also, when someone has a deadly allergic reaction, the swelling can be internal in the airways and not affect physical appearance. A coroner's report would have made the teaser even longer and in my opinion very boring. Thanks for reading and when solving a mystery please pay attention to even the smallest clue. :D |
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| Posted by swimmer4life292 | 03/28/05 |
| man yall people need to shut up talkin bad about da teaser! i thougth it was awesome! and yall h8ers ruinded it!! the answer isnt s'posed to be obvious, geniuses!!!!!!! DUH! :x :evil: :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: :x :evil: WHATEVER!!! :roll: |
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| Posted by willymapo | 03/28/05 |
| I recall a tv show called CSI :roll:
In that Show, all the investigators are well informed of each chemical thing with those doctorish names and always know about and where in the domestic area is used. Good to watch, but using only logic you are not able to solve any riddle! :o
So, I propose it to the trivia section :D |
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| Posted by froggygg | 04/02/05 |
| I figured out that she died from an allergic reaction to something due to the presence of Epi Pens in purse and trunk, the Elidel and Benadryl. Since she was eating the cookies in the car, I also figured out that the cookies contained an ingredient of some kind that caused the reaction. Fran still harbored ill feelings against her (i.e. phone message) and the cookies came from Fran. Also Fran's remark "I made them just for you" told me they contained something they shouldn't have. I also figured out that the new detectives being called in were homicide - therefore she was murdered. Fran did it. But, the nuts completely flew right by me. Very good teaser.
:D :D :D |
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| Posted by vikingboy | 04/09/05 |
| Two things.
First, being a doctor, she would have known how to spot the symptoms of shock and could have easily pulled over to give herself the shot.
Second, a Viper, being a fairly new car, should have had air bags. Since a deployed air bag is not listed by the detectives, I think her car mechanic had something to do with it!!! |
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| Posted by shandela | 04/26/05 |
| This is almost on the verge of being a Situation puzzle. Or could be with less details in the actual teaser itself. But the fact that she carried an epi-pen in her purse made it clear she had allergies. and the fact that the tin was open made clear that she had to have been eating them recently. otherwise they would have melted in the "scorching sun". with any kind of experience with mystery puzzles, the answer is obvious. |
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| Posted by changegurl | 05/04/05 |
| hello I totally thought this one rock. okay so I didn't know what a epipen was. I added this one to my fav list. Okay it's like 2 in the am I got to get some sleep. :wink: :P :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| Posted by pacmansb | 05/18/05 |
| :P I'm an EMT who lives in Texas and I thought it was a good one. To elaborate why I'll provide a few facts. A peanut may be called a nut but it is really a legume. A legume allergy is one of the deadliest allergies out there. Look on a can of nuts or even a bag of sunflower seeds. There will be a disclaimer about the possibility of peanut products because they are canned in the same factory. Peanut oil or even peanut dust is enought to set off a reaction. Schools ban peanut products from their cafeterias when just 1 student has this allergy. Respertory arrest would start almost immediatly and if you were driving it would be easy to wreck a car. And to the comment about swelling, swelling is a late symptom in this kind of shock. |
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| Posted by pacmansb | 05/18/05 |
| :P I'm an EMT who lives in Texas and I thought it was a good one. To elaborate why I'll provide a few facts. A peanut may be called a nut but it is really a legume. A legume allergy is one of the deadliest allergies out there. Look on a can of nuts or even a bag of sunflower seeds. There will be a disclaimer about the possibility of peanut products because they are canned in the same factory. Peanut oil or even peanut dust is enought to set off a reaction. Schools ban peanut products from their cafeterias when just 1 student has this allergy. Respertory arrest would start almost immediatly and if you were driving it would be easy to wreck a car. And to the comment about swelling, swelling is a late symptom in this kind of shock. |
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| Posted by pickles1086 | 05/18/05 |
| You know, Kimmy's right about the Ear/Nose/Throat specialist thing, HOWEVER, I think that the combination of allergy medications/pamphlets, chocolate, and the whole "I made these specially for you" think pretty much gave it away. Good job though. |
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| Posted by Isabella2204 | 05/19/05 |
| How about people like me who luckly are not allergic to anything??? :-? I had no clue what Epi Pen meant. Too bad for me. Although, I guessed it was the cookies who killed her. I thought the cookies had some sort of tranquilizer and then she died from the accident. I was close! :wink: |
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| Posted by babybabe1 | 05/22/05 |
| Hello! How about makin a shorter version. :x :evil: |
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| Posted by DesertJules1974 | 05/23/05 |
| I thought it was a good teaser. Although, I did have a problem with no airbags deploying.
All naysayers - If the note had mentioned nuts, the doctor wouldn't have eaten them.
As peanut / nut allergies are very common, I assumed nuts in the cookies. I had to look up Elidel, which means I also learned something.
Thanks, Mysterious. Oh, btw, I just joined today. Love the teasers! :lol: |
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| Posted by tabsgrl09 | 05/24/05 |
| i figured it had something to do with allergies
Good One! |
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| Posted by BirdmanBen | 05/28/05 |
| I thought she had taken a lethal combo of drugs (one of the allergy drugs and maybe something in the cookies). Regardless, i knew that fran did it--"I made these especially for you" gave that one away :D Keep the mysteries coming--I really enjoy yours because they require some actual thought to solve! |
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| Posted by starbuxnut | 06/09/05 |
| For all of you who found no clue that she was alergic, Nobody carries an epi-pen unless they are deathly alergic to something.
The cookie make knew her forever, and was jealous.
It seemed obvious to me that there was something "I thought nuts" In the cookies.
I thought it was great.
And what is up with complaining about the length. That wasn't that long.
Good job. |
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| Posted by brainfog | 06/19/05 |
| Good job! I guessed it as soon as I read about the cookies being open. I carry an Epi pen in my purse and have gone into anaphylactic shock a few times myself, so it was a no brainer for me. Oh, PLUS, the packet of Benedryl was partially used, which was another clue that she had allergies. Doctors don't carry around partially used meds to hand out. :D
p.s. I agree with the comments about the lack of airbag deployment! |
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| Posted by nikapooh | 06/19/05 |
| Ok ppl airbags dont always deploy they have a sensor and if the impact isnt in the right spot they wont deploy or if its a low speed impact. I figured that Fran did it because of her message and that she put some kind of allergen in it. The doctor was probably looked down for her pen and was going slow therefore no bruise. |
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| Posted by mamimi | 07/02/05 |
| good teaser, i kinda agree w/ some of the ppl here, you'd have to be educated on the subject of food allergies(like nuts)to think of that 1st hand-to some ppl that's the last thing on their minds |
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| Posted by burfly01 | 07/03/05 |
| well i did not know what a epi pen wwas but i thot and thot maybe the cookies were poisened never wood have thought of nuts becuz i wood see nuts in the cookie and for people how wont read a riddle because it is to long dont rite a comment ur just LAzy!!!long ones r usually really good!! :D |
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| Posted by bhssoccer23 | 07/11/05 |
| I thought maybe the cookies were just poisoned and the poison made her suffocate. I figured she had the epi pen in there for one of her patients, and could have tried to reach for it to open up her breathing passages. That's basically what an epi pen does, doesn't it. Anyway, I figured she was reaching for the epi pen and crashed. I would have never thought of nuts!!!! Great teaser!! I really enjoyed reading this one, though I don't really like the ones in present tense. I guess it kind of confuses me!!! |
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| Posted by silly_goose | 07/16/05 |
| I love how serious you Braingle-ites are about the teasers, with all these super-scientific answers/rebuttals to a simple brainteaser....it makes me giggle. :lol: Maybe lighten up a little bit? :wink: |
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| Posted by summachick | 07/23/05 |
| I think it was a good one. :lol: People if you don't like the teaser please keep it to yourself |
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| Posted by kayleeskitties | 09/07/05 |
| Great teaser! I knew it had somethign to do with the Epi Pen-I just didn't know about the nuts thing.... :D |
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| Posted by Laboomsikashod | 09/21/05 |
| It was a very interesting and well thought out mystery.
I tried it first without knowing what all the medicine items meant, and I concluded it was poisoned cookies sent by Fran that made her lose driving ability and crash into the tree. After reading the solution and meaning of those item, it was quite easy to understand. |
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| Posted by Mysterious | 12/02/05 |
| Gregmatic, You need to reread the teaser and you will see that the teaser neither contains a pathologists report nor a coroner's report. The report only contained the findings of the detectives at the scene of the crash. It was their ovservations alone.
Also, the Doctor was not poisoned, but she had a deadly allergic reaction. For people with extreme allergies, sometimes even breathing the allergen can send them into a deadly reaction.
Also, the Doctor had been leaning over trying to reach the medicine in her purse. Her purse was in the passenger seat and not her lap. It would be very possible for her to hit her head on the dashboard in her car and not the steering wheel.
Next time, you might want to read a teaser more carefully. When we read them too quickly and not carefully enough, we miss important details.
:wink: |
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| Posted by zonarita | 02/06/06 |
| :D Myst, great mystery story. Of course you don't need me to tell you that. A great teaser will make folks think and your teaser did just that!! :D KUDOS!!!! |
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| Posted by grungy49 | 07/16/06 |
| Woh. I didn't get it. Nice one. |
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| Posted by bluejubba | 10/02/06 |
| well i liked the teaser. I didn't know what an epi pen was, i just assumed it was a form of writing pen :oops:
"and inside is a very lovely but dead young woman" that phrase made me laugh, heh |
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| Posted by choptlivva | 12/04/06 |
| Interesting teaser. A little long. I thought it was obvious that it was a deadly allergy of some sort. I guessed either bee sting or nuts in the cookies (not poison, because the "toxin test was negative"). My only question is this... wouldn't the victim, being a doctor and knowing how fatal a peanut allergy is, KNOW not to eat something like cookies without being sure of the ingredients? That stretches the logic a little bit for me.... otherwise, good effort. :D |
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| Posted by LeafFan4life | 03/01/07 |
| long teaser but quite easy for someone with my brain power(iu gave too many hints about bakery and allergies)great job bud |
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| Posted by scallio | 09/05/07 |
| This was an excellent mystery!
Some of you people are acting crazy!
1. Fran has known the doctor her whole life (since Kindergarten) and would know her allergy, but of course she isn't going to add NUTS to the label! Duh, then the doctor wouldn't have eaten them. She ground them up small so they WOULDN'T be noticed and the doctor would eat a cookie!
2. "I made them just for you" implies it was murder rather than accidental.
3. Epi pen in the trunk AND in the car indicates an allergy (bees or food).
4. Doctor has an attack and wrecks trying to dig for her EPI pen-- no time for swelling before she hit the steering wheel and died, stopping blood flow and therefore stopping swelling. The doctor didn't die from the allergy... she died from the circumstances of trying to get the pen (blunt force trauma with a steering wheel). Yes, she would have swelled and died of the allergy if she hadn't wrecked her car and killed herself.
5. Yes, the airbag should have gone off.
6. Yes, she should have stopped the car WHILE grabbing for her EPI pen.
I don't have any allergies, but I know of EPI pens. This was an excellent teaser... way better than most of the mysteries I've read.
Thanks for a fun teaser!
:D |
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| Posted by 11171413 | 03/03/08 |
| I got it after the contents in the purse and the note from Fran, a little too easy in my opinion |
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| Posted by srpwuzhere | 11/15/08 |
| that was interesting :). it was kinda long but very ineresting! lolz i didnt get it |
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| Posted by Zag24 | 01/30/09 |
| I thought it was stupidly obvious that she had an allergic reaction to something, but it's still too much of a leap to assume that it must be nuts and that they must be in the cookies. She was a doctor, for darn's sake, so she would that anything out of a bakery will have some amount of nuts in it. If she were that allergic, she wouldn't have eaten them.
By the way, never use the abbreviation Dr. except as a title with a person's name -- Dr. Jones or Dr. Sue Smith. If it isn't with the name, always write it out. |
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| Posted by Radd_stuff | 12/01/10 |
| good 1 |
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| Posted by MagicPurple | 02/27/11 |
| Relax. It's just a teaser. |
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| Posted by mj1321 | 06/15/11 |
| Before I read this, I was in a bad mood, but this teaser really cheered me up!!! :D I love it and am adding it to my favorites, no matter what anybody says. |
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| Posted by Gwendalla | 06/27/11 |
| This was a wonderful teaser!
What is your secret? I always try to submit a wonderful teaser, but it ends up being a repeat EVERY TIME even though I came up with it myself. I sit down for like two hours coming up with a mystery, and somebody's done it. I do love solving them and I solved this one quickly, so I am not like square-brained. How do you make them so well? :D |
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| Posted by BookwormAnG | 08/29/11 |
| swimmer4life292 you ought to calm down. It's not hating, it's feedback. |
