The Werewolf Game
Game #3287: No Secrets, restarted
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Both Seers have fallen in the same round. The Detective has received his summons to investigate the murder of the human Seer.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Thank you.
Both Seers have fallen in the same round. The Detective has received his summons to investigate the murder of the human Seer.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well, its up to you guys...
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well it's an easy choice for me at least.
Post from Malood deleted on 2018-06-19 04:36:19.
Malood is all in on this strategy then
Seemingly forgetting they need to persuade me in where to vote, or content to play to exploit hooves, the wolves have made themselves clear. I intend to vote malood, but I will make sure my heads on right, hopefully hooves makes it back
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Seemingly forgetting they need to persuade me in where to vote, or content to play to exploit hooves, the wolves have made themselves clear. I intend to vote malood, but I will make sure my heads on right, hopefully hooves makes it back
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Phew Spider holds the gun with the silver bullet now, the other 3 active players know what's up.
For me it's clear that its Smithy and kzmonopoly, but yeah the others have different opinions..
We should really hope for a return of Whooves because when sorted out who is wolf and who is human there is still a 75% chance of winning for the wolves without her.
For me it's clear that its Smithy and kzmonopoly, but yeah the others have different opinions..
We should really hope for a return of Whooves because when sorted out who is wolf and who is human there is still a 75% chance of winning for the wolves without her.
Well...this is simple enough to establish....but I need to see how KZ enters the fray
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think that we should shoot Malood first, since there has been suspicion on her already.
I think that both Smithy and Malood quickly jumping the gun to try to shoot me shows that they're both of the wolves. I'll try to look back at the rounds and see what else I can find.
Don't really want to vote too quickly, I'll wait for everyone else, but my vote is definitely going to Malood, and then smithy.
Ooooooh! Nice!
I think that both Smithy and Malood quickly jumping the gun to try to shoot me shows that they're both of the wolves. I'll try to look back at the rounds and see what else I can find.
Don't really want to vote too quickly, I'll wait for everyone else, but my vote is definitely going to Malood, and then smithy.
Ooooooh! Nice!
(Edit: This post is aimed at spid for obvious reasons. )
I admittedly haven't done much to show I'm human, but kz looked incredibly suspicious early doors. We cleared kz because of the celt eating but in light of current evidence it does make sense, given celt was wrong there probably weren't any strong candidates for seer so they took the opportunity to "clear" kz.
The only thing you mentioned against me is my lack of vote for Putter but as I said that wouldn't have made sense if I was a wolf along with malood. There is no way me joining the vote would have looked suspicious, and I'm not a noob playing "oh geez guys you all voted for a human, you are suspicious and I am not ". I would have just voted putter.
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I admittedly haven't done much to show I'm human, but kz looked incredibly suspicious early doors. We cleared kz because of the celt eating but in light of current evidence it does make sense, given celt was wrong there probably weren't any strong candidates for seer so they took the opportunity to "clear" kz.
The only thing you mentioned against me is my lack of vote for Putter but as I said that wouldn't have made sense if I was a wolf along with malood. There is no way me joining the vote would have looked suspicious, and I'm not a noob playing "oh geez guys you all voted for a human, you are suspicious and I am not ". I would have just voted putter.
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Neither kz or malood have endeared themselves to me this round, I will go through the game again to take s looksee.
Kz voting for harry now is a large black mark against him, I will def give fresh eyes to all the eatings. Will give it as long as possible to see if hooves gets back. If smithy is human, malood/kz are wolves, but why would malood be so quick to abandon the '75 %' strategy. Then again would the wolvrs Smithy/malood, team uo so readily in this situation.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Kz voting for harry now is a large black mark against him, I will def give fresh eyes to all the eatings. Will give it as long as possible to see if hooves gets back. If smithy is human, malood/kz are wolves, but why would malood be so quick to abandon the '75 %' strategy. Then again would the wolvrs Smithy/malood, team uo so readily in this situation.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I forgot that whov was at camp.
Me voting for Harry was just me going with the vote at the time, because I couldn't get on again later. There was 13 hours left so a lot of time to change.
The opposing majority was against Malood, but that happened mostly after I left, so I didn't really use my vote to defend her. I did say she was a human, but again, that was without seer information so I was just going by the feel.
And there was no reason to eat celt even to clear me, since someone who would've probably supported me would be more important and if I was a wolf, I would've tried to seer hunt someone else, instead of celt.
I will vote malood.
Wow, also the wolves have a nice strategy. With me and spider (hopefully) voting one wolf, and the other wolves voting me, it's a 50/50 toss up between who wins since whov isn't here.
Fixed my double post.
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Ooooooh! Nice!
Me voting for Harry was just me going with the vote at the time, because I couldn't get on again later. There was 13 hours left so a lot of time to change.
The opposing majority was against Malood, but that happened mostly after I left, so I didn't really use my vote to defend her. I did say she was a human, but again, that was without seer information so I was just going by the feel.
And there was no reason to eat celt even to clear me, since someone who would've probably supported me would be more important and if I was a wolf, I would've tried to seer hunt someone else, instead of celt.
I will vote malood.
Wow, also the wolves have a nice strategy. With me and spider (hopefully) voting one wolf, and the other wolves voting me, it's a 50/50 toss up between who wins since whov isn't here.
Fixed my double post.
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Ooooooh! Nice!
Post from kzmonopoly deleted on 2018-06-19 21:06:43.
reviewing the game now
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
These updates are mostly for my own indexing of things....
having to decide between which combo makes most sens Smithy/KZ Smithy/Malood Malood/KZ
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round 2 (end voting list)
celtichero voted for Vdog095
Evita voted for Vdog095
HarryPutter voted for Vdog095
kzmonopoly voted for Smithy
Malood voted for mnkgyl
mnkgyl voted for Vdog095
Musicwritergirl voted for StewieGriffin
Skybet voted for Vdog095
Smithy voted for celtichero
StewieGriffin voted for kzmonopoly
The_Spider voted for Vdog095
whoviandeb voted for Vdog095
its kind of funny that ALL three suspects managed to avoid voting for the obvious inactive, and now known human Vdog (as did Stewie)
Smithy has a post that defends KZ, but its a sensible and measured defense, and we're all allowed those.
Round 3
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The Sky eating could point to KZ...but its certainly not a sure thing. His verbiage against KZ is by no means 'sure-footed'. It certainly is a point to consider, but its no smoking gun
The eating of skybet is indeed an interesting event as he was the one most prominent in throwing out accusations. He was basically first accusing me and later kz as well as mnk. My reflex would be to look at mnk and kz now. I got slight vibes with mnk. But then again, it would probably as well be a good move from the wolves to bet on sky if none of these were correct as nobody else made accusations and they had no clue eitherway.
I have little experience with Malood, but this paragraph seems so much like someone inventing something to say. It's very unnatural and jumbled and just comes off disingenuous, but I've learned that often means nothing
KZ posts something....that..I dont know, sounds suspicious, but its KZ, so its worth nothing
KZ, down in votes 3-1, changes to Malood to 'get a counter majority going' He posts this list himself then and there (which i would trust him more if he hadn't...highlighted the potential bus)
celtichero voted for Smithy
Evita voted for kzmonopoly
HarryPutter voted for kzmonopoly
kzmonopoly voted for Malood
Malood voted for mnkgyl
mnkgyl voted for celtichero
Musicwritergirl voted for The_Spider
Smithy voted for Musicwritergirl
StewieGriffin voted for Evita
The_Spider voted for Malood
whoviandeb voted for kzmonopoly
Celt then states...direct quote....
"I don't think this KZ suspicion holds any water whatsoever to be honest.
Interested to see what happens in these final hours of the round."
(i dont even remember who we shot this round, but somehow or another it wasnt Lood or KZ)
Smithy posts
"I'm inclined to trust Putter's judgement with a kz vote but kz's last comment above is legit making me feel bad about that. "
which isnt something partners typically say about each other...but i note...Smithy's final vote is almost useless (Smithy had a track record this game for avoiding making his vote count)
Celt's next post
I have significantly more to lose than gain if KZ is killed.
If he's a wolf, I've jumped straight to the top of the suspect list. Even if he's human, it doesn't really benefit me. I just don't think he's a wolf.
I would've just kept quiet on KZ if I was a wolf. "
Not as 'strong' a seer vibe out of this one, but it is again a rally around KZ being human (though its more protecting himself at this point)
KZ posts a listish type post with a few thoughts, one of them, without provocation, is that Stewie seems human (this does not come off as a wolf move at all in this context).
He then leaves the final vote to chance. If the partnership is KZ/Malood, KZ was rather foolhardy (and lucky ) to leave the wolves to 2 in 3 chance of a loss here. (especially given HIS vote was on Malood, and he would have been 100% justified in taking it off an onto Monkey)
celtichero voted for Smithy
Evita voted for kzmonopoly
HarryPutter voted for Malood
kzmonopoly voted for Malood
Malood voted for mnkgyl
mnkgyl voted for celtichero
Musicwritergirl voted for The_Spider
Smithy voted for Musicwritergirl
StewieGriffin voted for Evita
The_Spider voted for mnkgyl
whoviandeb voted for kzmonopoly
Round 4
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Celt is eaten.....its hard to point to this as anything but a seer hunt based on his KZ commentary (he says nothing else of remote significance during Round 3)...sidenote, Celt's round 3 SPV was on Smithy
This is Evi's ONLY post this round
"I'm gonna leave my spv on malood for now "
There are a lot of little things to pick up on. I put no stock in Smithy's Deb list, as a person of his ability can easily be genuine or fake most of what is posted there. One comment I did pick up on.
KZ
Smithy seems human. Spider still seems human. Stewie is quiet, but this game I'm feeling that he's human. Leaning human on Malood, but could change.
So he would have leaned human on both his wolf partners. That's certainly very possible, but wolves tend to mix in a 'wolf read' at this stage of the game (as it seems more in line with what people expect of you...to have a suspect or two) and they normally don't leave human on all their wolf partners.
Round 5
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
having to decide between which combo makes most sens Smithy/KZ Smithy/Malood Malood/KZ
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round 2 (end voting list)
celtichero voted for Vdog095
Evita voted for Vdog095
HarryPutter voted for Vdog095
kzmonopoly voted for Smithy
Malood voted for mnkgyl
mnkgyl voted for Vdog095
Musicwritergirl voted for StewieGriffin
Skybet voted for Vdog095
Smithy voted for celtichero
StewieGriffin voted for kzmonopoly
The_Spider voted for Vdog095
whoviandeb voted for Vdog095
its kind of funny that ALL three suspects managed to avoid voting for the obvious inactive, and now known human Vdog (as did Stewie)
Smithy has a post that defends KZ, but its a sensible and measured defense, and we're all allowed those.
Round 3
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The Sky eating could point to KZ...but its certainly not a sure thing. His verbiage against KZ is by no means 'sure-footed'. It certainly is a point to consider, but its no smoking gun
The eating of skybet is indeed an interesting event as he was the one most prominent in throwing out accusations. He was basically first accusing me and later kz as well as mnk. My reflex would be to look at mnk and kz now. I got slight vibes with mnk. But then again, it would probably as well be a good move from the wolves to bet on sky if none of these were correct as nobody else made accusations and they had no clue eitherway.
I have little experience with Malood, but this paragraph seems so much like someone inventing something to say. It's very unnatural and jumbled and just comes off disingenuous, but I've learned that often means nothing
KZ posts something....that..I dont know, sounds suspicious, but its KZ, so its worth nothing
KZ, down in votes 3-1, changes to Malood to 'get a counter majority going' He posts this list himself then and there (which i would trust him more if he hadn't...highlighted the potential bus)
celtichero voted for Smithy
Evita voted for kzmonopoly
HarryPutter voted for kzmonopoly
kzmonopoly voted for Malood
Malood voted for mnkgyl
mnkgyl voted for celtichero
Musicwritergirl voted for The_Spider
Smithy voted for Musicwritergirl
StewieGriffin voted for Evita
The_Spider voted for Malood
whoviandeb voted for kzmonopoly
Celt then states...direct quote....
"I don't think this KZ suspicion holds any water whatsoever to be honest.
Interested to see what happens in these final hours of the round."
(i dont even remember who we shot this round, but somehow or another it wasnt Lood or KZ)
Smithy posts
"I'm inclined to trust Putter's judgement with a kz vote but kz's last comment above is legit making me feel bad about that. "
which isnt something partners typically say about each other...but i note...Smithy's final vote is almost useless (Smithy had a track record this game for avoiding making his vote count)
Celt's next post
I have significantly more to lose than gain if KZ is killed.
If he's a wolf, I've jumped straight to the top of the suspect list. Even if he's human, it doesn't really benefit me. I just don't think he's a wolf.
I would've just kept quiet on KZ if I was a wolf. "
Not as 'strong' a seer vibe out of this one, but it is again a rally around KZ being human (though its more protecting himself at this point)
KZ posts a listish type post with a few thoughts, one of them, without provocation, is that Stewie seems human (this does not come off as a wolf move at all in this context).
He then leaves the final vote to chance. If the partnership is KZ/Malood, KZ was rather foolhardy (and lucky ) to leave the wolves to 2 in 3 chance of a loss here. (especially given HIS vote was on Malood, and he would have been 100% justified in taking it off an onto Monkey)
celtichero voted for Smithy
Evita voted for kzmonopoly
HarryPutter voted for Malood
kzmonopoly voted for Malood
Malood voted for mnkgyl
mnkgyl voted for celtichero
Musicwritergirl voted for The_Spider
Smithy voted for Musicwritergirl
StewieGriffin voted for Evita
The_Spider voted for mnkgyl
whoviandeb voted for kzmonopoly
Round 4
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Celt is eaten.....its hard to point to this as anything but a seer hunt based on his KZ commentary (he says nothing else of remote significance during Round 3)...sidenote, Celt's round 3 SPV was on Smithy
This is Evi's ONLY post this round
"I'm gonna leave my spv on malood for now "
There are a lot of little things to pick up on. I put no stock in Smithy's Deb list, as a person of his ability can easily be genuine or fake most of what is posted there. One comment I did pick up on.
KZ
Smithy seems human. Spider still seems human. Stewie is quiet, but this game I'm feeling that he's human. Leaning human on Malood, but could change.
So he would have leaned human on both his wolf partners. That's certainly very possible, but wolves tend to mix in a 'wolf read' at this stage of the game (as it seems more in line with what people expect of you...to have a suspect or two) and they normally don't leave human on all their wolf partners.
Round 5
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
As i said, this was more of a index for my thoughts than a post to discuss. After all is said and done, The Celt eating (after his sole point the previous round being KZ is not a suspect) stands out as the strongest single piece of evidence this game. Evi posts a single line (SPV for Malood) and is eaten. KZ, Lood, and Mnky are all tied at 2 in the 3rd round (Kz has his vote on Malood). KZ can easily switch and save himself AND Malood, without drawing any ire for it. Now this could have been a really daring gamble (feeling it was worth more to score 'bus' points than to get safely to round 4...ftr I think that would be a terrible strategic decision).
So basically, I view KZ/Malood as unpartnerable, and KZ as very likely human based on the Celt eating.
This would make Smithy a better vote than Malood this round, but I will do what tactically must be done. No sense in voting since this round waits on Hooves regardless (unless my vote is a blunder )
Will vote Malood if it comes to it, but Smithy is just as good if not better
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
So basically, I view KZ/Malood as unpartnerable, and KZ as very likely human based on the Celt eating.
This would make Smithy a better vote than Malood this round, but I will do what tactically must be done. No sense in voting since this round waits on Hooves regardless (unless my vote is a blunder )
Will vote Malood if it comes to it, but Smithy is just as good if not better
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
It's still going to be a tie against who wins though.
Ooooooh! Nice!
Ooooooh! Nice!
Yes I realize, im just saying, from my view (someone's without certainty) Smithy is more likely a wolf than Malood (based on ruling out KZ/Lood).
How do you feel about a Smithy vote ;)
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
How do you feel about a Smithy vote ;)
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Sure.
I'll change right now.
Ooooooh! Nice!
I'll change right now.
Ooooooh! Nice!
cool
Ill give it a liiiiiitle bit longer just to mind my ps and qs and give hooves one last chance.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Ill give it a liiiiiitle bit longer just to mind my ps and qs and give hooves one last chance.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Malood was on and didn't post/switch his vote (which he would be estatic to do if he was human as it skirts the tie issue) thus proving smithy/malood are the wolves
Hoping for a win in the flips, or hooves swoops in heorically
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Hoping for a win in the flips, or hooves swoops in heorically
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Unrelated, yes, this is cutting the suspense, but do the profile pictures seem bigger to you?
I have the site at a zoom because the words are regularly tiny so the pictures look gigantic.
Ooooooh! Nice!
I have the site at a zoom because the words are regularly tiny so the pictures look gigantic.
Ooooooh! Nice!
Yes they do
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Excited to see what happens Whooves can really save the day
Ding dong, the wolf is dead.
Also, the avatars look bigger to me as well.
Doom Son of Loki shows one of his many trickster faces. Tell me Lokison, what do you have up your sleeve? --HarriDansker
Also, the avatars look bigger to me as well.
Doom Son of Loki shows one of his many trickster faces. Tell me Lokison, what do you have up your sleeve? --HarriDansker
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