The Werewolf Game
Game #3000: 3000 A.D. - Betrayal of Mankind
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Sowing the seeds of discord is not proving too successful for the Galonians.
Their rendezvous point was compromised by the interception of critical data and only 2 members remain to try to thwart the New UN and deny Earth a berth in the Intergalactic Federation.
There is a steely determination in the air at the New UN, and the members set to their task with vigor following their consecutive victories. But they are not alone in their determination, the Galonians are prickly and must come up with a new strategy to have them target each other, and their game has truly begun now...
The holder of the Keys to the Inner Sanctum is still with us
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Sowing the seeds of discord is not proving too successful for the Galonians.
Their rendezvous point was compromised by the interception of critical data and only 2 members remain to try to thwart the New UN and deny Earth a berth in the Intergalactic Federation.
There is a steely determination in the air at the New UN, and the members set to their task with vigor following their consecutive victories. But they are not alone in their determination, the Galonians are prickly and must come up with a new strategy to have them target each other, and their game has truly begun now...
The holder of the Keys to the Inner Sanctum is still with us
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Not sure if night timed out or not, if it didn't it was close. The fact Spider was eaten tells us at lest one wolf voted but the long night would (hopefully) suggest that one didn't. As we are not allowed to discuss (or even use) log in times, the wolves intentionally letting niight time out makes no sense as it can't be used to frame an inactive player.
I would suggest that one wolf is in fat not active, so I am going to go back and look over the last round and see if anyone was MIA entirely.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I would suggest that one wolf is in fat not active, so I am going to go back and look over the last round and see if anyone was MIA entirely.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
I'm thinking it's possible the wolves thought spid divined chang or me as human, and figured there was a good chance he was seer. That's all I can come up with...
Voting randomly for now.
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Voting randomly for now.
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Woohoo, 2 wolves down 2 to go!
Can't highlight the white on my phone so not sure what you did deb, but I'm assuming you solved the cipher. Kinda rejects my idea that you're a wolf, but I won't clear anyone just yet!
Will put an SPV in for now.
Can't highlight the white on my phone so not sure what you did deb, but I'm assuming you solved the cipher. Kinda rejects my idea that you're a wolf, but I won't clear anyone just yet!
Will put an SPV in for now.
Yay! We got two in two!
That calls for a dance party!
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That calls for a dance party!
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hey
going vote someone now
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going vote someone now
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Voting randomly right now, about to get dinner and relax for a bit. Bbl.
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Obligatory post. I'm going to suggest that deb is cleared. I don't know if someone else might've gotten that cipher, but being the first one to solve and post her admittedly impressive progress should earn the benefit of the doubt. Also, I'll grant chang a stronger clear for leading the charge. So while my vote will be a mere SPV for now, it won't be for either one of them.
Will place a SPv for LH for now. Will wait to see if our Seer lives or was eater before I make a firm commitment.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Good work deb(:
SPV (not knowing if spid was seer).
SPV (not knowing if spid was seer).
slammngirl92 wrote:
At the moment I am not at liberty to say. Until something better comes along, I will be voting oni. He's active, but hasn't participated in discussion and keeps spaming gifs.
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*rawr*
How do you know?
At the moment I am not at liberty to say. Until something better comes along, I will be voting oni. He's active, but hasn't participated in discussion and keeps spaming gifs.
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*rawr*
dfamina wrote:
I agree, deb is 99% clear in my mind also.
I just haven't had a lot to add to the discussions so I'm just paying attention to everyone else's logic and trying to catch the little nuances. As for the gifs, I can only say one thing........
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Obligatory post. I'm going to suggest that deb is cleared. I don't know if someone else might've gotten that cipher, but being the first one to solve and post her admittedly impressive progress should earn the benefit of the doubt.
I agree, deb is 99% clear in my mind also.
I just haven't had a lot to add to the discussions so I'm just paying attention to everyone else's logic and trying to catch the little nuances. As for the gifs, I can only say one thing........
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Yeah, cool down on the gifs...if not because they're annoying, but also because some people have slow connections and making them load potentially MBs of extra data is a bit unfair.
Not sure where chang is getting his info from...but that kind of statement further reaffirms his humanness to me. I also think Rhy is pretty clear, and deb almost certainly is. I'll put a little more thought into coming up with a suspect.
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Spv for now good job on the two wolves. I checked in this afternoon and it was still night.
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Just a few thoughts.
I was nearly bullet-bait in round 1. As i am human, I would guess the infiltrating wolves would have cast votes on me earlier rather than later to build a mob and get a majority. If they hadn't voted early, i would have expected them to cast the last couple of votes that had been needed to tip the majority and shoot me. This would have saved scrubs before I showed up and things turned to the infiltrator. As scrubb was the only other inactive at that point, they would have wanted to direct attention to me as human and away from scrubb.
Also, pleas note that cab is a confirmed infiltrator and was a member of the witch hunt to get me shot. If I was an infiltrator would cab have voted to shoot me, there was no need to throw me under the bus.
I do think the first human clearing clue wasn't about sky, I have another answer but will wait a bit to share my thoughts on that.
I am human.....
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I was nearly bullet-bait in round 1. As i am human, I would guess the infiltrating wolves would have cast votes on me earlier rather than later to build a mob and get a majority. If they hadn't voted early, i would have expected them to cast the last couple of votes that had been needed to tip the majority and shoot me. This would have saved scrubs before I showed up and things turned to the infiltrator. As scrubb was the only other inactive at that point, they would have wanted to direct attention to me as human and away from scrubb.
Also, pleas note that cab is a confirmed infiltrator and was a member of the witch hunt to get me shot. If I was an infiltrator would cab have voted to shoot me, there was no need to throw me under the bus.
I do think the first human clearing clue wasn't about sky, I have another answer but will wait a bit to share my thoughts on that.
I am human.....
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Casting a vote for debc for now....
I figure as she's almost certainly human no one else will vote for her, so no fear of her getting a majority while i'm away. LOL.
I figure as she's almost certainly human no one else will vote for her, so no fear of her getting a majority while i'm away. LOL.
Wow, this might be over fast. Perhaps I'm just naturally/overly suspicious but I'm not completely convinced debc1 isn't a wolf, though unlikely; though I'm not sure I would have figured it out the clue doesn't seem like it would be that hard for someone who knows that encryption stuff. Then again, why solve against possibly the only other active wolf... I'm still quite unsure of oni after the first round, last second show-up just before getting shot. Furthermore, I'm very distrustful of changhill, especially when saying they know spider wasn't the seer. Then again, he could be the seer. Or, he could be human pretending to be the seer in order to protect the real seer... The mind games...
Oh, and I would think the wolfs would have joined in on the votes against caberet knowing she was a goner anyways.
Voting Rhythmic for now since they turned up the quiet lately don't yet have a vote.
Oh, and I would think the wolfs would have joined in on the votes against caberet knowing she was a goner anyways.
Voting Rhythmic for now since they turned up the quiet lately don't yet have a vote.
As far as wolf hunting is concerned, there isn't much to go on. First wolf was luck and the second wolf was "given". (Not to discredit deb's efforts). While solving the clue won't clear deb, it makes her less of a priority.
And I have a 'specialty' other than mind games. And I have about 3 picks as to who seer. And spider wasn't at the top, he follows a logical sequence of thoughts not unusual to his regular play. With a snow and spider eating, the wolves aren't really showing there tactical side to be seer hunting efficiently.
*rawr*
And I have a 'specialty' other than mind games. And I have about 3 picks as to who seer. And spider wasn't at the top, he follows a logical sequence of thoughts not unusual to his regular play. With a snow and spider eating, the wolves aren't really showing there tactical side to be seer hunting efficiently.
*rawr*
Nice work last round, Deb.
SPV for now.
SPV for now.
Voting randomly for now.
The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
The faster I type in my password, the more secret agent-y I feel.
Out for the night. Midnight here.
Ok I've had a quick skim over last round, looks like deb is clear.
I've had a really busy weekend, and now I feel way behind on this game, I haven't been keeping track at all. I will do my best to read thoroughly on the train this morning.
SPVing for now.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I've had a really busy weekend, and now I feel way behind on this game, I haven't been keeping track at all. I will do my best to read thoroughly on the train this morning.
SPVing for now.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Sorry I haven't been as active. I should be on more since it isn't the weekend or holiday.
So who would want to eat snowmonster and spider? Maybe dfamina? That's where I'll put my vote.
The seer should have at least one person with him/her in the seer tb. Hopefully he/she can stay hidden for a couple more rounds (or even longer) and then we can get those other 2 by process of elimination.
"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
So who would want to eat snowmonster and spider? Maybe dfamina? That's where I'll put my vote.
The seer should have at least one person with him/her in the seer tb. Hopefully he/she can stay hidden for a couple more rounds (or even longer) and then we can get those other 2 by process of elimination.
"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
I would also have to agree that both Sky and Deb are clear. I am not sure how Chang could know for sure but if he says he has a reason to know it, I trust him (for now) though he has fooled me a few times.
oni5150 wrote:
Wolves vote for wolves all the time, either to make themselves appear human or to make the subject of their vote seem human. Let's not forget the wolves have a TB so can discuss their game plan.
I think I may join the Oni vote for now, I will check back later and check if necessary.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
oni5150 wrote:
Also, pleas note that cab is a confirmed infiltrator and was a member of the witch hunt to get me shot. If I was an infiltrator would cab have voted to shoot me, there was no need to throw me under the bus.
Wolves vote for wolves all the time, either to make themselves appear human or to make the subject of their vote seem human. Let's not forget the wolves have a TB so can discuss their game plan.
I think I may join the Oni vote for now, I will check back later and check if necessary.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Am I hearing correctly there was a clearing clue at some point? I can't find it....
I will probably join the oni vote, he seems pretty skittish this game and his arguments aren't really going anywhere, but I want to see this clue first.
EDIT: phone auto-correct
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I will probably join the oni vote, he seems pretty skittish this game and his arguments aren't really going anywhere, but I want to see this clue first.
EDIT: phone auto-correct
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Holding off on clearing clue for the moment
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I certainly would've eaten snow, but not likely Spid this early. If I may be honest, he's fun to play with, especially when trying to hide from him.
Sky, the clearing clue was the 13th post in Round One, and is as follows:
I'm nearly 100% certain of who the clue is about, but like oni, I'll keep it to myself for now.
As for chang, I agree with him as far as not having much to go on. There wasn't really any point in trying to save either of the wolves (especially not cab after she was blatantly pointed out by chang himself), so the voting records aren't of much use. I also don't think he'd make such a claim on who is definitely -not- the Seer well before Jayo's mod post was made if he was (were?) a wolf.
I've got to think about this a bit more, because I'm only able to narrow the list down by a few people right now. I'll be back after some time and I'll (hopefully) make an informed decision.
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Sky, the clearing clue was the 13th post in Round One, and is as follows:
Round 1: Clearing Clue
The second Fermat Number
The combined number of Superbowls won by the New York Jets and the New Orleans Saints
Number of Points on the Star of David
According to Highlander, there can be only _?
Archimedes exclamation!!
The second Fermat Number
The combined number of Superbowls won by the New York Jets and the New Orleans Saints
Number of Points on the Star of David
According to Highlander, there can be only _?
Archimedes exclamation!!
I'm nearly 100% certain of who the clue is about, but like oni, I'll keep it to myself for now.
As for chang, I agree with him as far as not having much to go on. There wasn't really any point in trying to save either of the wolves (especially not cab after she was blatantly pointed out by chang himself), so the voting records aren't of much use. I also don't think he'd make such a claim on who is definitely -not- the Seer well before Jayo's mod post was made if he was (were?) a wolf.
I've got to think about this a bit more, because I'm only able to narrow the list down by a few people right now. I'll be back after some time and I'll (hopefully) make an informed decision.
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Not to be rude or anything, but oni, you're starting to annoy me this game.
The gifs were annoying. And you need to calm down about round one... if you would have been active, you wouldn't have been almost shot.
The gifs were annoying. And you need to calm down about round one... if you would have been active, you wouldn't have been almost shot.
Depending on when we get the clue. I will place my final vote. I would advise against majorities unless you have some damning evidence.
*rawr*
*rawr*
Upon further consideration, I think the human clue pointed to Spider, which is probably why he was eaten.
As oni pointed out, the human clue yields "5261 Eureka", an asteroid that was discovered by David H Levy, whose birthday (22 May) is the same as Spid's. (It was also discovered by Henry Holt, but the page on him gives almost no information)
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As oni pointed out, the human clue yields "5261 Eureka", an asteroid that was discovered by David H Levy, whose birthday (22 May) is the same as Spid's. (It was also discovered by Henry Holt, but the page on him gives almost no information)
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Eating humans that clearing clues point to isn't very wise when the seer is still alive... I guess that's how Chang was definitively sure spid wasn't seer.
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slammngirl92 wrote:
Ok, ok... Gifts are out. * ugh*
No worries about round 1 either, I'm not stressing just trying to sort out possible motives and locate infiltrating wolves.
*bites lip refraining from posting wolf gif after comment*
Not to be rude or anything, but oni, you're starting to annoy me this game.
The gifs were annoying. And you need to calm down about round one... if you would have been active, you wouldn't have been almost shot.
The gifs were annoying. And you need to calm down about round one... if you would have been active, you wouldn't have been almost shot.
Ok, ok... Gifts are out. * ugh*
No worries about round 1 either, I'm not stressing just trying to sort out possible motives and locate infiltrating wolves.
*bites lip refraining from posting wolf gif after comment*
So we're looking at wolves who are smart/motivated enough to solve the clue (or read the subtext of chang's comment), but not tactically minded enough to realise that Jayo probably wouldn't clear the Seer, who should be a higher priority.
I didn't solve an clue. There are other ways to know... So so far there are too many people playing low. Oni is human, slightly annoying, but human. Deb is human as well. I am human. I am gonna take an educated stab at a wolf and probably not see yall next round. I have finals to prepare for and no clearing clue to help. So if am still here next round, I am here next round
*rawr*
*rawr*
I am guessing Chang is in the seer box along with the seer and has inside knowledge of the seer's true identity. As Chang sas Oni is human, I will trust him (unless proven later we cannot). I will switch off Oni, but will wait until I have a more viable suspect before I make the move.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
changhill wrote:
It's nice when people validate my powers of slight annoyance, its greatly under-appreciated sometimes. *sob*
* gives chang big hug*
I feel whole and complete!
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Oni is human, slightly annoying, but human.
It's nice when people validate my powers of slight annoyance, its greatly under-appreciated sometimes. *sob*
* gives chang big hug*
I feel whole and complete!
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Oh, thats right... seer box! I forgot wolves and seer have TBs.
We have 26 hours... I'll be on later. Sorry I'm not much help with the clues... I wouldn't even know where to start
Ahhh ok was wondering what the big secret was. Kept thinking well if he knows Spid is not the seer then there is something fishy going on...thought it was too weird of a spoof to play that off on himself as not being a seer...feeling awful bold. But I get it now. duh I am blonde. bbl on break! Sorry working overtime this busy holiday season.
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right now keeping my vote
have a suspicion, but nothing concrete
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have a suspicion, but nothing concrete
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Something about nicats' post rings untrue to me. I feel like it's kind of filler forced stuff. I was most likely wrong about deb, so potentially wrong about nicats, but this game needs more life if we want better reads so I'm changing my vote to nicats for now.
Really GA?? While i was working i thought how this could be a set up what if the wolves are pulling a fast one and naming humans?? They would know who all is human. Vote how u want but i forgot about the talk boxes untill it was mentioned.
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I'm still quite suspicious of changhill. Then again, I'm suspicious of everyone... I'll go with his 'educated stab' for now and see where that lands us.
EDIT- Not that Rhythmic showing up right after being called out isn't curious. But, I suppose what else would they do.
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EDIT- Not that Rhythmic showing up right after being called out isn't curious. But, I suppose what else would they do.
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I'm thinking both chang and Rhy are human...now I'm wondering about you, BU
I've switched to the majority just due to inactivity.
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I've switched to the majority just due to inactivity.
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[quote] HarryPutter wrote: [quote]I'm thinking both chang and Rhy are human...now I'm wondering about you, BU [/quote]
BoredUltimatum wrote: [quote]I'm still quite suspicious of changhill. [/quote]
Nah, Chang is playing the way he always does. I am not saying he is not a wolf, just that there is nothing odd (for him) about the way he is acting.
[quote] EDIT- Not that Rhythmic showing up right after being called out isn't curious. But, I suppose what else would they do.[/quote]
I too have seen this as suspicious at times (depending on who it is who does it) but sometimes I think a player may be monitoring the game and not really have much to add, until they see their name mentioned and then they realise that they had better defend themselves. [/quote][/quote]
[quote] I've switched to the majority just due to inactivity.[/quote]
With nothing more to go on, I think I may do the same to help move the game forward.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
BoredUltimatum wrote: [quote]I'm still quite suspicious of changhill. [/quote]
Nah, Chang is playing the way he always does. I am not saying he is not a wolf, just that there is nothing odd (for him) about the way he is acting.
[quote] EDIT- Not that Rhythmic showing up right after being called out isn't curious. But, I suppose what else would they do.[/quote]
I too have seen this as suspicious at times (depending on who it is who does it) but sometimes I think a player may be monitoring the game and not really have much to add, until they see their name mentioned and then they realise that they had better defend themselves. [/quote][/quote]
[quote] I've switched to the majority just due to inactivity.[/quote]
With nothing more to go on, I think I may do the same to help move the game forward.
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Maybe the dog only brings the ball back because he thinks you like throwing it.
Im kind of suspicious of BU after that ppst, too.
But, I will join the inactive vote. I will probably get on, but at the very end of the round.
Happy no more break everyone.
But, I will join the inactive vote. I will probably get on, but at the very end of the round.
Happy no more break everyone.
Well, Longhorn's inactivity is certainly unusual. I hope everything is ok with her. However, inactivity can only hurt later on, so I'll switch to her. Maybe we'll get lucky again.
"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
"For me, the saxophone is a way of expression" - Kenneth Thomson
With one more vote needed, I'm going to go ahead and end this.
The Council, emboldened by their success so far decided that what worked in the first round of discussions might work again.
Again they voted out the one that stayed silent on the debate. They assumed that LH was keeping quiet as she was afraid of putting her foot in her mouth, but it was actually because she was given a mild sedative by one of the Galonians and for the first time, the Council has made an error.
The Key Holder awaits the next round of discussions along with the rest of the Council and the two remaining saboteurs
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Again they voted out the one that stayed silent on the debate. They assumed that LH was keeping quiet as she was afraid of putting her foot in her mouth, but it was actually because she was given a mild sedative by one of the Galonians and for the first time, the Council has made an error.
The Key Holder awaits the next round of discussions along with the rest of the Council and the two remaining saboteurs
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
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