The Werewolf Game
Game #3366: Valentines Day Massacre
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This game finished in 6 rounds.
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Welcome to Round 3!
4wheels was murdered simply because she's a quiet player. Apparently you weren't hunting Wolves because you did not get one. . .. and bRIN. . . . . the Wolves found her sleeping and took advantage. They were after all, hungry.
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Welcome to Round 3!
4wheels was murdered simply because she's a quiet player. Apparently you weren't hunting Wolves because you did not get one. . .. and bRIN. . . . . the Wolves found her sleeping and took advantage. They were after all, hungry.
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I'm voting sky, but I'm also thinking Spider
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Celt wrote
Yes, how dare I refer to this Oceans vote as a "majority"
I don't really know why Hooves is suddenly up in arms about the meaning of majority, it's been clear since time immemorial in wwg that we refer to anyone leading in votes as in a "majority". And yes, the Ocean majority/tie, while it existed, I feel was just lazily putting the 'new guy' into a majority. This is directed at Celt.
Rove's suspicious strike me as disingenuous, (Sky and Spider....really ) I think one of Rove/Hooves is a wolf, but I'm not super confident in that, it just kind of feels that way to me for now.
Will SPV until we get an ID.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Going to create a competing majority.
Yes, how dare I refer to this Oceans vote as a "majority"
I don't really know why Hooves is suddenly up in arms about the meaning of majority, it's been clear since time immemorial in wwg that we refer to anyone leading in votes as in a "majority". And yes, the Ocean majority/tie, while it existed, I feel was just lazily putting the 'new guy' into a majority. This is directed at Celt.
Rove's suspicious strike me as disingenuous, (Sky and Spider....really ) I think one of Rove/Hooves is a wolf, but I'm not super confident in that, it just kind of feels that way to me for now.
Will SPV until we get an ID.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
The_Spider wrote:
The two that I would think would take "seers act wolfy" and "I think the wolves are brin and jess-ey" and put 2 and 2 together
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Rove's suspicious strike me as disingenuous, (Sky and Spider....really )
The two that I would think would take "seers act wolfy" and "I think the wolves are brin and jess-ey" and put 2 and 2 together
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oh...your suspicions revolve around you flattering yourself....again...my fault
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Just helping my suspicions
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Oddly snarky update from the mod, and further self aggrandizing behavior from Rove. If his suspicion is genuine, it's the most self involved thing ever posted (which is par for the course so may be a human indicator after all).
Will take a few hours break as I'm feeling a little too combative this AM
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Will take a few hours break as I'm feeling a little too combative this AM
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Dismissing me isn't a good defense
Apologize
(I mean, Sky dismissed me last game)
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Apologize
(I mean, Sky dismissed me last game)
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Sorry back in the room. Have been poorly last few days so need to catch up. Need to see what's happened the last couple of rounds
Brin eating is relevant because it's now 2 for ladies being eaten, bit she was also at the top of the list.
Oceans posts have given some him breathing room, but I still think it's totally fair to want to shoot someone who in 1.75 rounds posted like 7 characters total.
Think there's definitely at least one lady wolf in our midst though, and because of that, SPV for deb.
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"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Oceans posts have given some him breathing room, but I still think it's totally fair to want to shoot someone who in 1.75 rounds posted like 7 characters total.
Think there's definitely at least one lady wolf in our midst though, and because of that, SPV for deb.
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"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I wasn't defending anything, I was merely pointing out yet another instance of your complete self infatuation (even in that post you managed to pat your self on the back yet again)....but do your best buddy.
I could go with a Deb vote, want an opening post from as many people as possible before getting after it though.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I could go with a Deb vote, want an opening post from as many people as possible before getting after it though.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I'm going froggy
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Funny you say that Celt, for me ocean's final post screamed wolf.
I presume we still have the seer from that update...?
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I presume we still have the seer from that update...?
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
For me who/oceans are pretty high on the suspect list. Along with a couple of other but I want to keep those cards close to my chest for now.
Spid calling Celt's vote for ocean lazy and then proceeding to shoot 4wheels is a touch hypocritical but I suspect there was an element of attrition from last game.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
Spid calling Celt's vote for ocean lazy and then proceeding to shoot 4wheels is a touch hypocritical but I suspect there was an element of attrition from last game.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I'm not surprised at the eating, as there seems to be a trend of lady wolves eating the guys and vice versa. Not good seer hunting though, and by now the seer has some info, if not to share, then to hunt at.
I don't think I've seen snowy use big font like that before. I imagine she's fed up with the big egos.
SPV for now. Will reread and think.
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whoviandeb wrote:
Actually, they just forgot to add a slash < /big >
Also,
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I don't think I've seen snowy use big font like that before. I imagine she's fed up with the big egos.
Actually, they just forgot to add a slash < /big >
Also,
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"Spid calling Celt's vote for ocean lazy and then proceeding to shoot 4wheels is a touch hypocritical but I suspect there was an element of attrition from last game."
Not really, wheels has consistently established herself as unwilling to help the game in any way, regardless of how often she is pleaded with to do so...Even the little guilt I had about her totally faded when I see she didn't even bother to switch her SPV. I avoided voting her earlier in the round (as I noted) and switched to her for the distinct reason of helping fun (there were only so many options to put a 3rd vote on). This is the first game I've played with Oceans, so him randomly showing up in a majority was for no other reason than he was new (under the pretext that he would night vote Jess), I think that's a lazy approach. You's can have the last word on it, maybe lazy isn't the right word, but the lack of honesty about it (yeah, Ill vote the new, seemingly inactive guy would have been better) is what bothered me.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Not really, wheels has consistently established herself as unwilling to help the game in any way, regardless of how often she is pleaded with to do so...Even the little guilt I had about her totally faded when I see she didn't even bother to switch her SPV. I avoided voting her earlier in the round (as I noted) and switched to her for the distinct reason of helping fun (there were only so many options to put a 3rd vote on). This is the first game I've played with Oceans, so him randomly showing up in a majority was for no other reason than he was new (under the pretext that he would night vote Jess), I think that's a lazy approach. You's can have the last word on it, maybe lazy isn't the right word, but the lack of honesty about it (yeah, Ill vote the new, seemingly inactive guy would have been better) is what bothered me.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Just to clarify, I did not enlarge my font that big because I was trying to "shout" at anyone. LOL I'm still having issues with enlarging, bolding and even changing the color of my posts. It took forever to get it to that point. Tried to downsize the words, but to no avail . . . .
And may I just state - some players play low keyed, and for a multiple of reasons. I understand the frustration of playing these games with peeps that don't contribute a lot, or play according to how another may feel they need to . . . . but if they are voting, and posting their vote, that is NOT an inactive player, and it is NOT a rude player, and it is NOT a player that should be dismissed as an unimportant player. If we were to use the logic that a quiet player or low keyed player should be voted out early every game, then so should those that post a lot of nothing. . . . . just saying. And I'd rather be considered Snarky than um something else. . . . ya know what I mean. . . . .
Carry on, and this subject is closed as far as I'm concerned. Good luck everyone!!
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
And may I just state - some players play low keyed, and for a multiple of reasons. I understand the frustration of playing these games with peeps that don't contribute a lot, or play according to how another may feel they need to . . . . but if they are voting, and posting their vote, that is NOT an inactive player, and it is NOT a rude player, and it is NOT a player that should be dismissed as an unimportant player. If we were to use the logic that a quiet player or low keyed player should be voted out early every game, then so should those that post a lot of nothing. . . . . just saying. And I'd rather be considered Snarky than um something else. . . . ya know what I mean. . . . .
Carry on, and this subject is closed as far as I'm concerned. Good luck everyone!!
Take all sorrow out of life and you take away all richness, and depth, and tenderness. The capacity of sorrow belongs to our grandeur. It is the furnace that melts hearts together in love.
Skybet wrote:
He's still on my list for sure but at least he's finally shown some signs of life.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Funny you say that Celt, for me ocean's final post screamed wolf.
I presume we still have the seer from that update...?
I presume we still have the seer from that update...?
He's still on my list for sure but at least he's finally shown some signs of life.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
The_Spider voted for StewieGriffin
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
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Colange voted for froggygg
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
The_Spider voted for StewieGriffin
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
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I felt like ocean's rant about not being online the same time as us is probably fair, though he hasn't said where he is located and doesn't list it in his profile.
So Col stated his vote as an SPV - why froggy, Rove?
It's a disease, not a punch line
SPV for now.
Yes, Spider, the unfinished post last round was a typo because the comma is next to the period on a keyboard.
Yes, Spider, the unfinished post last round was a typo because the comma is next to the period on a keyboard.
Well, I see I am the only majority and I have no reason why. I know those who know me and how I play, know that I am not real vocal in the first few rounds of the game. I only post my votes and when I have information I feel is relevant.
SPV for Celtic.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
SPV for Celtic.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Let me explain what I think is the most important thing this round, because it may not be obvious to everyone reading. I am trying to gauge my self toward Rove, and the biggest thing is his suspicions of me/sky.
At first I thought this was just a "go on the offensive" preemptive attack against us, I can elaborate if needed but this post will probably be long enough as is, he explained it indirectly via:
Rove wrote
The implication here is that Sky and I, held Rove's completely random "suspects list" (Jess,Brin) from Round 1 as so insightful that if he was wrong about them being wolves, he wasn't wrong about them being "wolfy", and as Rove observes, Seers often sound like Wolves, we better eat those players. Needless to say, if this is a genuine feel, this is so egotistical as to defy words. I haven't felt this way about a Rove post since his infamous "x would eat y" list from a handful of games ago ("lynch all liars")...I mean it stretches my credulity. So I have to decide if Rove has it within him to have these egotistical impulses on the level of JakeTAD, or if this is simply an offhand accusation that he hopes wouldn't be challenged too deeply so he brushed it aside. It feels like the latter.
I think the thing that correlates most strongly with being a wolf is a very talkative player that suddenly goes quiet...All that being said, Rove has antagonized a few people so far (Fun, Frog, Spid) so it points to him being human. I also hold active contributors in the highest regard, so I will not shoot him lightly, at least at this juncture.
I'd like to hear thoughts on this theory of Roves, because it IS the theory he was going by.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
At first I thought this was just a "go on the offensive" preemptive attack against us, I can elaborate if needed but this post will probably be long enough as is, he explained it indirectly via:
Rove wrote
The two that I would think would take "seers act wolfy" and "I think the wolves are brin and jess-ey" and put 2 and 2 together
The implication here is that Sky and I, held Rove's completely random "suspects list" (Jess,Brin) from Round 1 as so insightful that if he was wrong about them being wolves, he wasn't wrong about them being "wolfy", and as Rove observes, Seers often sound like Wolves, we better eat those players. Needless to say, if this is a genuine feel, this is so egotistical as to defy words. I haven't felt this way about a Rove post since his infamous "x would eat y" list from a handful of games ago ("lynch all liars")...I mean it stretches my credulity. So I have to decide if Rove has it within him to have these egotistical impulses on the level of JakeTAD, or if this is simply an offhand accusation that he hopes wouldn't be challenged too deeply so he brushed it aside. It feels like the latter.
I think the thing that correlates most strongly with being a wolf is a very talkative player that suddenly goes quiet...All that being said, Rove has antagonized a few people so far (Fun, Frog, Spid) so it points to him being human. I also hold active contributors in the highest regard, so I will not shoot him lightly, at least at this juncture.
I'd like to hear thoughts on this theory of Roves, because it IS the theory he was going by.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Spv for the moment. I'm a little busy right now. I'll be back a bit later to properly read through everything.
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." Carl Sagan
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for StewieGriffin
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Colange voted for froggygg
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for StewieGriffin
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Curious as to what tell Sky noticed in round 1 and if it carried over.
Rove is very chaotic neutral with a healthy dose of ego on the side, so I'm not totally convinced in his being a wolf.
Froggy's post says a lot of nothing, but by her own admission that's on brand for her.
Willing to cut Oceans some slack but I'm expecting more than an SPV and rant about time zones this round.
Vote is going to stay on Deb for now.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Rove is very chaotic neutral with a healthy dose of ego on the side, so I'm not totally convinced in his being a wolf.
Froggy's post says a lot of nothing, but by her own admission that's on brand for her.
Willing to cut Oceans some slack but I'm expecting more than an SPV and rant about time zones this round.
Vote is going to stay on Deb for now.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
You picked up on something I couldn't decipher. The seer acts wolfy thing was confusing me, and I was so focused on that I missed the jess/brin part.
It's getting to that point of the afternoon where my brain needs coffee or a nap. I plan on changing my vote, but am still debating. I think Fun is a good option, but only if Rove is human. I dont see them as a pair (yet?).
Need to hear from deb and Col more.
It's a disease, not a punch line
It's getting to that point of the afternoon where my brain needs coffee or a nap. I plan on changing my vote, but am still debating. I think Fun is a good option, but only if Rove is human. I dont see them as a pair (yet?).
Need to hear from deb and Col more.
It's a disease, not a punch line
Celt sounds like he's hedging on Rove, so (until I review Celt v Rove last round...where I think he did call him out) I have to take note of Celt/Rove possibilities.
I think Colange's mostly apathy so far this game points toward him being human.
I would like to hear more from Sky, I know he's busy, but once my 'under the radar' is pinged, the paranoia sticks with me all game.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think Colange's mostly apathy so far this game points toward him being human.
I would like to hear more from Sky, I know he's busy, but once my 'under the radar' is pinged, the paranoia sticks with me all game.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I feel like I gotta at least probe into a Celt/Rove/Deb theory
Will do so with a Deb vote
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for debc1
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
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This activity level is really really dissapointing
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Will do so with a Deb vote
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for debc1
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
.....
This activity level is really really dissapointing
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I think that we can get some more insight from the Brin eating.
I mentioned some above, but I think there's 3 interesting points about this.
1. Brin is first alphabetically, can point to a lazy eating.
2. Back to back rounds of a lady being eaten, not insane given the game is as close to a 50/50 split as you can get, but with the shooting victims almost being female, significantly more interesting.
3. Brin voted for 4wheels last round. entioned something about an idea she was mulling around but was very vague about it. Could've drawn seer suspicion, but was no more open to that response than Sky's tell he uncovered.
I think that in response to Sky and Spider's eating analysis, the eating was less of a seer hunt, and more of an attempt to cast suspicion on the gents. With Deb, Whov, and Froggy the only three women left, I would anticipate at least one, if not two being a wolf, with my suspicion of them probably being in that order.
Combining Deb's current inactivity and some degree of a wolf vibe last round, t(hough I still contend the switch to Oceans was valid), currently tips my scales in her favor; Whov's somewhat degree of aloofness in response to Spider explaining his view of Rove's comments seems out of character, and Froggy is impossible to read until like round 4.
Still want to hear more from everyone, specifically Sky and Deb
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I mentioned some above, but I think there's 3 interesting points about this.
1. Brin is first alphabetically, can point to a lazy eating.
2. Back to back rounds of a lady being eaten, not insane given the game is as close to a 50/50 split as you can get, but with the shooting victims almost being female, significantly more interesting.
3. Brin voted for 4wheels last round. entioned something about an idea she was mulling around but was very vague about it. Could've drawn seer suspicion, but was no more open to that response than Sky's tell he uncovered.
I think that in response to Sky and Spider's eating analysis, the eating was less of a seer hunt, and more of an attempt to cast suspicion on the gents. With Deb, Whov, and Froggy the only three women left, I would anticipate at least one, if not two being a wolf, with my suspicion of them probably being in that order.
Combining Deb's current inactivity and some degree of a wolf vibe last round, t(hough I still contend the switch to Oceans was valid), currently tips my scales in her favor; Whov's somewhat degree of aloofness in response to Spider explaining his view of Rove's comments seems out of character, and Froggy is impossible to read until like round 4.
Still want to hear more from everyone, specifically Sky and Deb
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I still do not see any red flags yet, but I also think Rove is acting defensive, yet a bit "off". That said, Rove is always one to express many thoughts and ideas - somewhat in a offensive manner and borderline spammy.
With still 13+ hours left, I'm leaving my vote where it is. However, in case I need to save myself, I will be back to change my vote.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
With still 13+ hours left, I'm leaving my vote where it is. However, in case I need to save myself, I will be back to change my vote.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
Gee wiz I might as well have a target permanently painted on my back
What specifically do you find suspicious?
Why are the ladies only been eaten? I don't know but I wish it would stop. But I think y'all are over analyzing it it could be a coincidence, who knows until it's over and we can ask the wolves.
And if you want to talk about "lazy voting" why does it come to a certain point and some flake out and votes deb?
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What specifically do you find suspicious?
Why are the ladies only been eaten? I don't know but I wish it would stop. But I think y'all are over analyzing it it could be a coincidence, who knows until it's over and we can ask the wolves.
And if you want to talk about "lazy voting" why does it come to a certain point and some flake out and votes deb?
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I voted for Celt
Is changeable if persuaded
But he's being grumpy and demanding not his usual self and kinda all over the place
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Is changeable if persuaded
But he's being grumpy and demanding not his usual self and kinda all over the place
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VOTING FOR ROUND #3
Day
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for celtichero
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for debc1
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
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Day
It takes 6 votes to select someone to be shot with the silver bullet.
celtichero voted for debc1
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for celtichero
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for whoviandeb
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for debc1
whoviandeb voted for The_Spider
Nobody has been shot with the silver bullet yet.
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The overseas crew needs to step up now that their hemisphere is coming around
I'll buy Deb for now...not sure who to switch to....Rove has so many red flags flying but I'm not sure I'm ready for that vote
I'll vote someone, maybe aggressive, maybe passive , and check the lay of the land tmrw morning
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I'll buy Deb for now...not sure who to switch to....Rove has so many red flags flying but I'm not sure I'm ready for that vote
I'll vote someone, maybe aggressive, maybe passive , and check the lay of the land tmrw morning
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I just posted and it's not here...doing this on a phone
Anyway, switched to Fun because after nearly being shot last round he said almost nothing this round. Is his Rove suspicion a carryover?
It's a disease, not a punch line
Anyway, switched to Fun because after nearly being shot last round he said almost nothing this round. Is his Rove suspicion a carryover?
It's a disease, not a punch line
Will switch off Deb if anyone else seems a better shot, but she's branching into the woe is me territory Spider alluded to in a previous game. I think werewolf is a game where over-analyzing is almost required, so I'm not really buying that logic.
Oceans isn't at the top of my list but he seriously needs to post something substantive this round.
Rove shot isn't a terrible option, but again, Rove being a chaotic nuisance isn't too out of the ordinary for him.
Fun is a possibility but hard to get a read on him so far.
Sky is seeming human but I have been burned by him before on both ends so I'm keeping wary of him.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Oceans isn't at the top of my list but he seriously needs to post something substantive this round.
Rove shot isn't a terrible option, but again, Rove being a chaotic nuisance isn't too out of the ordinary for him.
Fun is a possibility but hard to get a read on him so far.
Sky is seeming human but I have been burned by him before on both ends so I'm keeping wary of him.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I am grasping
Like I said I am persuadable
Sky and col are pretty quite but maybe they are not awake, same as ocean
I think rove is normal, lol even when he doesn't post a lot he is still a high subject of attention
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Like I said I am persuadable
Sky and col are pretty quite but maybe they are not awake, same as ocean
I think rove is normal, lol even when he doesn't post a lot he is still a high subject of attention
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Keeping my vote where it is until the AM. Will switch to Frog if my hand is forced.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Interesting game. A lot of people seem to be playing the passive route so really for now I am sticking with my frog vote unless something alarming sticks out at me
I've been out all morning and spent the last couple hours catching up with family.
Honestly i am still figuring this thing out. ur all having so many ideas and hints about things I just can't comprehend yet. It goes over my head trying to weave it in while I got only get the basics.
Anyway one thing you keep bringing up is all the females are being eaten/shot leading you to think the wolves are males. I'm not sure why this is a thing, suspicion is not a gender thing, why would a female keep another female in if that female is a threat? It is odd that it seems to be this way, but if so, and maybe if thete's no threat yet when it comes to the last female and she isn't gone you will wonder why. But remember the wolves don't have a talkbox so they can't plan anything like this, regardless of gender. Gender war is not the goal of the game man.
That bit Rove was saying that seers act like wolves, well by now the seer knows who two people are. The wolves always know everyone human. So i can really see where that comes from The wolves have to protect two other wolves. The seer is now either protecting at most two humans and/or trying to tell us a wolf undercoverly.
I am still not really comfortable making big decisions in this game yet, I don't want to accidentally shoot humans because Im not wolf and mess it up by getting suspected i feel like a very easy target that just gives wolves advantage. Going to add in an spv at the moment and let's see about it.
Honestly i am still figuring this thing out. ur all having so many ideas and hints about things I just can't comprehend yet. It goes over my head trying to weave it in while I got only get the basics.
Anyway one thing you keep bringing up is all the females are being eaten/shot leading you to think the wolves are males. I'm not sure why this is a thing, suspicion is not a gender thing, why would a female keep another female in if that female is a threat? It is odd that it seems to be this way, but if so, and maybe if thete's no threat yet when it comes to the last female and she isn't gone you will wonder why. But remember the wolves don't have a talkbox so they can't plan anything like this, regardless of gender. Gender war is not the goal of the game man.
That bit Rove was saying that seers act like wolves, well by now the seer knows who two people are. The wolves always know everyone human. So i can really see where that comes from The wolves have to protect two other wolves. The seer is now either protecting at most two humans and/or trying to tell us a wolf undercoverly.
I am still not really comfortable making big decisions in this game yet, I don't want to accidentally shoot humans because Im not wolf and mess it up by getting suspected i feel like a very easy target that just gives wolves advantage. Going to add in an spv at the moment and let's see about it.
Was going to change my vote but that will only take off the only other majority than me. So, keeping my vote where it is. If I'm shot, you are only helping out the wolves...
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
whoviandeb wrote:
I am very sorry.
I just finished school and reading the posts, so I couldn't have said much. I'll still have to study, so this is probably the last post I can have for the round. But then I believe that Rove is a wolf, he's been less active than he previously was.
There are currently only two majorities, celt and froggyg. I suspect froggyg more actually. Still keeping my vote as is.
I don't really have time to check everyone and look for wolfy things, but then I might have that time on the weekends.
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I just posted and it's not here...doing this on a phone
Anyway, switched to Fun because after nearly being shot last round he said almost nothing this round. Is his Rove suspicion a carryover?
Anyway, switched to Fun because after nearly being shot last round he said almost nothing this round. Is his Rove suspicion a carryover?
I am very sorry.
I just finished school and reading the posts, so I couldn't have said much. I'll still have to study, so this is probably the last post I can have for the round. But then I believe that Rove is a wolf, he's been less active than he previously was.
There are currently only two majorities, celt and froggyg. I suspect froggyg more actually. Still keeping my vote as is.
I don't really have time to check everyone and look for wolfy things, but then I might have that time on the weekends.
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I thought the schools got closed, fun. Is yours not?
Because of corona virus? Yeah, majority of the schools in my region have no classes. But mine still has.
I just checked my other games and when I came back oceans posted already. I was about to add something. It's:
Pls don't suspect me that much. Here's a record of my previous games:
3357: Was wolf, was suspected, was shot
3359: Was human, was suspected, was shot
3365: Was human, was suspected, was eaten
In the last game, I was eaten because someone leaked the wolves to me, so I had to report the problem. If that didn't happen, I would have been most likely shot.
Pls don't suspect me that much. Here's a record of my previous games:
3357: Was wolf, was suspected, was shot
3359: Was human, was suspected, was shot
3365: Was human, was suspected, was eaten
In the last game, I was eaten because someone leaked the wolves to me, so I had to report the problem. If that didn't happen, I would have been most likely shot.
I see, take care and stay safe.
There are a lot more humans than wolves and apparently wolves still win most the games. So humans in general keep on wrongly suspected, if not u then someone else.
I'll probably have more of an idea about the wolfs here when we get a first wolf, I'm feel just blind now.
There are a lot more humans than wolves and apparently wolves still win most the games. So humans in general keep on wrongly suspected, if not u then someone else.
I'll probably have more of an idea about the wolfs here when we get a first wolf, I'm feel just blind now.
Ok so my first thought is about the eating. We pointed out that it felt like a dude eating and then the wolves decided to double down on it and eat a further female. This has one of two likely outcomes, the wolves are predominantly male (2-3) and are double bluffing, or there are maybe 2 female wolves and are trying to steer us further in the male direction. I can make a good case for either, but the summary I arrive at is who - I feel that she would make a choice like that, I can't articulate exactly why. I just think she is very observant and tactical - more so than other players.
Oceans is still vibing to me in a big way, the long posts and talking about non game related things etc. Could be the inexperienced factor but it's quite stark to me and I think that's the shot I would prefer the most.
Rove is certainly troubling this game, and overlooking a particular post and its connotations, from a high level perspective, his demeanour is vastly different from usual. Maybe he's just getting weary from a long human run. I suspect he would be putting in more effort as a wolf. Backburner for me.
I agree RE col, seems human so far.
The "tell" I noticed in round 1 was from Spid, actually, I didn't want to mention it since last time I did, he changed dramatically and made me think he was human, so I didn't want to mention it right away but observe how it manifested. It was the usual diplomacy behaviour and persistent defendery he gets when he's a wolf. But it was slight (and still a little round 2) but he seems his normal self now so I have cooled on it. Still remaining vigilant on that.
I'm going to vote for oceans.
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Oceans is still vibing to me in a big way, the long posts and talking about non game related things etc. Could be the inexperienced factor but it's quite stark to me and I think that's the shot I would prefer the most.
Rove is certainly troubling this game, and overlooking a particular post and its connotations, from a high level perspective, his demeanour is vastly different from usual. Maybe he's just getting weary from a long human run. I suspect he would be putting in more effort as a wolf. Backburner for me.
I agree RE col, seems human so far.
The "tell" I noticed in round 1 was from Spid, actually, I didn't want to mention it since last time I did, he changed dramatically and made me think he was human, so I didn't want to mention it right away but observe how it manifested. It was the usual diplomacy behaviour and persistent defendery he gets when he's a wolf. But it was slight (and still a little round 2) but he seems his normal self now so I have cooled on it. Still remaining vigilant on that.
I'm going to vote for oceans.
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I think you guys are significantly underselling the point about Rove I brought up earlier (most allusions to it are in regards to 'eating the seer')
Briefly again, Rove's suspicion is that Sky and I held his round 1 Babe Ruth shot call (which never have any merit) as so potentially prescient that he must be on to something. Jess and Brin weren't wolves (as Sky and I would know)....but Rove had to be right about them in some capacity, so they must be wolfish/seery. Can a player really believe this about his round 1 "prediction"
Rove is 'chaotic' it's true, but his convictions seem to last as long as are needed tactically at this point. His reticence is also undeniable at this point. I think he is a wolf, but I'm not sure enough right now (and if I do vote him Ill wait till I get to the office).
For now, leaving on Stewie, he doesn't seem wolfy, but his absence is becoming a problem.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Briefly again, Rove's suspicion is that Sky and I held his round 1 Babe Ruth shot call (which never have any merit) as so potentially prescient that he must be on to something. Jess and Brin weren't wolves (as Sky and I would know)....but Rove had to be right about them in some capacity, so they must be wolfish/seery. Can a player really believe this about his round 1 "prediction"
Rove is 'chaotic' it's true, but his convictions seem to last as long as are needed tactically at this point. His reticence is also undeniable at this point. I think he is a wolf, but I'm not sure enough right now (and if I do vote him Ill wait till I get to the office).
For now, leaving on Stewie, he doesn't seem wolfy, but his absence is becoming a problem.
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
But that's just Rove, no? Reaching anywhere and everywhere he can with threadbare foundation. Yes it's pretty egotistical and one of the biggest reaches I have ever seen, but then I have come to expect that. There is a possibility though that he orchestrated those eatings just to bring up the tenuous point. I don't have a real objection to a Rove shot by any stretch, but I have more pressing concerns personally. I might be obsessing over it but I really want to know oceans' id. He's bothering me a lot. Any reason you're adverse to that?
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I'm temporarily switching to Froggy to take some heat off my back.
Sky's analysis on Whov is both accurate, and quite interesting I think. Whov is one of the more perceptive players, and I don't think she would've missed the connection that Spider mentioned earlier re rove.
Spider did get imo overly defensive on Oceans last round, but since by Oceans' own admission a very new player, and Spider does frequently try to keep new players in. The Wheels majority last round was certainly equally lazy but potentially more viable, so I'm not overly suspicious of him for that.
Rove is the wild card here. He isn't striking me as very human, but he also isn't striking me as very wolfish either. At least more than usual in either direction.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Sky's analysis on Whov is both accurate, and quite interesting I think. Whov is one of the more perceptive players, and I don't think she would've missed the connection that Spider mentioned earlier re rove.
Spider did get imo overly defensive on Oceans last round, but since by Oceans' own admission a very new player, and Spider does frequently try to keep new players in. The Wheels majority last round was certainly equally lazy but potentially more viable, so I'm not overly suspicious of him for that.
Rove is the wild card here. He isn't striking me as very human, but he also isn't striking me as very wolfish either. At least more than usual in either direction.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
celtichero voted for froggygg
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for celtichero
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for The_Spider
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for oceans
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for StewieGriffin
whoviandeb voted for Funfor1
Need to think, not sure what I want to do...Rove's extreme quietness is coming off to me more as petulance at this point. I don't really see froggy as particularly suspect so it's a bit of a confusing front-runner, but I'm just not sure what to do about it.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Colange voted for froggygg
debc1 voted for celtichero
froggygg voted for celtichero
Funfor1 voted for Rove_Tarts
oceans voted for The_Spider
Rove_Tarts voted for froggygg
Skybet voted for oceans
StewieGriffin voted for Skybet
The_Spider voted for StewieGriffin
whoviandeb voted for Funfor1
Need to think, not sure what I want to do...Rove's extreme quietness is coming off to me more as petulance at this point. I don't really see froggy as particularly suspect so it's a bit of a confusing front-runner, but I'm just not sure what to do about it.
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Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
Rove's lack of activity at least to his degree is actually starting ti get concerning.
Rove in past games seems like someone who absolutely loves the sound of his own voice, or I guess on here, the sight of his own post.
The possibility exists that he's transitioning into a more low-key style of play, but that is contradicted by the sheer arrogance of calling his shot in round 1.
He also bizarrely has a post just saying "Human Deb" and nothing else since.
Rove has some explaining to do about that post, and his general silence. There is something peculiar about Rove's play.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Rove in past games seems like someone who absolutely loves the sound of his own voice, or I guess on here, the sight of his own post.
The possibility exists that he's transitioning into a more low-key style of play, but that is contradicted by the sheer arrogance of calling his shot in round 1.
He also bizarrely has a post just saying "Human Deb" and nothing else since.
Rove has some explaining to do about that post, and his general silence. There is something peculiar about Rove's play.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
As I said, I think he's veering into petulant territory (which would indicate human), there's just no strategic reason for a wolf to continue doing something so obviously suspect, but who really knows.
If Rove isn't being a frequent contributor, my main reason for not voting him is beginning to wain. I could still do Deb (although it appears pointless now), will float for about 30 mins and formulate a plan
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
If Rove isn't being a frequent contributor, my main reason for not voting him is beginning to wain. I could still do Deb (although it appears pointless now), will float for about 30 mins and formulate a plan
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
"He also bizarrely has a post just saying "Human Deb" and nothing else since."
Oh jeez delete that post celt, could mean what I think it does... ?
Would he be that explicit? I see he's lurking and not saying anything.
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Oh jeez delete that post celt, could mean what I think it does... ?
Would he be that explicit? I see he's lurking and not saying anything.
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Skybet wrote:
That's the thing though. It's on the nose that makes me think Rove is planting the seeds of being a seer but isn't. Rove and Deb don't suspect one another, but are at this point 2 of the 3 most suspicious people in the game.
Rove may also be scrutinizing posts for white text, but if he's a wolf, he has no motive to let us know.
I think one of them should be shot this round.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
"He also bizarrely has a post just saying "Human Deb" and nothing else since."
Oh jeez delete that post celt, could mean what I think it does... ?
Oh jeez delete that post celt, could mean what I think it does... ?
That's the thing though. It's on the nose that makes me think Rove is planting the seeds of being a seer but isn't. Rove and Deb don't suspect one another, but are at this point 2 of the 3 most suspicious people in the game.
Rove may also be scrutinizing posts for white text, but if he's a wolf, he has no motive to let us know.
I think one of them should be shot this round.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I'll hang around and have a think. Still some time to play with. But we have 3 votes here and can make the call.
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I keep expecting Rove to post, but it's just not happening, seems like he wants to set up some big cathartic I told you so. I just don't see the wolf motivation for giving up against accusations.
I'm not confident in any other vote. I don't think Rove's Deb comment is a seer hint, but maybe it's reasonable not to shoot Deb and see what happens with Rove in the night (provided he survives the day).
I have no confidence in Stew being a wolf, but I don't mind shooting him if he's seemingly too busy to play.
I'm open to suggestions
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I'm not confident in any other vote. I don't think Rove's Deb comment is a seer hint, but maybe it's reasonable not to shoot Deb and see what happens with Rove in the night (provided he survives the day).
I have no confidence in Stew being a wolf, but I don't mind shooting him if he's seemingly too busy to play.
I'm open to suggestions
Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can - Sun Tzu
I don't know necessarily if she's outwardly suspicious more than Rove, but I think for probing purposes, Deb is currently a better shot.
Rove is too lone wolf, well lone player, and tends to purely act in his own best interest. The only time I think we can learn anything from Rove is if he's seer. Deb's game is far more normal. If she flips wolf, Rove and Froggy are the next suspects. If she flips human, the Sky/Spider/Col group piques my interest.
Not switching though unless others get on board. Don't want to jeopardize my safety.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
Rove is too lone wolf, well lone player, and tends to purely act in his own best interest. The only time I think we can learn anything from Rove is if he's seer. Deb's game is far more normal. If she flips wolf, Rove and Froggy are the next suspects. If she flips human, the Sky/Spider/Col group piques my interest.
Not switching though unless others get on board. Don't want to jeopardize my safety.
"I need to be myself. I can't be no one else." - Noel Gallagher
I agree with spider in that it's worth waiting one more night on the deb/rove situation - then take a really good look at it next round. If he is the seer (or human) then he'll likely be eaten. He could be left in to get him shot, but that's pretty risky for the wolves.
I still want to shoot oceans I feel like Stewie is a bit of a waste of a shot. But would prefer that to froggy/deb/rove.
Just switched to Stew FTR.
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I still want to shoot oceans I feel like Stewie is a bit of a waste of a shot. But would prefer that to froggy/deb/rove.
Just switched to Stew FTR.
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We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.
I'm going to change my vote to Stewie to give myself a fighting chance and make 2 majorities of 3 votes. At least I have a small chance.
If I end up shot (or eaten) look at those who were so quick to vote for me with absolutely no reason to do so. And, if anyone changes their vote now to me, those wolves really want me out of the game.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
If I end up shot (or eaten) look at those who were so quick to vote for me with absolutely no reason to do so. And, if anyone changes their vote now to me, those wolves really want me out of the game.
SMILE and people will wonder what you are up to!
I'll buy it
Fake The Disco!
Fake The Disco!
I don't have a suspicion about either frog or stew, but I also don't have a good reason to clear either of them.
But I am going to vote Stew. Rather be wrong than passive at this point.
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It's a disease, not a punch line
But I am going to vote Stew. Rather be wrong than passive at this point.
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It's a disease, not a punch line
Changing to Stewie as well.
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