The Werewolf Game
Game #3187: C&I(XXXV) The way we used to be.
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RFM
Thanks Harry. Drunk again, I will post the story in the morning when I wake(sober) up.
everyone woke up and went about their usual morning routine, not suspecting much and trying to keep a straight face despite everything that had happened recently. Though deep down inside everyone knew that none of them were safe.
later that day while out hunting, Jayo, The Spider, Harryputter, Logic, Radio, catmandon, kzmonopoly and Theaverage came across cabs abandoned body. Taken by surprise at first, then sadness. How did this happen? Why did it have to be cab? She was still so young and full of life... Life can be too cruel at times. "Great, just what we need more of our tribe gone. I don't know about the rest of you but I for one will no rest until I make those who are responsible for this pay." A visibly angry Harry stated. "Yeah I am growing tired of this violence too, but how are we going to put a stop to this and find those responsible?" Radio piped in adding. "After all we know we have gotten one of them but according to the chief there are two more potential traitors out there and they are covering their tracks so well that no one has any idea who they are even remotely yet".
"Guys, guys we can worry about this when we get back, we should finisht the hunt and bring cabs body back for a proper burial, like she deserves. Then we can discuss what to do next as a group". The Spider stated. "He's right you know," cat agreed "we won't get much done standing around all day" Without another word said they continued hunting.A few hours later after a rather successful hunt they returned to camp with mixed emotions as the rest of the camp noticed the body of their dear close friend cab.
HABS was the first to speak "what happened I was worried ,I hadn't seen her all day but this" tears welling up in her eye. froggy went over and comforted her to help her calm her emotions down. "Well we can't just leave her body lying out in the open we will bury her this evening" she stated. gfter enjoying the meal in angered silence everyone got to work on saying their fiinal farewell to their fallen friend.
After the funeral, it was judgement time again The chief came as usual gun in hand. Only this time was different. stating that instead of coming to a decision himself he asked for everyone to vote, going as far as saying that all are in this together and if he can' trust anyone indevidually he still has faith in the tribe itself.
Everyone stated thier concern and suspicions. As more and more people hesitantly voted, the tension in the air built, and as the last few people stated votes. There was a sense of doom in the end. The chief took a moment to tally the votes and realised that Theaverage was the one the group had chosen. Knowing what was coming he pleaded his innocense but no one was listening to him, seeing no other choice he bolted. Everyone chaced in hot pursuit, it was not long before they caught up to him.The chief walked up to him whilst the rest of the tribe, without thinking the gun was pointed at him and Theaverage knew it was his time.BANG! Everything was silent once again. As they walked back to camp thhey noticed another body. Upon further inspection they noticed it was HABS. covered in arrows and leaning against a tree, in an unusual way she looked like she was peacefully sleeping. Even though she had met a brutal end. Well it looks like there is going to be more buried tomorrow. "Let's hope we can end this asap and move on from this nightmare" whovi said as the rest of the tribe remained silent after a long hard day.
Theaverage was human.
Also to avoid any more confusion to the subject, I will state whenever/if the seer is eliminated from the game. Good luck and I will see you all in the morning. By which I mean afternoon my time, which will be morning for most of you.
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Thanks Harry. Drunk again, I will post the story in the morning when I wake(sober) up.
everyone woke up and went about their usual morning routine, not suspecting much and trying to keep a straight face despite everything that had happened recently. Though deep down inside everyone knew that none of them were safe.
later that day while out hunting, Jayo, The Spider, Harryputter, Logic, Radio, catmandon, kzmonopoly and Theaverage came across cabs abandoned body. Taken by surprise at first, then sadness. How did this happen? Why did it have to be cab? She was still so young and full of life... Life can be too cruel at times. "Great, just what we need more of our tribe gone. I don't know about the rest of you but I for one will no rest until I make those who are responsible for this pay." A visibly angry Harry stated. "Yeah I am growing tired of this violence too, but how are we going to put a stop to this and find those responsible?" Radio piped in adding. "After all we know we have gotten one of them but according to the chief there are two more potential traitors out there and they are covering their tracks so well that no one has any idea who they are even remotely yet".
"Guys, guys we can worry about this when we get back, we should finisht the hunt and bring cabs body back for a proper burial, like she deserves. Then we can discuss what to do next as a group". The Spider stated. "He's right you know," cat agreed "we won't get much done standing around all day" Without another word said they continued hunting.A few hours later after a rather successful hunt they returned to camp with mixed emotions as the rest of the camp noticed the body of their dear close friend cab.
HABS was the first to speak "what happened I was worried ,I hadn't seen her all day but this" tears welling up in her eye. froggy went over and comforted her to help her calm her emotions down. "Well we can't just leave her body lying out in the open we will bury her this evening" she stated. gfter enjoying the meal in angered silence everyone got to work on saying their fiinal farewell to their fallen friend.
After the funeral, it was judgement time again The chief came as usual gun in hand. Only this time was different. stating that instead of coming to a decision himself he asked for everyone to vote, going as far as saying that all are in this together and if he can' trust anyone indevidually he still has faith in the tribe itself.
Everyone stated thier concern and suspicions. As more and more people hesitantly voted, the tension in the air built, and as the last few people stated votes. There was a sense of doom in the end. The chief took a moment to tally the votes and realised that Theaverage was the one the group had chosen. Knowing what was coming he pleaded his innocense but no one was listening to him, seeing no other choice he bolted. Everyone chaced in hot pursuit, it was not long before they caught up to him.The chief walked up to him whilst the rest of the tribe, without thinking the gun was pointed at him and Theaverage knew it was his time.BANG! Everything was silent once again. As they walked back to camp thhey noticed another body. Upon further inspection they noticed it was HABS. covered in arrows and leaning against a tree, in an unusual way she looked like she was peacefully sleeping. Even though she had met a brutal end. Well it looks like there is going to be more buried tomorrow. "Let's hope we can end this asap and move on from this nightmare" whovi said as the rest of the tribe remained silent after a long hard day.
Theaverage was human.
Also to avoid any more confusion to the subject, I will state whenever/if the seer is eliminated from the game. Good luck and I will see you all in the morning. By which I mean afternoon my time, which will be morning for most of you.
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SPV
will post substance tmrw...still hung up on the Cab eating....Deb is in my possibiles list....maybe Rog
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
will post substance tmrw...still hung up on the Cab eating....Deb is in my possibiles list....maybe Rog
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Third round spv vote.
hung up on the Cab eating?? Why not HAB eating??
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
hung up on the Cab eating?? Why not HAB eating??
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Cause its a far less interesting eating
and the Rog slight suspicion even then tips in that direction
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
and the Rog slight suspicion even then tips in that direction
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I am finally here and I think I am coming down with something
I would not eat cab, I haven't played with her in a while
I will vote someone, but is subject to change
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I would not eat cab, I haven't played with her in a while
I will vote someone, but is subject to change
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Interesting that harry didn't vote
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If I was a wolf, I wouldn't even chance voting to eat someone who voted for me. I'm never that cocky because it will put suspicion on me, whether it seems unlikely because of its more likely to be a framing or not. Also, I was too busy seeing Zootopia and Cloverfield yesterday to comment on it, but a wolf wouldn't be foolish enough to push to end a round early, would they? Look how long it took to end the round because no wolf would dare look suspicious. Assuming I'm wolfish for putting an unnecessary vote is a bit odd, to me. My vote was unneeded, granted, but not wolfish.
Looking through the last round, I think KZ gets my vote for lying low last round but also for voting for Habs but sticking with her. That might also be a possible frame or just a regular coincidence, but it could also be someone who is focused on getting rid of Habs. I'll check in later to see how things are.
Edit: Okay, so our seer's still here. Good. But, just a note to the seer, if you wasted a round on me I'm going to kick you and then me.
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Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
Looking through the last round, I think KZ gets my vote for lying low last round but also for voting for Habs but sticking with her. That might also be a possible frame or just a regular coincidence, but it could also be someone who is focused on getting rid of Habs. I'll check in later to see how things are.
Edit: Okay, so our seer's still here. Good. But, just a note to the seer, if you wasted a round on me I'm going to kick you and then me.
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Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
SPV for Cat. Subject to change.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
debc1 wrote:
HP voted for HABS last round. If you're talking about this round, maybe he just had time to safe a spot for the mod.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Interesting that harry didn't vote
HP voted for HABS last round. If you're talking about this round, maybe he just had time to safe a spot for the mod.
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Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Random SPV for Radioguy.
It's a disease, not a punch line
It's a disease, not a punch line
I also try not to spv until I know there is still a seer to protect...ID think the habs eating is more interesting, spid. Not really surprising that an inactive gets eaten in a game full of actives in round 1
Habs made a few people nervous last round
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Habs made a few people nervous last round
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SPV for Snowy since she does not have a vote yet. I may change back to my last round vote for KZ because I still have my suspicions but not enough to put him into a majority yet since LR voted for him.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
SPV for froggy for now. Not much jumping out at me so far.
I will now resume lurking silently.
I will now resume lurking silently.
Wow. Thanks Radio for putting me in the only majority even though you say it is just an SPV.
Still over 15 hours left before the round ends. I'm off to bed and will check back in the morning and change my vote if needed...
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Still over 15 hours left before the round ends. I'm off to bed and will check back in the morning and change my vote if needed...
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
HarryPutter wrote:
Regarding the SPV, I simply cannot fathom this approach. It would be one thing if you didnt value SPVs in general (Chang) or we are talking late game...potential must lynch...but other than that what is the possible point? Should the seer wait too or should we all just SPV and if there is no seer....well....nothing happens...
Harry has a sort of hollowed out, pod person vibe this game, like he is trying to meld into an expectation. The HABS eating is just another random eating early in the game. It could point to Log, it could point to nobody, 'making people nervous' without analysis as to what exactly that entails, again, rings hollow. Cabs is a far more telling eating imo. As you yourself acknowledged, it's not even a typical kill the inactives eating, as Average was a far better bet for that type of eating. We have a wolf or wolves who threw away a chance to hit the seer (ALREADY down a man). That is a real piece of data. Going to catch up on the rest of the posts/vibe of the round.
If you want to look at the HABS eating, other than KZ/Log, who was being made nervous?
Apologies to KZ for the female/male mix up, I just tend to lock in on my first impression, I will try to remember
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I also try not to spv until I know there is still a seer to protect...ID think the habs eating is more interesting, spid. Not really surprising that an inactive gets eaten in a game full of actives in round 1
Habs made a few people nervous last round
Habs made a few people nervous last round
Regarding the SPV, I simply cannot fathom this approach. It would be one thing if you didnt value SPVs in general (Chang) or we are talking late game...potential must lynch...but other than that what is the possible point? Should the seer wait too or should we all just SPV and if there is no seer....well....nothing happens...
Harry has a sort of hollowed out, pod person vibe this game, like he is trying to meld into an expectation. The HABS eating is just another random eating early in the game. It could point to Log, it could point to nobody, 'making people nervous' without analysis as to what exactly that entails, again, rings hollow. Cabs is a far more telling eating imo. As you yourself acknowledged, it's not even a typical kill the inactives eating, as Average was a far better bet for that type of eating. We have a wolf or wolves who threw away a chance to hit the seer (ALREADY down a man). That is a real piece of data. Going to catch up on the rest of the posts/vibe of the round.
If you want to look at the HABS eating, other than KZ/Log, who was being made nervous?
Apologies to KZ for the female/male mix up, I just tend to lock in on my first impression, I will try to remember
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
KZ has some range of possibility/culpability in both eatings, considering the 2/2 voting status I can either push it more in that direction or wait for others to offer alternatives. If KZ is not a wolf (barring something interesting doesnt break later on) there will be some pieces to put together.
My vote is changeable and not solid but maybe we can put some direction into the discussion.
voting KZ
EDIT: sorry I thought it was already 2-2, it is NOW 2-2
catmandon voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for Jayo
froggygg voted for snowmonster
HarryPutter voted for froggygg
LogicalRoger voted for kzmonopoly
Radioguy voted for froggygg
snowmonster voted for catmandon
The_Spider voted for kzmonopoly
whoviandeb voted for Radioguy
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
My vote is changeable and not solid but maybe we can put some direction into the discussion.
voting KZ
EDIT: sorry I thought it was already 2-2, it is NOW 2-2
catmandon voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for Jayo
froggygg voted for snowmonster
HarryPutter voted for froggygg
LogicalRoger voted for kzmonopoly
Radioguy voted for froggygg
snowmonster voted for catmandon
The_Spider voted for kzmonopoly
whoviandeb voted for Radioguy
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well if we had to shoot a human I guess that was as good an option as we had
Seer protection incoming, no mega hunches or any such for now
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Seer protection incoming, no mega hunches or any such for now
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
I don't like the idea of spving in general just because it provides less info to work with. I don't mind waiting to spv in cases I know I'll be active enough to lock my vote in anyway, that's why I'm happy to delay if I can.
I'll add more in a bit
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I am not buying it harry, I don't remember you acting this way before
Kaz has been a wolf a lot of times
Voting for sir harry the toot
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Kaz has been a wolf a lot of times
Voting for sir harry the toot
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Ive always felt this way about spv if you look at all of my past games, I usually tend to avoid even saying it because I want to try to provoke the person I'm voting for rather than throw a random soft vote on them that provides no info. I believe my position has been very consistent
Anyway, while the cab eating said something, the habs Eating is far more significant just because she was provoking people. I think spid is the one "off" this game just considering that it really can't be that surprising an inactive is eaten round 1 in an active game.
Given that, I am going to vote for habs lead suspect and the person spider is seemingly trying to protect ROG
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Anyway, while the cab eating said something, the habs Eating is far more significant just because she was provoking people. I think spid is the one "off" this game just considering that it really can't be that surprising an inactive is eaten round 1 in an active game.
Given that, I am going to vote for habs lead suspect and the person spider is seemingly trying to protect ROG
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Harry your analysis of me is so forced and strained, I don't know if you are lashing out in an odd response to scrutiny or you are a wolf, but this lame attempt to go on the offensive against me says one or the other.
Are you suggesting I (with two other options available) shot a partner, then ate an 'at-best' non impacting seer? And then I named Log twice as a possible suspect this round but I am 'protecting him'. The sole source of this "protection" being 'I dont find the HABS eating all that relevant". I'm literally the only person to HAVE mentioned Roger as a suspect. (I also then went forward and joined my partners vote?) Again this is either a pure lash out, or a poorly considered 'counter-offensive' aimed at discredting me.
Apparantly I have to repeat this distinction yet again, but eating an "inactive" (I would hardly consider Cab an inactive at that point) is is a far different move when a wolf is ALREADY dead and the seer is in play. This distinction is obvious, and you are aware it exists, yet seemingly content to pretend it doesnt.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Are you suggesting I (with two other options available) shot a partner, then ate an 'at-best' non impacting seer? And then I named Log twice as a possible suspect this round but I am 'protecting him'. The sole source of this "protection" being 'I dont find the HABS eating all that relevant". I'm literally the only person to HAVE mentioned Roger as a suspect. (I also then went forward and joined my partners vote?) Again this is either a pure lash out, or a poorly considered 'counter-offensive' aimed at discredting me.
Apparantly I have to repeat this distinction yet again, but eating an "inactive" (I would hardly consider Cab an inactive at that point) is is a far different move when a wolf is ALREADY dead and the seer is in play. This distinction is obvious, and you are aware it exists, yet seemingly content to pretend it doesnt.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Ooooh. Sorry I'm late. This game must have started pretty early.
Voting for the young man who is unsurpassed in his hunting skills.
Ooooooh! Nice!
Voting for the young man who is unsurpassed in his hunting skills.
Ooooooh! Nice!
There doesn't seem to be a majority besides the one I'm in, but I don't have a reason to switch my vote right now.
For the record, again, I don't believe I have ever eaten a player who was suspicious of me. It's not what I do. That said, Harry does seem to be acting very ... strange. But I don't know what a wolf would have to gain from such an argument. I know there are some wolves that like to double bluff, but I dunno.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
For the record, again, I don't believe I have ever eaten a player who was suspicious of me. It's not what I do. That said, Harry does seem to be acting very ... strange. But I don't know what a wolf would have to gain from such an argument. I know there are some wolves that like to double bluff, but I dunno.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
I'm not acting strange at all. There just seems to be a movement here to ignore the obvious.
HABS went after Rog. Cab is known for knowing Rog's tendencies in WWGs (she even has a picture of it in her wiki), giving him plenty of reason to eat her. Why is KZ the main suspect?
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HABS went after Rog. Cab is known for knowing Rog's tendencies in WWGs (she even has a picture of it in her wiki), giving him plenty of reason to eat her. Why is KZ the main suspect?
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Well, if your info about Cab/Rog is correct that is a definite good piece of data, Though that's quite a sign of weakness from Rog if he felt the need to target Cab over that given the situation. The only person (save yourself) to be bringing up the obvious was myself (suspicions of KZ/Rog) so it seems like a contortion to use my 'protection' of Rog as a basis for voting him. Especially in light of me having the current best case for humanity (if we are going to mention ignoring the obvious).
I choose KZ (mistakenly believing her to be in a tie majority as it was) for reasons somewhat explained. I felt she had culpability in two potential eatings. If you are right about Cab/Rog then so does Rog.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I choose KZ (mistakenly believing her to be in a tie majority as it was) for reasons somewhat explained. I felt she had culpability in two potential eatings. If you are right about Cab/Rog then so does Rog.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Lol at that picture on Cab's wiki. I've been boss a number of times, but I haven't played Werewolf in a while (before recently) and even then I don't remember the amount of times I've been wolf. It's infrequent but I usually do the same thing. If any of y'all know my playing style, in general, then the point about eating Cab is entirely moot. I don't care for inactives, especially if I'm a baddie, and I hide in the shadows. What would be the point of killing off someone that knows my strategy only to go completely against my usual strategy anyways? :/
It is usual for me to defend myself, though. The good old days, indeed.
Harry, if you're a wolf then you're one of the most obvious wolves I've seen. Try harder.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
It is usual for me to defend myself, though. The good old days, indeed.
Harry, if you're a wolf then you're one of the most obvious wolves I've seen. Try harder.
Why didn't the Libertarian cross the road?
Froggy, I guess I didn't see other votes for you earlier when I voted. Given the progress since then, it seems like Harry is acting quite wolfish. Changing to Harry for now.
I will now resume lurking silently.
I will now resume lurking silently.
Will be back before end of round, expect to hear from quite a few people considering the ideal time frame of the end of the round here.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Well I will make a move then. I've been sitting back reading the round and there's just something about Harry's posts that sound too restrained - as if he's carefulyy wording things. Going with my gut and voting HP.
It's a disease, not a punch line
It's a disease, not a punch line
I like how people who don't play WWG with me often are saying I'm acting wolfish, as if they know my wolf habits
Not sure how to defend myself against that. And have no idea where the restraint is in my posts I'm literally the only one accusing people based on the available evidence while everyone else is being speculative.
I guess I'll have no choice but to vote kz considering I have no way to argue against the wild imaginations of my accusers.
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Not sure how to defend myself against that. And have no idea where the restraint is in my posts I'm literally the only one accusing people based on the available evidence while everyone else is being speculative.
I guess I'll have no choice but to vote kz considering I have no way to argue against the wild imaginations of my accusers.
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I think to much deception has hit Harry, he is going off the deep end
I need to look back at some games because for the life of me I don't remember him having this "thing" about spving
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I need to look back at some games because for the life of me I don't remember him having this "thing" about spving
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I've always said this about SPV!! I wish I could easily do a wwg search to show you I've been saying it for years
The only times I legitimately SPV is if I'm too lazy to think (possibly intoxicated ) or I might not have time to later make an informed vote. Otherwise I do my best to avoid it when I know I'll have a chance to really give things a look over, especially a few rounds into the game. I appreciate and understand the concept of SPVing, but I don't like the lazy/random aspect of it. I like provoking and putting pressure on people so I can gain information from them, thus I avoid it when it's safe for me to do so.
Luckily there is now more reason to keep me around since a bunch of pairs can be eliminated for me
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The only times I legitimately SPV is if I'm too lazy to think (possibly intoxicated ) or I might not have time to later make an informed vote. Otherwise I do my best to avoid it when I know I'll have a chance to really give things a look over, especially a few rounds into the game. I appreciate and understand the concept of SPVing, but I don't like the lazy/random aspect of it. I like provoking and putting pressure on people so I can gain information from them, thus I avoid it when it's safe for me to do so.
Luckily there is now more reason to keep me around since a bunch of pairs can be eliminated for me
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You might not say spv, like I usually don't either, but you still vote, it's not like it is a real gun
You can always change it.
If you do poke and pressure, I have never really been aware of it(before you vote)...it is always a possibility....possibly...I guess...perhaps
If Harry is a wolf I would look at snow next
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You can always change it.
If you do poke and pressure, I have never really been aware of it(before you vote)...it is always a possibility....possibly...I guess...perhaps
If Harry is a wolf I would look at snow next
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I dont think Harry is a wolf, I think he just had a little competitive backlash when I accused him.
I am stuck in a majority defending Harry atm. I like Harry's info regarding Log and would be ameniable to that switch or several others
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I am stuck in a majority defending Harry atm. I like Harry's info regarding Log and would be ameniable to that switch or several others
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Like I said, it adds no weight to the vote if I just say SPV. It puts no pressure on the person I'm voting for to defend themselves. I do actually like SPV, but more accurately I don't like what it's perceived as which is why I avoid it when it's safe to do so (i.e. I know I'll be able to get back on and vote).
I don't know how a simple RFM has led to me explaining my WWG philosophy and strategy
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I don't know how a simple RFM has led to me explaining my WWG philosophy and strategy
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catmandon voted for The_Spider
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
froggygg voted for snowmonster
HarryPutter voted for kzmonopoly
Jayo voted for whoviandeb
kzmonopoly voted for Jayo
LogicalRoger voted for kzmonopoly
Radioguy voted for HarryPutter
snowmonster voted for catmandon
The_Spider voted for kzmonopoly
whoviandeb voted for HarryPutter
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
debc1 voted for HarryPutter
froggygg voted for snowmonster
HarryPutter voted for kzmonopoly
Jayo voted for whoviandeb
kzmonopoly voted for Jayo
LogicalRoger voted for kzmonopoly
Radioguy voted for HarryPutter
snowmonster voted for catmandon
The_Spider voted for kzmonopoly
whoviandeb voted for HarryPutter
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Sorry Hun your just acting weird
Jays knows about that
Dan, you just can't vote Harry
Not buying the rog thing, could be wrong, sticking to my vote
Oh and kaz is a guy
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Jays knows about that
Dan, you just can't vote Harry
Not buying the rog thing, could be wrong, sticking to my vote
Oh and kaz is a guy
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HarryPutter wrote:
I don't know how a simple RFM has led to me explaining my WWG philosophy and strategy
Because it does
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I don't know how a simple RFM has led to me explaining my WWG philosophy and strategy
Because it does
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The non-vote thing is meaningless to me as a point of suspicion, i just find it odd for people who like to SPV to 'wait for the mod' even worse is when they find people who SPV before waiting for the mod suspicious...this kind of blows my mind....but it's not a point of contention as far as finding wolves goes atm.
I think Harry rushed into a misguided attack on me, possibly as a wolf going on the offensive (its in the playbook), but more likely as a just a bit of gamesmanship against me. I could be wrong, dont forget the game where I didnt vote Harry was the one where I thought he was a wolf from very early on based on his carelessness of not reading the end round summary (the seer was killed and he didnt notice).
If Harry is a wolf with Paladin it sure was careless of him to let the day pass without any input. Harry tends to have to make a 'play' when faced with a partner getting shot so I think he would have done SOMETHING if Paladin was in the mix. Iunno, I need to get a soda
Im all for wolves doing favors by eating inactives (in some cases) but if Harry ate Cab that is bending over backwards and just is kind of more of a spineless move...hopefully that's a little too sad a move for Harry
fyi my read is Deb is almost certainly human (even though she is once again using the gamblers fallacy on KZ...I think...maybe she didnt but i thought she did )
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think Harry rushed into a misguided attack on me, possibly as a wolf going on the offensive (its in the playbook), but more likely as a just a bit of gamesmanship against me. I could be wrong, dont forget the game where I didnt vote Harry was the one where I thought he was a wolf from very early on based on his carelessness of not reading the end round summary (the seer was killed and he didnt notice).
If Harry is a wolf with Paladin it sure was careless of him to let the day pass without any input. Harry tends to have to make a 'play' when faced with a partner getting shot so I think he would have done SOMETHING if Paladin was in the mix. Iunno, I need to get a soda
Im all for wolves doing favors by eating inactives (in some cases) but if Harry ate Cab that is bending over backwards and just is kind of more of a spineless move...hopefully that's a little too sad a move for Harry
fyi my read is Deb is almost certainly human (even though she is once again using the gamblers fallacy on KZ...I think...maybe she didnt but i thought she did )
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Lots of ideas being thrown around..
Think I'll leave my vote as is and worry about next round..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Think I'll leave my vote as is and worry about next round..
The early bird gets the worm,but the second rat gets the cheese..
Can we at least all agree that the reasons for voting for me are imaginary ? And there are clearly far better candidates to shoot for tangible reasons?
The sad movss in this game don't involve me. the sad move will be shooting an active and productive human for reasons that can't be defended against. Any human that doesn't recognize that will be complicit in this egrigious act
If nothing changes and the gods of Koin decide I must die, I will say I think spider and deb are human. Radio and whovs reason for voting me just makes absolutely no sense to me....not sure if it's wolf logic to get out a threat early, or if they just feel the need to grasp at straws for whatever reason (when there's tangible evidence we can follow against other players). Rog is suspicious to me. I have no idea what kz is up to, but I'm more useful than him at least
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The sad movss in this game don't involve me. the sad move will be shooting an active and productive human for reasons that can't be defended against. Any human that doesn't recognize that will be complicit in this egrigious act
If nothing changes and the gods of Koin decide I must die, I will say I think spider and deb are human. Radio and whovs reason for voting me just makes absolutely no sense to me....not sure if it's wolf logic to get out a threat early, or if they just feel the need to grasp at straws for whatever reason (when there's tangible evidence we can follow against other players). Rog is suspicious to me. I have no idea what kz is up to, but I'm more useful than him at least
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HarryPutter wrote:
There really isn't any tangible reasons to vote anyone right now. The rog thing is just as imaginary. I didn't know you were so dramatic.
I could be wrong about you Harry
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Can we at least all agree that the reasons for voting for me are imaginary ? And there are clearly far better candidates to shoot for tangible reasons?
The sad movss in this game don't involve me. the sad move will be shooting an active and productive human for reasons that can't be defended against. Any human that doesn't recognize that will be complicit in this egrigious act
The sad movss in this game don't involve me. the sad move will be shooting an active and productive human for reasons that can't be defended against. Any human that doesn't recognize that will be complicit in this egrigious act
There really isn't any tangible reasons to vote anyone right now. The rog thing is just as imaginary. I didn't know you were so dramatic.
I could be wrong about you Harry
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This is the only possible way to sway Deb
I dont think Harry would play this tactic as a wolf....few wolves have the nerve for this kind of attack...it's one thing to be aggressive as a human, but its really difficult to stifle your conscious and say something like this to people you know are right about you ....but i will leave the choice up to you Deb
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I dont think Harry would play this tactic as a wolf....few wolves have the nerve for this kind of attack...it's one thing to be aggressive as a human, but its really difficult to stifle your conscious and say something like this to people you know are right about you ....but i will leave the choice up to you Deb
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The rog thing isn't imaginary at all! When someone is killed while the wolves are seer hunting and they are putting pressure on a player, this is the best evidence you can have in a wwg. This is something tangible we can look at and analyze.
Just saying I'm acting weird is just in your head since it's a subjective. There's nothing I can say to argue against that. I think it's fine to use that point if there's nothing to go on, but I think there is more than enough for us to go on right now. We don't need to depend so much on gut feeling.
And plus keeping me in the game at this point is useful since there are plenty of people I can be eliminated from being a wolf pair with. You can already begin to question who my partner would be because I've had a bunch of targets on my back this round. That will be very helpful late game
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Just saying I'm acting weird is just in your head since it's a subjective. There's nothing I can say to argue against that. I think it's fine to use that point if there's nothing to go on, but I think there is more than enough for us to go on right now. We don't need to depend so much on gut feeling.
And plus keeping me in the game at this point is useful since there are plenty of people I can be eliminated from being a wolf pair with. You can already begin to question who my partner would be because I've had a bunch of targets on my back this round. That will be very helpful late game
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You are making me feel bad
I didn't see habs really pushing for rog
Really dan
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I didn't see habs really pushing for rog
Really dan
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Seers rarely push for their divines, they always give half reasons for their vote since they don't want to give away that they're the seer.
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4 mins to the koin flip...heads (human) or tails (wolf). I suspect this is the dreaded 2 headed koin, and heads will roll
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If I was Rog I probably wouldnt have felt too threatend by HABS (as in her being seer) but its a possible angle....given the choice is Harry/KZ (KZ was on to vote but didnt ) Im ok with going KZ, like I said, wolves don't really try to shame humans the way Harry did.
I got my soda
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I got my soda
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
But seers always make those soft-type votes so they don't give themselves away. It wasn't about an immediate threat necessarily.
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kz was human.
Congrats on the soda Dan.
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Congrats on the soda Dan.
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