The Werewolf Game
Game #2748: C&I(xxv)The Final Showdown (1)
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Thanks chang.
strat and guam were human. And I apologise for not mentioing this last round, but Nicats was the ser.
Bit unfortunate there but, it happens.
Better luck this time.
Stu.
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Thanks chang.
strat and guam were human. And I apologise for not mentioing this last round, but Nicats was the ser.
Bit unfortunate there but, it happens.
Better luck this time.
Stu.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-10 20:31:59---
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We'll see if we get the info, just hanging around for the most part.
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Noticed you changed your vote to guam without explanation . . . . .
Night certainly did not time out so . . . .
Strategery voted for guam. If guam turns out to be a wolf, I'm inclined to suspect longhorn to be human because of her comment last round about her suspecting guam and talanpoe, and the fact she voted for guam herself. If guam is human, this logic is out the door.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-10 19:51:37---
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Night certainly did not time out so . . . .
Strategery voted for guam. If guam turns out to be a wolf, I'm inclined to suspect longhorn to be human because of her comment last round about her suspecting guam and talanpoe, and the fact she voted for guam herself. If guam is human, this logic is out the door.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-10 19:51:37---
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Didn't think I needed an explanation... furthered the gap between the vote against meself and guam. Just to be safe.
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No seer, no point in an SPV anymore....
CRAP. ...!wolf down and no seerer!!!
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Last rounds votes -
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-10 22:40:05---
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-10 22:40:05---
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
snowy - I have been suspicious of Changhill ever since the vote for Cat, however LF voted for nicats in the second round too. So I also agree with you. I can take a shot at her - no offense Longhorn Fan.
snowmonster wrote:
Snowy, I don't follow you. When LH changed her vote to guam it was shortly after you posted what was then the voting list:
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for scrub88
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for talanpoe
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
As you can see there was a tie between Chang and Guam, so she did break the tie between Chang and Guam putting Guam in the majority. Sometime after she did that, and before the round ended, Chang then changed his vote from Scrub to Guam but once again failed to post his comment when he did, so we have no record of exactly when, but I'm positive it was after LH's post.
So, my dilemma at the moment is to decide if you are confused, or if you are trying to confuse everyone else. I'm open to discussion and have not made any definite decisions yet, so I'm anxious to hear what you have to say.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-11 07:37:47---
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Last rounds votes -
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
Snowy, I don't follow you. When LH changed her vote to guam it was shortly after you posted what was then the voting list:
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for scrub88
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for talanpoe
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
As you can see there was a tie between Chang and Guam, so she did break the tie between Chang and Guam putting Guam in the majority. Sometime after she did that, and before the round ended, Chang then changed his vote from Scrub to Guam but once again failed to post his comment when he did, so we have no record of exactly when, but I'm positive it was after LH's post.
So, my dilemma at the moment is to decide if you are confused, or if you are trying to confuse everyone else. I'm open to discussion and have not made any definite decisions yet, so I'm anxious to hear what you have to say.
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Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Vote for cat?!? I am not denying the vote, just wondering what you think my motives were. I wasn't campaigning a vote against him nor was my vote forming some strong majority against him. I simply formed another tie, so that people had time to react.
At snow, I am not a wolf, so you can understand why I see fault in your logic. More than that though, my top suspect is joining your vote so that leaves me very uneasy.
It seems a bit off for you to say that your vote is based on the fact that LF at some point voted for a human/seer. Guam was part of that vote and is a proven human. Unless I am missing something even in round 2 it's hard to justify that someone is wolf for voting for a human even if it happens to be the seer.
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At snow, I am not a wolf, so you can understand why I see fault in your logic. More than that though, my top suspect is joining your vote so that leaves me very uneasy.
It seems a bit off for you to say that your vote is based on the fact that LF at some point voted for a human/seer. Guam was part of that vote and is a proven human. Unless I am missing something even in round 2 it's hard to justify that someone is wolf for voting for a human even if it happens to be the seer.
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snowmonster wrote:
At the time I voted for guam it was tied at 2 votes each for guam and chang.
I am NOT a wolf but if you want to vote me off than do it. I am not going to beg and plead to make myself look innocent or guilty
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Last rounds votes -
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
At the time I voted for guam it was tied at 2 votes each for guam and chang.
I am NOT a wolf but if you want to vote me off than do it. I am not going to beg and plead to make myself look innocent or guilty
Like what you love, and love what you got.
I am not expecting an argument, but some kinda "fight" would be nice to see... any suspects?
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bradon182001 wrote:
Where are you getting last rounds voting list from Bobby? The one I posted is the final one. The one the game recorded and it clearly shows changhill with 2 votes and longhorn with 4. There is no way longhorn broke a tie just before the game ended by placing a vote for guam. I'm sorry, but this is the second time you've tried to make me look as if I don't know what I'm talking about. I was watching the game before last round ended pretty closely. LH changed her vote when changhill only had 2 votes. Either she miscounted or assumed changhill and guam were in a tie or she wanted to further secure the majority on guam, thus, saving changhill. When she chose to vote for guam, they were not tied.
Don't go by voting lists people post in the games, go by actual votes!
Here's who I am currently suspecting - and of course, I know I could be wrong, but this is where my thinking is -
Longhorn - her voting for guam last round.
Changhill - He seams to be in the middle of all this
Bobby - because she's manipulated 2 things posted, first the scrub and spud mixup and now my theory on Longhorns vote.
Talanpoe - not sure why, except his name has been mentioned a lot
Deb - cause she unusually quiet this game
caberet - same as Deb - too quiet
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
snowmonster wrote:
Snowy, I don't follow you. When LH changed her vote to guam it was shortly after you posted what was then the voting list:
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for scrub88
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for talanpoe
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
As you can see there was a tie between Chang and Guam, so she did break the tie between Chang and Guam putting Guam in the majority. Sometime after she did that, and before the round ended, Chang then changed his vote from Scrub to Guam but once again failed to post his comment when he did, so we have no record of exactly when, but I'm positive it was after LH's post.
So, my dilemma at the moment is to decide if you are confused, or if you are trying to confuse everyone else. I'm open to discussion and have not made any definite decisions yet, so I'm anxious to hear what you have to say.
Last rounds votes -
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for guamgirl2
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for guamgirl2
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
Longhorn posted this last round. It was the last post, posted.
Changed my vote to Guam to rid the tie and help establish the majority
Now, in order for longhorn to actually rid a tie, there would have had to been someone with 3 votes, so that when she decided to vote for guamgirl, she broke the tie, since the final vote has guam having 4 votes. See where I'm going with this. . . . .
I'm voting for longhorn this round. Something tells me she wanted to make sure guam was fired, possibly to protect changhill, in case someone came on and changed their vote to him. IDK, but this isn't settling well with me. Before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to rid. I think her vote for guam was just extra security to keep changhill safe. Any thoughts?
Only way I could be wrong with this is if she miscounted and actually thought there was a tie between changhill and guamgirl. Otherwise, she made a false account of how the votes were.
Snowy, I don't follow you. When LH changed her vote to guam it was shortly after you posted what was then the voting list:
bradon182001 voted for snowmonster
caberet voted for strategery
changhill voted for scrub88
debc1 voted for guamgirl2
Longhorn_fan voted for talanpoe
scrub88 voted for changhill
snowmonster voted for catmandon
strategery voted for guamgirl2
talanpoe voted for changhill
As you can see there was a tie between Chang and Guam, so she did break the tie between Chang and Guam putting Guam in the majority. Sometime after she did that, and before the round ended, Chang then changed his vote from Scrub to Guam but once again failed to post his comment when he did, so we have no record of exactly when, but I'm positive it was after LH's post.
So, my dilemma at the moment is to decide if you are confused, or if you are trying to confuse everyone else. I'm open to discussion and have not made any definite decisions yet, so I'm anxious to hear what you have to say.
Where are you getting last rounds voting list from Bobby? The one I posted is the final one. The one the game recorded and it clearly shows changhill with 2 votes and longhorn with 4. There is no way longhorn broke a tie just before the game ended by placing a vote for guam. I'm sorry, but this is the second time you've tried to make me look as if I don't know what I'm talking about. I was watching the game before last round ended pretty closely. LH changed her vote when changhill only had 2 votes. Either she miscounted or assumed changhill and guam were in a tie or she wanted to further secure the majority on guam, thus, saving changhill. When she chose to vote for guam, they were not tied.
Don't go by voting lists people post in the games, go by actual votes!
Here's who I am currently suspecting - and of course, I know I could be wrong, but this is where my thinking is -
Longhorn - her voting for guam last round.
Changhill - He seams to be in the middle of all this
Bobby - because she's manipulated 2 things posted, first the scrub and spud mixup and now my theory on Longhorns vote.
Talanpoe - not sure why, except his name has been mentioned a lot
Deb - cause she unusually quiet this game
caberet - same as Deb - too quiet
---This message was edited on 2012-07-11 09:23:56---
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Eergh - Our seer is down? And we have no idea who the clear was?
I'll reread things once I wake up and decide what to do...
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
I'll reread things once I wake up and decide what to do...
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Snow....Go back to last round and look at the voting list YOU posted. It was right before my post about changing votes. at the time I changed my vote there was an hour and 29 mins left in round.
Bradon is not trying to make you look bad or stupid, she is simply trying to point out what I am saying. Chang came in at end of round and silently voted for guam to make it 4-2 votes for guam. At time I voted for Guam it was 3-2 Gaum/chang.
With that being mentioned I tend to think bobbi is human, I also think Snowy is as well, for the time being. I think she is just getting things mixed up as shown with the Scrub/Spud thing....as I mentioned last round, I made the same mistake.
I am voting for Chang this round. His sneaky vote change at end of last round and his lack of posting voting reasons is driving me bonkers.
As far as me voting for Nicats in round 2 it was a SPV. Wolf or human, I can NOT possibly know who the seer is.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Bradon is not trying to make you look bad or stupid, she is simply trying to point out what I am saying. Chang came in at end of round and silently voted for guam to make it 4-2 votes for guam. At time I voted for Guam it was 3-2 Gaum/chang.
With that being mentioned I tend to think bobbi is human, I also think Snowy is as well, for the time being. I think she is just getting things mixed up as shown with the Scrub/Spud thing....as I mentioned last round, I made the same mistake.
I am voting for Chang this round. His sneaky vote change at end of last round and his lack of posting voting reasons is driving me bonkers.
As far as me voting for Nicats in round 2 it was a SPV. Wolf or human, I can NOT possibly know who the seer is.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
I understand what you are saying. Changhill changed his vote from scrubb to guam somewhere either between my last post and yours or after yours. When I posted my list, it was accurate, so he changed his voted after I had posted it. There's not many minutes between my last post and yours. . . . . so when did changhill change his vote? IDK, but as you say, you both changed your vote to guam, and one of your votes wasn't necessary. It's just a matter of who voted for guam last, you or changhill.
Either way, changhill was being protected from getting shot. This is how I'm seeing it at the moment.
Keeping my vote where it's at for now.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Either way, changhill was being protected from getting shot. This is how I'm seeing it at the moment.
Keeping my vote where it's at for now.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
I didn't think my lack of posting reasons would be so controversial. I post a reason if anyone should ask, but no one questions it till next round. What having trouble with is beyond voting change from SPV to a suspicion, strategy, or life preservation vote (which are all valid reason for a change in vote) is there anything that makes me seems wolfish?
In a game where people taboo mentioning of login times, seems weird that people will also taboo the exact time I changed my vote. At this point Brandon and Longhorn have the best understanding of votes.
snowmonster wrote:
I was the last to change their vote. At 2-3, chang-guam, it would have taken only one more vote to tie it up again. So rather than risk it, I changed my vote to further the gap. All of this was already established, so I am wondering why it's causing so much confusion :/
---This message was edited on 2012-07-11 10:19:58---
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In a game where people taboo mentioning of login times, seems weird that people will also taboo the exact time I changed my vote. At this point Brandon and Longhorn have the best understanding of votes.
snowmonster wrote:
I understand what you are saying. Changhill changed his vote from scrubb to guam somewhere either between my last post and yours or after yours. When I posted my list, it was accurate, so he changed his voted after I had posted it. There's not many minutes between my last post and yours. . . . . so when did changhill change his vote? IDK, but as you say, you both changed your vote to guam, and one of your votes wasn't necessary. It's just a matter of who voted for guam last, you or changhill.
Either way, changhill was being protected from getting shot. This is how I'm seeing it at the moment.
Keeping my vote where it's at for now.
Either way, changhill was being protected from getting shot. This is how I'm seeing it at the moment.
Keeping my vote where it's at for now.
I was the last to change their vote. At 2-3, chang-guam, it would have taken only one more vote to tie it up again. So rather than risk it, I changed my vote to further the gap. All of this was already established, so I am wondering why it's causing so much confusion :/
---This message was edited on 2012-07-11 10:19:58---
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snowmonster wrote:
Snowy, I am positive LH changed her vote BEFORE Chang/ And I believe Chang has explained why he changed his vote putting guam in a 4 -2 majority. I don't think that makes him wolfie at all given the amount of time left in the round. Someone could have changed their vote after LH made it 3-2 guam and tied it back up. I know that, because I considered doing just that.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
It's just a matter of who voted for guam last, you or changhill.
Either way, changhill was being protected from getting shot. This is how I'm seeing it at the moment.
Keeping my vote where it's at for now.
Either way, changhill was being protected from getting shot. This is how I'm seeing it at the moment.
Keeping my vote where it's at for now.
Snowy, I am positive LH changed her vote BEFORE Chang/ And I believe Chang has explained why he changed his vote putting guam in a 4 -2 majority. I don't think that makes him wolfie at all given the amount of time left in the round. Someone could have changed their vote after LH made it 3-2 guam and tied it back up. I know that, because I considered doing just that.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
There were just a few minutes left in the game. Why so worried? IDK, I just find it interesting that 2 people place a vote for guam at the end of the round to save you. If you were the last to change your vote, and there were just a few minutes left, it just seamed unnecessary. I do wonder why LH didn't vote for you instead. It's obvious guam was human, so why didn't she suspect you just as well.
I'm just thinking this out. . . . . . and I do know that I can't trust scrub - not at this point in the game, so I guess what I'm saying is that I"m back to suspecting everyone. LOL
**edit - and you know, this is one reason explaining your votes are important. It's irritating to see a vote change without explanation, even if it's to save yourself - even when there's just a few minutes left in the game.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-11 10:12:22---
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
I'm just thinking this out. . . . . . and I do know that I can't trust scrub - not at this point in the game, so I guess what I'm saying is that I"m back to suspecting everyone. LOL
**edit - and you know, this is one reason explaining your votes are important. It's irritating to see a vote change without explanation, even if it's to save yourself - even when there's just a few minutes left in the game.
---This message was edited on 2012-07-11 10:12:22---
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Interesting as it is, the more I read this I am starting to go with Bobbi and her theory that Snow might be trying to confuse votes and push for something that is not there. Still thinking on this one.
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Like what you love, and love what you got.
Think what you wish. I can only share what I'm thinking, even if what I'm thinking is off or doesn't make sense. This is how I think things through. So you feeling I'm trying to confuse others . . . is an insult to my playing style. But that's ok. I get this a lot.
I do stick to the fact that placing a vote without explanation is lame.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
I do stick to the fact that placing a vote without explanation is lame.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
The problem doesn't necessarily lie in the reasoning, it's the time stamp that some people are having trouble with. We are pretty much in agreement in the order of vote, but people are caught up in the when.
***EDIT TO ADD***
Snowy, but I did post an explanation. Not trying to start anything, but if you find someone questioning your line of logic as offensive. Shouldn't I find your "lame" comment just offensive?
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***EDIT TO ADD***
Snowy, but I did post an explanation. Not trying to start anything, but if you find someone questioning your line of logic as offensive. Shouldn't I find your "lame" comment just offensive?
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snowmonster wrote:
Snow....it should not be an INSULT! That is what you are SUPPOSED to do.
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Think what you wish. I can only share what I'm thinking, even if what I'm thinking is off or doesn't make sense. This is how I think things through. So you feeling I'm trying to confuse others . . . is an insult to my playing style. But that's ok. I get this a lot.
I do stick to the fact that placing a vote without explanation is lame.
I do stick to the fact that placing a vote without explanation is lame.
Snow....it should not be an INSULT! That is what you are SUPPOSED to do.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Sorry changhill, lame is kind of harsh. But if you explained your vote, what did you mean by this -
Didn't think I needed an explanation... furthered the gap between the vote against meself and guam. Just to be safe.
Just don't accuse me of trying to confuse everyone! I'm playing as I always do. . . . . now, maybe I'll be quiet and see where this round goes, without my input.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Didn't think I needed an explanation... furthered the gap between the vote against meself and guam. Just to be safe.
Just don't accuse me of trying to confuse everyone! I'm playing as I always do. . . . . now, maybe I'll be quiet and see where this round goes, without my input.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
The only people I am thinking of as being cleared as humans are bobbi and cab.
I know I am cleared but no one else does so does not much make a difference there.
To me, that leaves a whole list of suspects.....Cat, Talan, Chang, Snow, Deb, Scrubb
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I know I am cleared but no one else does so does not much make a difference there.
To me, that leaves a whole list of suspects.....Cat, Talan, Chang, Snow, Deb, Scrubb
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Lol. Brandon kinda summed it up very well. It was basically a preservation vote, but her herself thought about tying up the votes (and I can't begin to account for the other people). Yes at the time I was safe, but it only took one vote before I was endangered again. My vote wasn't making a difference at the time, so i changed it to further protect my life.
And no hard feeling towards anyone
*rawr*
And no hard feeling towards anyone
*rawr*
I do agree with you Snow about voting and not posting. If everyone did that, what fun would it be? It does irritate me as well, but there are many people who do just that. If you or I did it, we'd be shot in a heartbeat!
Now I don't want you to be upset with me for thinking you might be trying to muddy the waters here. I've played with you enough when you were a wolf to know that you are very good at that., in fact you have it down to a science, I think. It's not an insult to your playing style, but actually a compliment.
We've got about 9 hours left in the round. I'm pretty sure Scrub is on vacation so probably isn't monitoring the game like he normally does, but I'm getting the feeling from his one post this round that he is also trying to muddy the waters a bit himself by not correcting your idea that before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to break. For now I'm going to place a vote for Scrub, giving him enough time to come back and explain.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Now I don't want you to be upset with me for thinking you might be trying to muddy the waters here. I've played with you enough when you were a wolf to know that you are very good at that., in fact you have it down to a science, I think. It's not an insult to your playing style, but actually a compliment.
We've got about 9 hours left in the round. I'm pretty sure Scrub is on vacation so probably isn't monitoring the game like he normally does, but I'm getting the feeling from his one post this round that he is also trying to muddy the waters a bit himself by not correcting your idea that before longhorn changed her vote to guam, there was no tie to break. For now I'm going to place a vote for Scrub, giving him enough time to come back and explain.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
At this point we are 9 players left in the game with 2 wolves and no seer. That gives us a decent chance of hitting a wolf >25%. I think we can do it as long as we all pull our thoughts together and start to think as a collective.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Of course no hard feelings - and I don't think you are lame, but you did only explain your vote after the fact.
LH, how are you clearing Bobby and Caberet?
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
LH, how are you clearing Bobby and Caberet?
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
scrub88 wrote:
Based on Bobbi's idea this post does look like a wolf following a human who has posted a logic. Almost sounds like a wolf trying to fly under the radar but also add a bit of imput.
Might consider a Scrubb vote after some more posts come up.
Snow.......It is just a gutt clear. I am usually pretty decent at reading Cab, although she has not been as "wolf-sniffy" as she usually is.....that is a compliment cab I have played many games with bobbi so I am somewhat used to her style. They are not 100% clear by any means, just like I said, a vibe.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
snowy - I have been suspicious of Changhill ever since the vote for Cat, however LF voted for nicats in the second round too. So I also agree with you. I can take a shot at her - no offense Longhorn Fan.
Based on Bobbi's idea this post does look like a wolf following a human who has posted a logic. Almost sounds like a wolf trying to fly under the radar but also add a bit of imput.
Might consider a Scrubb vote after some more posts come up.
Snow.......It is just a gutt clear. I am usually pretty decent at reading Cab, although she has not been as "wolf-sniffy" as she usually is.....that is a compliment cab I have played many games with bobbi so I am somewhat used to her style. They are not 100% clear by any means, just like I said, a vibe.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
WOW ....woke up late to day
A lot going on in the game...
Everyone has been posting the voting from last round and
I noticed that my vote did not show...
I must not have hit save vote..
I voted changhill last round and will keep my vote this round..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
A lot going on in the game...
Everyone has been posting the voting from last round and
I noticed that my vote did not show...
I must not have hit save vote..
I voted changhill last round and will keep my vote this round..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
bradon182001 wrote:
It's ok, it's not typical of me either. Doesn't bug me though. (Random fact about myself: I almost failed Calculus for lack of shown work. I got the right answer, but only put the work that I needed for myself to get there. I left enough steps to read between the lines, but she said for all she knew I was cheating. There was a test I had to make up, I was the only one. Not of spite, just instinct, I made the same mistake. So to my surprise I once again failed the test :/ for the same reason, that I could have cheated... and the thought that kept running through my mind was how do I cheat with myself -.-
*rawr*
I do agree with you Snow about voting and not posting. If everyone did that, what fun would it be? It does irritate me as well, but there are many people who do just that. If you or I did it, we'd be shot in a heartbeat!
It's ok, it's not typical of me either. Doesn't bug me though. (Random fact about myself: I almost failed Calculus for lack of shown work. I got the right answer, but only put the work that I needed for myself to get there. I left enough steps to read between the lines, but she said for all she knew I was cheating. There was a test I had to make up, I was the only one. Not of spite, just instinct, I made the same mistake. So to my surprise I once again failed the test :/ for the same reason, that I could have cheated... and the thought that kept running through my mind was how do I cheat with myself -.-
*rawr*
Wow we have a 3-way tie!!!! hmm I will think a little and deceide if I am going to change my vote. If things stay the way they are I will most likelty change to scrubb to get myself out of a tie.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
I find it curious that catmandon is still around. So that bumps him up on my suspicion list. And that's where my vote is going for now.
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
"I discovered I scream the same whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." Axl Rose
Caberet, were you expecting the wolves to eat catmandon by now?
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Hi everyone. Glad someone saw my flag and location had changed. Enjoyed (as good as could be expected) the flight over and happen to have a computer for a brief check. A couple of things though:
I have not tried to hide under the radar. I first said that I believed that Cat and Bradon are high on my list to be cleared because of how early they voted Spud the first round. I suspected that the people voting for nicats or the other two were high on my suspect list, but only after we missed with tonja. And I certainly did not fly under the radar on that vote. Just unlucky. I am not sure why the first night went on so long now. Obviously both wolves are active.
Bobbi - LF and Snowy have both had problems this game. I think LF is more wolfy at the moment. I agree that Snowy is very, very clever.
check back before bed. Arrivaderci!
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I have not tried to hide under the radar. I first said that I believed that Cat and Bradon are high on my list to be cleared because of how early they voted Spud the first round. I suspected that the people voting for nicats or the other two were high on my suspect list, but only after we missed with tonja. And I certainly did not fly under the radar on that vote. Just unlucky. I am not sure why the first night went on so long now. Obviously both wolves are active.
Bobbi - LF and Snowy have both had problems this game. I think LF is more wolfy at the moment. I agree that Snowy is very, very clever.
check back before bed. Arrivaderci!
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Still waiting for Talan and Deb to chime in
Everyone else has voted and posted
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Everyone else has voted and posted
Like what you love, and love what you got.
hey
ready to chime...kind of...
took a nap, it felt good, and would really like to go back to sleep, but i digress
i don't know about the bobi/snow/long thing...at the time snow's posts and concerns seem real, she is clever enough to mess with our heads, bobi is mostly reacting but she is also clever enough to mess with our heads
long- ok clever enough too, could all three be humans? or a wolf in the mix??
kevy- ok he is adorable, but he is odd this game
scrub- well, lets say all of you are clever enough to mess with our heads, just don't know
cab- usually dog food by now...
cat- really don't know him well enough to form an opinion, but i know i have played with him before
tal- i always watch tal
ok that is really no help, will decide when i get there and is subject to change
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ready to chime...kind of...
took a nap, it felt good, and would really like to go back to sleep, but i digress
i don't know about the bobi/snow/long thing...at the time snow's posts and concerns seem real, she is clever enough to mess with our heads, bobi is mostly reacting but she is also clever enough to mess with our heads
long- ok clever enough too, could all three be humans? or a wolf in the mix??
kevy- ok he is adorable, but he is odd this game
scrub- well, lets say all of you are clever enough to mess with our heads, just don't know
cab- usually dog food by now...
cat- really don't know him well enough to form an opinion, but i know i have played with him before
tal- i always watch tal
ok that is really no help, will decide when i get there and is subject to change
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LOL deb ^^^^^
Interesting point about Cab usually being dog food by now though
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Interesting point about Cab usually being dog food by now though
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Ok it has almost been an hour, sorry for the double but I am out of here for the day.
I noticed that Deb voted Chang and if he is smart and gets back on, he will most likely put a vote on me to tie it up. I know I am not a wolf but should I get shot then you are one more human down.
I have heard that the computer favors wolves in a tie and will generally shoot the human. I have actually seen it happen but do not know if it is a coiencidence or what.
I guess the only way I can trully save myself here is to place a vote for Scrub, which I am not opposed to. That would make 2 votes for me, 2 votes for chang and 3 votes for Scrub
Round is over in 3 hours. I will check back in 2 and see if there are any changes.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
I noticed that Deb voted Chang and if he is smart and gets back on, he will most likely put a vote on me to tie it up. I know I am not a wolf but should I get shot then you are one more human down.
I have heard that the computer favors wolves in a tie and will generally shoot the human. I have actually seen it happen but do not know if it is a coiencidence or what.
I guess the only way I can trully save myself here is to place a vote for Scrub, which I am not opposed to. That would make 2 votes for me, 2 votes for chang and 3 votes for Scrub
Round is over in 3 hours. I will check back in 2 and see if there are any changes.
Like what you love, and love what you got.
LF, you're not high enough on my suspect list to want to shoot you yet... I am willing to hold strong if you want to change your vote... I'll try to be around, but I have a bad habit of losing track of time. Let me know asap.
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caberet wrote:
Isn't this the same as saying "Anyone not shot or eaten by now could be a wolf.."?
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
I find it curious that catmandon is still around. So that bumps him up on my suspicion list. And that's where my vote is going for now.
Isn't this the same as saying "Anyone not shot or eaten by now could be a wolf.."?
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
With about 56 minutes left in the game, here's the current voting list.
bradon182001 voted for scrub88
caberet voted for catmandon
catmandon voted for changhill
changhill voted for scrub88
debc1 voted for changhill
Longhorn_fan voted for changhill
scrub88 voted for Longhorn_fan
snowmonster voted for Longhorn_fan
Changhill hints to LH to change her vote off him. . . . . LH hints that she will change to scrub. . . . Hmmmmmmm
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
bradon182001 voted for scrub88
caberet voted for catmandon
catmandon voted for changhill
changhill voted for scrub88
debc1 voted for changhill
Longhorn_fan voted for changhill
scrub88 voted for Longhorn_fan
snowmonster voted for Longhorn_fan
Changhill hints to LH to change her vote off him. . . . . LH hints that she will change to scrub. . . . Hmmmmmmm
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
24 mins to go. If snowmoster is still on, I would like some last min input...
***EDIT TO ADD***
I guess with 10 mins to go, I will tie it up. I guess should I die my top three suspects are:
scrubs88~ Logic at time seems off or vague.
talan~ Just kinda looking at voting record, a hunch, nothing solid.
cab/deb~ I am kinda hurt by deb's vote for me, especially with two wolves left. I could understand if I were the "last wolf". I am kinda missing the whole cab theories/hunt. Not that it makes her wolfish, but still like to see it.
cat~ kinda pops out at me, but in the same category as LF where I need more time to form an opinion.
I swear deb and cab are the same person ;)
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***EDIT TO ADD***
I guess with 10 mins to go, I will tie it up. I guess should I die my top three suspects are:
scrubs88~ Logic at time seems off or vague.
talan~ Just kinda looking at voting record, a hunch, nothing solid.
cab/deb~ I am kinda hurt by deb's vote for me, especially with two wolves left. I could understand if I were the "last wolf". I am kinda missing the whole cab theories/hunt. Not that it makes her wolfish, but still like to see it.
cat~ kinda pops out at me, but in the same category as LF where I need more time to form an opinion.
I swear deb and cab are the same person ;)
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