The Werewolf Game
Game #3149: C & I 34
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Welcome to Round 3!
LR was HUMAN!
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"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
Welcome to Round 3!
LR was HUMAN!
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"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
ICU is gone, that's a strange one considering the last rounds posts.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
That seems strange indeed.
LR was human, but I still want Hydra to explain his last post last round. I'll SPV him for now.
LR was human, but I still want Hydra to explain his last post last round. I'll SPV him for now.
Now I have lost one of my suspects..
Got to go back and read some more.
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Got to go back and read some more.
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Strange. If I were a wolf, ICUB would be a perfect scapegoat for next round.
Anyways, I voted ICUB because she did not state a vote earlier, which is suspicious.
SPV for Admiral.
All fields of science are just applied physics.
Anyways, I voted ICUB because she did not state a vote earlier, which is suspicious.
SPV for Admiral.
All fields of science are just applied physics.
talanpoe was absent from the voting last round, so my SPV is for him
It's a disease, not a punch line
It's a disease, not a punch line
Not sure I'd go with that reasoning, talanpoe hasn't played in quite a while, so I'm thinking he just hasn't gotten in the swing of things yet. LH, on the other hand could be the reason for the long night. Voting LH, at least for now.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I am the reason for long night. If I was a wolf and a human was gone I would not vote either.....because, people like Bobbi will assume that the inactive is reason and must be wolf. Just my 2 cents
Will look back over rounds and see what has happened. Be back later.
River was a blast!!
Edit to add:
WHO stuck out a bit with the posts last round and adding to LR may a bit early...
Voting WHO
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Like what you love, and love what you got.
Will look back over rounds and see what has happened. Be back later.
River was a blast!!
Edit to add:
WHO stuck out a bit with the posts last round and adding to LR may a bit early...
Voting WHO
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Like what you love, and love what you got.
SPV for Cat.
bradon182001 voted for Longhorn_fan
chunnie voted for Hydra1234
Hydra1234 voted for The_Admiral
Longhorn_fan voted for whoviandeb
The_Admiral voted for catmandon
whoviandeb voted for talanpoe
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Pirates don't sail seven seas and battle sirens. They sail oceans and loot crap.
bradon182001 voted for Longhorn_fan
chunnie voted for Hydra1234
Hydra1234 voted for The_Admiral
Longhorn_fan voted for whoviandeb
The_Admiral voted for catmandon
whoviandeb voted for talanpoe
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Pirates don't sail seven seas and battle sirens. They sail oceans and loot crap.
For the record, I am still alive. Completely missed the last day round; sorry. Just a timing issue (and the fact that I slept late on Saturday; sue me).
I thought the who ICU/LR thing was interesting, but not sure what to make of it yet since both turned out to be human. SPV for now (assuming I'm correct that mod would tell us if seer were defunct).
I thought the who ICU/LR thing was interesting, but not sure what to make of it yet since both turned out to be human. SPV for now (assuming I'm correct that mod would tell us if seer were defunct).
Voting for Bobbi (Bradon) for now but subject to change for a good reason. Not much to go on at this point, but am going to start watching voting patterns.
Be back later.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Be back later.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Personally, I think analyzing "voting patterns" will be a waste of time, since everyone is so far voting as an "SPV." Don't think there's much to be deduced. So in such a situation, when there really is no logical evidence one way or another, the thing I find to be most suspicious are people who start a round by suggesting suspects. To me, there are two logical reasons to do so. One, a person doing that is the Seer and trying to be subtle, or two, they are a wolf averting suspicions. Since there are three wolves and only one seer, the probability certainly is biased in one direction.
Having said all that, I will note that chunnie began this round by suggesting suspicion on Hydra. Looking over the previous round, it appears the reason Hydra was suspected is for being suspicious of ICUB not stating a vote. Now, there is no written rule that someone must do that, and there should be accounting for the fact that sometimes people don't have time to write posts. During the weekdays, I barely had time to be online while this game was in progress. So, perhaps Hydra's suspicion of ICUB was weak (and proven this round to be unfounded), but that really is the only reason there seems to be for chunnie having started the round by pointing a finger at Hydra. Now, there is a 25% chance this was a Seer's attempt to ID a wolf, but it is three times more likely the activity of a wolf. Having nothing better or anywhere near as logical to go on, my vote is currently for chunnie.
I will now resume lurking silently.
Having said all that, I will note that chunnie began this round by suggesting suspicion on Hydra. Looking over the previous round, it appears the reason Hydra was suspected is for being suspicious of ICUB not stating a vote. Now, there is no written rule that someone must do that, and there should be accounting for the fact that sometimes people don't have time to write posts. During the weekdays, I barely had time to be online while this game was in progress. So, perhaps Hydra's suspicion of ICUB was weak (and proven this round to be unfounded), but that really is the only reason there seems to be for chunnie having started the round by pointing a finger at Hydra. Now, there is a 25% chance this was a Seer's attempt to ID a wolf, but it is three times more likely the activity of a wolf. Having nothing better or anywhere near as logical to go on, my vote is currently for chunnie.
I will now resume lurking silently.
I honestly don't have the energy to respond to that as I really should.
So, Radioguy, congrats on tipping the wolves off as to whom they should eat next.
Yes, I am the seer.
Hydra is a WOLF
Bobbi (bradon) is HUMAN.
If I had to guess, I'd say Radioguy is a wolf as well. You don't go saying someone is either wolf or seer unless you're trying to warn your wolf buddies (who would obviously know that the person isn't a wolf).
So, Radioguy, congrats on tipping the wolves off as to whom they should eat next.
Yes, I am the seer.
Hydra is a WOLF
Bobbi (bradon) is HUMAN.
If I had to guess, I'd say Radioguy is a wolf as well. You don't go saying someone is either wolf or seer unless you're trying to warn your wolf buddies (who would obviously know that the person isn't a wolf).
I am not thinking that it was the right time for that Chunnie, although you did get a wolf....
I guess we have no where to go now.
Hydra shot this round, Chunnie eaten tonight, someone shot tomorrow, Bobbi eaten tomorrow....
Not sure about outing so soon???
I guess for now I will leave my vote on WHO.... I still smell a wolf there.
I could be wrong but....
Like what you love, and love what you got.
I guess we have no where to go now.
Hydra shot this round, Chunnie eaten tonight, someone shot tomorrow, Bobbi eaten tomorrow....
Not sure about outing so soon???
I guess for now I will leave my vote on WHO.... I still smell a wolf there.
I could be wrong but....
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Have to put in vote to protect our seer..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Just read the other post!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTH....
A little early for the seer to come out.
May change vote..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
WTH....
A little early for the seer to come out.
May change vote..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Chunnie, if you are seer, then WHY would you come out after just one accusation? There's no reason to do so unless your downfall is inevitable - which with only two votes against you, it isn't.
As for Radioguy, I thought his entire reasoning for voting for chunnie was ridiculous. Everyone is SPV voting thus far, and chunnie's assertion didn't stick out any further than anyone else's has.
So that leaves us with two options:
If we believe chunnie, we vote for Hydra.
If we don't believe chunnie, we vote for chunnie - because there's no reason for a human to ever lie about being a seer. EVER.
Longhorn - yeah, you're wrong. But that's okay.
It's a disease, not a punch line
As for Radioguy, I thought his entire reasoning for voting for chunnie was ridiculous. Everyone is SPV voting thus far, and chunnie's assertion didn't stick out any further than anyone else's has.
So that leaves us with two options:
If we believe chunnie, we vote for Hydra.
If we don't believe chunnie, we vote for chunnie - because there's no reason for a human to ever lie about being a seer. EVER.
Longhorn - yeah, you're wrong. But that's okay.
It's a disease, not a punch line
Radio's post has me confused (not so much his reasoning, but the fact that if he's wrong then he's thrown the seer under the bus); but chunnie's reaction demands a response. Either way, Chunnie apparently expects Radio's argument to gain traction somewhere and doesn't expect to be here next round.
If chunnie were a wolf, then he wouldn't make a seer claim because it would surely get him shot next round. He'd probably just keep his head down and hope people didn't listen to Radio.
On the other hand, if chunnie is indeed seer, then there are two threats: one of being shot today if people listen to Radio, and one of being eaten tonight if canines listen to Radio. He would try to protect the info he has in that case.
I think chunnie is the seer and will change my vote to Hydra. If Hydra turns out to be human, then chunnie will die tomorrow; if Hydra is wolf, then we move on.
If chunnie were a wolf, then he wouldn't make a seer claim because it would surely get him shot next round. He'd probably just keep his head down and hope people didn't listen to Radio.
On the other hand, if chunnie is indeed seer, then there are two threats: one of being shot today if people listen to Radio, and one of being eaten tonight if canines listen to Radio. He would try to protect the info he has in that case.
I think chunnie is the seer and will change my vote to Hydra. If Hydra turns out to be human, then chunnie will die tomorrow; if Hydra is wolf, then we move on.
I really hate to see our Seer come out so soon, but he did get one wolf. That said, I have been in games where someone claims to be the Seer and really isn't. The last game that I was a Seer, another player said they were in order to draw me out. I didn't say I was the Seer, but my posts were really studied and I was eaten that night. I really do not like Seer claims when it is not true...
I'm going to believe chunnie and change my vote to Hydra. If chunnie does turn out to be our Seer and Hydra is a wolf, then I'm going to be seriously considering Radio as indicated by chunnie.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
I'm going to believe chunnie and change my vote to Hydra. If chunnie does turn out to be our Seer and Hydra is a wolf, then I'm going to be seriously considering Radio as indicated by chunnie.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
I've spent the better part of the day cleaning out garage and basement for the annual city wide clean up pick up tomorrow, so I'm really a little late coming to the party here. I will join the Hydra vote making it 5 and as others before me have said, I will believe that chunnie is the Seer but if by chance Hydra is id'd as human, will vote to shoot chunnie next round.
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
Formula for success: rise early, work hard, strike oil. J. Paul Getty
I know I should have attempted to divert suspicion, but I've been really tired today, and I didn't think I could have put up a good enough argument to not get eaten tonight (I wasn't really worried about being shot).
For what it's worth, I was going to divine froggygg tonight.
For what it's worth, I was going to divine froggygg tonight.
I'm leaning human on talanpoe and LH.
The ones I'm most suspicious of are
Radioguy
cat
Stewie
I'm neutral on the others.
Good luck, humans!
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The ones I'm most suspicious of are
Radioguy
cat
Stewie
I'm neutral on the others.
Good luck, humans!
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For what it's worth, if anyone would read my post carefully, I said my suspicions for chunnie where because he expressed suspicions right off the bat in a situation where there would be no evidence, so only a Seer or Wolf would do that, and I was playing that the odds of a wolf were simply higher. I'm sorry if I lost the gamble and chunnie actually is the Seer. I really would be interested in hearing Hydra defend himself, but it seems he is not posting. Convenient. So either we have a lying wolf posing as Seer (it has happened many times), or a highly paranoid seer who had no reason to give himself up so quickly.
Granted, I've thrown myself under the bus by this too. I'm actually not a wolf, but of course there's no reason to believe that.
By the way, in case I haven't made myself clear, let me address this quote:
chunnie wrote:
First of all, I only pointed out an action that seemed only logically justified if done by a Wolf or Seer. Since there are three wolves and only one Seer, the odds are highest that said action I pointed out was done by a wolf. Sorry everyone, if indeed I accidentally fingered our Seer. I really am. However, what kind of Seer exposes himself over one small poke? I guess we'll see. What's interesting about this whole thing is that if I were a wolf, that would guarantee that chunnie IS the seer. Yet strangely enough, chunnie being the Seer doesn't prove that I am a wolf. If I were a wolf, nailing chunnie through logic alone would be a stroke of brilliance. If a human, I'm normally playing very safe odds that I actually fingered a wolf.
Also, this:
whoviandeb wrote:
Then let me explain myself. Last round, chunnie expressed suspicions of Hydra simply for voting ICUB because she made a vote without stating it. Since there are no rules demanding that, she didn't actually do anything wrong at all. but simply because Hydra did that, chunnie expressed suspicions. So far so good. But then, to START the next round causing Hydra, we have one of two scenarios:
1. Chunnie is a wolf trying to press an accusation elsewhere to avert suspicion.
2. Chunnie is the Seer.
Statistically, the first possibility is three times more likely to be true. That was in fact the entirety of my reasoning, by which I decided the safest vote for a wolf so far is chunnie. He may be our Seer as he claims, but this isn't the first time a Wolf played Seer. Once again, apologies if he actually is our Seer. Seems a bit shocking he would give himself up so fast.
Oh well. I guess the irony of this situation is that in a game that's supposed to be about logic and deduction, actually using logic and deduction seems to make things worse, not better. At least they're not boring.
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I will now resume lurking silently.
Granted, I've thrown myself under the bus by this too. I'm actually not a wolf, but of course there's no reason to believe that.
By the way, in case I haven't made myself clear, let me address this quote:
chunnie wrote:
You don't go saying someone is either wolf or seer unless you're trying to warn your wolf buddies (who would obviously know that the person isn't a wolf).
First of all, I only pointed out an action that seemed only logically justified if done by a Wolf or Seer. Since there are three wolves and only one Seer, the odds are highest that said action I pointed out was done by a wolf. Sorry everyone, if indeed I accidentally fingered our Seer. I really am. However, what kind of Seer exposes himself over one small poke? I guess we'll see. What's interesting about this whole thing is that if I were a wolf, that would guarantee that chunnie IS the seer. Yet strangely enough, chunnie being the Seer doesn't prove that I am a wolf. If I were a wolf, nailing chunnie through logic alone would be a stroke of brilliance. If a human, I'm normally playing very safe odds that I actually fingered a wolf.
Also, this:
whoviandeb wrote:
As for Radioguy, I thought his entire reasoning for voting for chunnie was ridiculous. Everyone is SPV voting thus far, and chunnie's assertion didn't stick out any further than anyone else's has.
Then let me explain myself. Last round, chunnie expressed suspicions of Hydra simply for voting ICUB because she made a vote without stating it. Since there are no rules demanding that, she didn't actually do anything wrong at all. but simply because Hydra did that, chunnie expressed suspicions. So far so good. But then, to START the next round causing Hydra, we have one of two scenarios:
1. Chunnie is a wolf trying to press an accusation elsewhere to avert suspicion.
2. Chunnie is the Seer.
Statistically, the first possibility is three times more likely to be true. That was in fact the entirety of my reasoning, by which I decided the safest vote for a wolf so far is chunnie. He may be our Seer as he claims, but this isn't the first time a Wolf played Seer. Once again, apologies if he actually is our Seer. Seems a bit shocking he would give himself up so fast.
Oh well. I guess the irony of this situation is that in a game that's supposed to be about logic and deduction, actually using logic and deduction seems to make things worse, not better. At least they're not boring.
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I will now resume lurking silently.
I don't know what to think.
I have played in games where a non seer human has claimed to be seer and really messed up the game.
I have also played games where a wolf has claimed to be the seer,both before and after the real seer has stepped forward.
I will leave my vote as is and let you guys make the choice..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
I have played in games where a non seer human has claimed to be seer and really messed up the game.
I have also played games where a wolf has claimed to be the seer,both before and after the real seer has stepped forward.
I will leave my vote as is and let you guys make the choice..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Well, here I think are some things that can reasonably be deduced, logic riddle style:
1. If I am a wolf, chunnie is the Seer, since a wolf would not risk exposing another wolf.
2. If I am not a wolf, chunnie may be the Seer, but it's three times more likely he is a wolf.
3. If chunnie is not the Seer, he is most likely a wolf.
4. If chunnie is the Seer, than I am either the luckiest wolf ever, or a sadly unlucky human who lost a gamble that had three to one odds of winning.
Also, after Night falls, assuming Hydra is shot:
1. If chunnie is eaten, he was most likely the Seer.
2. If anyone but chunnie is eaten, chunnie is most likely a wolf.
3. If neither chunnie or I are eaten, then the wolves really like to gamble, and this will be FUN!!! (Hint: Wolves, if you are reading this, please consider this option. Who wants a boring game, after all?)
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Now the best part about this, regardless the circumstances, at least one wolf is guaranteed to die this round or next. Hooray, humans!
I will now resume lurking silently.
1. If I am a wolf, chunnie is the Seer, since a wolf would not risk exposing another wolf.
2. If I am not a wolf, chunnie may be the Seer, but it's three times more likely he is a wolf.
3. If chunnie is not the Seer, he is most likely a wolf.
4. If chunnie is the Seer, than I am either the luckiest wolf ever, or a sadly unlucky human who lost a gamble that had three to one odds of winning.
Also, after Night falls, assuming Hydra is shot:
1. If chunnie is eaten, he was most likely the Seer.
2. If anyone but chunnie is eaten, chunnie is most likely a wolf.
3. If neither chunnie or I are eaten, then the wolves really like to gamble, and this will be FUN!!! (Hint: Wolves, if you are reading this, please consider this option. Who wants a boring game, after all?)
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Now the best part about this, regardless the circumstances, at least one wolf is guaranteed to die this round or next. Hooray, humans!
I will now resume lurking silently.
One more observation before I go to bed:
With all the outrage on me apparently fingering the Seer by mistake, why is NO ONE voting to shoot ME? If everyone is SO SURE that chunnie is telling the truth, then I might as well be a wolf. Shoot me, please. I'm either the smartest wolf or the dumbest human, and either way, not much good letting me stick around. Wouldn't it make sense? Why are so many people just believing chunnie, yet not doing the most logical thing, which would be to shoot Radio tonight, Hydra tomorrow? After all, you've already nailed Hydra, so you might as well let him stick around one more round to see if he trips up and reveals any of his buddies by mistake. If chunnie is not the Seer (odds are still best he's a wolf), then the people who simply shoot Hydra because he said so should be under close scrutiny in the following rounds.
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I will now resume lurking silently.
With all the outrage on me apparently fingering the Seer by mistake, why is NO ONE voting to shoot ME? If everyone is SO SURE that chunnie is telling the truth, then I might as well be a wolf. Shoot me, please. I'm either the smartest wolf or the dumbest human, and either way, not much good letting me stick around. Wouldn't it make sense? Why are so many people just believing chunnie, yet not doing the most logical thing, which would be to shoot Radio tonight, Hydra tomorrow? After all, you've already nailed Hydra, so you might as well let him stick around one more round to see if he trips up and reveals any of his buddies by mistake. If chunnie is not the Seer (odds are still best he's a wolf), then the people who simply shoot Hydra because he said so should be under close scrutiny in the following rounds.
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I will now resume lurking silently.
Because the easiest way to see if chunnie is right is by shooting Hydra.
Plus why wait to shoot a wolf? The more rounds that go by without a wolf caught, the worse our overall odds.
It's a disease, not a punch line
Plus why wait to shoot a wolf? The more rounds that go by without a wolf caught, the worse our overall odds.
It's a disease, not a punch line
You got me. Whoviandeb is the other wolf. And I would at least give a wolf fighting chance.
All fields of science are just applied physics.
All fields of science are just applied physics.
Sorry I basically misse thi entire round, I am just gonna put in a random for poe, just for the protection of te seer.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
Wow....this round is still going on. 5 votes on Hydra.
Radio does not seem wolf to me.
If Hydra is a wolf why out the other one?
This is getting weird.
Stewie? Did you even read the game posts this round??? Think we found the wolves here LOL.
If Chunnie is telling thruth then we got them all.
Voting to end round. 25 mins left.
Will revisit next round!
Like what you love, and love what you got.
Radio does not seem wolf to me.
If Hydra is a wolf why out the other one?
This is getting weird.
Stewie? Did you even read the game posts this round??? Think we found the wolves here LOL.
If Chunnie is telling thruth then we got them all.
Voting to end round. 25 mins left.
Will revisit next round!
Like what you love, and love what you got.
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