The Werewolf Game
Game #3357: 7 vs 2 vs 1 (Experimental)
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This game finished in 4 rounds.
Your Detective is dead, but your seer & medium is still alive humans!
Someone really needs to check their Role Edit/Addition PM
At least you know if there was a depressed the depressed wasn't lynched (yet)
Also, if you don't know what to say, pick a post and just comment on it, it's a good second step (Then repeat a few times)
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Fake The Disco!
Someone really needs to check their Role Edit/Addition PM
At least you know if there was a depressed the depressed wasn't lynched (yet)
Also, if you don't know what to say, pick a post and just comment on it, it's a good second step (Then repeat a few times)
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Fake The Disco!
cookie for Sky,
I really don't understand the apparently "impulsive" vote for Jem, seems to run very antithetical to Sky's normally methodical/technical approach. There was no real setup for it (he did not allude to any Jem suspicions that I recall at least) and I think, as I argued last round, it was hard to justify in a 10 player game. I'm wrestling with Sky expressing frustration over me being "cleared" by Rove. I would think a wolf wouldn't do something so apparantly curious, but it could be genuine frustration seeping through....I know I was quite frustrated when wheels tried to deflect the humans away from shooting hooves as seer
The HP eating indicates an attempt to get rid of the actives (given the rather...meager strength overall of the remaining field...there is not too much in the way of a wolf victory...naturally depending on exactly who the partnership is)
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I switched to jem because I felt he was being a lot more playful than usual which raised a red flag to me, but I didn't articulate that at the time. And I was just disappointed in the mod because of the comments, nothing more than that. I would hope you would assume that I would put more of an effort to not be so obvious if I were a wolf. I see that as a slight
I'm pretty tired so I'll have more of a think in the morning. I'll cookie for now.
Oh, you never played any of my games before
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I'm pretty tired so I'll have more of a think in the morning. I'll cookie for now.
Oh, you never played any of my games before
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Well then we are even for you thinking I would fight tooth and nail to protect Rose when she surrendered herself
As I alluded to, I don't think you would be so obvious, but I've felt bubbling frustration as a wolf (the wheels/hoove situation I mentioned) sometimes a little can spill through the best defense.
We will have to work hard to clear the bunny, wheels, fun, rose Great Wall.....you guys need to elevate your play for this round.....and this isn't even taking into account whether Jayo will be active or an occasional pop in this game
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
As I alluded to, I don't think you would be so obvious, but I've felt bubbling frustration as a wolf (the wheels/hoove situation I mentioned) sometimes a little can spill through the best defense.
We will have to work hard to clear the bunny, wheels, fun, rose Great Wall.....you guys need to elevate your play for this round.....and this isn't even taking into account whether Jayo will be active or an occasional pop in this game
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I feel this is going to dissolve into a bit of a crapshoot.
Well I did put a warning as the very first thing so...
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Well I did put a warning as the very first thing so...
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
And fair enough
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I will cookie for now
I don't know why everyone formed a majority on jerminy. That seems like a wolf move to me....
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I'm on Braingle far too long, I stay on the computer from dusk to dawn. Playing games and chatting with friends, the novelity of it never ends.
I don't know why everyone formed a majority on jerminy. That seems like a wolf move to me....
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I'm on Braingle far too long, I stay on the computer from dusk to dawn. Playing games and chatting with friends, the novelity of it never ends.
4wheels wrote:
And this seems like a wolfy post to me.
cookie, though not much time in these games, even less so with the set up of the game, I can't see some of the more experienced players missing PMs so that potentially rules out certain involvments I think.
Happy enough to go 4wheels for now.
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Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I will spv for now
I don't know why everyone formed a majority on jerminy. That seems like a wolf move to me....
I don't know why everyone formed a majority on jerminy. That seems like a wolf move to me....
And this seems like a wolfy post to me.
cookie, though not much time in these games, even less so with the set up of the game, I can't see some of the more experienced players missing PMs so that potentially rules out certain involvments I think.
Happy enough to go 4wheels for now.
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Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I have some thoughts on the Harry eating pointing to oddrey or fun, but I want a chance for some initial posts to hit the table
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I voted for funfor1, don't mean to pick on new players. But has not said anything , or i dont think even voted.
ss i am double posting, i did not notice this round,
The_Spider wrote:
I would genuinely like to know why the heck you think the harry eating points to me.
Random cookie for now
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I have some thoughts on the Harry eating pointing to oddrey or fun, but I want a chance for some initial posts to hit the table
I would genuinely like to know why the heck you think the harry eating points to me.
Random cookie for now
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Random cookie for now. I think I might change to wheels though.
I don't know what to say about the eating. Hp does contribute a lot but I don't know.
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If you keep rereading my signature, you'll get really bored of it!
I don't know what to say about the eating. Hp does contribute a lot but I don't know.
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If you keep rereading my signature, you'll get really bored of it!
Post from Rove_Tarts deleted on 2019-11-11 19:32:27.
Sure,
You like to protect new/persecuted players, so I don't think you would eat fun right off the top of. That probably also applies to some degree still to Cute and Star (though I'm sure Star is wearing out her welcome with you even
Wheels I would also consider a reluctant eat because she was just shot last game, so that leaves a few options (Me, Sky, Jayo, Harry). I was eaten in round 1 last game so I think you would leave me off the table. Jayo may have been more you're speed than Harry, but Harry is on the list of people I think you would eat.
Harry is a typical round one eating for players nervous about his skills (maybe this is more myth than reality...not his skills his frequency of being eaten early for them....so I don't think he's someone fun would eat other than by sheer chance...were it not for the fact that Harry called him out several times. Maybe he is such a new wolf he is playing a directly adversarial/retalitory game.
I need to think, conclusions have to come more quickly in this game...so...only because of the accelerated nature of the play, i consider jayo human for now. Wheels' post was suspicious, and Jayo called her on it immediately, that kind of decisiveness makes me lean human
Odd let me ask you a question, whether you are human (or need to pretend to be) who do you think you would have eaten last round if a wolf?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
You like to protect new/persecuted players, so I don't think you would eat fun right off the top of. That probably also applies to some degree still to Cute and Star (though I'm sure Star is wearing out her welcome with you even
Wheels I would also consider a reluctant eat because she was just shot last game, so that leaves a few options (Me, Sky, Jayo, Harry). I was eaten in round 1 last game so I think you would leave me off the table. Jayo may have been more you're speed than Harry, but Harry is on the list of people I think you would eat.
Harry is a typical round one eating for players nervous about his skills (maybe this is more myth than reality...not his skills his frequency of being eaten early for them....so I don't think he's someone fun would eat other than by sheer chance...were it not for the fact that Harry called him out several times. Maybe he is such a new wolf he is playing a directly adversarial/retalitory game.
I need to think, conclusions have to come more quickly in this game...so...only because of the accelerated nature of the play, i consider jayo human for now. Wheels' post was suspicious, and Jayo called her on it immediately, that kind of decisiveness makes me lean human
Odd let me ask you a question, whether you are human (or need to pretend to be) who do you think you would have eaten last round if a wolf?
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Oh look, you read over previous posts
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Fake The Disco!
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Fake The Disco!
The_Spider wrote:
Odd let me ask you a question, whether you are human (or need to pretend to be) who do you think you would have eaten last round if a wolf?
First of all, thanks for explaining your thinking, it was enlightening.
I would have really struggled with deciding who to eat this round, but there are three people that would have not been in consideration, and Harry is one of them. I would probably have eaten starrose. I'm not going to say more because I dont want to expose my wolf game too much.
Edit: on a related note, changing my vote to starrose. It is now a tie.
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Odd let me ask you a question, whether you are human (or need to pretend to be) who do you think you would have eaten last round if a wolf?
First of all, thanks for explaining your thinking, it was enlightening.
I would have really struggled with deciding who to eat this round, but there are three people that would have not been in consideration, and Harry is one of them. I would probably have eaten starrose. I'm not going to say more because I dont want to expose my wolf game too much.
Edit: on a related note, changing my vote to starrose. It is now a tie.
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ss to spoile fun's welcome , chaned my vote my vote to cute,she is the only one that does not have a vote right now.
To: Star
What makes you think that players who vote at late times are suspicious?
(Sorry if I'm assuming too much but that's how I understand your post)
Edit:
To everyone:
Please don't mind if my logic is wrong as this is my first game.
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What makes you think that players who vote at late times are suspicious?
(Sorry if I'm assuming too much but that's how I understand your post)
Edit:
To everyone:
Please don't mind if my logic is wrong as this is my first game.
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I wasn't insulting the game, Rove. Crapshoot just means taking a stab in the dark with little to go on. I massively regret shooting jem now
I didn't take it as an insult, and I take a lot of things as an insult
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I didn't take it as an insult, and I take a lot of things as an insult
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Will tackle this in a bit...4wheels is a good options...but she has another possibility. Sky is not putting his usual efforts forth, in this round or the first, which is what I meant when I said I was surprised by the gap between jem's post and the next last round. I will try to work on the Harry eating, as it's our only real evidence atm. I think 4wheels is a good candidate for that, but again, that could be a double edged sword.
Evaluating
4wheels voted for Starrose
cutebunny4444 voted for The_Spider
Funfor1 voted for 4wheels
Jayo voted for 4wheels
oddrey voted for Starrose
Skybet voted for Jayo
Starrose voted for cutebunny4444
The_Spider voted for Skybet
also note...if I am by chance the player you are coughing at..I have no PMs, make sure you didn't missaddress me or anything
Okay, let me check
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Evaluating
4wheels voted for Starrose
cutebunny4444 voted for The_Spider
Funfor1 voted for 4wheels
Jayo voted for 4wheels
oddrey voted for Starrose
Skybet voted for Jayo
Starrose voted for cutebunny4444
The_Spider voted for Skybet
also note...if I am by chance the player you are coughing at..I have no PMs, make sure you didn't missaddress me or anything
Okay, let me check
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Now I'm just baffled
I guess I will outline my feelings on the game, mostly pertaining to the HP eating with a few other commentary thrown in. Any one could have eaten Harry, sometimes as a matter of course, sometimes as a curveball, the only person who I could see with a specific and tactical reason for eating HP was Fun (if again, he thinks the human vs werewolf fight is more direct and with little subterfuge) but I'm far from making an accusation there.
Jayo - I view as likely human for reasons explained, nothing substantial but in a quick game you gotta shoot from the hip. Wouldn't go out of his way to eat Harry I don't think either
Odd - Hasn't said very much, relative to her usual level, give me something to work with. Not quite suspect yet, but as I alluded to I think she would eat Harry in this situation, or at least Harry would be on her list, but that's just a lightly researched opinion at this point.
Sky - Moving into suspect territory, this just isn't Sky's typical level of play. The thick wall of the inactives might shield him for another round. I don't necessarily think he would eat Harry (could be a curveball eating as I said though) or could have just been outvoted by partner. The inactives do render this somewhat of a crapshoot, but no sense in going down without fighting. I also still don't really buy the Jem vote explanation in the midst of the several inactives. It also pairs well with the HP eating (if Sky really wants to preserve his strong wolf record it makes sense to bump off as many stronger players as reasonable)
Star - Could be a suspect for wolf...almost by default...depends on a key interaction going on. Not sure about the Harry eating. I'm not sure why Star would be particularly threatened by HP (does she or her alt Moon have much experience with him? )..The Harry eating just feels purposeful, it certainly could be sheer chance, but it just seems like it's someone nervous about his reputation
Cute - Kind of hard to figure out on so little. Her comment about HP raises a little alarm to me, but it's not really enough to go on
Fun - 1st timer so hard to say. Hasn't seemed extraordinarily wolfish, but who can say. I think he is the only one who would have a clear purpose for voting HP (since HP was on him a bit and he might think playing wolf is a tit for tat type of game).
Wheels - Part of a key vote/ineraction. I looked at wheels last wolf game and she pretty much literally cookied for at least 4 rounds. (this was the game Star divined her in round 1 but never said anything, even casting the losing vote on a human in must lynch) The whole game was depressing and frustrating, whatever an anti-masterpiece is, that was this game. Her direct accusation comes off as suspicious for sure, but it's not necessarily her recent wolf MO.
The last thing I'll say, is the people who ate Harry would probably have preferred to eat me (since the idea of me being cleared was floated around). I can think of two reason, Sky is a wolf, and the eating of me would point to him (he's the one commenting on me being cleared so he would think the Spid eating would be too direct a link), or someone who took pity on the fact I was eaten last game.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I guess I will outline my feelings on the game, mostly pertaining to the HP eating with a few other commentary thrown in. Any one could have eaten Harry, sometimes as a matter of course, sometimes as a curveball, the only person who I could see with a specific and tactical reason for eating HP was Fun (if again, he thinks the human vs werewolf fight is more direct and with little subterfuge) but I'm far from making an accusation there.
Jayo - I view as likely human for reasons explained, nothing substantial but in a quick game you gotta shoot from the hip. Wouldn't go out of his way to eat Harry I don't think either
Odd - Hasn't said very much, relative to her usual level, give me something to work with. Not quite suspect yet, but as I alluded to I think she would eat Harry in this situation, or at least Harry would be on her list, but that's just a lightly researched opinion at this point.
Sky - Moving into suspect territory, this just isn't Sky's typical level of play. The thick wall of the inactives might shield him for another round. I don't necessarily think he would eat Harry (could be a curveball eating as I said though) or could have just been outvoted by partner. The inactives do render this somewhat of a crapshoot, but no sense in going down without fighting. I also still don't really buy the Jem vote explanation in the midst of the several inactives. It also pairs well with the HP eating (if Sky really wants to preserve his strong wolf record it makes sense to bump off as many stronger players as reasonable)
Star - Could be a suspect for wolf...almost by default...depends on a key interaction going on. Not sure about the Harry eating. I'm not sure why Star would be particularly threatened by HP (does she or her alt Moon have much experience with him? )..The Harry eating just feels purposeful, it certainly could be sheer chance, but it just seems like it's someone nervous about his reputation
Cute - Kind of hard to figure out on so little. Her comment about HP raises a little alarm to me, but it's not really enough to go on
Fun - 1st timer so hard to say. Hasn't seemed extraordinarily wolfish, but who can say. I think he is the only one who would have a clear purpose for voting HP (since HP was on him a bit and he might think playing wolf is a tit for tat type of game).
Wheels - Part of a key vote/ineraction. I looked at wheels last wolf game and she pretty much literally cookied for at least 4 rounds. (this was the game Star divined her in round 1 but never said anything, even casting the losing vote on a human in must lynch) The whole game was depressing and frustrating, whatever an anti-masterpiece is, that was this game. Her direct accusation comes off as suspicious for sure, but it's not necessarily her recent wolf MO.
The last thing I'll say, is the people who ate Harry would probably have preferred to eat me (since the idea of me being cleared was floated around). I can think of two reason, Sky is a wolf, and the eating of me would point to him (he's the one commenting on me being cleared so he would think the Spid eating would be too direct a link), or someone who took pity on the fact I was eaten last game.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I take your comments but I am just really busy with work at the moment, and believe me, I wouldn't accept this as a worthy wolf performance if it was. I feel a bit bad that you're putting in all the effort, but it's just a bit of blip for me.
To be honest I can't really get into any analysis this round I don't think before it's over. The only 2 people I feel are human are Spid and Jayo. So I could go for anyone else within reason. I think I'll go for odd as that was my biggest vibe.
Not sure it'll be much of a factor though as Star and 4wheels both have 2 votes. And to be honest I think both could be equally good shots. I didn't like the rush of interest in 4wheels, though (although somewhat muted, it always makes me cynical).
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
To be honest I can't really get into any analysis this round I don't think before it's over. The only 2 people I feel are human are Spid and Jayo. So I could go for anyone else within reason. I think I'll go for odd as that was my biggest vibe.
Not sure it'll be much of a factor though as Star and 4wheels both have 2 votes. And to be honest I think both could be equally good shots. I didn't like the rush of interest in 4wheels, though (although somewhat muted, it always makes me cynical).
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
4wheels voted for Starrose
cutebunny4444 voted for The_Spider
Funfor1 voted for 4wheels
Jayo voted for 4wheels
oddrey voted for Starrose
Skybet voted for oddrey
Starrose voted for cutebunny4444
The_Spider voted for Skybet
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
cutebunny4444 voted for The_Spider
Funfor1 voted for 4wheels
Jayo voted for 4wheels
oddrey voted for Starrose
Skybet voted for oddrey
Starrose voted for cutebunny4444
The_Spider voted for Skybet
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Ok, I buy that Sky
I am not comfortable shooting wheels given the circumstances...I mean it might work out...but it screams giant risk to me.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I am not comfortable shooting wheels given the circumstances...I mean it might work out...but it screams giant risk to me.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The most compelling point you made spider, was about 4wheels last wolf game. Based on that I wouldn't vote for her this round out of suspicion. However, absent significant suspicion of anyone, I would like to go with a player who has shown over and over that they are not going to contribute much more than a vote, in which case 4wheels would be a candidate. But star has also shown a tendency to actively hurt her team's chances, so that is my preference (yes, you are right, my patience has worn thin). You put cutebunny in that category as well, but I dont agree with that characterization. She could certainly contribute more but she puts some effort and thought in. And I'd like to give funfor1 a chance to prove himself so won't vote for him without reason.
Sky's vote for jem makes me suspicious, but more suspicious that he has one of the solo roles than that he is wolf.
Funfor1, I dont think star was suggesting that cutebunny was suspicious. The seer in this game has to vote in order to divine someone, so people who dont want to vote for someone specifically will cast an cookie (seer protection vote) on someone who doesn't have any other votes on them as cover for the seer.
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Sky's vote for jem makes me suspicious, but more suspicious that he has one of the solo roles than that he is wolf.
Funfor1, I dont think star was suggesting that cutebunny was suspicious. The seer in this game has to vote in order to divine someone, so people who dont want to vote for someone specifically will cast an cookie (seer protection vote) on someone who doesn't have any other votes on them as cover for the seer.
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I guess Jayo is content to offer us no further
My inclination is to vote Rose, but I guess I will give it some time, every one who is online should be posting if possible....these games are very hard to win and require far more urgency
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
My inclination is to vote Rose, but I guess I will give it some time, every one who is online should be posting if possible....these games are very hard to win and require far more urgency
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well I would much prefer to shoot Star than 4wheels. So I will switch if it comes to it.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I have an idea in my head but Im not sure what the best strategy towards it is, so apologize if i am a bit back and forth....I think the key tension of this round will be resolved during the night. The sole benefit of a 10 player game relative to a 15 player game, is it actually takes 2 wrong votes in must lynch to lose the game, so Star should not be able to sink the game on her own (if she's a wolf it's moot anyway). (The seer also has a 1% better chance of finding the wolves & finding a wolf in 10 is better than in 15)
I am considering a switch to cutebunny here
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I am considering a switch to cutebunny here
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I guess shooting cute is the next best thing since Star's vote for her could be telling later. But you just know I'm going to think you're sticking your neck out for Star again
I'll switch.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I'll switch.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Following an awful lynch for the humans, you managed to shoot a wolf!
Will the seer & the medium survive the round?
Depending on whether HP or whoever will be eaten is the solo role you are at 4 vs 1 vs 1 or 5 vs 1
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Will the seer & the medium survive the round?
Depending on whether HP or whoever will be eaten is the solo role you are at 4 vs 1 vs 1 or 5 vs 1
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