The Werewolf Game
Game #2613: A Post Thanksgiving Game!
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This game finished in 7 rounds.
RFM Thank you!
Once again, you've shot a human. Mathgeek was all human. Try again!
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Once again, you've shot a human. Mathgeek was all human. Try again!
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Curious about a possible Ank/Determined combination
Let me take a look back at 2nd round, again assuming Math wasnt wolf do to Evita being eaten (and not a Math voter, but Snow should be able to verify)
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Let me take a look back at 2nd round, again assuming Math wasnt wolf do to Evita being eaten (and not a Math voter, but Snow should be able to verify)
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
*mumbles to herself about Spider*
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
*Doesnt really care*
Voting Ank, not set in stone but a starting point
Ill give more thoughts in a little bit (Ank was a wolf in Har's game #2595) if anyone wants to look for comparison
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Voting Ank, not set in stone but a starting point
Ill give more thoughts in a little bit (Ank was a wolf in Har's game #2595) if anyone wants to look for comparison
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Night did not time out, but it took its sweet time. I believe that either ankitankurddit is a wolf, or is being set up. Don't wanna go condemning him so soon in the round though, so I'll cast a seer-protecting vote for GA for the time being.
deb
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deb
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Hmm. Intererting night kill. Especially since it seemed that there seemed to be some growing suspicions on her last round. I am not sure where my vote is going yet. But it is early in the round so i will wait and see others opinions on the current situation.
I will be back a little later. In the round.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
I will be back a little later. In the round.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
Spider! There's no need to be rude to me... Your *Doesnt really care* comment, in my opinion, was uncalled for. You have no idea what my *mumbles* was about.
Not cool.
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
Not cool.
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
Not really interested in getting sidetracked by this, but considering some of the things you say to GA, I dont think "I dont care that you suspect me" is really anything to get bent out of shape about. My point was if you insist on stating suspicouns without reasons Im not really gonna worry about it very much.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can say with almost 99% certainty Ankit isn't a wolf. When he's a wolf, he "contributes" to the game much more. Gets ideas floating around. Makes accusations, etc. No such activity here at all. It's just Ankit. Determined, however, I could go for and that's where my vote lands. She sounded more human toward the end, there, but I'm not recovered from the first half of her round, last round.
Did figure something out, though, about how I approach WW. In games like this, it's impossible not to separate the members into more and less "elite" or mental groupings. Players like Spider, Markus, GA... are in the strong mental group. It's always likely that at least one of these players will be a wolf and they're the ones who are generally more difficult to pinpoint or, at least, to shoot. My subconscious strategy is to figure out which one of these players is the wolf; the others can either be found out along the way or reasoned by logic once the "stronger" one is taken out.
Anyway. It's not intrinsically relevant to this game. Maybe shouldn't have gotten into it, but there it is.
Spider:
^
sorry, ICU, he's right. Communicate with us, here, and we'll try to work something out.
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Did figure something out, though, about how I approach WW. In games like this, it's impossible not to separate the members into more and less "elite" or mental groupings. Players like Spider, Markus, GA... are in the strong mental group. It's always likely that at least one of these players will be a wolf and they're the ones who are generally more difficult to pinpoint or, at least, to shoot. My subconscious strategy is to figure out which one of these players is the wolf; the others can either be found out along the way or reasoned by logic once the "stronger" one is taken out.
Anyway. It's not intrinsically relevant to this game. Maybe shouldn't have gotten into it, but there it is.
Spider:
My point was if you insist on stating suspicouns without reasons Im not really gonna worry about it very much.
^
sorry, ICU, he's right. Communicate with us, here, and we'll try to work something out.
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Haha I just split up the players the same way a minute ago..dont worry you were on the right side (;
but more of a heavy/reasoned contribution vs random contribution grouping. I like to shoot the people in the random group first for several reasons. A) The seers traditionally divine stronger active players, so let the seer tell you for certain what they are, or at least dont hurry to shoot a possibly seer cleared human. B) They usually give you more to judge them on, especially as the rounds mount. C) Id rather lose to players who try than those who hide
I find it hard to beleive you can be 99% certain of Ank not being a wolf....what is your experience with him as one?!?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
but more of a heavy/reasoned contribution vs random contribution grouping. I like to shoot the people in the random group first for several reasons. A) The seers traditionally divine stronger active players, so let the seer tell you for certain what they are, or at least dont hurry to shoot a possibly seer cleared human. B) They usually give you more to judge them on, especially as the rounds mount. C) Id rather lose to players who try than those who hide
I find it hard to beleive you can be 99% certain of Ank not being a wolf....what is your experience with him as one?!?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Yeah...that ain't gonna happen. Definitely not now. Some of you don't know how I do this game. And I really don't if you ever figure it out. Point being:
Continue with rambling on... Some day, hopefully, you'll sit back and LISTEN.
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
Continue with rambling on... Some day, hopefully, you'll sit back and LISTEN.
ICUB42: I as in me. C is to notice. U, not you, someone else. B for be. 4 is for fore. And 2 should be too.
Sorry, ICU, but if you're gonna make us tiptoe around you all game, you're gonna get shot. haha That's just the way it works. Unless you're Seer, you don't deserve special treatment. And if you are, you're not helping yourself at all. We'll do the best we can with what we've got. We can't listen to what's not there.
Dannio. Uhm, as wolf? not much. I've looked on when he was a wolf, never actually played. But I've seen him as Rat in WTB. It's the same every time he's guilty of something. He starts pointing fingers. Every single other, "innocent" case, he goes with the flow, remaining innocuous as a player. His MO isn't hard to grab ahold of. Is the reasoning hard and fast? maybe not, but it's what we have. You got a counterpoint? I'd love to hear it.
Dannio. Uhm, as wolf? not much. I've looked on when he was a wolf, never actually played. But I've seen him as Rat in WTB. It's the same every time he's guilty of something. He starts pointing fingers. Every single other, "innocent" case, he goes with the flow, remaining innocuous as a player. His MO isn't hard to grab ahold of. Is the reasoning hard and fast? maybe not, but it's what we have. You got a counterpoint? I'd love to hear it.
ka-ching wrote:
That's not strictly true. Talking from experience.
Anyway, regardless, I was going to come and declare a suspicion on spider. I remember talking to him about how players supporting/defending you in the game makes it harder to get an unbiased reading on them, and it struck me that that may be what he was trying to achieve when talking about waiting for my opinion. Normally he's so opinionated, so I believe it's unusual for him to specifically wait on other's views, let alone my generally unhelpful ramblings. Although again don't want to go charging in with a vote for an active & skilled player, so will wait to hear what he says, or if he has examples to prove that this behaviour isn't unusual. Fish voting for now.
Incidentally, I love the wolves.
Unless you're Seer, you don't deserve special treatment.
That's not strictly true. Talking from experience.
Anyway, regardless, I was going to come and declare a suspicion on spider. I remember talking to him about how players supporting/defending you in the game makes it harder to get an unbiased reading on them, and it struck me that that may be what he was trying to achieve when talking about waiting for my opinion. Normally he's so opinionated, so I believe it's unusual for him to specifically wait on other's views, let alone my generally unhelpful ramblings. Although again don't want to go charging in with a vote for an active & skilled player, so will wait to hear what he says, or if he has examples to prove that this behaviour isn't unusual. Fish voting for now.
Incidentally, I love the wolves.
i see a lot of rambling but nothing suspicious. Though i do agree that at the moment determined is on my radar and probably my strongest suspect at the moment but with no evidence against him. I will hold off my vote. I am gonna keep a close eye on deter though. Other than that. I dunno.
Stewie.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
Stewie.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
I should be able to find some Smithy, here is one that is somewhat in the mold...I was waiting for Harry but he didnt show haha
well I havet really come across anything else yet Smithy, depends on how far you want me to go back, though I'm quite certain I asked for Harry's opinion on atleast one occasion. In any case, there's a first time for everything, and I like reading well thought out posts, "rambling" or not, it's the only thing that makes the game enjoyable.
Anyway, I think I have been pretty opinionated this game havent I? So although I may have asked for your thoughts, I didnt exxlucde giving my own freely?
leaving work soon and have a busy night till like 900 PM but Im working on it haha
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Shooting Doug could tell us a lot and ICU is typically a good wolf hunter so I am torn......Ill make my gamble in about 30 minutes
no lat minute guidance from Harry...Im flying blind
I decided to sail calmer waters and vote Doug for two reasons, it will tell us more and one other I keep secret for now
no lat minute guidance from Harry...Im flying blind
I decided to sail calmer waters and vote Doug for two reasons, it will tell us more and one other I keep secret for now
well I havet really come across anything else yet Smithy, depends on how far you want me to go back, though I'm quite certain I asked for Harry's opinion on atleast one occasion. In any case, there's a first time for everything, and I like reading well thought out posts, "rambling" or not, it's the only thing that makes the game enjoyable.
Anyway, I think I have been pretty opinionated this game havent I? So although I may have asked for your thoughts, I didnt exxlucde giving my own freely?
leaving work soon and have a busy night till like 900 PM but Im working on it haha
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I have a feeling Smithy is a a wolf.
He is sounding so much more proper this game, and his words seem to be so much more thought through, and so much more carefully picked. It reminds me of the game where he was a wolf with ICUB42 and guamgirl2.
Especially his latest post seems to fit the bill of him as a wolf. It just sounds like he intended for his post this round to sound innocent, ratehr than intending for his post to contribute to the game... I'm having difficulty putting my thoughts into words here!
As for ka-ching...
You have NO idea how many games I have been saying this to ICUB42... She doesn't listen to it. She runs a tight ship.
However, as much as I would love to shoot her right now, I'm not feeling it anymore, and to be honest, she's actually sounding more human-ish. Her disregard for stating reasons are annoying though.
And as for Mathgeek007 being a human... is anyone really surprised?
I am logging in a vote for Smithy. I'm feeling it.
He is sounding so much more proper this game, and his words seem to be so much more thought through, and so much more carefully picked. It reminds me of the game where he was a wolf with ICUB42 and guamgirl2.
Especially his latest post seems to fit the bill of him as a wolf. It just sounds like he intended for his post this round to sound innocent, ratehr than intending for his post to contribute to the game... I'm having difficulty putting my thoughts into words here!
As for ka-ching...
We can't listen to what's not there.
You have NO idea how many games I have been saying this to ICUB42... She doesn't listen to it. She runs a tight ship.
However, as much as I would love to shoot her right now, I'm not feeling it anymore, and to be honest, she's actually sounding more human-ish. Her disregard for stating reasons are annoying though.
And as for Mathgeek007 being a human... is anyone really surprised?
I am logging in a vote for Smithy. I'm feeling it.
Smithy is a wolf when he sounds like a human haha, I didnt quite fell it this time, but Ill keep up the search for the evidence he asked for
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
GreenApples27 wrote:
Will, did I ever tell you how beautiful you are? haha Was thinking the exact same thing. I'll join you on that vote.
Wait.... maybe rather go for determined first? I dunno. I guess it doesn't matter at the moment?
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I have a feeling Smithy is a a wolf.
He is sounding so much more proper this game, and his words seem to be so much more thought through, and so much more carefully picked. It reminds me of the game where he was a wolf with ICUB42 and guamgirl2.
Especially his latest post seems to fit the bill of him as a wolf. It just sounds like he intended for his post this round to sound innocent, ratehr than intending for his post to contribute to the game... I'm having difficulty putting my thoughts into words here!
He is sounding so much more proper this game, and his words seem to be so much more thought through, and so much more carefully picked. It reminds me of the game where he was a wolf with ICUB42 and guamgirl2.
Especially his latest post seems to fit the bill of him as a wolf. It just sounds like he intended for his post this round to sound innocent, ratehr than intending for his post to contribute to the game... I'm having difficulty putting my thoughts into words here!
Will, did I ever tell you how beautiful you are? haha Was thinking the exact same thing. I'll join you on that vote.
Wait.... maybe rather go for determined first? I dunno. I guess it doesn't matter at the moment?
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I don't believe you have told me, ka-ching.
Have I ever told you? I don't beli- oh wait.
If you're wanting a majority on determined instead, you'll need people to help you, because as of now, there are no votes on determined11, yet her name is being thrown around everywhere.
chunnie voted for GreenApples27
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
ICUB42 voted for ICUB42
ka-ching voted for Smithy
Smithy voted for Markus
The_Spider voted for ankitankurddit
Have I ever told you? I don't beli- oh wait.
If you're wanting a majority on determined instead, you'll need people to help you, because as of now, there are no votes on determined11, yet her name is being thrown around everywhere.
chunnie voted for GreenApples27
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
ICUB42 voted for ICUB42
ka-ching voted for Smithy
Smithy voted for Markus
The_Spider voted for ankitankurddit
It is; I checked to see if Stewie joined my vote for her, but no dice. So might as well fly with a Smithy vote for now.
And I saw what you did there.
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And I saw what you did there.
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Oh, how cruel this world can be, where lexical dexterity represents not pillars of wisdom and learnedness, but a lamentable state of supposed deception, corruption, a vulgar state of psychopathy; a world in which one's own wealth of verbosity achieves not the admiration of others, only one's bitter demise.
Seriously, though, I construct a reasoned argument and request a considered reply (which, bless him, Spider is willing to give), and that makes me suspicious? Seems a dangerous line of reasoning to implement.
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Seriously, though, I construct a reasoned argument and request a considered reply (which, bless him, Spider is willing to give), and that makes me suspicious? Seems a dangerous line of reasoning to implement.
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YOUR MOM SMITHY
for the record, beware, round 3 is the round where wolves start to suspect eachother...right GA?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
for the record, beware, round 3 is the round where wolves start to suspect eachother...right GA?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Good Lord, now look who's using the guilt trip tack. Ah, Smithy, forgive us our grievances; we merely wish to uproot the tyrannical wickedness of the impostors among us. If the provenance of our unsettling indeed be detected in you, then with rueful drear shall we insistently remove your unruly presence from this convention of fellowship.
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No doubt that someone could easily have wanted to know about The_Spider's actions, and they could be a human, but I was just basing this off my experience with you, and the tone of the paragraph which you typed. It brought me back to that stated game, and I was not the only one who felt that it was off, so it wasn't completely ridiculous of me to think this.
You know how I am in these games... I do get a bit stuck on people sometimes. I am going to ride this out, because I have a feeling I might be right. Don't fret, it takes more than two people to shoot someone in this group, Smithy. I haven't blacklisted you... quite yet.
EDIT: Why, yes it is, Dan. But I don't have much experience in that...
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You know how I am in these games... I do get a bit stuck on people sometimes. I am going to ride this out, because I have a feeling I might be right. Don't fret, it takes more than two people to shoot someone in this group, Smithy. I haven't blacklisted you... quite yet.
EDIT: Why, yes it is, Dan. But I don't have much experience in that...
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The_Spider wrote:
Alright, you win this round...
I just... I don't know, comparing to past rounds is fine, but this seems like one of the silliest reasons I've ever been suspected (other than the seven million times in a row where I was suspected for varying activity levels). How do I even defend myself against charges of "you're a wolf because you're thinking too much"?
YOUR MOM SMITHY
Alright, you win this round...
I just... I don't know, comparing to past rounds is fine, but this seems like one of the silliest reasons I've ever been suspected (other than the seven million times in a row where I was suspected for varying activity levels). How do I even defend myself against charges of "you're a wolf because you're thinking too much"?
I don't see how it's a silly reason if it can be connected to similar playing styles of yours as a wolf? Do you think that post should've made you seem human, Smithy? Was that your intention? Because, to me, it felt like it indeed was your intention to make it sound like you're a human. And that isn't very human-ish, is it?
Well, the answer isn't to overcompensate and stop thinking. o.o That much is true. I'm not even sure how you can "defend" that one. haha This kind of suspicion is difficult in that it's somewhat intangible. The only way to counteract it would be to sound normal. haha
Hope that helps you. ^.^
Hope that helps you. ^.^
GreenApples27 wrote:
It's a silly reason because you seem to be commenting on my prose, rather than the content of what I'm actually saying. To imply that I would write more formally as a wolf, or should put less thought in as a human, is downright silly.
I don't see how it's a silly reason if it can be connected to similar playing styles of yours as a wolf? Do you think that post should've made you seem human, Smithy? Was that your intention? Because, to me, it felt like it indeed was your intention to make it sound like you're a human. And that isn't very human-ish, is it?
It's a silly reason because you seem to be commenting on my prose, rather than the content of what I'm actually saying. To imply that I would write more formally as a wolf, or should put less thought in as a human, is downright silly.
It's not that you contribute less thought as a human. It's that, as a wolf, you portray it more dramatically, more flamboyantly. It's a critique of your tone, rather than the content. There are certain rules you can play by to justify a shot. That's fine. Those would be the actions, movements, positions made and taken in the game. But I don't think we can entirely rule out the method of presentation as a factor by any means.
Im gonna review Smithy's game, but my initial inclination does not aline with Ching and Green. Smithy has a 'wolf' tone per se, but I dont think its quite what you guys are saying. From my experience, he is more diplomatic, more neutral, kind of inoffensive in some ways. There was one 'red flag' moment, but let me go through the game and get back to yous
I reread the game.....suspicoun of Smithy moved up a bit...but not ready to vote for him, I need a human game of him to compare to cause all my recetn memories of him are wolf games
2 inactives eaten (sorry Evi you pretty inactive in the grand scheme of things) which is a Smithy/Markus calling card. Smithy's fish vote for Markus, as opposed to Deb, might be the 3rd round Wolf vs Wolf thing...but Im sort of just stream of consciousning now haha
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I reread the game.....suspicoun of Smithy moved up a bit...but not ready to vote for him, I need a human game of him to compare to cause all my recetn memories of him are wolf games
2 inactives eaten (sorry Evi you pretty inactive in the grand scheme of things) which is a Smithy/Markus calling card. Smithy's fish vote for Markus, as opposed to Deb, might be the 3rd round Wolf vs Wolf thing...but Im sort of just stream of consciousning now haha
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
this is a good game, because it's really challenging. : )
again I am at a loss of who to suspect.
though I'm still getting the feeling GA is human.. so, I'm leaning towards going with his opinion and voting smithy.
but, will hold off on voting for now.
again I am at a loss of who to suspect.
though I'm still getting the feeling GA is human.. so, I'm leaning towards going with his opinion and voting smithy.
but, will hold off on voting for now.
If I could post a .gif of me shaking my head in disbelief, I would.
Thank you again Spider for at least having good reasons for your incorrect conclusion. (I will happily admit that I always eat inactives in order to help obscure the heroes performing that deed this game.)
Thank you again Spider for at least having good reasons for your incorrect conclusion. (I will happily admit that I always eat inactives in order to help obscure the heroes performing that deed this game.)
Haha I like that....Im probly done for the night, but that's a unique and solid defense haha
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I don't know. I have read through all the posts, and I honestly believe that spid and smithy are both human. Of course I could always be wrong but I am just not getting the wolf vibes from either player. In fact, do you know what. I am going to go with my initial instinct and vote deter. I mean I know how invaluable both spider and smithy can be (when human), I have not played enough with determined to get his play style.
But I think the best option right now is deter. Thats my opinion anyway.
Stew.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
But I think the best option right now is deter. Thats my opinion anyway.
Stew.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
It's not even 6 hours into the round. What the heck is all that? ^
I can't read all of that right now. Need to sleep. Really badly. Will check back in first thing in the morning.
Oh, and something is wrong here. Ctrl+F found no mention of my name, except in a voting list. I know I've tended to go MIA in games lately, but still. I don't think I've ever gone this long without being "suspected" by at least one person. I don't know if I should be happy or disappointed. Anyway, carry on. Don't mind me.
Goodnight!
I can't read all of that right now. Need to sleep. Really badly. Will check back in first thing in the morning.
Oh, and something is wrong here. Ctrl+F found no mention of my name, except in a voting list. I know I've tended to go MIA in games lately, but still. I don't think I've ever gone this long without being "suspected" by at least one person. I don't know if I should be happy or disappointed. Anyway, carry on. Don't mind me.
Goodnight!
I SUSPECT CHUNNIE. (not really)
Happy?
Holding off voting always seems strange. It makes me feel uneasy (and this is genuine, Dan don't try tell me it's not... ) that someone is going to do a blitz, like Harry did to me that one game.
However, we are only 6 hours into the round. So someone's going to be hard pressed to do a blitz right now!
But as long as everyone's voting, it's always nicer and more comforting, to know at least a little bit of where the round is heading...
So, determined, I would prefer if you didn't hold off voting. Like, I definitely don't want you to end the round or anything (not that it's possible for you to do right now), but putting in a vote would be preferential.
Happy?
Holding off voting always seems strange. It makes me feel uneasy (and this is genuine, Dan don't try tell me it's not... ) that someone is going to do a blitz, like Harry did to me that one game.
However, we are only 6 hours into the round. So someone's going to be hard pressed to do a blitz right now!
But as long as everyone's voting, it's always nicer and more comforting, to know at least a little bit of where the round is heading...
So, determined, I would prefer if you didn't hold off voting. Like, I definitely don't want you to end the round or anything (not that it's possible for you to do right now), but putting in a vote would be preferential.
hey
i am a little uncomfortable with the werewolf game playing style snobbery...just saying not everyone plays the same way and belittling doesn't help but get feelings hurt
not getting much from this round but a bunch of blah blah but then it could be me, going to go back in previous rounds
4wheels voted for chunnie
ankitankurddit voted for Markus
chunnie voted for Longhorn_fan
debc1 voted for determined11
determined11 voted for debc1
Evita voted for 4wheels
GreenApples27 voted for Longhorn_fan
ICUB42 voted for GreenApples27
ka-ching voted for 4wheels
Markus voted for StewieGriffin
Mathgeek007 voted for 4wheels
Smithy voted for debc1
StewieGriffin voted for 4wheels
The_Spider voted for Longhorn_fan
ankitankurddit voted for GreenApples27
chunnie voted for ankitankurddit
debc1 voted for Mathgeek007
determined11 voted for Mathgeek007
Evita voted for StewieGriffin
GreenApples27 voted for ankitankurddit
ICUB42 voted for GreenApples27
ka-ching voted for Mathgeek007
Markus voted for ankitankurddit
Mathgeek007 voted for StewieGriffin
Smithy voted for debc1
StewieGriffin voted for debc1
The_Spider voted for Mathgeek007
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i think i am going for spider this round...why because but mainly because of the comment about one of the wolves is a nice guy or something to that effect
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i am a little uncomfortable with the werewolf game playing style snobbery...just saying not everyone plays the same way and belittling doesn't help but get feelings hurt
not getting much from this round but a bunch of blah blah but then it could be me, going to go back in previous rounds
4wheels voted for chunnie
ankitankurddit voted for Markus
chunnie voted for Longhorn_fan
debc1 voted for determined11
determined11 voted for debc1
Evita voted for 4wheels
GreenApples27 voted for Longhorn_fan
ICUB42 voted for GreenApples27
ka-ching voted for 4wheels
Markus voted for StewieGriffin
Mathgeek007 voted for 4wheels
Smithy voted for debc1
StewieGriffin voted for 4wheels
The_Spider voted for Longhorn_fan
ankitankurddit voted for GreenApples27
chunnie voted for ankitankurddit
debc1 voted for Mathgeek007
determined11 voted for Mathgeek007
Evita voted for StewieGriffin
GreenApples27 voted for ankitankurddit
ICUB42 voted for GreenApples27
ka-ching voted for Mathgeek007
Markus voted for ankitankurddit
Mathgeek007 voted for StewieGriffin
Smithy voted for debc1
StewieGriffin voted for debc1
The_Spider voted for Mathgeek007
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i think i am going for spider this round...why because but mainly because of the comment about one of the wolves is a nice guy or something to that effect
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Who do you feel has been a bit "snobbish", debc1?
Oh wait, are you talking about us being "snobbish" towards ICUB42? We're not doubting she's a great player, we're just saying the the absence of a reason does not qualify as a reason to vote someone. It is just getting a teeny bit tedious having to just *trust* that whoever ICUB42 says is a wolf, is, since we have no idea how she came to the conclusion...
But I do agree that playing nice is the best option, and I'm sorry ICUB42 if you felt insulted by you. You know you and I are more of a jokey argument relationship anyway...
I guess everyone just wants to get down to business, and it's difficult when there's no communication.
Thanks for the voting lists, though.
Oh wait, are you talking about us being "snobbish" towards ICUB42? We're not doubting she's a great player, we're just saying the the absence of a reason does not qualify as a reason to vote someone. It is just getting a teeny bit tedious having to just *trust* that whoever ICUB42 says is a wolf, is, since we have no idea how she came to the conclusion...
But I do agree that playing nice is the best option, and I'm sorry ICUB42 if you felt insulted by you. You know you and I are more of a jokey argument relationship anyway...
I guess everyone just wants to get down to business, and it's difficult when there's no communication.
Thanks for the voting lists, though.
sigh spider you have my wolf play down wrong, I dont eat inactives because that would sell me out, I just eat randomly
I would much rather shoot an inactive and in this case right now I have just cause, it uses log in times but I dont feel like coming up with a half-butted excuse
ank doesnt get on till late in the night/early morning, (at least what I know of him) I was feeling this a bit last round but I decided to wait another round before this happened, and it seems that whoever the wolves are they are deciding to get rid of inactives, suggesting that we have a cast list of active wolves, they could be using the eating of inactives to make us focus on each other, but night isnt timing out, which suggest a wolf is logging in late to cast their votes...I dont see any of the people in this game waiting for the night to end, course there are a few players im not that familular with but I think I know enough to know that they would end nights early, (seeing as everyone logs on once a day at least so there really isnt any inactive cover) however it has been dragging on a bit which suggests a wolf that cant log on with the rest of the wolves
thats why I'm voting, yet again for Ank
btw I know my play is a little different this round, but I hate getting eaten early in these games so I decided to act a little wacky so I would have some of a chance to survive haha, but round three is all seriousness
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
I would much rather shoot an inactive and in this case right now I have just cause, it uses log in times but I dont feel like coming up with a half-butted excuse
ank doesnt get on till late in the night/early morning, (at least what I know of him) I was feeling this a bit last round but I decided to wait another round before this happened, and it seems that whoever the wolves are they are deciding to get rid of inactives, suggesting that we have a cast list of active wolves, they could be using the eating of inactives to make us focus on each other, but night isnt timing out, which suggest a wolf is logging in late to cast their votes...I dont see any of the people in this game waiting for the night to end, course there are a few players im not that familular with but I think I know enough to know that they would end nights early, (seeing as everyone logs on once a day at least so there really isnt any inactive cover) however it has been dragging on a bit which suggests a wolf that cant log on with the rest of the wolves
thats why I'm voting, yet again for Ank
btw I know my play is a little different this round, but I hate getting eaten early in these games so I decided to act a little wacky so I would have some of a chance to survive haha, but round three is all seriousness
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
yes apples that was what i was talking about and in general about everyone, sometimes i give a reason and sometimes i don't, doesn't mean i am not involved in the game
and i agree that we shouldn't blindly follow anyone's vote, i like to go my own way alot of the time, and no i am not as chatty as i use to be, of course my comments are usually off topic, but thats the way i roll
so if you want something out of me ask(i figure that no one reads most of my posts anyway)
and your welcome, but my voting list isn't as pretty and concise as cab's
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and i agree that we shouldn't blindly follow anyone's vote, i like to go my own way alot of the time, and no i am not as chatty as i use to be, of course my comments are usually off topic, but thats the way i roll
so if you want something out of me ask(i figure that no one reads most of my posts anyway)
and your welcome, but my voting list isn't as pretty and concise as cab's
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I dont really agree with you assessment of the whole 'rudeness' thing but its not important, and I dont see what's wrong with discussing/critcizing playing methods, provided its done in a reasonably resepctable manner (not to say I am flawless about doing this myself). I dont think Smithy is the best vote at this point and I feel better about Markus. Id contemplate a swtch to Determined (even though her being a wolf sort of hinges on Ank being a wolf), no one else really seems like a good candidate to me right now.
Markus, would you rather I HAVE your wolf play figured out? haha
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Markus, would you rather I HAVE your wolf play figured out? haha
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
not really spider though maybe people would stop shooting me as a human if you did xD
and I'm not feeling the smithy vote either, though he is a player that you have to get lucky to get him when he is a wolf, he is one of the few people that I cant figure out.
I feel much better bout the ank vote for my reasons stated before, I actually think the smithy vote is a bit random atm
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
and I'm not feeling the smithy vote either, though he is a player that you have to get lucky to get him when he is a wolf, he is one of the few people that I cant figure out.
I feel much better bout the ank vote for my reasons stated before, I actually think the smithy vote is a bit random atm
Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
spider if you are referring to my post, i never mentioned "rudeness" i said snobbery (if you read my post) i mean that in playing styles, ie the only good and worthy players are "mentally analytical reasoned" players, that is snobbery
and just because you disagree doesn't mean its not important
and if you were not referring to my post then i shall quote the late great roseann roseanna danna "nevermind"
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and just because you disagree doesn't mean its not important
and if you were not referring to my post then i shall quote the late great roseann roseanna danna "nevermind"
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I dont know what to tell you Deb, other then I couldnt disagree more with your entire approach to this issue and the game in general, . And I said it wasnt important because its not something that has to take precedent in the game thread at this time, your assumption that it had anything to do with my disagreeing is telling of the preconceived notion you had toward my mindset.
Anyway, this IS a measured response from me, I'm not looking to continue this discussion at this time
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Anyway, this IS a measured response from me, I'm not looking to continue this discussion at this time
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
debc1 wrote:
If you're referring to any of the things I said, I wasn't trying to say everyone should take the same style of approach to me, but that everyone should take some approach - too often players are content to not really contribute as humans, which I think is a problem, and I would much rather hear everyone's thoughts on the game more frequently, whether they be "mentally analytical" reasoning, hunches or "feelings", or whatever else. Even if a theory is wrong or inconsequential, any discussion helps, and makes the game more entertaining. It was not my intention to offend, so apologies if I did.
Regarding Ching and Apples' "theory" of earlier, surely it's more likely that the tone of my posts reflect my current mood, and not my ID in this game, as evidenced by the change in tone as I got frustrated with your suspicions, with no accompanying change in ID? Likewise, I'm sure if you checked my forum posts you would see the same variety in tone, and your reasoning seems to be based on only one past game, when I have been a wolf many times, indicating it is not a wolf trait of mine but some other external influence.
I will try to say no more on the matter, for I fear I may be going on a bit...
I will vote Apples, I stated my suspicions of him last round and he didn't really do much to allay those suspicions, and then this round comes after me with some reasoning that seems to be clutching at straws.
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spider if you are referring to my post, i never mentioned "rudeness" i said snobbery (if you read my post) i mean that in playing styles, ie the only good and worthy players are "mentally analytical reasoned" players, that is snobbery
If you're referring to any of the things I said, I wasn't trying to say everyone should take the same style of approach to me, but that everyone should take some approach - too often players are content to not really contribute as humans, which I think is a problem, and I would much rather hear everyone's thoughts on the game more frequently, whether they be "mentally analytical" reasoning, hunches or "feelings", or whatever else. Even if a theory is wrong or inconsequential, any discussion helps, and makes the game more entertaining. It was not my intention to offend, so apologies if I did.
Regarding Ching and Apples' "theory" of earlier, surely it's more likely that the tone of my posts reflect my current mood, and not my ID in this game, as evidenced by the change in tone as I got frustrated with your suspicions, with no accompanying change in ID? Likewise, I'm sure if you checked my forum posts you would see the same variety in tone, and your reasoning seems to be based on only one past game, when I have been a wolf many times, indicating it is not a wolf trait of mine but some other external influence.
I will try to say no more on the matter, for I fear I may be going on a bit...
I will vote Apples, I stated my suspicions of him last round and he didn't really do much to allay those suspicions, and then this round comes after me with some reasoning that seems to be clutching at straws.
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Any chance we can rally around a Determined or Ank votes?
The three way tie shouldnt be Me, Smithy, and G (the three most active players) I think both of you are human and the Holy Crusaders are voting me for no stated reason. I almost switched my vote to Deb last round because I knew she could senselessly shoot me..Chances are of one us three was divined you guys know.
Ching, you want to go on Determined with me...but Id much rather you go for Ank.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The three way tie shouldnt be Me, Smithy, and G (the three most active players) I think both of you are human and the Holy Crusaders are voting me for no stated reason. I almost switched my vote to Deb last round because I knew she could senselessly shoot me..Chances are of one us three was divined you guys know.
Ching, you want to go on Determined with me...but Id much rather you go for Ank.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think round 3 is far enough to stop letting people off based on reputation/activity level. I'm keeping my vote on GA, unless someone provides good reason to vote either determined or Ank. I'm still a little suspicious of you but not enough at the moment to throw you into a clear majority.
Must find a good place to start.
About Markus... really not sure. I think he's been bored in the past few days and fills his time posting in WW and the PFs and such. haha No, mostly kidding, but nobody's ever sure with Markus. All we know for certain is that he gets mad as a hatter when he gets killed. So those of us who prefer not to endure the kicking and screaming generally preserve him. Not sure if he's wolf or not. We've only got so many rounds left to give some of these guys room to breathe, but yeah, I think we should give him a chance still. He's oddly conservative for Markus right now. The only thing I plan to do with that fact is stick it in my pocket for later.
Smithy. It's not a theory, it's an inkling. haha There's a difference. Your mood does a lot to affect your words, absolutely, but your mood is also affected by your position in the game. (i.e. your identity?) Anyway, that's a weak point and all there is to say is that you sometimes can't help certain habits when you're nervous. The fact that not only I but Green, too, picked up on this was helpful. haha Of course, your suspicion of Green would turn that on its ear, as well.
Logic is a key tool in this game, but the bottom line is, do you disregard the usefulness of intuition, especially when it doesn't contradict perceived logic?
I'll look back at the rest of the game and look at Ankit's posts. Bear with me for one or two more minutes, here. I could be persuaded, but I'm most definitely not feeling it as of right now. You know I'd rather vote determined.
All right, Dannio, I'll come alongside. Ankit's only post in Round 2 might be borderline suspicious. I don't see too much wrong with it, but I'll follow you on this one. What sells me is the information knowing his identity will give us.
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About Markus... really not sure. I think he's been bored in the past few days and fills his time posting in WW and the PFs and such. haha No, mostly kidding, but nobody's ever sure with Markus. All we know for certain is that he gets mad as a hatter when he gets killed. So those of us who prefer not to endure the kicking and screaming generally preserve him. Not sure if he's wolf or not. We've only got so many rounds left to give some of these guys room to breathe, but yeah, I think we should give him a chance still. He's oddly conservative for Markus right now. The only thing I plan to do with that fact is stick it in my pocket for later.
Smithy. It's not a theory, it's an inkling. haha There's a difference. Your mood does a lot to affect your words, absolutely, but your mood is also affected by your position in the game. (i.e. your identity?) Anyway, that's a weak point and all there is to say is that you sometimes can't help certain habits when you're nervous. The fact that not only I but Green, too, picked up on this was helpful. haha Of course, your suspicion of Green would turn that on its ear, as well.
Logic is a key tool in this game, but the bottom line is, do you disregard the usefulness of intuition, especially when it doesn't contradict perceived logic?
I'll look back at the rest of the game and look at Ankit's posts. Bear with me for one or two more minutes, here. I could be persuaded, but I'm most definitely not feeling it as of right now. You know I'd rather vote determined.
All right, Dannio, I'll come alongside. Ankit's only post in Round 2 might be borderline suspicious. I don't see too much wrong with it, but I'll follow you on this one. What sells me is the information knowing his identity will give us.
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I think a caught a key post because I do "LISTEN" (definitly better than some) that Im betting only the wolves have caught to, we'll see
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
My approach to the game to use logic, not intuition, therefore I approach the game in exactly the same way as human or wolf - my role does not affect my "mood" at all. And this intuition does go against perceived logic - as I mentioned, this supposed wolf trait was apparently only to be found in one of my many games as a wolf, hardly a convincing proportion.
Haha not just that game. The game we were wolves together in, too. That was when I first noticed the tendency, actually.
Ironically, I put much less thought into that game as I lost enthusiasm for it after "the incident".
It's impossible not to play differently as a wolf or human. You cant turn off the subconscious part of your brain that knows who the wolves are, also, you are trying to get humans and not wovles shot, so your play has to be somewhat different. Intuition might not be the right word, but people have tells, being a good wolf hunter involves finding those tells
chunnie voted for GreenApples27
debc1 voted for The_Spider
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
ICUB42 voted for The_Spider
ka-ching voted for ankitankurddit
Markus voted for ankitankurddit
Smithy voted for GreenApples27
StewieGriffin voted for determined11
The_Spider voted for ankitankurddit
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
chunnie voted for GreenApples27
debc1 voted for The_Spider
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
ICUB42 voted for The_Spider
ka-ching voted for ankitankurddit
Markus voted for ankitankurddit
Smithy voted for GreenApples27
StewieGriffin voted for determined11
The_Spider voted for ankitankurddit
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
This isn't what's happening here though Spider. You were more accurate when you mentioned me being more diplomatic - as a wolf, you know everyone's ID, and so I try to hard to cover up that knowledge by being too neutral. That's something that has given me away a few times. This on the other hand is about the tone of the message, not the structure of arguments.
Sorry for being late!!
I was stuck into something and also the time-zone problems to some extent!!
I cannot think much as of now, but I vote Spider, because Spider voted me!!
Regards.
I was stuck into something and also the time-zone problems to some extent!!
I cannot think much as of now, but I vote Spider, because Spider voted me!!
Regards.
Chunnie, Stewie...little help?
I have three votes on me in round 3, and the only reason given is I jokingly said one of the wolves was a swell guy
So then what would you do if I voted Green Ankit? Dont really want to vote Green unless its my only option
Ching I dont know how far you trust me, but I think you know I really am human....who would you be willing to vote for if it comes down to it, Green? I cant count on Stewie being here even though Id expect him to help me
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I have three votes on me in round 3, and the only reason given is I jokingly said one of the wolves was a swell guy
So then what would you do if I voted Green Ankit? Dont really want to vote Green unless its my only option
Ching I dont know how far you trust me, but I think you know I really am human....who would you be willing to vote for if it comes down to it, Green? I cant count on Stewie being here even though Id expect him to help me
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Just posting to say that I'm here. Now I gotta go read all that ^ . Thanks a lot.
Im still up for a determined swing?
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Yeah.I dunno what to do. I am already voting determined. I would rather shoot determined. He has been retalitively quiet. Haven't heard from him this round. Not just that, but despite everything I have read I just don't find any clear cut suspicions. I am not getting the wolf vibes as I said before from either Dan or smithy. I am somewhat certain that ka is a human.
But other than that I don't know. All I do know is that deter is not helping by being inactive.
Stewie.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
But other than that I don't know. All I do know is that deter is not helping by being inactive.
Stewie.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
Determined is a longshot at this point, just help me, your feelings about me are correct, help me please
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Dannio! What's with all the yo-yoing? Why Green? And I thought you wanted Ankit's ID before deciding on determined.
Oh, right. You have three votes. Gah. Uhm, I wanna save you. Let's do this, then? Chunnie, chime in here and let's see where you're at. Maybe we can keep the Ankit idea alive. Or perhaps determined. Green... augh, Green is much more of a stretch. I don't know if I would.
Chunnie, kinda waiting for you, here.
Oh, right. You have three votes. Gah. Uhm, I wanna save you. Let's do this, then? Chunnie, chime in here and let's see where you're at. Maybe we can keep the Ankit idea alive. Or perhaps determined. Green... augh, Green is much more of a stretch. I don't know if I would.
Chunnie, kinda waiting for you, here.
Id go Determined or Ank, and Green only then to save myself, I wish Stewie would be on standby but he tends to vanish after his posts and I need his help here
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Chunnie might be your only hope, especially if we're going to avoid shooting Green. If worse comes to worse.... oh man, I can't even... chunnie help. haha
Ching, I'm not sure I like how easily you went from "almost 99% certainty Ankit isn't a wolf" to bending and voting him to try to help out Spider. I know you guys know each other well, but I don't know if I should trust either of you.
Ankit could easily be a wolf, but it is also very likely that he is being set up. However, I think if we keep him in the game for the time being and take someone else out, his "activity" patterns could tell us whether or not he is in fact a wolf later on.
It seems to me that one or more of you (Smithy, Spider, Ching, GA) is playing games with us.
Smithy has seemed a bit "different", but his "mood" explanation is more likely than him being a wolf imo.
I'm still a little iffy about GA, but he's seemed to calm down a lot this round, so I'm not as suspicious of him now.
I am keeping close eyes on Spider and Ching, but I'll bite this one time, only because determined has not helped herself.
Changing my vote to determined. Spider, you owe me one.
Ankit could easily be a wolf, but it is also very likely that he is being set up. However, I think if we keep him in the game for the time being and take someone else out, his "activity" patterns could tell us whether or not he is in fact a wolf later on.
It seems to me that one or more of you (Smithy, Spider, Ching, GA) is playing games with us.
Smithy has seemed a bit "different", but his "mood" explanation is more likely than him being a wolf imo.
I'm still a little iffy about GA, but he's seemed to calm down a lot this round, so I'm not as suspicious of him now.
I am keeping close eyes on Spider and Ching, but I'll bite this one time, only because determined has not helped herself.
Changing my vote to determined. Spider, you owe me one.
I hope to pay it in full, Voting Determined
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
dont worry dan. I am not going anywhere.
Yes i am on standby.
Stewie.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
Yes i am on standby.
Stewie.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
Awesome, I cant promise you guys anything other than you saved a human
*hopes determined doesnt make it online* haha
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
*hopes determined doesnt make it online* haha
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Don't mean to be flighty, Chunnie, but I'd always rather keep Spider in the game than Ankit (sorry, Ankit, no offense meant by that).
Probably agree with Chunnie in that one of those four is messing with us all. (Hope to God it's not Spider; I'd hate to be duped twice.)
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Probably agree with Chunnie in that one of those four is messing with us all. (Hope to God it's not Spider; I'd hate to be duped twice.)
Day
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
ankitankurddit voted for The_Spider
chunnie voted for determined11
debc1 voted for The_Spider
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
ICUB42 voted for The_Spider
ka-ching voted for determined11
Markus voted for ankitankurddit
Smithy voted for GreenApples27
StewieGriffin voted for determined11
The_Spider voted for determined11
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet, but give it an hour.
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
ankitankurddit voted for The_Spider
chunnie voted for determined11
debc1 voted for The_Spider
GreenApples27 voted for Smithy
ICUB42 voted for The_Spider
ka-ching voted for determined11
Markus voted for ankitankurddit
Smithy voted for GreenApples27
StewieGriffin voted for determined11
The_Spider voted for determined11
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet, but give it an hour.
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Spider, consider it paid with interest if determined turns out to be a wolf.
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Believe me I have the same prayer out to every God who will listen
so far I only got hold of Forsoth, Assyrian God of Unseasonably Cold Summers ?!
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
so far I only got hold of Forsoth, Assyrian God of Unseasonably Cold Summers ?!
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
For the record if the votes stay like this I will switch to Spider. I don't like the fact that the majority seems to be based on trying to save someone, I don't see any real reason to suspect determined other than that they've been a little quiet. Plus the fact that Spider seems to have no strong opinions on anyone, and is resorting to begging rather than attacking, doesn't seem his normal style to me.
If the votes switch to GA I will be happy, or if someone provides a decent reason to vote determined. More inclined to keep active players obviously but not to the degree of ignoring reasonable suspicions.
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If the votes switch to GA I will be happy, or if someone provides a decent reason to vote determined. More inclined to keep active players obviously but not to the degree of ignoring reasonable suspicions.
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You are truly and profoundly lost Smithy, allow me to take your SMH and quadruple it, I dont have the first clue what you think you are doing (unless Green and Ching thoroughly nailed you). You dont have any reasonable suspicioun at all of me, becuae I asked for your opinion once?! I never/rarely have strong early suspicouns, I work from the other side, clearing humans until the suspects are left standing out. And you know that seer guy...he may have already divined me, same as you, or Green.
What else was I suppose to do, who was I going to attack? I thought you and GA were human as well as Ching. Find me a human game where I attack people early with rare exceptions (Cookies for one) Who is active at this time of the game....its nice of you to show up at the bell and threaten to make a Godawful decision.
You want humans to defend themselves, I offered defense you apparantly didnt listen. What else am I suppose to do but ask for the help of people who have rightly said the ydont suspect me. I don't know what to tell you, you are a wolf or are making one of the worst decisions Ive ever seen you make
Look up Confirmation Bias Smithy, you found some little grain of suspcion on me, and your whole quest has been to interpet everything else about me to confirm your incorrect hypothosis
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
What else was I suppose to do, who was I going to attack? I thought you and GA were human as well as Ching. Find me a human game where I attack people early with rare exceptions (Cookies for one) Who is active at this time of the game....its nice of you to show up at the bell and threaten to make a Godawful decision.
You want humans to defend themselves, I offered defense you apparantly didnt listen. What else am I suppose to do but ask for the help of people who have rightly said the ydont suspect me. I don't know what to tell you, you are a wolf or are making one of the worst decisions Ive ever seen you make
Look up Confirmation Bias Smithy, you found some little grain of suspcion on me, and your whole quest has been to interpet everything else about me to confirm your incorrect hypothosis
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Fire in your belly... That's more like the Spider I know and love.
Voting Determined whilst still grumbling incoherently about GA.
Voting Determined whilst still grumbling incoherently about GA.
The_Spider wrote:
Hold it right there. I said no such thing. In fact, I said the opposite. But, I'm not convinced either way.
My primary reason for going with determined was not to save you. It's two-fold really.
1. determined chose not to vote, so she in all likelihood is not the seer, and is therefore fair game.
2. She hasn't contributed much. Also, knowing her ID will likely give us some solid ground to stand on.
Logically speaking, she is the best person to shoot this round.
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What else am I suppose to do but ask for the help of people who have rightly said the ydont suspect me.
Hold it right there. I said no such thing. In fact, I said the opposite. But, I'm not convinced either way.
My primary reason for going with determined was not to save you. It's two-fold really.
1. determined chose not to vote, so she in all likelihood is not the seer, and is therefore fair game.
2. She hasn't contributed much. Also, knowing her ID will likely give us some solid ground to stand on.
Logically speaking, she is the best person to shoot this round.
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I got 20 minutes till round end Im just going on edge of my mind here, really I knew you suspected Ank (I was refering to Stew/Ching as the other two who trusted me)
All I can do is hope for Markus to vote Determined, I would have liked to Shoot ank but it came down to this,
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
All I can do is hope for Markus to vote Determined, I would have liked to Shoot ank but it came down to this,
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
hmm , I would much rather shoot ank this round but it looks like that wont happen, I guess I'll seal the majority on determined, not sure why we are shoot her over ank but I'll will honestly say I would rather keep spider in the game then someone who only posts twice a round, sorry if you think thats "snobbish" but I'm an elitist what can I say?
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Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Come on Wolves! I'm dying here! And I think the humans are already dead from waiting!!
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