The Werewolf Game
Game #1545: C&I (9) The Great Battle. Part 1
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Thanks jtrolley...
Well this is the moment you have been waiting for iluvgum was a... *Drumroll* COWBOY!!! Congratulations, But lets not get too far ahead of ourselves there are still 3 more out there.
AWWW bye bye froggy...
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"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
Thanks jtrolley...
Well this is the moment you have been waiting for iluvgum was a... *Drumroll* COWBOY!!! Congratulations, But lets not get too far ahead of ourselves there are still 3 more out there.
AWWW bye bye froggy...
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"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
NIGHT DID NOT TIME OUT!! THERE WERE 22 MINUTES LEFT IN THE ROUND WHEN I GOT ON...hmmm...
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
Ok people! Any thoughts out there?
edit - I went through last round, and I was reminded of a post made by shaidar. This part of one of his posts stuck out at me -
jtolley, why does it sound like the seer is still here? I haven't heard anything bout the seer since round one.
Now, jtolley responded by saying that if the seer had been taken out, then Stewie would have let us know. . . something that shaidar, should have known already. I think he was fishing for a clue as to who jtolley is suspecting of being the seer. . ..this, only a wolf would do. . .right?
I feel strongly that we should consider this as a possibility.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
edit - I went through last round, and I was reminded of a post made by shaidar. This part of one of his posts stuck out at me -
jtolley, why does it sound like the seer is still here? I haven't heard anything bout the seer since round one.
Now, jtolley responded by saying that if the seer had been taken out, then Stewie would have let us know. . . something that shaidar, should have known already. I think he was fishing for a clue as to who jtolley is suspecting of being the seer. . ..this, only a wolf would do. . .right?
I feel strongly that we should consider this as a possibility.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Yes I think we should aslo consider that. I think I've been set up. Everyone knows that I am arguing with froggy and now froggy is ate by the wolves. If anyone else thinks I am a wolf I am nota dumb wolf. Such action makes me more suspicious.
Seeing that froggy is now gone, I am only looking towards these people:
shaidar - As stated in snowy's post. Most probably the one I will vote for this round.
smithy - Is inactive for three days recently, using his AP tests as a reason. Is the most probable reason for me why night did not time out.
superman - seems the one wolfish in his arguement with jtolley
Not sure of these people:
snowy - Was only active when someone was throwing accusations at her. Not really a wolfish behavior, but watching snowy
jtolley - More probably the seer, but I am not sure of it. If not the seer a wolf, but more likely the seer, but I'm not sure. Wolves probably want to see this
hermionegranger - Is not an active poster but still in the game. Do not look like a wolf for his normal behavior.
icub - also acitve when someone threw accusations at her, watching icub
So we really need to shoot a wolf/cowboy this round or we'll be outnumbered. So now I am leaning towards shaidar, smithy, and superman. What does everybody else think?
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
Seeing that froggy is now gone, I am only looking towards these people:
shaidar - As stated in snowy's post. Most probably the one I will vote for this round.
smithy - Is inactive for three days recently, using his AP tests as a reason. Is the most probable reason for me why night did not time out.
superman - seems the one wolfish in his arguement with jtolley
Not sure of these people:
snowy - Was only active when someone was throwing accusations at her. Not really a wolfish behavior, but watching snowy
jtolley - More probably the seer, but I am not sure of it. If not the seer a wolf, but more likely the seer, but I'm not sure. Wolves probably want to see this
hermionegranger - Is not an active poster but still in the game. Do not look like a wolf for his normal behavior.
icub - also acitve when someone threw accusations at her, watching icub
So we really need to shoot a wolf/cowboy this round or we'll be outnumbered. So now I am leaning towards shaidar, smithy, and superman. What does everybody else think?
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
EDIT: Deleted half my post because it transpired I was talking rubbish.
SEPTILLION, through what reasoning do you think jtolley is the seer? And, more importantly, why would you voice such knowledge? Seems a little suspicious. I'm fairly sure I know who the seer is (assuming they're still here), but I daren't reveal it for fear of endangering said seer.
In regards to the drama of last round... yes, I'm fine with everyone, so long as you all realise I'd never stoop to personal attack in a game.
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SEPTILLION, through what reasoning do you think jtolley is the seer? And, more importantly, why would you voice such knowledge? Seems a little suspicious. I'm fairly sure I know who the seer is (assuming they're still here), but I daren't reveal it for fear of endangering said seer.
In regards to the drama of last round... yes, I'm fine with everyone, so long as you all realise I'd never stoop to personal attack in a game.
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Here are my thoughts on everyone:
HermioneGranger - Too inactive to say anything.
ICUB42 - This is another tricky one. I'm just not sure either.
jtolley - Well, Im not a wolf.
LavaIcee - Has had bouts of activness. another tough one to figure out.
SEPTILLIONGOLDS - trying to oust me as the seer? Well, that'd be good if I were the seer. I think you may be trying to communicate who the seer is to your fellow wolves (incorrectly however )
shaidar9haran - Snow makes a good point about shaidar. It seemed like he was fishing for the seer...hmmm...
Smithy - He says that gum must be the wolf, but he can't know that for sure. There are 10 people left so the humans still out number the wolves, so there still can be 4 wolves left. With regards to last round, I'm a little confused as to how you consider using "mindless retaliation" as a defense toward snowy? Well, snowy says she gets it and that's good enough for me because she was the one who the post directed toward. Sorry if I offended you, but that's how I read it.
snowmonster - Im inclined to think that since froggy was eaten, she's human
Superman77 - Im inclined to think that since froggy was eaten, he's also human Maybe...
WittyKitty - I'm not sure what to think of her.
If gum is a wolf, then my top three suspicions are: smithy, shaidar, and septilliongolds. If gum is a human, I'd add lava to the list.
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"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
HermioneGranger - Too inactive to say anything.
ICUB42 - This is another tricky one. I'm just not sure either.
jtolley - Well, Im not a wolf.
LavaIcee - Has had bouts of activness. another tough one to figure out.
SEPTILLIONGOLDS - trying to oust me as the seer? Well, that'd be good if I were the seer. I think you may be trying to communicate who the seer is to your fellow wolves (incorrectly however )
shaidar9haran - Snow makes a good point about shaidar. It seemed like he was fishing for the seer...hmmm...
Smithy - He says that gum must be the wolf, but he can't know that for sure. There are 10 people left so the humans still out number the wolves, so there still can be 4 wolves left. With regards to last round, I'm a little confused as to how you consider using "mindless retaliation" as a defense toward snowy? Well, snowy says she gets it and that's good enough for me because she was the one who the post directed toward. Sorry if I offended you, but that's how I read it.
snowmonster - Im inclined to think that since froggy was eaten, she's human
Superman77 - Im inclined to think that since froggy was eaten, he's also human Maybe...
WittyKitty - I'm not sure what to think of her.
If gum is a wolf, then my top three suspicions are: smithy, shaidar, and septilliongolds. If gum is a human, I'd add lava to the list.
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"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
I don't know if I call that defense or not, but as long as you do not seem suspicious to me I hope you don't get out of the game. I wasn't really sure that youa re the seer, just observing. I could still be wrong though. I know that I shouldn't be putting such things but just what I thought.
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
Sorry everyone, I've been trying to keep up, but with the end of the school year coming, and me being a senior, there's lots to do. I'll try to be more active in the game!
Viva la vie boheme :)
Viva la vie boheme :)
I don't think you did anything wrong SEPT. I am sure we'd all like to know who the seer is. The wolves, so they can eat the seer during the night, and the humans, so they can read into all the seer's post, and see if there's anything to go on. But it's a dangerous game to reveal the seer or share thoughts on who one may think is it. . . .
edit - I understand about end of the school stuff. . . . it can be hectic!
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
edit - I understand about end of the school stuff. . . . it can be hectic!
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Apologies, for some reason I thought we were at a later stage in the game, and that we had to kill a wolf for the game to continue. Ignore what I said previously (now deleted from my post).
jtolley, I never once accused snowy of "mindless retaliation" - I even mentioned a couple times why a vote for me was perfectly reasonable. I then went on to explain why I WOULDN'T vote for snowy, saying that "mindless retaliation" from me would be a bad idea (i.e. reciprocating the vote simply for revenge would be foolish). All clear now?
The trouble is, even if you have a genuine reason for being inactive (and, as it's end of year/exam period at the moment, there definitely are genuine reasons), it still doesn't prove innocence and, should we be unfortunate enough that all four wolves are inactive, it doesn't make for a very good game.
EDIT: It seems that gum WAS a wolf/cowboy(/cowgirl?). I wish I hadn't deleted half of my other post now!
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jtolley, I never once accused snowy of "mindless retaliation" - I even mentioned a couple times why a vote for me was perfectly reasonable. I then went on to explain why I WOULDN'T vote for snowy, saying that "mindless retaliation" from me would be a bad idea (i.e. reciprocating the vote simply for revenge would be foolish). All clear now?
The trouble is, even if you have a genuine reason for being inactive (and, as it's end of year/exam period at the moment, there definitely are genuine reasons), it still doesn't prove innocence and, should we be unfortunate enough that all four wolves are inactive, it doesn't make for a very good game.
EDIT: It seems that gum WAS a wolf/cowboy(/cowgirl?). I wish I hadn't deleted half of my other post now!
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Smithy, for what it's worth, I know you wouldn't attack me, or anyone in a game. It was easy to misunderstand when reading it, but I am not at all questioning it any longer. I believe you would never say or do anything like this against another player. So. . . let's move on.
I agree, no matter what the reason. . . a player could be a wolf, whether they are very active, not active because of RL or just inactive because of lack of interest/committment to the game. So, we shouldn't dismiss anyone as a suspect.
Very good that we got a wolf!!!! Now, let's get another!
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
I agree, no matter what the reason. . . a player could be a wolf, whether they are very active, not active because of RL or just inactive because of lack of interest/committment to the game. So, we shouldn't dismiss anyone as a suspect.
Very good that we got a wolf!!!! Now, let's get another!
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Nice! A wolf (cowboy) has been eliminated. They then went after froggy.......was it because she was on to something with her post last round? She has been after the inactives and I think that we should keep looking in that direction.
I will look at her past posts to see if anything jumps out at me.
FYI, thank you for clearing that up and being a gentleman Smithy. That was very honorable.
Even heroes have the right to bleed
I will look at her past posts to see if anything jumps out at me.
FYI, thank you for clearing that up and being a gentleman Smithy. That was very honorable.
Even heroes have the right to bleed
Sorry to have sounded so abrasive smithy. I think I get it now. Thank you for explaining it; your post just didn't read well
finally we got a wolf...bout time.
I'll be back later to look more closesly at things.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
finally we got a wolf...bout time.
I'll be back later to look more closesly at things.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
YES! I'm glad we finally got a wolf. This should help somewhat in our deducing of the other wolves.
The voting last round looked like this:
Super and ICUB also voted for iluvgum, so they are going to drop on my list of suspects. I find it interesting that iluvgum voted for Smithy along with jtolley and snowy. iluvgum doesn't seem like the type of player to vote for a fellow wolf, so, I'm going to drop Smithy down some on my list as well.
Right now, Septillion is at the top of my suspects list followed by Shaid and Snowy.
Looking forward to hearing thoughts from everyone.
Livin' that mom-life...
The voting last round looked like this:
froggygg voted for SEPTILLIONGOLDS
HermioneGranger voted for SEPTILLIONGOLDS
ICUB42 voted for iluvgum
iluvgum voted for Smithy
jtolley voted for Smithy
LavaIcee voted for SEPTILLIONGOLDS
snowmonster voted for Smithy
Superman77 voted for iluvgum
WittyKitty voted for iluvgum
HermioneGranger voted for SEPTILLIONGOLDS
ICUB42 voted for iluvgum
iluvgum voted for Smithy
jtolley voted for Smithy
LavaIcee voted for SEPTILLIONGOLDS
snowmonster voted for Smithy
Superman77 voted for iluvgum
WittyKitty voted for iluvgum
Super and ICUB also voted for iluvgum, so they are going to drop on my list of suspects. I find it interesting that iluvgum voted for Smithy along with jtolley and snowy. iluvgum doesn't seem like the type of player to vote for a fellow wolf, so, I'm going to drop Smithy down some on my list as well.
Right now, Septillion is at the top of my suspects list followed by Shaid and Snowy.
Looking forward to hearing thoughts from everyone.
Livin' that mom-life...
SEPTILLION is the one on my list now. It's becoming too obvious. I'll have more to say later, but for now I have to drive 40 miles to get a gallon of milk.
Oh, the country life!
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
Oh, the country life!
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
I'd get more than 1 ICUB42!!! Ok, I hope you explain what's so obvious about SEPT. I'm still going with Shaidar, unless good evidence is brought up to make him look human rather than wolf.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
List of players currently still in the game:
HermioneGranger
ICUB42
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
Smithy
snowmonster
Superman77
WittyKitty
Three of the above are wolves.
iluvgum voted for me near the end of the round. I feel this more or less clears me. (I realise none of you can be 100% sure but, from an objective point of view, it's pretty compelling evidence.)
Witty, ICUB and Super all voted for iluvgum. I'm 99% sure none of them could be a wolf, unless it's a bizarre tactic - otherwise they would have voted for and condemned me instead. So I can effectively remove all of them too.
That leaves:
HermioneGranger
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
snowmonster
Hermione and shaidar have been pretty inactive. It's a strong possibility that we have at least one inactive wolves, so these two need to be looked at. Lava hasn't been inactive as such, but certainly hasn't been at the forefront of debate, so I think he could be another to watch.
Snowy and jtolley are both possibilities too, but nothing thus far makes them stand out as being particularly suspicious.
Most suspcious of all to me, though, is SEPTILLION. I stood up for him in round 1 after the random vote, and I stand by that move in principle - however, in this case, I now think it may have been a bad decision. His admission that he only was active when he needed to defend himself seems very suspect to me. In the interest of getting the debate going and trying to make things a bit more active, I'm logging an early vote for SEPTILLION.
EDIT: Had to be a typo.
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HermioneGranger
ICUB42
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
Smithy
snowmonster
Superman77
WittyKitty
Three of the above are wolves.
iluvgum voted for me near the end of the round. I feel this more or less clears me. (I realise none of you can be 100% sure but, from an objective point of view, it's pretty compelling evidence.)
Witty, ICUB and Super all voted for iluvgum. I'm 99% sure none of them could be a wolf, unless it's a bizarre tactic - otherwise they would have voted for and condemned me instead. So I can effectively remove all of them too.
That leaves:
HermioneGranger
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
snowmonster
Hermione and shaidar have been pretty inactive. It's a strong possibility that we have at least one inactive wolves, so these two need to be looked at. Lava hasn't been inactive as such, but certainly hasn't been at the forefront of debate, so I think he could be another to watch.
Snowy and jtolley are both possibilities too, but nothing thus far makes them stand out as being particularly suspicious.
Most suspcious of all to me, though, is SEPTILLION. I stood up for him in round 1 after the random vote, and I stand by that move in principle - however, in this case, I now think it may have been a bad decision. His admission that he only was active when he needed to defend himself seems very suspect to me. In the interest of getting the debate going and trying to make things a bit more active, I'm logging an early vote for SEPTILLION.
EDIT: Had to be a typo.
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**taken from Smithy's post -
iluvgum voted for me near the end of the round. I feel this more or less clears me. (I realise none of you can be 100% sure but, from an objective point of view, it's pretty compelling evidence.)
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Smithy, if iluvgum knew she was going down, she would do something to protect another wolf, and the easiest thing to do is vote for another, as long as it didn't get them fired. Maybe this was her way of trying to make a fellow wolf look human. This is something we seriously need to consider. Just consider. NOTHING tells me that you are a wolf, but her voting for you does not clear you, but rather raises a red flag, and causes me to wonder if she did this for a specific purpose . . . to make a wolf look human.
This does not change my vote though. At least not yet.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
iluvgum voted for me near the end of the round. I feel this more or less clears me. (I realise none of you can be 100% sure but, from an objective point of view, it's pretty compelling evidence.)
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Smithy, if iluvgum knew she was going down, she would do something to protect another wolf, and the easiest thing to do is vote for another, as long as it didn't get them fired. Maybe this was her way of trying to make a fellow wolf look human. This is something we seriously need to consider. Just consider. NOTHING tells me that you are a wolf, but her voting for you does not clear you, but rather raises a red flag, and causes me to wonder if she did this for a specific purpose . . . to make a wolf look human.
This does not change my vote though. At least not yet.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
You guys bring up good points about smithy and gum. Gum was not active enough to be invested in the game so I doubt that she would have been strategic vote for a wolf, especially if it brings him or her into a tie.
So that limits my suspicion on smithy, leaving as my top two suspects: shaidar and septilliongolds.
I'm not sure how it's obvious that septilliongolds is a wolf. I find it very suspicious that he called out that I was the seer, but Shaidar seemed to be probing last round for information, making him slightly more suspicious in my book.
I'm going to vote for shaidar to spark debate.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
So that limits my suspicion on smithy, leaving as my top two suspects: shaidar and septilliongolds.
I'm not sure how it's obvious that septilliongolds is a wolf. I find it very suspicious that he called out that I was the seer, but Shaidar seemed to be probing last round for information, making him slightly more suspicious in my book.
I'm going to vote for shaidar to spark debate.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
snowmonster wrote:
It's a good point, and something I did consider, but as jtolley said, she wasn't really involved in the game enough to partake in such psychological strategy. Also, I was around at the end of the last round and, if this scenario were true and I was being voted on by a fellow wolf, I could easily have returned the favour - both ensuring my survival AND "proving" my innocence for condemning a comrade. I realise I can't prove to everyone else my innocence as well as I know it, but I think it's enough to make my innocence quite likely to the unbiased viewer.
**taken from Smithy's post -
iluvgum voted for me near the end of the round. I feel this more or less clears me. (I realise none of you can be 100% sure but, from an objective point of view, it's pretty compelling evidence.)
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Smithy, if iluvgum knew she was going down, she would do something to protect another wolf, and the easiest thing to do is vote for another, as long as it didn't get them fired. Maybe this was her way of trying to make a fellow wolf look human. This is something we seriously need to consider. Just consider. NOTHING tells me that you are a wolf, but her voting for you does not clear you, but rather raises a red flag, and causes me to wonder if she did this for a specific purpose . . . to make a wolf look human.
This does not change my vote though. At least not yet.
iluvgum voted for me near the end of the round. I feel this more or less clears me. (I realise none of you can be 100% sure but, from an objective point of view, it's pretty compelling evidence.)
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Smithy, if iluvgum knew she was going down, she would do something to protect another wolf, and the easiest thing to do is vote for another, as long as it didn't get them fired. Maybe this was her way of trying to make a fellow wolf look human. This is something we seriously need to consider. Just consider. NOTHING tells me that you are a wolf, but her voting for you does not clear you, but rather raises a red flag, and causes me to wonder if she did this for a specific purpose . . . to make a wolf look human.
This does not change my vote though. At least not yet.
It's a good point, and something I did consider, but as jtolley said, she wasn't really involved in the game enough to partake in such psychological strategy. Also, I was around at the end of the last round and, if this scenario were true and I was being voted on by a fellow wolf, I could easily have returned the favour - both ensuring my survival AND "proving" my innocence for condemning a comrade. I realise I can't prove to everyone else my innocence as well as I know it, but I think it's enough to make my innocence quite likely to the unbiased viewer.
snowmonster wrote:
Actually I only asked because I thought stewie already revealed that Radioguy was the seer. So I was really just looking for clarification on that matter. I eventually reread round 2 and saw that Steiwe just made a typo.
Since everyone else is pointing out their suspects I will too:
HermioneGranger
ICUB42
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
Smithy
snowmonster
Superman77
WittyKitty
I will eliminate 4 people Witty, ICUB, Superman, and Smithy. The first three for voting for iluvgum in a tied vote and Smithy, because iluvgum voted for him. That leaves:
HermioneGranger
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
snowmonster
Only 6 and of that 6, 3 are wolves.
HermioneGranger - very inactive. And since the nights have frequently been close or have timed out, this is something to look at, also it appears the wolves are flying under the radar this game.
jtolley - loud and proud. Has accused everyone on this list of six at one point in the game. This may be a wolf tactic to get people off his scent, but I doubt it he appears human invested in the game to me.
LavaIcee - Also very inactive. Same reasons as HG.
SEPTILLIONGOLDS - Has done multiple wolfy things. Has placed suspicion on numerous individuals. Earlier this round stated suspicion for a seer, this is extremely taboo... also as said by smithy, he admitted to being active only whendefending himself. So he was trying to fly under the radar.
shaidar9haran - Has been moderately active, compared to HG and Lava I've been very active but compared to snowy and jtolley I've been inactive so I'm more in the middle. I made a questionable post last round and have been suspected for inactivity (even though I haven't been that inactive.)
snowmonster - snow has been suspected of only being active when accused but this is ridiculous. She's been active all game, true she stuck up for herself, but she's done so much more for the team than that. To me she is human.
In the end SEPT is my top suspect followed by Hermione and then Lava.
Ok people! Any thoughts out there?
edit - I went through last round, and I was reminded of a post made by shaidar. This part of one of his posts stuck out at me -
jtolley, why does it sound like the seer is still here? I haven't heard anything bout the seer since round one.
Now, jtolley responded by saying that if the seer had been taken out, then Stewie would have let us know. . . something that shaidar, should have known already. I think he was fishing for a clue as to who jtolley is suspecting of being the seer. . ..this, only a wolf would do. . .right?
I feel strongly that we should consider this as a possibility.
edit - I went through last round, and I was reminded of a post made by shaidar. This part of one of his posts stuck out at me -
jtolley, why does it sound like the seer is still here? I haven't heard anything bout the seer since round one.
Now, jtolley responded by saying that if the seer had been taken out, then Stewie would have let us know. . . something that shaidar, should have known already. I think he was fishing for a clue as to who jtolley is suspecting of being the seer. . ..this, only a wolf would do. . .right?
I feel strongly that we should consider this as a possibility.
Actually I only asked because I thought stewie already revealed that Radioguy was the seer. So I was really just looking for clarification on that matter. I eventually reread round 2 and saw that Steiwe just made a typo.
Since everyone else is pointing out their suspects I will too:
HermioneGranger
ICUB42
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
Smithy
snowmonster
Superman77
WittyKitty
I will eliminate 4 people Witty, ICUB, Superman, and Smithy. The first three for voting for iluvgum in a tied vote and Smithy, because iluvgum voted for him. That leaves:
HermioneGranger
jtolley
LavaIcee
SEPTILLIONGOLDS
shaidar9haran
snowmonster
Only 6 and of that 6, 3 are wolves.
HermioneGranger - very inactive. And since the nights have frequently been close or have timed out, this is something to look at, also it appears the wolves are flying under the radar this game.
jtolley - loud and proud. Has accused everyone on this list of six at one point in the game. This may be a wolf tactic to get people off his scent, but I doubt it he appears human invested in the game to me.
LavaIcee - Also very inactive. Same reasons as HG.
SEPTILLIONGOLDS - Has done multiple wolfy things. Has placed suspicion on numerous individuals. Earlier this round stated suspicion for a seer, this is extremely taboo... also as said by smithy, he admitted to being active only whendefending himself. So he was trying to fly under the radar.
shaidar9haran - Has been moderately active, compared to HG and Lava I've been very active but compared to snowy and jtolley I've been inactive so I'm more in the middle. I made a questionable post last round and have been suspected for inactivity (even though I haven't been that inactive.)
snowmonster - snow has been suspected of only being active when accused but this is ridiculous. She's been active all game, true she stuck up for herself, but she's done so much more for the team than that. To me she is human.
In the end SEPT is my top suspect followed by Hermione and then Lava.
Interesting that you give me some credit, when I'm suspecting you the most. If I am eaten during the night, I'd also consider this as a tactic to look more human than wolf. I appreciate the vote of confidence though.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
snowmonster wrote:
It's not that I think you come off as human it's just that multiple people have made comments suspecting you, yet their basis is a lie...
Interesting that you give me some credit, when I'm suspecting you the most. If I am eaten during the night, I'd also consider this as a tactic to look more human than wolf. I appreciate the vote of confidence though.
It's not that I think you come off as human it's just that multiple people have made comments suspecting you, yet their basis is a lie...
shaidar9haran wrote:
This is a very good point, and an angle I hadn't thought of considering. If he has indeed flown suspicion at all six of the suspects, when the rest of the pack wasn't necessarily leaning in his direction, then we can lower him down the order, too. Usually wolves will only turn on fellow wolves when they're doomed.
Shaidar, when posting, doesn't seem at all suspicous to me. It's only because we seem to have some low-key wolves, and the small number of suspects left, that I'm even really considering him.
jtolley - loud and proud. Has accused everyone on this list of six at one point in the game. This may be a wolf tactic to get people off his scent, but I doubt it he appears human invested in the game to me.
This is a very good point, and an angle I hadn't thought of considering. If he has indeed flown suspicion at all six of the suspects, when the rest of the pack wasn't necessarily leaning in his direction, then we can lower him down the order, too. Usually wolves will only turn on fellow wolves when they're doomed.
Shaidar, when posting, doesn't seem at all suspicous to me. It's only because we seem to have some low-key wolves, and the small number of suspects left, that I'm even really considering him.
shaidar9haran wrote:
I've been under the radar for a few, but you cannot say that multiple people have made comments suspecting me. If fact, several have stated that while they are watching me, nothing stands out as wolfish. If what you are saying is true, I would have been shot by now. It has been mentioned that I had not provided anything "new" only going along with what others have said. . . .this may be true to some degree, but I have raised the question of your interest in the seer, and your support for me - which both will make you look human, not wolf . . . . if in fact you are a wolf. I believe you are. My vote goes to Shaidar.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
snowmonster wrote:
It's not that I think you come off as human it's just that multiple people have made comments suspecting you, yet their basis is a lie...
Interesting that you give me some credit, when I'm suspecting you the most. If I am eaten during the night, I'd also consider this as a tactic to look more human than wolf. I appreciate the vote of confidence though.
It's not that I think you come off as human it's just that multiple people have made comments suspecting you, yet their basis is a lie...
I've been under the radar for a few, but you cannot say that multiple people have made comments suspecting me. If fact, several have stated that while they are watching me, nothing stands out as wolfish. If what you are saying is true, I would have been shot by now. It has been mentioned that I had not provided anything "new" only going along with what others have said. . . .this may be true to some degree, but I have raised the question of your interest in the seer, and your support for me - which both will make you look human, not wolf . . . . if in fact you are a wolf. I believe you are. My vote goes to Shaidar.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
well I guess that means that it is 2-2 I'd like to hear from the other 6 people... they haven't had much input.
D:
I've tried to be active, and I've managed to get at least a post in during each round but I told you I've been really busy with school!
Next week is the last week and I've been cramming for Finals and trying to catch up on the mountain of homework I still have from missing a lot of school due to personal reasons...
Hmm... well reading that over it looks pretty defensive but I do want to make sure my reason gets across to you I don't mean it in a defensive way.
Anyways, I have a few suspicions but I dunno if they're valid or if I'm just trying to make something of nothing
I still think SEPT is supicious because of everything that has been stated, but I'm not entirely sure :S
Froggy voted for him, and then she got voted so automatically you'd think that he was cleared but not really... not if he was trying to make it seem like he was cleared Reverse Psycology? You guys said that gum wasn't able to use it because she wasn't active, but do you think that SEPT is active enough? For some reason I think that he's checking up on the game but just not being active. How else would he know when he's being suspected?
Another person I suspect is Smithy -- I know that you guys have talked about gum not being able to tell, but if you looked she's been on so she's another person that I had the feeling was watching and not posting.
... Alright, I don't really suspect Smithy but I do think that he shouldn't be cleared just because that's who gum voted for >.> (Actually ICUB pointed out that gum was active but didn't post several rounds ago...)
Also, just because the rounds are close to timing out or have timed out does not mean that there is an inactive wolf -- I've seen it many-a-times when active wolves try and seem inactive to get suspicion off of them. Plus the fact that they're -almost- timing out EVERY ROUND also adds to that. I think that at least two of the wolves are active (semi at least) and that we have 1 very inactive wolf (or previously inactive)
Well I have to go to this graduation party so I'll try and get back on later this round
I've tried to be active, and I've managed to get at least a post in during each round but I told you I've been really busy with school!
Next week is the last week and I've been cramming for Finals and trying to catch up on the mountain of homework I still have from missing a lot of school due to personal reasons...
Hmm... well reading that over it looks pretty defensive but I do want to make sure my reason gets across to you I don't mean it in a defensive way.
Anyways, I have a few suspicions but I dunno if they're valid or if I'm just trying to make something of nothing
I still think SEPT is supicious because of everything that has been stated, but I'm not entirely sure :S
Froggy voted for him, and then she got voted so automatically you'd think that he was cleared but not really... not if he was trying to make it seem like he was cleared Reverse Psycology? You guys said that gum wasn't able to use it because she wasn't active, but do you think that SEPT is active enough? For some reason I think that he's checking up on the game but just not being active. How else would he know when he's being suspected?
Another person I suspect is Smithy -- I know that you guys have talked about gum not being able to tell, but if you looked she's been on so she's another person that I had the feeling was watching and not posting.
... Alright, I don't really suspect Smithy but I do think that he shouldn't be cleared just because that's who gum voted for >.> (Actually ICUB pointed out that gum was active but didn't post several rounds ago...)
Also, just because the rounds are close to timing out or have timed out does not mean that there is an inactive wolf -- I've seen it many-a-times when active wolves try and seem inactive to get suspicion off of them. Plus the fact that they're -almost- timing out EVERY ROUND also adds to that. I think that at least two of the wolves are active (semi at least) and that we have 1 very inactive wolf (or previously inactive)
Well I have to go to this graduation party so I'll try and get back on later this round
Okay, so I just got back from doing volunteer work, and here's my thoughts:
Great job on getting a wolf-cowboy-thingy! (I know what I'm talking about, but like to call it that anyways )
I'm reading all the posts, and I don't really have time to post a long one myself, soo....
I think I'm gonna stick with septillion.
From previous posts, his makes the most sense, so kablam, there goes my vote.
Viva la vie boheme :)
Great job on getting a wolf-cowboy-thingy! (I know what I'm talking about, but like to call it that anyways )
I'm reading all the posts, and I don't really have time to post a long one myself, soo....
I think I'm gonna stick with septillion.
From previous posts, his makes the most sense, so kablam, there goes my vote.
Viva la vie boheme :)
I did not really understand what made me suspicious. Because of my posts? I never understood that.
Well since shaidar is on tops of my list and we need to shoot a wolf now I will vote for shaidar. Sorry if you're human, but what can I do?
Probably if shaidar gets shot and she is human everyone will think that me and snowy are wolves. If shaidar is a wolf then that would lessen suspicion. I hope my vote is right.
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
Well since shaidar is on tops of my list and we need to shoot a wolf now I will vote for shaidar. Sorry if you're human, but what can I do?
Probably if shaidar gets shot and she is human everyone will think that me and snowy are wolves. If shaidar is a wolf then that would lessen suspicion. I hope my vote is right.
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
You're gonna have to trust me on this. I have stated good reasons to believe Shaidar is a wolf. Whether he gets shot this round or not, if I get eaten during the night, please take what I've posted seriously.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Well There is still another day to decide, but this has been a very eventful day 1. I won't be able to get on for another 17 hours at minimum. I probably won't be back until a few hours before the round ends. I just hope you examine what I've said up until this point and realize that this is an important decision. We need to shoot wolves and Sept is our best chance I believe, at least it is a better option than myself. I know for a fact I am human, Sept may be human but at least there is a chance he is not and I am willing to take that chance. I'll see you all tommorow night.
The same with me I am not taking any chances I just really didn't see why I looked wolfish through my posts. Sorry but I know I am a human and if I get shot we'll be outnumbered by the wolves. I know the wolves won't choose to eat me.
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
Again - fellow humans, ya gotta trust me on this. (((( ))))
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
If you really meant "fellow humans". But I think you are one so, ok. The same thing please when I get shot.
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
shutting up or down has the same meaning, why need the up and down? just keep it shut!
Yes guys shiadar is the way to go...trust me too Wow, could I be more obvious
I think that ICUB, snow, and superman are not wolves. I also think that shaidar is a wolf.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
I think that ICUB, snow, and superman are not wolves. I also think that shaidar is a wolf.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
I don't get it... How do you see shaidar being a wolf?
Viva la vie boheme :)
Viva la vie boheme :)
Shidar is a wolf for four reasons:
1) He was trying to fish for information about the seer...stewie did not make a mistake. It was mentioned several times lin the first round that stewie would explicitly say that the seer is still here . Since shaidar has posted a few times after that, I'd say that he should have understood that. I think he was fishing for information
2) Shaidar says that he's been "moderately active" but he's been one of the more inactive people here. He's trying to cover up for the reason a lot of us suspect him.
3) for me, it comes down to shaidar, sept, smithy, hermoine, witty, and lava. 3 of these people are wolves so odds are likely shaidar is one of them. More importantly, shaidar hasn't shown me any reason why he is human. The others in this list have at least done human like things.
4) A feeling.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
1) He was trying to fish for information about the seer...stewie did not make a mistake. It was mentioned several times lin the first round that stewie would explicitly say that the seer is still here . Since shaidar has posted a few times after that, I'd say that he should have understood that. I think he was fishing for information
2) Shaidar says that he's been "moderately active" but he's been one of the more inactive people here. He's trying to cover up for the reason a lot of us suspect him.
3) for me, it comes down to shaidar, sept, smithy, hermoine, witty, and lava. 3 of these people are wolves so odds are likely shaidar is one of them. More importantly, shaidar hasn't shown me any reason why he is human. The others in this list have at least done human like things.
4) A feeling.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
Come on guys! Let's work together and get a Wolf!!!
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Yes. We we need to work together.
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
Hey! It's jtolley's Birthday today!
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
My vote will be going for Shaidar based upon what I've read from this round.
EDIT: Happy birthday, Jtolley! I hope it goes awesomely!
---This message was edited on 2009-05-22 10:43:29---
Livin' that mom-life...
EDIT: Happy birthday, Jtolley! I hope it goes awesomely!
---This message was edited on 2009-05-22 10:43:29---
Livin' that mom-life...
WOW how did I not notice... Happy Bleated Birthday JT...
The vote are as follows with about 9 hours 40 mins left.
4-3 for Shaider it's gonna be a close one.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
The vote are as follows with about 9 hours 40 mins left.
4-3 for Shaider it's gonna be a close one.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
ICUB42 wrote:
I said that to see who would jump on SEPT. I'm voting for shaidar9haran !
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
SEPTILLION is the one on my list now. It's becoming too obvious. I'll have more to say later, but for now I have to drive 40 miles to get a gallon of milk.
Oh, the country life!
Oh, the country life!
I said that to see who would jump on SEPT. I'm voting for shaidar9haran !
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
Thanks for the B-day wishes everyone
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
"Your theory is crazy, but it's not crazy enough to be true" ~Neils Bohr
I'm not really sure about shaidar or SEPTILLION, but the people I'm tending to trust as human seem to be voting Shaidar's way, so I'll finish the round off and switch my vote. Goodnight all, and good luck surviving the night...
Happy birthday to you, jtolley! Hope you have a great day.
Happy birthday to you, jtolley! Hope you have a great day.
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