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Easter VS Christmas!!!

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charlottes-oddAen

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new Posted: 01:38PM Mar 5, 2013

Inspired by the epic rap battles on YouTube, I've decided to do some VS challenges (if you can call it that) on here! Some will be more serious some will be silly.

So first up....
EASTER VS CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!
Which do you prefer and why?


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Life_Sucks*us

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new Posted: 02:41PM Mar 5, 2013

neither, to be quite frank--
but i voted christmas because more than anything, it carries strongly the essence of domesticity that i fervently miss
easter, to me, is just an arbitrary holiday with which i don't really identify


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Melody_Pond

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new Posted: 06:13PM Mar 5, 2013

Christmas because its nice to wake up and everyone's happy and you just lounge around in your pajamas all day eating candy.

EDIT: I also love seeing the look on my little sister's face every time she opens a present


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JQPublic

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new Posted: 04:14AM Mar 6, 2013

I'm not Christian, so neither for me.

I have a this or that TB (after wyse did a bunch of this or that threads), to which I've just invited you.


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charlottes-oddAen

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new Posted: 12:01PM Mar 6, 2013

Thanks JQPublic! I've just joined it so lets see what happens
And Melody that's cute I wish I had a little sister, instead I've got an annoying younger brother


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Thekid4t

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new Posted: 07:59PM Mar 6, 2013

I have a little sister. Two, in fact. Believe me, it's not all it's cracked up to be.

I chose Christmas because I just love that Christmasy feeling that comes with it.

I'm very glad that you didn't do "Christmas VS Hanukkah!!!" That would have been a disaster.


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koin_era345tus

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new Posted: 11:25PM Mar 6, 2013

^Amen to that.

I'm not a big fan of either, probably shouldn't be complaining though since I get gifts. I guess I vote Christmas since I get better stuff and we usually get to see relatives so thats fun. I agree with life_sucks that easter is somewhat arbitrary.


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Smithy*en

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new Posted: 03:50AM Mar 7, 2013

Christmas because I can listen to "Fairytale of New York" on repeat for a month.

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MarkusAus

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new Posted: 11:58AM Mar 7, 2013

meh im not christian so I dont celebrate easter cept with my family who are christians, I dont really celebrate christmas either... guess christmas because work is usually off then

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Ihmisen*

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new Posted: 06:17AM Mar 8, 2013

Santa is much better to me than the Bunny.
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HarryPutter*ca

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new Posted: 11:25AM Mar 8, 2013

Easter is more important to Christians of the two

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LogicalRogerAus

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new Posted: 09:28PM Mar 8, 2013

^ Really? Without the birth there couldn't have been a proper sacrifice.

Both holidays have some fun secular aspects, but I do find Christmas more fun on the whole. Of course, I think there are better holidays out there.
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HarryPutter*ca

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new Posted: 01:17AM Mar 9, 2013

To my understanding, the birth is mostly significant because of the immaculate conception. It's still significant, but the resurrection is really what defines the Christian faith - or at least the Catholic one. It fulfils the prophecies, affirms Jesus' divine nature, demonstrates "eternal life", "the sacrifice" etc. There wouldn't be any Christianity without the resurrection.

Easter was also the first of the two celebrated in the 2nd century, while celebrating Christmas only really came about in the 4th century. You can make the argument that it only really became popularized to convince pagans to convert to Roman Christianity (hence the Dec 25th date), but anyway....



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Thekid4t

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new Posted: 11:23AM Mar 9, 2013

HarryPutter wrote:
To my understanding, the birth is mostly significant because of the immaculate conception.
Actually, it's a little known fact that the "immaculate conception" refers to Mary, not Jesus. Here's a Wikipedia article about it, although I didn't originally learn it from Wikipedia.

Wait, this turned into a religious thing? My earlier post about not having it be "Christmas VS Hanukkah!!!" was specifically about not letting it turn into a religious thing!


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HarryPutter*ca

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new Posted: 01:25AM Mar 10, 2013

Thekid4 wrote:
HarryPutter wrote:
To my understanding, the birth is mostly significant because of the immaculate conception.
Actually, it's a little known fact that the "immaculate conception" refers to Mary, not Jesus. Here's a Wikipedia article about it, although I didn't originally learn it from Wikipedia.


Ah, yeah I meant Virginal conception since it shows Jesus was conceived by the "holy spirit", but the immaculate conception is relevant to show Jesus as sinless (for Catholics, at least).


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JQPublic

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new Posted: 06:23AM Mar 10, 2013

Thekid4 wrote:
HarryPutter wrote:
To my understanding, the birth is mostly significant because of the immaculate conception.
Actually, it's a little known fact that the "immaculate conception" refers to Mary, not Jesus. Here's a Wikipedia article about it, although I didn't originally learn it from Wikipedia.

Wait, this turned into a religious thing? My earlier post about not having it be "Christmas VS Hanukkah!!!" was specifically about not letting it turn into a religious thing!


True.
Share the Bible this Christmas
Share the Torah This Hanukkah


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Thekid4t

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new Posted: 02:23PM Mar 10, 2013

It's a bit late to do that.

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LogicalRogerAus

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new Posted: 09:36PM Mar 10, 2013

affirms Jesus' divine nature, demonstrates "eternal life", "the sacrifice" etc. There wouldn't be any Christianity without the resurrection.
But if there was only resurrection then there wouldn't much of a mass or much of a religion. Arguing about which aspect of Jesus' life is the most important is a bit useless as you really need all aspects. The birth affirmed old prophecies of a messiah, his life brought teachings and essential wisdom for believers, his resurrection allowed him to allow forgiveness. Even his death is important (Good Friday) as without death there is no resurrection. And without knowledge and belief of his teachings, there is no forgiveness. Everything maters in terms of the Christian faith.

Considering it in non-religious terms, however, Christmas has a lot more songs, stories, and activities. Perhaps Easter should step it up.
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RGW4Ausmod

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new Posted: 12:13AM Mar 11, 2013

This short poll is almost like "The chicken or the egg?"

I actually picked the birth of Christ or Christmas... but of course, as usual, the poll did not really explain what is at the heart of Charlottes intention, and I only picked it because I like the Christmas decorations and the week before Christmas with all of the music and decorations, more than looking for eggs that I already decorated and had to hide.

Charlottes-odd basically only stated:
"EASTER VS CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!
Which do you prefer and why?"


Prefer and why? I almost thought as soon as I read this, that this poll should be in debate. Pollsters, in my opinion, should really be more specific why they pick a poll theme, then to try and gain comments that could be so varied as they already are.

No negative thoughts here Charlotte, you definitely are not the first one to do this. Point is, the pollster must have a thought in why they started the poll, so state it clearly. You want a religious theme discussed, or a holiday theme? It is okay to discuss religion now on Braingle, just be respectful and not argumentative, at least in this forum.

The poll does not ask about whether you are a Christian or not; does not care whether you have religious beliefs or not... just asks you which do you prefer - Easter or Christmas? Answers to this poll have already jumped into religious beliefs.

So, going with a religious belief on this poll, what is more important, the celebration of the birth of Christ, or the celebration of his death and resurrection; or should the question about the poll be, "What is your favorite holiday of the year, Christmas or Easter?" Even non-Christians get the benefit (depending on where you work) to be off on one or both of these holidays.

If I was a non-Christian, I would prefer Christmas. I worked for a company for over 26 years that always gave us Christmas off, or gave us premium time pay to work it; whereas Easter was NOT considered a government holiday in any situation, so to work it, it was just another day. Frankly, I never understood this, but that is again, not the point of the poll.

However, if the poll was whether I would prefer Christmas or Easter...

As a Christian, I would prefer Easter. Being born of a virgin... yeah, it means nothing. I say this, because I could claim to have been born of a virgin (okay, kinda hard to say that with 3 older brothers... but that is not the point). But to back that claim up with being resurrected 3 days after I died a violent death... hmm, maybe what he stated before he died meant something... oh yeah, he said he was the Son of God and here for me and he was born of the virgin Mary. So being born of a virgin is only important if he died and saved me in the process.. hmm, what else did he say (now that importance comes to light). Non-Christians can tear this apart all they want... in respect to this forum, it is not debatable. I believe it, I have for 40 years now (and I didn't even have to walk in the wilderness to make this happen).

So, if the poll was worded different, I would have stated Easter.

Sorry Charlotte, but your poll will not serve any specific answers to true questions or answers, only confuse the masses.

But, I can live with picking Christmas... at least the poll didn't ask 'Xmas or Easter' and left Christ in Christmas.


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koin_era345tus

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new Posted: 11:28PM Mar 15, 2013

But, I can live with picking Christmas... at least the poll didn't ask 'Xmas or Easter' and left Christ in Christmas.


Common misconception. "Christ" is still in Xmas. According to Wikipedia, the "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, as in Christ. "Xmas" isn't anything new, either. I doubt the mass commercialization of Christmas was an issue in the 16th Century.

Edit: The article is actually very interesting, I recommend anyone read it.


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