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Who's the Boss Game #2976

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This game is moderated by HABS2933. Please read the rules and contact the moderator with any questions or concerns about this game.

Voting / Memo Discussion
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Discussion of Round #0

Round: 0  1  2  3  

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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 06:11AM Jun 19, 2013

There were no games I felt like joining so thought I'd start one. No clue on a theme yet, but there will be one. Maybe revise the Snitch game. Not sure yet. I'll come up with something..

Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 10:13AM Jun 19, 2013

Hi

I'm back
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 10:58AM Jun 19, 2013

I do not want to be the boss. And if I am ....MOD please tell me who the rat is so I can oust them.

And please no one tell how "horriable" of a player I am.
That is rude and uncalled for and I do not appreciate it. Thank you
Sorry, had to vent!


Like what you love, and love what you got.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 11:48AM Jun 19, 2013

There is to be NO insulting of other players, the choices they make or how they play. We all have our own style and whether you agree with it or not, deal with it~

Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 12:26PM Jun 19, 2013

**************THE GAME************

LH's post game me an idea for the game.

Welcome to Office Politics

Like in any office or business environment, there are politics involved, Alliances are formed and enemies made.

The Brown-Noser (BN) is jealous of the relationship between the boss and the rat, and wants to the boss's right hand man. The BN is going to set out to sabotage this relationship and do whatever they can to get the rat fired. IF the BN succeeds in this quest, she or he will take over the role as rat and turn their attention to getting the rest of the employees fired.
The boss will be made aware of the BN's identity and may NOT fire him or her. The BN will know who both the boss and rat are. The rat will only know the identity of the Boss.
The BNs ultimate goal is to help the boss win the game (but only after the rat has been fired). If the BN is the last employee standing he has done his job.


Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 01:20PM Jun 19, 2013

I understand about the rat thing. I once had a rat that went along with the vote for me because I stated a vote for them earlier in the game.

I'm back
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EliosAus


Posted: 03:42PM Jun 19, 2013

I'll play!

Speaking as someone who was recently a failed Rat, it's a stupid role. Hacking the network is completely pointless - it is in no way helpful. And Rats can't even place a REAL vote to try to spare the Boss. I was told that a "good" Rat states a vote for the Boss when s/he has a good number of votes so that the Boss can then fire the Rat and look cleared.... Risky business, if you ask me. As a Rat, I don't think I've ever claimed a vote for the actual Boss, unless it was a very early MoO type thing. Employees/Humans have a tendency to join any majority that someone else starts, so why ever risk it?

Question:
"The BN is going to set out to sabotage this relationship and do whatever they can to get the rat fired." - How will the BN get the Rat fired? Wouldn't that mean the Boss has to get a majority of votes?

I've always thought WTB would benefit form there being two Rats; I think it makes the ending more fair for the Boss.


---This message was edited on 2013-06-19 15:45:41---

"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 04:27PM Jun 19, 2013

2. The Rat (If the rat forgets to hack the network, or if the Boss has received 25% or more of the votes)


That I guess is part of the challenge of being the BN - you have to get enough votes on the boss to have the rat on the list, but not enough to get him fired.

WTB is definitely skewed in the employees favour. The boss has only won 28% of the games. At least in WWG, even if it is slanted slightly in the favour of the wolves, it is only by a small margin. (44% for the humans vs 56% for the wolves).


---This message was edited on 2013-06-20 05:22:54---

Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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Skybet*gb


Posted: 04:52PM Jun 19, 2013

Hey all!

I will try my best not to be rude


We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 06:19PM Jun 19, 2013

I wonder if letting the boss know who the rat is and have a talkbox for the two would help.

I'm back
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Bruvvy*


Posted: 08:46PM Jun 19, 2013

I like the idea of the BN.
I feel bad for whoever gets that part though, sounds hard to try and get the rat fired.


Blue lips, blue veins. Blue, the color of our planet from far, far away.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 09:09PM Jun 19, 2013

21kaldridge21 wrote:
I wonder if letting the boss know who the rat is and have a talkbox for the two would help.


the only problem with that idea is the boss won't be told who the rat is. He will however know who the Brown Noser is.


Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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xxsoftballxx13xtus


Posted: 09:46PM Jun 19, 2013

Thanks for adding me, HABS! This sounds interesting.

I will try and remember to post in a different colour for this game...


---This message was edited on 2013-06-19 21:47:32---

"Chances lost are Hope's torn out pages." ~ Five For Fighting
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FaithDushkuAus


Posted: 10:41PM Jun 19, 2013

I'm in.. Sounds fun!

Five-by-Five...
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 05:24AM Jun 20, 2013

xxsoftballxx13x wrote:
Thanks for adding me, HABS! This sounds interesting.

I will try and remember to post in a different colour for this game...


I only ask that you don't post in blue, since I do. That way if you are rushed and only skim the round (not a wise idea btw) you can find my posts easily so you won't miss anything.


Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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buu441Ain


Posted: 07:33AM Jun 20, 2013

this game sounds interesting can't wait for it to get underway.

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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SirHarA


Posted: 09:09AM Jun 20, 2013

OK HABS....let's Iron out a few issues with this design...
1.Ellios review my game(s) that had do do with "who's the rat"
2. habs this opens up a lot of issues...
3. It sounds like the BN automatically gets a loss on their record....
4 Will the BN know from the start who the rat and boss are????If so why not just come clean...If you are strong enough (as I am )...Why not just take out the boss in round 1???? and get the win?????

I have other issues but let's address these 1st!!!

And Sky Rude is in the eye of the beholder...



the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
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21kaldridge21Aus


Posted: 10:15AM Jun 20, 2013

HABS2933 wrote:
21kaldridge21 wrote:
I wonder if letting the boss know who the rat is and have a talkbox for the two would help.


the only problem with that idea is the boss won't be told who the rat is. He will however know who the Brown Noser is.



I said that just in general for wtb


I'm back
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YuffieAus


Posted: 10:30AM Jun 20, 2013

I couldn't resist joining the game - I'm scared to death that I'll get the BN position but at the same time, it would be cool to take on a special role

SirHar wrote:

It sounds like the BN automatically gets a loss on their record.... Will the BN know from the start who the rat and boss are????If so why not just come clean...If you are strong enough (as I am )...Why not just take out the boss in round 1???? and get the win?????


Most of your posts are just harmless trolling & I'm not sure why you numbered your thoughts since #1 was irrelevant and #2 wasn't even a stand-alone thought But I'll humor you with a response. The point is to have fun & work as a team - it sucks that you're a "bad guy" with the "good guy" title, but it's an extra challenge that you can then brag about later should you win. And, if the BN divulges who the Boss is in Round 1, the rest of the players will be pissed for not being able to play the game.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 04:11PM Jun 20, 2013

SirHar wrote:
3. It sounds like the BN automatically gets a loss on their record....

I didn't know we had individual records

4 Will the BN know from the start who the rat and boss are????

READ the game description - that has been addressed

If so why not just come clean...If you are strong enough (as I am )...Why not just take out the boss in round 1???? and get the win?????

That defeats the the whole point of the BN becoming the rat and aiding the boss in the win.

I have other issues but let's address these 1st!!!

you have issues alright; but I'm not sure they are with the game

And Har, if you don't like the format you are free to not join. But if you are going to play, can we count on you're actually playing? If I wasn't allowed to use a death in the family as an excuse to miss one round, then you can't use death of your internet either.


---This message was edited on 2013-06-20 16:12:59---

Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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EliosAus


Posted: 04:33PM Jun 20, 2013

SirHar wrote:
1. Elios review my game(s) that had do do with "who's the rat"
Do you have links, or game numbers or something? How am I supposed to find those? Or you could just tell me what they were about. I'm guessing trying to find the Rat...? What's the relevance to this game (and me specifically)?

Wait, you've modded WTB before??


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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sader2011*us


Posted: 06:42PM Jun 20, 2013

Wow...Y'all need to get some familial issues worked out and kiss and make up before this game begins, or this game is going to be uber confusing just because you can't get along...

"Education, without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil." C. S. Lewis
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:01PM Jun 20, 2013

sader, we are getting along. Have you not played with Har before? He is actually behaving himself quite well right now. I am (pleasantly) surprised at the single post. - YOU feeling okay Jeff?

---This message was edited on 2013-06-21 07:02:24---

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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 08:19PM Jun 20, 2013

LOLOLOL! Usually its three posts.

Fearless.
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 10:31PM Jun 20, 2013

Hey Slamm, yes usually it is a MINIMUM of 3 posts.

---This message was edited on 2013-06-21 07:03:02---

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changhill*us


Posted: 10:46PM Jun 20, 2013

Hope I didn't steal anyone's place

It's been a while since i've played, but looking forward


---This message was edited on 2013-06-21 01:38:17---

*rawr*
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SirHarA


Posted: 01:06AM Jun 21, 2013

all I care about is the Scoreboard and winning....Habs, spider or smithy have the data.........I know this is a foreign concept to most of you young social Utopiasts....

the stronger the fed govt gets the less you free you will be,,,,This is a no brainer...
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slammngirl92*us


Posted: 03:23AM Jun 21, 2013

Yes har, because habs, who just said "who keeps track anyways?" Definetaly has the records

Fearless.
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xxsoftballxx13xtus


Posted: 05:43AM Jun 21, 2013

Chang, I thought you were vlerma when I saw the font.

"Chances lost are Hope's torn out pages." ~ Five For Fighting
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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:05AM Jun 21, 2013

SirHar wrote:
all I care about is the Scoreboard and winning....Habs, spider or smithy have the data.........I know this is a foreign concept to most of you young social Utopiasts....


I didn't know anyone was keeping track of the games.

I care about winning to Har - anyone who has played with me knows that. To me in any aspect of life winning is the most important thing. NO ONE remembers (or even cares) who came in 2nd.


I believe in winning so much, even when the kids were little I never once let them beat me. I kicked their butts for a long time then one day each and everyone of them got good enough to beat me (at some things, I still win at others). Not everyone should make the team, or get to play, and most definitely don't believe in the "everyone gets a trophy" BS - you want a trophy? Then EARN it!


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HABS2933Aca


Posted: 07:24AM Jun 21, 2013

IMPORTANT NOTICE

As has been discussed (both in this thread and privately with reversal of you) this format will not work and is set to fail before it starts.

My purpose was to try to give the boss (who as discussed only wins 28% of the time) a better shot and winning and make it more difficult for the employees. To accomplish this, the BN will now serve as a 2nd rat - he or she know who the Boss is and who the official rat is. The Boss knows the identity of his or her BN but not of the first rat. The Rat knows only who the boss is.

The game will play as per normal WTB rules other than that.

Jeff, if you want a check in the win column, you'll have to earn it!


Be sure to follow you dreams; otherwise you'll end up working for someone who had the guts to follow his.
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EliosAus


Posted: 08:13AM Jun 21, 2013

HABS2933 wrote:
the BN will now serve as a 2nd rat - he or she know who the Boss is and who the official rat is. The Boss knows the identity of his or her BN but not of the first rat. The Rat knows only who the boss is.
I like that idea, too! Can't wait to see how this plays out.


"An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered. An inconvenience is an adventure wrongly considered." - Chesterton
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YuffieAus


Posted: 08:31AM Jun 21, 2013

SirHar wrote:
all I care about is the Scoreboard and winning....Habs, spider or smithy have the data.........


Honest question here - if you're so obsessed over the scoreboard, why don't you have the data?


I love the concept of a 2nd rat though! Cutting out the "assassination"-attempt on the 1st rat does seem the better way to go; I'm so glad we started & that everyone seems to be fairly active!
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changhill*us


Posted: 08:39AM Jun 21, 2013

xxsoftballxx13x wrote:
Chang, I thought you were vlerma when I saw the font.


Sorry to disappoint...


*rawr*
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Longhorn_fanAus


Posted: 09:37AM Jun 21, 2013

Sounds very cool HABS

Like what you love, and love what you got.
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buu441Ain


Posted: 11:47AM Jun 21, 2013

yup. two rats sounds cool enough. you'll be selecting them by random, right?

Leo: Hold on. This is gonna hurt. Coach Hedge: I was BORN for HURT!!
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xxsoftballxx13xtus


Posted: 01:59PM Jun 21, 2013

Not disappointed!

"Chances lost are Hope's torn out pages." ~ Five For Fighting
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