Who's The Boss
Game #1140: None of the President's Men
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Hey! That's not fair! I might just fish vote for you back Mister!
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I wonder who Snowmonster would vote for if I vote for her.
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Awww . . man, then I"d have to stick you in a bag with tommy and see who I pulled out!
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
*too busy eating to care about pulling food-based pranks*
Anyway, Hadleigh said she voted for chidam, so if she was honest about that and remembered to cast her vote, chidam should be cleared. The president misspelled "neon", which may have been a genuine typo or a deliberate attempt to throw us off. Just for the sake of research, nion is "the Irish name of the fifth letter of the Ogham alphabet", which seems extremely irrelevant.
*finishes eating and happily dumps out salt and adds sugar while unscrewing the salt shaker tops*
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
Anyway, Hadleigh said she voted for chidam, so if she was honest about that and remembered to cast her vote, chidam should be cleared. The president misspelled "neon", which may have been a genuine typo or a deliberate attempt to throw us off. Just for the sake of research, nion is "the Irish name of the fifth letter of the Ogham alphabet", which seems extremely irrelevant.
*finishes eating and happily dumps out salt and adds sugar while unscrewing the salt shaker tops*
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4demo wrote:
What's this, an admission from our spoil sport..?
*too busy eating to care about pulling food-based pranks*
What's this, an admission from our spoil sport..?
Since teddy and I are still around, I'm putting in another vote for Pop_Qla.
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Off to bigger and better things... ta-ta! ♪♫
I'm voting for Obama... I mean Carlos... I mean Winner4600.
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I think I'll stick with tommy. . . . at least he made up his mind easily . . . Don't worry Trill, maybe I'll fish for you next round. . .
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Um... unless teddy is the Boss or Rat, Pop_Qla is definitely the Boss... But thanks for voting for me! I suppose I should feel honored?
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How do you figure this to be?
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Winner and teddy both voted for Pop last round, so they would have been the only names on the firing list as lemmings (assuming that Hadleigh wasn't a mandatory). Since Hadleigh, who should not have been in any majority, was fired, Winner and teddy must not have been on the firing list, so either Pop is the political aspirer or Winner and/or teddy is/are the political aspirer and/or prankster. Despite Winner not counting herself, she cannot be ruled out, of course, since of course the political aspirer or prankster would claim to be a typical... bureaucrat, was it (I meant the term for employee)?
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
This is assuming all stated honestly who they voted for, right? If they, or at least one of them were dishonest. . . then your theory wouldn't work. . . (just thinking out loud . . )
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Oops, did I not mention that? Yes, that's also a very important assumption, of course.
If we assume Winner and teddy are both employees, then Pop is almost certainly the political aspirant (I think that's better than "aspirer", right?). I think it's fairly likely that one of them is the political aspirant or his assistant treacherous prankster, though, since I don't know why Hadleigh of all people would have been fired, as Chidam wasn't under any actual suspicion or anything. Snow voted for Hadleigh, but that doesn't seem to fit either way...
Why do I feel as if I'm talking circles around myself again?
"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it, however." - Richard Bach
If we assume Winner and teddy are both employees, then Pop is almost certainly the political aspirant (I think that's better than "aspirer", right?). I think it's fairly likely that one of them is the political aspirant or his assistant treacherous prankster, though, since I don't know why Hadleigh of all people would have been fired, as Chidam wasn't under any actual suspicion or anything. Snow voted for Hadleigh, but that doesn't seem to fit either way...
Why do I feel as if I'm talking circles around myself again?
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Well, as I'm still here and I know I'm not the boss or rat, my vote is definitely going to Pop_Qla again. Unless Winner is the boss/rat, we both should have been fired last round.
Post from TRILLIONAIRE deleted on 2008-11-10 21:49:11.
I think it might be Winner... look at all her posts this round; they're a little suspicious.
Winner4600 wrote:
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Winner4600 wrote:
Um... unless teddy is the Boss or Rat, Pop_Qla is definitely the Boss...
This isn't true. The boss could have just been waiting a while to submit the memo, or the moderator may have waited.
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Another interesting part is that Pop_Qla hasn't posted in the 1st round though she was online, but she didn't get fired which implies that either she has voted or she is the boss. So she must have been following the game closely but not posting. The boss also as we know from the post about the pretzel incident is very keen on the game postings. So I see something fishy about Pop's not posting in here.
TRILLIONAIRE wrote:
I think you're the... sidekick? rat? I don't remember the term and I'm too lazy to look it up. We've already established that both teddy and I should have been on the firing list for getting into a majority, but we weren't. Unless one of us was the political aspirer/whatever, Pop is definitely guilty. And here you are, saying that my post is "suspicious". Nope... in my opinion, Pop is the "boss" and Trill is the "rat" (*terms in quotes because of laziness*)
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I think it might be Winner... look at all her posts this round; they're a little suspicious.
Winner4600 wrote:
Winner4600 wrote:
Um... unless teddy is the Boss or Rat, Pop_Qla is definitely the Boss...
This isn't true. The boss could have just been waiting a while to submit the memo, or the moderator may have waited.I think you're the... sidekick? rat? I don't remember the term and I'm too lazy to look it up. We've already established that both teddy and I should have been on the firing list for getting into a majority, but we weren't. Unless one of us was the political aspirer/whatever, Pop is definitely guilty. And here you are, saying that my post is "suspicious". Nope... in my opinion, Pop is the "boss" and Trill is the "rat" (*terms in quotes because of laziness*)
Off to bigger and better things... ta-ta! ♪♫
Winner4600 wrote:
We've also established based on common sense that that would only hold true if both of you were pranksters (uh, the employees, if I got the term wrong)... and assuming both of you actually voted for Pop, but I think that was taken as a given. While I'm certainly not saying that Pop isn't suspicious, I don't think we can definitively pinpoint her quite yet. As usual, I may be wrong on this, but your assertiveness and quick accusation of Pop seems rather suspicious to me. Once again, Winner4600 gets my vote.
*finds vanilla ice cream in freezer and adds food colouring*
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We've already established that both teddy and I should have been on the firing list for getting into a majority, but we weren't.
We've also established based on common sense that that would only hold true if both of you were pranksters (uh, the employees, if I got the term wrong)... and assuming both of you actually voted for Pop, but I think that was taken as a given. While I'm certainly not saying that Pop isn't suspicious, I don't think we can definitively pinpoint her quite yet. As usual, I may be wrong on this, but your assertiveness and quick accusation of Pop seems rather suspicious to me. Once again, Winner4600 gets my vote.
*finds vanilla ice cream in freezer and adds food colouring*
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4demo, I know that's what we established, but then Trill quotes my post and says that it "isn't true" BECAUSE the boss or mod could have waited to submit the memo. That doesn't logically follow, and I know that Trill's reasoning skills are better than that. Of course, seeing how your logic is erratic as well, I'm not surprised you're jumping on me...
I was about to say, "Oh well, it's not me that's going to be fired - it's you," but I just realized that the other person who "said" he was going to vote for me was Trill, and so his vote doesn't count. You still have a chance, 4demo!
Edit: Got it! My curiosity finally overcame my laziness... we are pranksters, the boss is a spoilsport (with political aspirations), and the rat is a toady.
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I was about to say, "Oh well, it's not me that's going to be fired - it's you," but I just realized that the other person who "said" he was going to vote for me was Trill, and so his vote doesn't count. You still have a chance, 4demo!
Edit: Got it! My curiosity finally overcame my laziness... we are pranksters, the boss is a spoilsport (with political aspirations), and the rat is a toady.
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Trill obviously got confused and thought that the delay in the memo was still being talked about; for which the point he made does stand.
Winner, you need more than a two person "majority" to prove anything in this game. We can't just assume that neither you nor teddy were the spoilsport / toady, especially with so few people in the game. I'm not yet sure whether to vote with you, vote for you or take the safe option and fish... I'll be back later in the round to decide.
Winner, you need more than a two person "majority" to prove anything in this game. We can't just assume that neither you nor teddy were the spoilsport / toady, especially with so few people in the game. I'm not yet sure whether to vote with you, vote for you or take the safe option and fish... I'll be back later in the round to decide.
The point he made does stand, but not in context, when he's saying how I'm suspicious for thinking Pop's the spoilsport when teddy and I should both have been fired.
If you vote with me, we can definitely clear or incriminate Pop. If you vote against me, you and 4demo stand a high chance of getting the boot. Of course, fishing is always an option...
Hey... only one person was fired. This early in the game, shouldn't at least two people have been fired? Or is it different when there are only 10 players?
Off to bigger and better things... ta-ta! ♪♫
If you vote with me, we can definitely clear or incriminate Pop. If you vote against me, you and 4demo stand a high chance of getting the boot. Of course, fishing is always an option...
Hey... only one person was fired. This early in the game, shouldn't at least two people have been fired? Or is it different when there are only 10 players?
Off to bigger and better things... ta-ta! ♪♫
Winner4600 wrote:
Winner4600 wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Yeah, that's correct. Sorry.
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TRILLIONAIRE wrote:
I think you're the... sidekick? rat? I don't remember the term and I'm too lazy to look it up. We've already established that both teddy and I should have been on the firing list for getting into a majority, but we weren't. Unless one of us was the political aspirer/whatever, Pop is definitely guilty. And here you are, saying that my post is "suspicious". Nope... in my opinion, Pop is the "boss" and Trill is the "rat" (*terms in quotes because of laziness*)
You'd be on the optional firing list, assuming you were a human and Hadleigh wasn't mandatory. The boss wouldn't have to fire anyone, which doesn't clear anyone. Plus, what 4demo said in her most recent post. I think it might be Winner... look at all her posts this round; they're a little suspicious.
Winner4600 wrote:
Winner4600 wrote:
Um... unless teddy is the Boss or Rat, Pop_Qla is definitely the Boss...
This isn't true. The boss could have just been waiting a while to submit the memo, or the moderator may have waited.I think you're the... sidekick? rat? I don't remember the term and I'm too lazy to look it up. We've already established that both teddy and I should have been on the firing list for getting into a majority, but we weren't. Unless one of us was the political aspirer/whatever, Pop is definitely guilty. And here you are, saying that my post is "suspicious". Nope... in my opinion, Pop is the "boss" and Trill is the "rat" (*terms in quotes because of laziness*)
Winner4600 wrote:
Hey... only one person was fired. This early in the game, shouldn't at least two people have been fired? Or is it different when there are only 10 players?
The boss may choose anyone/two/three people from the optional firing list. (Not sure about three, though...)Smithy wrote:
Trill obviously got confused and thought that the delay in the memo was still being talked about; for which the point he made does stand.
Yeah, that's correct. Sorry.
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Trill, assuming teddy and I both voted for Pop and Hadleigh wasn't a mandatory, teddy and I would have been the only two people on the optional firing list (also assuming nobody else voted for chidam). So there are only a handful of scenarios:
1. Teddy and/or I is/are the spoilsport/toady, and everyone else was on the firing list.
2. Someone voted for chidam without posting, the four of us (teddy, Hadleigh, the unknown, and I) were on the firing list, and Hadleigh got unlucky.
3. Pop is the spoilsport.
(Note that teddy and I both reinforced this round that we voted for Pop last round, and obviously neither of us forgot to lock in our votes. Therefore, unless one of us couldn't vote because of boss/rat reasons, we both did vote for Pop.)
Off to bigger and better things... ta-ta! ♪♫
1. Teddy and/or I is/are the spoilsport/toady, and everyone else was on the firing list.
2. Someone voted for chidam without posting, the four of us (teddy, Hadleigh, the unknown, and I) were on the firing list, and Hadleigh got unlucky.
3. Pop is the spoilsport.
(Note that teddy and I both reinforced this round that we voted for Pop last round, and obviously neither of us forgot to lock in our votes. Therefore, unless one of us couldn't vote because of boss/rat reasons, we both did vote for Pop.)
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Winner, I think from your original strategy of last game, you know very well that Pop can't be the spoilsport.
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Um... what original strategy? You know, Trill, you haven't said a single thing that makes sense yet, which is a glaring sign that you're either extremely ignorant, or you're the toady. I think we all know that you AREN'T ignorant, which leaves only one option.
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Winner4600 wrote:
Yes! I get to be Toad!
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Um... what original strategy?
The one that you PM'd me about before this game started... Yes! I get to be Toad!
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Just a friendly reminder that while you can recap your posted voting intentions for previous rounds, you cannot actually say who you voted for. Some of you are skirting the rule pretty tight. Be careful.
Never send a linguist to do a physicist's work.
Never send a linguist to do a physicist's work.
Not sure how to vote with all of the conversation. i started the round fishing for snowmonster but may move to pop or winner or teddy. Gotta think on it a bit. I'll sort it tonight(BT) and if I'm gonna change, I'll come back.
Oops, sorry Phrebh! I totally forgot about that ~ I've been playing mostly TWG games and didn't even think about it.
Okay, I need to organise everything, and somebody has to do this eventually, so... voting list (with extraneous notes)!
Alleged Votes for Round 2:
4demo - Pop_Qla
chidam11 - Pop_Qla
Pop_Qla - [completely unknown]
Smithy - teddybair
snowmonster - tommy
teddybair - Pop_Qla
tommysmo - Snowmonster
TRILLIONAIRE - Winner4600
Winner4600 - Pop_Qla
Majorities are indicated in italics. Let me know if I made any mistakes (my average is about two wrong names, so chances are, something's wrong here too).
Edit to add votes... since we like to get suspicious every time we see edits.
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Alleged Votes for Round 2:
4demo - Pop_Qla
chidam11 - Pop_Qla
Pop_Qla - [completely unknown]
Smithy - teddybair
snowmonster - tommy
teddybair - Pop_Qla
tommysmo - Snowmonster
TRILLIONAIRE - Winner4600
Winner4600 - Pop_Qla
Majorities are indicated in italics. Let me know if I made any mistakes (my average is about two wrong names, so chances are, something's wrong here too).
Edit to add votes... since we like to get suspicious every time we see edits.
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looks ok to me. nothing clear is there?
I don't really feel confident enough yet, fish vote for teddybair.
I am going with my Pop_Qla along with Teddy.
I'm pretty confident that Hadleigh wasn't the toady, since she was active and therefore unlikely to forget to hack into the network, and assuming Pop is the spoilsport, there weren't enough votes for Pop for Hadleigh to be on the firing list. So, if the spoilsport and toady are both in the game, there are seven possible votes, and a majority would be four. Assuming Winner, chidam, and teddy are all pranksters, only one more vote would be needed to either reveal or definitively clear Pop; hence, I am changing my vote to Pop.
As I said, that assumes that the three votes for Pop already are all by pranksters. If one or two are not pranksters, Pop will NOT be cleared. I know there will be a major Lemming risk here, but if anybody else happens to be online in the next 1.5 hours before the round ends and would like to also switch to Pop, that would be really helpful. Ideally, we would need two more votes to be absolutely certain that Pop is cleared, but one more is of course much better than none.
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As I said, that assumes that the three votes for Pop already are all by pranksters. If one or two are not pranksters, Pop will NOT be cleared. I know there will be a major Lemming risk here, but if anybody else happens to be online in the next 1.5 hours before the round ends and would like to also switch to Pop, that would be really helpful. Ideally, we would need two more votes to be absolutely certain that Pop is cleared, but one more is of course much better than none.
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